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Pablo Ozuna has powers comparable to Wonderboy

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(Nuccio DiNuzzo Chicago Tribune)
There comes a time when you have to just accept that Freddy Garcia is never going to return to be the pitcher who can throw in the low-to-mid 90's and throw seemingly 9 different breaking pitches. I sort of accepted that sometime tonight around the 5th or 6th inning. He may not have looked pretty out there, but he was getting the job done.

That being said, as soon as Joe Crede homered to put the Sox up 3 it was time to turn to the front end of our bullpen. If Freddy isn't going to dominate, you have to treat him with kid gloves and assume that every out is a gift from above. He's not going to be the guy who buckled down every time he put men on base. He simply doesn't have the stuff (or maybe the stones) to do that anymore. He's not to be trusted late in close games.

Garcia's pitch count only reached 79 tonight, but I always felt like he was about to implode. That happens when you're not able to miss many bats. It's not I have much confidence in the bullpen either.

  • Obviously, I wouldn't have chosen Matt Thornton to relieve Garcia, but the point stands. Ozzie needs to start developing some roles for his bullpen. With the exception of Jenks, who he has bizarrely used in a couple of less-than-three-out save opportunities, nobody has a defined role. Part of the success of last year's bullpen was how quickly everyone settled into their given role.

    Pollite and Marte set-up for Hermanson, until Marte started to suck and Hermanson's back gave out. By that time Cotts and Jenks were more than ready to step into high-leverage roles, and were the go-to arms (with the exception of El Duque) in the post-season.

    Guys have to produce for Ozzie to stick with a 'defined roles' bullpen, but I believe that at least a small part of last year's success was due to everyone in that bullpen knowing what their job was.

  • It was disappointing to see our hitters completely unable to get anything started off of The Great Gil Meche. Joe Crede and a first pitch fastball from Rafael Soriano changed all that. My man crush growing each and every day. It's getting to the point where I'm thinking about customizing a jersey.
  • It's so rare that I have the opportunity to say this, but Hawk and DJ provided some insightful commentary tonight. They both remarked, as they have in the past when we've played the Mariners, that their outfielders were playing too deep. Tonight, however, was the first time I've seen it come back to bite the M's.

    Pablo Ozuna smacked a groundball just out of reach of the SS and 2B, and was able to turn that grounder into a double because Jeremy Reed was playing so deep and half-assed it on the way in. One play later, the M's were back at what I would call 'no doubles' depth, and Juan Uribe blooped one into short right center -- again in front of Reed -- scoring Ozuna from second to win the game for the Sox. Ozuna got into scoring position, and scored, based almost solely on the outfield depth.

    To balance out his useful commentary, Hawk yelled STRETCH! about once per flyball hit by the Sox. Ross Gload's opposite field warning track flyout got 3 of 'em. Pierzynski's 11th inning flyout got at least that many. Surprisingly, the Sox actual HR's needed only 2 STRETCHes total.

  • The play of the night -- maybe the most surprising play of the year -- had to be Pablo Ozuna's 9th inning HR. Somewhere on the internets I joked, mocking someone who acted like a return trip to the World Series was guaranteed to the White Sox, that I couldn't wait until Ozuna hit his first ever HR to win a game of the 2006 World Series. I never actually believed that Ozuna would ever hit a HR. Let alone a 2-out, 9th inning, game saving, homerun. One that he hit so far he stared the thing down as it left the bat. Unbelievable. I'm actually a little disappointed the AP doesn't have a picture of Ozuna posing anywhere on the internet. I think even caught the photographers by surprise. They were probably all changing their film.

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Reed's effort
The more I watch highlights of the game, the more I'm confused and befuddled by Jeremy Reed's effort on the Uribe single to end the game.
He wasn't all that far from it, and if he's going full steam ahead he's got momentum behind him.
What's confusing is that Reed didn't give it any dive or any extra effort considering the game situation: bottom of the 11th, two outs, winning run on second. It's a make or break situation; he didn't have to worry about keeping Uribe from getting to second. If he catches the ball, inning over, crises averted. If he misses on the dive, at least he's giving maximum effort. Like BA's effort a few innings earlier, it makes or breaks the game.
I hate to be redundant, but Reed gave it no effort at all, and I think if he had, he could have caught that pop up. I think BA easily makes that play.
I'm happy with the Sox win, but Reed's lack of effort is disturbing. KW looks more like a genius more and more everyday.

