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What I've learned in the first two weeks of the season

  • JI
    JIM THOME is healthy. Really healthy.
  • Or maybe the ball is juiced. When Pablo Ozuna goes deep, only then am I on that bandwagon.
  • Freddy Garcia is frustrating.
  • The Tigers are a better team than I originally thought -- And I say this after watching the Sox sweep them in their opening series at home -- They're going to be around all year. With the quality of the teams in this division, I don't see the Wild Card coming out of the Central.
  • The same goes for the Blue Jays. Obviously pitching health is already a concern with Burnett and Halladay missing starts, but if they're healthy, I think they'll steal enough wins from the Yanks and Sawks to make the East a 1-bid division. The Angels and A's are already making their post-season plans.
  • Ozzie got the message... I think. -- In the last 9 games, Boone Logan has faced one batter.
  • The White Sox have the best offense in the division. Ok, that may not be true, but they have scored more runs than any team in the Central through 12 games. The pitching, however, has been inconsistent and more than occasionally disappointing. I know the offense will stagnate at some point, so I just hope the pitching is on for those games.
What have you guys learned so far?

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a)  Brian Anderson is fine on the field, he just needs to catch up at the plate.

b)  Buerhle & Contreras are our #1 and 2.

c)  Garland and Vazquez continue their career trend of frustration.

d)  After 2 weeks, only one game lost because of the Thorngan experiment.

e)  Thome and Konerko can be really good, close to the Manny/Ortiz combo.

f)  Cotts & Politte are concerns.

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by shaftr on Apr 17, 2006 1:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Counterthoughts
(a) Not sure he is that great so far in the field - he's had a couple of bad breaks on balls, but does look good on a lot of balls.  His bat is really looking bad.  I'm hoping that he looks good tonight after a break.

(b)  I think we all knew this going into the season.

(c)  Yup, I hadn't thought of this before - they are guys who, throughout their careers, have had much better stuff than results.  Do you think that Don Cooper can only take on so many projects at a time?  He's got Garland, Contreras (needs reinforcement), Vazquez, Thornton, and Jenks.  He's only one man.

(d)  One game every two weeks means 13 games over the course of the season.  That would be a total and utter disaster.

(e) Yes, without Peter Gammons writing epic poetry about them.  They look awesome.  Add in the fact that Jermaine Dye now looks like he's mastered the strike zone (bunch of walks already), and 3-4-5 is a regular wrecking crew.

(f) They were flat out lucky last year.  Regression to the mean is going to hurt the bullpen a lot.

The biggest concern from my vantage point is the bullpen.  The second biggest concern is the bullpen.

by BlackBetsy on Apr 17, 2006 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

- Keeping Ross Gload was a waste of a roster spot.
It's fairly obvious he's not going to play.  When you're below Ozuna in the outfield depth chart, you should probably hope for greener pastures.  I wish the best for Gload and even though I would hate to see him go, it would've been nice for him to be traded to a team where he could get more consistent playing time and net us a backup outfielder we could use right now.
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by 3E8 on Apr 17, 2006 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

no, he's not
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=cws

but he has played a lot of outfield before, most notably for us in 2004; probably about half his games came in the corner positions that year.

by larry on Apr 17, 2006 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha
Gload is in no way, shape, or form, close to being a centerfielder.  I guess you could argue the same for leftfield, but he's no worse than Ozuna.
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by 3E8 on Apr 17, 2006 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gload is Paulie's backup
I'm glad he's not playing much. But he's necessary unless you want to use Dye at first.
Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Apr 18, 2006 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alot of what we said in spring was right....
-The pen is the Sox biggest weak spot, and will need to be addressed in the near future.

-The O can go up with ANYONE in either league. Thome has really changed the whole dynamic of the team.

-Its nice so far not to miss a beat when players are out. Cintron has done a great job with Juan out, Mack will come around.

-We might not get as lucky as we did last season with Garland. Its early, and i am still a big Garland fan, but 05 might have been a banner year for him.

-It doesnt matter what our record was at this point last year, nor does it matter at all. The AL is completely different this season, and IMO while its much better, wins are going to down from last year.

by Tony82087 on Apr 17, 2006 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Since you asked...
  1. Don't blink, or you might miss a Buehrle win.
  2. Jenks SEEMS to be rounding (no pun intended) into form.  His curve looked nasty on Saturday.
  3. Could Garcia's early lack of speed be due to the WBC?  Haven't we seen pitchers who, near the end of Spring Training, get the "dead arm"?  Since his ST was mostly in the WBC, could it be hitting him now?  If so, I'm not that worried about his health or skills... just his head.  And I suspect Ozzie won't allow too much nonsense, nephew-in-law or not.
Other than that, it's way too early in a long season to draw any conclusions.  All I'd add is that I disagree with most of you about the season coming down to the last week (this means YOU Cheat!).  I'm guessing that even with the question marks the Sox have, they'll win the division by 7 (or more) games.  I expect a regression to norm in the 1-run games too, but I suspect that this offense has the potential to cut the number of them in half.

