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Uribe to appear in court January 2nd

I'm tired of this damn case already.

By almost all accounts, Uribe should be in the clear. The District Attorney previously stated that there wasn't enough evidence to continue in the case. The Italian Naval Officer even declined to file charges. I haven't read a thing about the involvement Uribe's brother and bodyguard since being arrested the weekend of the shooting. They seem to be in the clear. The only person being charged is Uribe, the multi-millionaire, and the only people who claim his involvement are the Dominican Farmer and his lawyer, two people clearly after money over justice.

They are currently threatenting to keep Uribe in the Dominican while he's under investigation, even though that investigation was deemed to have turned up nothing 6 weeks ago. The longer this thing drags on, the more I'm convinced that the Dominican Dirt Farmer is only after Uribe's money.

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i just hope
juan isn't eating to deal with the stress.

by larry on Dec 29, 2006 4:40 PM CST reply actions  

I dont
like Juan Uribe. I mean I hope he gets out of this mess... I want him traded or something.

He's really not Ozzie's type of player.

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by LeftyPride on Dec 29, 2006 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

You're right
He's a great defensive SS with a low OBP and good power.

Ozzie would like a good defensive SS with a low OBP and litte power.

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by The Cheat on Dec 29, 2006 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

So this is news?
Welcome to South of the Border justice, whether in S. America or Central America or the Carribean, it's the same - hold the wealthy hostage until someone pays.  Not much different from Iraq, sad to say.

Thank your lucky stars we are in one of the free countries where laws mean something (well, except to larry and Toonder...)

:-)

Bottom line - it keeps our offseason interesting!

by winningugly on Dec 29, 2006 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

laws mean something
they mean whatever i say they mean.

by larry on Dec 29, 2006 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

BA's updated top 10
  1. Ryan Sweeney, of
  2. Josh Fields, 3b
  3. John Danks, lhp
  4. Gio Gonzalez, lhp
  5. Lance Broadway, rhp
  6. Kyle McCulloch, rhp
  7. Charlie Haeger, rhp
  8. Nick Masset, rhp
  9. Aaron Cunningham, of
  10. Adam Russell, rhp
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by The Wizard on Dec 29, 2006 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

I thought scouts loved Danks?
And BA always seems more toolsy than stats driven, yet they rank Danks behind Fields? I read more and more stuff saying that Danks ceiling is a "#3 starter". I know I'm biased, but it seems like being in the Sox organization automatically devalues prospects; when Gio got traded to PHI I read how he was underrated and one of the top pitching prospects in the game. Now he's back and Callis is optimistic but worried about his control and pegs him as a mid-rotation guy.

I really hope one of the Sox prospects finally exceeds expectations in the bigs early in their career...it seems like that hasn't happened in a while.

by hitlesswonder on Dec 29, 2006 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Danks is underrated in most circles
I think he's a better prospect than Pelfrey whos stock is high right now..

by 3E8 on Dec 29, 2006 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

as cheat's post
highlighting that hardball times analysis shows, saying someone is a #x starter doesn't really mean all that much. i'm guessing most people who are saying that don't know what they mean and that means that those of us reading it certainly don't know what they mean. when i see writers actually cite numbers, their estimates seem to fall closer to what i'd call a #2 - just above 4.00, WHIP around 1.3, etc.

by larry on Dec 29, 2006 10:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't like "#x starter" either
It's tremendously vague and just annoys me. As you say, most people have no idea what a league average starter's performance is, let alone averages for each "position" in a rotation. That's why I kept it in quotes.

An ERA just over 4 would be in the top 15 or so in the AL. Doing that in the Cell would be a pretty impressive feat. I'd take that performance from Danks any day.

by hitlesswonder on Dec 29, 2006 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

well
by "just above" i meant around 4.35 or something. as the "consensus" prospect list below shows, averaging this stuff probably isn't that smart. the numbers i've seen for him tend to be in nice, round, unscientific estimates like 4.00 or 4.50. at any rate, i'd call that better than your proverbial #3.

by larry on Dec 29, 2006 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

BA must be going by the raw numbers...
No one can tell me that a 21 year old lefty who throws up to 94 MPH with a hammer curve and a good changeup isn't our top prospect.  He has the potential to make Buehrle look like a turd, quite honestly.

by SSH2005 on Dec 30, 2006 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

94 MPH
In BA-speak, that means that someone saw Danks hit 94 one time on a fast gun. It's usually safe to subtract at least 2 to 3 MPH to get the speed you'll typically see. I think Danks probably throws about as hard as McCarthy.  