On a side note, if anyone gets a chance, checkout the game thread at the Mariners SB Nation site, Look Out Landing. When Guardado gives up the Pablo's HR, it's pure comedy. Our "love" for Pods has nothing on their "love" for Everyday Eddie. Good stuff.  

Free Ross Gload!

by james@lifeinthecell on May 4, 2006 12:50 AM CDT reply actions  

lol. On SportsCenter
They said that Reed was playing behind the CF fence on both plays, he had to hop it and charge in to make those plays somewhat closer. lol.
Ross...Gload...sucks

by SouthSideStunna on May 4, 2006 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the game...
...I had a softball doubleheader to lose during that time...

I heard on the radio that Anderson made some pretty awesome defensive plays that may have been as big as any of the home runs.

Is that true?

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by Brent Brookhouse on May 4, 2006 4:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I think ha was OK
from what I saw he was OK

there was one throw he made to 3rd base I think
not JD, but not pods either

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by The Wizard on May 4, 2006 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he didn't look noticeably uncomfortable
as Ozuna does even on balls he fields correctly?

That'd be a nice boost to our bench if Ozzie can use Gload as a serviceable backup outfielder.

by chrome on May 4, 2006 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

another possibility
Gload impresses until Dye comes back...it makes him more valuable in a trade.
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by shaftr on May 4, 2006 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anderson
pretty much a full horizontal layout to grab one.

Hoping he developes, like Crede certainly has over time,  at the plate and we'll have a solid cf for a long time.  Patience.

Hope to see BA in the lineup today- he'll get a good hand from the crowd and hopefully get a hit or 2.

Cheat - nice wrap to the game.  Yeah,  I don't think Ozzie himself knows where or how to use this pen just yet -  'cept Jenks.  Also, I don't know if Hawk tracks those long hits live or on the tube - but if you were watching WCIU, the camera work made a few of those flyouts look like they were going to be taters

by DickdaStick on May 4, 2006 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

WPA?
Does anybody have a WPA chart for this game?  I didn't see anything before (by chance) the tenth inning....  but it sounded crazy and i can't imagine what that graph would look like...