Finally, as much as I loved my vacation in Mexico last week, I really really really missed watching the Sox.  I saw results, but had no details or box scores.  And of course, the 1st thing I did upon return was read every post here.

It should be called Bill Veeck Park!

by Chiburb on Apr 17, 2006 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

From the east coast.
Being in Philly I've noticed:

-The Sox are somehow flying under the radar, a year after winning the Series. My Sox news is limited to websites like this and the national sources. On SportsCenter yesterday they started off the highlights with a bunch of games. The Sox didn't show up until after a piece on Jeffrey Maier. Thome hits his 7th homer, one less than the league leaders and there's almost no mention of it.

-Phillies fans really don't appreciate it when I thank them daily for the Thome trade.

-Red Sox, Yankees, Red Sox, Yankees. Schilling/Beckett greatest pitchers alive. Red Sox. Yankees. Schilling/Beckett. Ortiz. Red Sox.

I really need to move west.

by twoeightnine on Apr 17, 2006 9:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Podsednik needs to lose his
"steal every time I'm on base" mentality ASAP.  Especially when Thome, Konerko, and even Gooch are hitting like they are.  We don't need to risk losing a baserunner to generate a sac fly, when these guys are knocking the ball out of the park at this rate.

Just get on base, steal when it's apparent the pitcher/catcher can't match your speed, and otherwise wait until the guys behind you drive you in.  

by chrome on Apr 17, 2006 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I think, I think...
Dye, Crede, A.J., Gooch, and Juan are great.  Nobody outside of Sox fans know this, but they are the reason the White Sox can repeat.

I can't remember the last time the Sox have had so many .300 hitters two weeks into the season.

Although Garcia, Garland, and Vazquez have been shaky, I get butterflies thinking about how on any given day an opposing team can be shut out.

PLEASE, let's be patient with Anderson, he will come around!

The bullpen is the weakest link on the Whitesox, but it still is not bad.  Relative to everything else it sticks out like a sore thumb.

When I become a father and grandfather, and talk to my children and grandchildren about this era of the White Sox, most stories will be about Mark Buehrle.  We need to appreciate this guy, players like this rarely come around anymore.

by DeeDubs24 on Apr 17, 2006 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I think...
I'll wait until the end of June to try and make any conclusions--mostly to save myself any crow eating.

I've emjoyed reading everyone elses though.

by madvillian on Apr 17, 2006 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

My thoughts
- I'm still not confident in Podsednik, even after his two hit game; though it was nice to see him get on base twice in the same game.  Towers isn't/wasn't a good barometer, though; he was awful yesterday, leaving everything up when he did find the zone.  It was almost painful to watch him pitch yesterday.

-Thome is teh r0xerz.

-For folks thinking that Javy Vazquez is going to be a Cy Young candidate...  keep dreaming.  He's going to give up 30-35 homers (most likely) this year, and really, that's too much to keep his ERA low.  That doesn't mean I'm expecting bad things from him -- just, I doubt he's going to finish with the 3.20 ERA people are hoping for.  I'll say he and Garland will finish from 4.00-4.15 at season's end.

by CWSKeith on Apr 17, 2006 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

What I have learned thus far...
  1. If Thome and Paulie stay healthy, we are in for some real treats this year and the Sox will need to buy additional fireworks to keep up.
  2. Jermaine Dye is also a phenomenal player, quietly having a great start (defensively too) and will be huge all year.
  3. Tad Iguchi was a find and a steal.
  4. We can't rely on the 2, 3, 4 and 5 hitters to stay hot all year...so the top and bottom better get it in gear.
  5. The bullpen needs a shake up sooner rather than later.

by tailgater on Apr 17, 2006 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

called on Dye for a breakout
or a final realization of his talent this year back in November.

by dyspeptic on Apr 18, 2006 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

well ...
I haven't learned a damned thing.  It's a long frickin' season, and I'll give anyone even odds that neither Thome nor Shelton nor Casey Blake will be making the MVP Top Five.

by Jay on Apr 17, 2006 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Hafner
All your money is on Pronk, Jay?

by Tybor on Apr 17, 2006 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

This got me searching the MVP rankings from 2005
Podsednik...............12th in voting.  My eyes nearly fell out of my head.  I never remember reading that.
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by 3E8 on Apr 18, 2006 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, nice bet
I'll bet that Toronto isn't top 5 warmest North American cities in 2006--even odds!

by madvillian on Apr 17, 2006 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

so far only one
Barry Bonds is old and it shows.
Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Apr 18, 2006 6:37 PM CDT reply actions  

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