by hitlesswonder on Dec 30, 2006 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?
I think we'd  be awfully lucky for Danks to come close to match what Buehrle did in his first seven seasons as a big leaguer.  ~1500 innings of a 120 ERA+?  He'd have to be the next Johan to make Buehrle look like a "turd".

by CWSKeith on Dec 30, 2006 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd go
  1. Danks -- LHP -- 21
  2. Sweeney -- OF -- 21
  3. Gonzalez -- LHP -- 21
  4. Fields -- 3B -- 23
  5. Broadway -- RHP -- 23
  6. Masset -- RHP -- 24
  7. Cunningham -- OF -- 20
  8. Haeger -- RHP -- 22
  9. McCulloch -- RHP -- 22
  10. Egbert -- RHP -- 23
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by The Cheat on Dec 29, 2006 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

actually, flip Gio and Fields
I think Gio will be the better major leaguer, but his season in AA pales in comparison to Fields in Charlotte. I have to be somewhat objective.
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by The Cheat on Dec 29, 2006 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Check this link
http://www.fantasy-baseball.info/2007PP/Consensus.xml

A consensus of several publicated 2007 prospect rankings.  If you look at it, here's how our top 10 would appear:

  1. Josh Fields (21)
  2. John Danks (30)
  3. Ryan Sweeney (55)
  4. Gio Gonzalez (79)
  5. Lance Broadway (103)
  6. Anderson Gomes (126)
  7. Chris Carter (130)
  8. Charlie Haeger (131)
  9. Heath Phillips (155)
  10. Kyle McCulloch (203)
Not many if any at all here would agree with this list.

by 3E8 on Dec 29, 2006 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

gomes?
i mean, i like his raw skills but jeez.

i'm also amazed out how low cunningham is, as well.

by larry on Dec 29, 2006 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

All of the sources...
must have bought into Phil Rogers' hype of Gomes.  I remember Rogers comparing Gomes to Soriano.

by SSH2005 on Dec 30, 2006 7:49 AM CST up reply actions  

And Carter
can't be listed that high. He hasn't had any success in full season ball and his stock is limited by being brutal defensively. The only position he'll ever play is 1B, and more likely he'll be a DH.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 30, 2006 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Callis is a huge Twins fans
And hates the White Sox.  Same bias has to be built into Sickel's stuff.

That's how the same guy can be a "can't miss prospect when he gets traded from the Sox, and then a "mediocre major leaguer at best" prospect when he gets traded back.

by BridgeportJoe on Jan 1, 2007 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Aubrey Huff close to 3-year deal with Orioles...
Huff, Orioles close to three-year deal
The Orioles, thwarted in earlier attempts to add a top slugger, are close to signing free agent Aubrey Huff to a three-year contract worth at least $18 million, FOXSports.com has learned.

Aubrey Huff is nothing special but that's a pretty good deal for him.

by SSH2005 on Dec 30, 2006 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

Randy Johnson TRADED to the Diamondbacks...
according to WFAN radio in New York.  Yankees get two prospects.  No word yet on who the prospects are.

by SSH2005 on Dec 30, 2006 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

OT: My dream
I had a dream that the Sox signed Chan Ho Park and Preston Wilson.  I was pleased.

And then I woke up.  And checked SSS.  And didn't see anything up here.

Boo...

by CWSKeith on Dec 31, 2006 2:07 PM CST reply actions  

Now if this happens...
you need to post the lottery numbers.

Happy New Year!

by RME JICO on Dec 31, 2006 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

dream
If you are going to dream, can't you think of better players for Chicago to acquire?  Are you often disappointed with the women in your dreams?
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by shaftr on Dec 31, 2006 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed on Preston Wilson...
even though he is just an average player, he makes good sense for us because he hits lefties very well.  He would make a great platoon LF'er and sometimes CF'er against lefties.  He would also probably be pretty cheap.

by SSH2005 on Jan 1, 2007 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

uribe
[Dave van Dyck]
Those familiar with the case believe this is basically an appeal from attorneys for Antonio Gonzalez Perez, who reportedly was arguing with Uribe before the farmer was shot. They have asked that Uribe be barred from leaving the country during the probe. District Atty. Robert Lugo had said previously prosecutors had seen no proof that Uribe was involved with the shooting. Until all the appeals are heard and denied, the case cannot be closed.
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by The Wizard on Dec 31, 2006 4:42 PM CST reply actions  

and the legend called man soo lee continues
[Jerry Sullivan]
Last August, I took my son, Jack, to his first major league game in Toronto. I can't recall much about the actual game. But I'll never forget the look on Jack's face when the White Sox bullpen catcher, a Korean legend named Man Soo Lee, summoned Jack down from the 18th row and handed him a signed baseball.
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JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Dec 31, 2006 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

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