by generico12 on May 4, 2006 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Fascinating Game
That was the most interesting game of the year so far.  As evidenced by the long game-thread and Cheat's extensive notes, there was alot to talk about.
  • Garcia: No, he's not an ace pitcher, but you'd still take him over most ML starters.  His control is getting better and I thought he did a better job of working in the strike zone tonight.  Will that lead to more hits against better teams?  Sure, but everyone gives up more hits against good lineups.  I think the only thing that's fundamentally different this year for Freddy is that his velocity is down which gives him less margin for error.  I don't know if that's because of fatigue (WBC?), injury, dope, mental issues or whatever else but pitchers' velocity can fluctuate from year-to-year and even within a season.  If bad Freddy can still ring up quality starts 2/3 of the time, I'm more than willing to let it ride and see if he and Coop can find a few more mph as the season progresses.  After all, Game 4 in Houston just wasn't that long ago.
  • Podsednik: No one, and I mean no one, hates the CS more than I do.  If I was manager, I'd probably run a team like Billy Beane's A's, with almost no stealing unless the opposing battery was truly awful at holding runners.  That being said, Pods is catching too much grief here.  His defense is quite good, raggy left-fielder arm notwihtstanding.  He's not Tim Raines or anything, but he is a solid leadoff hitter who mostly does his job of working the pitcher and getting on base.  After a terrible start, his bat is coming around nicely (in the last week, he's hitting .381/.458/.381).  Yes, he's over-rated by the media.  Yes, he's not really an all-star.  Yes, his CS hurt.  Yes, speed-based players can lose it in a hurry.  But he's still a useful player and, if he can find just another step or two on the bases, he'll be a serious asset again.  Plus, his wife is smoking hot.
  • Anderson:  This may well be wishful thinking, but I think maybe I see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.  First, Anderson's defense has been much better than I expected.  He really does get excellent jumps on the ball and I can't think of any missed plays yet where I thought "Rowand would have made that catch."  I don't want to indulge in armchair psychoanalysis, but it looks to me like he is not taking his struggles to the plate into the field and that he is maintaining his self-respect through excellent glove-work.  Plus, he doesn't seem quite so clueless at the plate lately.  Working that walk to lead off the 10th was a good thing.  So, maybe we should spot Mackowiak against tough-right handers, but I'm willing to keep running Brian out there and hope for offensive improvement.
  • Gload:  That was a big day for Gload.  I think his biggest obstacle (aside from that unfortunate incident with Ozzie's dog) is that he's been pigeon-holed as a back-up first baseman who can't play the outfield.  Since Konerko and Thome are going to play nearly every day, that doesn't leave much time for Gload.  However, if he can persuade Ozzie that he can hold-down an outfield spot, there's alot more opportunity.  Yesterday, he looked fine in right.  His arm isn't strong, but its good enough and his range is ok as well.  I'd certainly take him over Ozuna in the outfield.  Also, Gload swung the bat well.  He hit that ball to the fence in left, just missing a home run and he whistled a base hit past Lopez in the seventh, following it up with a heady stolen base.  It was a very credible performance and I hope it gives Ozzie the confidence to use Gload more.
  • Crede:  Wow, does he look good.  Yes, he's driving up his price and, with Boras as his agent, he won't come cheap, but that is a bill I'll be happy to pay.  The crowd has really gotten behind him too.  Things sure were different twelve months ago.
  • Politte: Again, I think you all are being a little too hard on the guy.  Yes, he has come down to earth after last year's brilliance.  We all expected that.  But he's been looking better since that terrible outing against Toronto on 4/14.  He was effective against LA and Cleveland.  Last night was mostly bad luck.  He was brought in to a miserable, bases loaded, one out situation with a two run lead.  He jumped ahead of Lopez, but then threw what looked to me like a fastball that the batter swung late on to roll a ground ball the opposite way past Iguchi for a two run single.  Tie game.  Sure, strikeouts are better, but that kind of hit can happen on any ball in play and it could so easily have been a double-play if Lopez was just a little quicker.  Also, its hardly Cliff's fault that Lopez was able to take second on the throw in from the outfield.  That led to the intentional walk, runners on first and second.  Then Politte made a good pitch to Sexson and gets what should be an inning ending double-play but Iguchi lets Ibanez mess-up the throw so instead an unearned run crosses the plate which leads to another intentional walk.  Politte then got Beltre on another ground ball.  Sure, it would be nice to have Scott Shields in the pen, but Politte is still an effective reliever and he'll get big outs for us if he doesn't lose his confidence.
  • Announcing:  People are correct to give credit to Harrelson for his call on the Seattle outfielders.  The most important job a TV announcer has, in my view, is to tell me the things I can't see on the screen.  Harrelson told us an important piece of information about the game that we couldn't see and then had the good fortune of having his information lead directly to the game-ending plays.  Credit where credit is due.
  • General Vibe:  I know that we are White Sox fans, which means that, even with the big flag flying in left-center, we are still a flinty, bitter bunch.  I agree that there are imperfections on this club, just as there are on every team I've ever seen.  But guys, the Sox have the best record in the baseball, and deservedly so.  You can make a pretty good argument that this team is better than the 2005 squad.  Does that mean we are guaranteed to win the Series again, or even make the play-offs?  Of course not.  But this is a good, appealing team, playing good baseball.  I'm not saying we should give them a pass on mistakes, but don't deprive yourself of enjoying what we've got here.  This is supposed to be fun.

