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Don't try this at home

Just one more drink and I'll be gonePhil Rogers got a little tipsy at the Tribune Company's Christmas party on Friday night and penned us this trade scenario on a cocktail napkin.

The Cubs give up Zambrano, shortstop Neifi Perez, center fielder Corey Patterson, left-hander Will Ohman (expendable with Scott Eyre and Glendon Rusch available for the bullpen) and one of two on-the-cusp pitching prospects, either left-hander Rich Hill or right-hander Angel Guzman. They get Tejada and as many as five prospects who could fill needs in the near future--a pitcher (Hayden Penn, John Maine or Adam Loewen), two outfielders (Joe Borchard and one among the Baltimore group of Val Majewski, Jeff Florentino and Nick Markakis), first baseman Casey Rogowski and left-hander Arnie Munoz.

The Sox give up one arm from the Garland/Contreras/Garcia/Vazquez mix and four prospects who aren't being penciled in for big things--Borchard, Rogowski (a really good hitter who doesn't fit on a team that has Konerko and Thome), Munoz and Charles Haeger, a knuckleballer who pitched well in Venezuela after dominating Double A. They get back Bedard, a lefty with great stuff; Ohman, who fills the bullpen need and could allow Neal Cotts to move into the rotation in 2007; and either Hill or Guzman.

The Orioles wind up with the most inventory, as they should. They get Zambrano and Garland, Contreras, Garcia or Vazquez along with Perez, Patterson and Haeger. They give up Tejada, Bedard and a pitching prospect.

I hope he took a cab home.

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i've been smoking tonight,
but that must have been some good shit he was burning.  Seriously though, that actually made me laugh out loud.

by brianekst on Dec 24, 2005 2:59 AM CST reply actions  

wow....
Phillie...don't lose that number.

At least not til I meet ya.

Couggggggghhhhh, couggh, coughhh, cccccccouuuuuuuuughhhh, damn, are Cheech and Chong his sources?

James

by james@lifeinthecell on Dec 24, 2005 4:12 AM CST reply actions  

Phil "Puff" Rogers
Yeah this guy has really lost it.  I am surprised he did not package Konerko, Thome, Pods, and Mark for Bedard, since that would be the only fair trade.

by RME JICO on Dec 24, 2005 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

cotts
i know no-one is taking this seriously, but twice this week (i forget where else) i've read about cotts being prepared for the rotation in 2007. how do people feel about that, considering we don't exactly lack sp depth now?

obviously cotts didn't look good as a sp in the majors before and had that infamous blow-up in the bronx (but it was only his fourth start). and it would seem to me that his lack of variety is best suited to the bullpen, but i'm no scout.

some would argue that we should maximise innings out of an effective pitcher about to enter his prime in 07. opinions?

by goldstone97 @ South Side Sox on Dec 24, 2005 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

He needs another pitch
As one of his most fervent supporters, even I can say that he doesn't quite have the stuff to carry over his success into the rotation. Nothing but fastballs works in a limited setting, but he couldn't succeed as a starter throwing 80+% fastball. Were Neal ever to develop a major league change-up, I'd put him in the rotation immediately.

The better question is, since we have 4 starters locked up through '07, is it a foregone conclusion that the other two (Garland and Contreras) are both gone, thus requiring the Sox to fill the gap with Cotts? -- Second question: Why wouldn't Bedard, or whoever else was brought in, get the nod?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 24, 2005 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Phil Rogers at Christmas dinner:
intently carving baseball shape out of mashed potatoes while family stares at him

I know this sounds crazy, but ever since yesterday on the road, I've been seeing this trade!

Tejada, Neifi, Vazquez... Dammit! I know this. I know what this is! This means something. This is important.

by Sox Machine on Dec 24, 2005 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

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