by Landfill on May 4, 2006 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Couldn't have said it better myself
Great comments, Landfill.  I agree that this is a likeable and exciting team to watch, and focusing so much on the negatives just doesn't make sense.  I acknowledge the flaws and certainly am frustrated when they cost us outs or runs or whole ballgames, but I see no point in ragging a guy unmercifully just so that, when he does screw up, you can say "I told you so."  I mean, is that ever really a good feeling?  "Sweet, I'm happy that I was right when I predicted my favorite team would blow it!"  I mean, if that's your bag you might as well be a Cub fan!  I prefer to hope for the best and support guys even when they're struggling.  At the very least I'll reserve my ire until after they make a bad play.

by Ryno on May 4, 2006 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gload
He looked fine in the outfield. His arm may be week, but he seems pretty smart out there. He made a good decision throwing to third instead of trying in vain to peg the runner at home. The game before, Mackowiak made that mistake. He threw home and the runner advanced to second and scored because of that.

I think Ozzie should match up Gload and Anderson together in the outfield. That way, any deficiencies Gload has in the outfield are made up by Adnerson's amazing range.

-Jeeves Chi-Sox Blog

by jeeves on May 4, 2006 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

new to the board
Hey, I'm new here, but, I wanted to make a few comments that may or may not have been talked about already here.

First of all, I live in Birmingham, AL, home of the Barons, who are the Sox AA farm club. I've been going to Barons games since I was a little kid and have seen many players play here before they were called up and played for the Sox. Living in Birmingham, this is college football country, so, I only know a couple of people around here who really follow baseball and only one of those happens to be a Sox fan. He really isn't into it that much to where we can talk baseball, though. I made my first trip to Chicago a couple of weeks ago to see my first game at US Cellular Field and had a great time at the game and in the city. I hope to return sometime in the not too distant future. Lastly, I am a Sox fan because Bo Jackson was my hero growing up (I'm an Auburn guy) and the Sox were the last team he played for. Plus, we get WGN in Birmingham, so I've been watching the Sox and Cubs on tv for years, and I decided to become a Sox fan after Bo joined the team.

Okay, enough of that. First, of the posts I've read, I'm glad that someone else is concerned about the amount of times that Podsednik is being either picked off 1st or thrown out at 2nd. I think if he's healthy, he will still wind up coming close to last year's stolen base total, but, it's obvious to me that something isn't right there. He isn't being barely thrown out, either. He's been thrown out by a mile on several occasions, and by catchers with below average arms and pitchers who are less than effective at holding runners on.

The other thing I've noticed on a couple of different occasions is Paul Konerko's foot getting glued to 1st base. This happened in last night's game during the top of the 9th on the attempted double play ball. I remember this happening earlier in the year on a throw by Uribe, but, I can't remember which game. It looks like to me that Paulie could have saved that ball from sailing if he had taken his foot off the bag instead of trying to stretch for it and make the out. Is the camera angle making me see things that I'm not really seeing? And has anyone else noticed this before?

Lastly, since I'm in Birmingham, I have to pay my local cable company $160 per year to catch all the Sox games that don't come on WGN or ESPN, so a lot of times I get stuck with the home team's announcing duo. Last night was an exception. For some reason, I got the Fox Sports Northwest version of the game which "featured" the Mariners commentators. Those guys were awful. I know I'm probably the only one who here who had to endure listening to those guys for the duration of the game, but, they were horrible. I hate it for you if you get stuck with them at any time in your life.

I'm not always so long winded, but any thoughts and comments would be appreciated. I'll be keeping up on a daily basis from here on out so I won't have to ask questions about subjects that have probably been discussed already.

by cmccarty on May 4, 2006 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

welcome
I have MLB Extra Innings and the Mariners announcers are really  boring.  They just seem to be disinterested most of the time so the broadcasts creep by.  I did not watch the game last night, so I didn't hear them yesterday.

I recall someone on here mentioning the Konerko/Uribe play, but like I said, I didn't see yesterday's game so I cannot comment.

I hope Podsednik's problem is an issue of timing and not speed.  Honestly, I fear the latter.

Finally, how is Getz looking in AA?  I've been following him closely, although I've never seen him play.

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by shaftr on May 4, 2006 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks...
I haven't been to a Barons game yet this year. I'll be sure to post comments as soon as I'm able to attend.

by cmccarty on May 4, 2006 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the board, cmccarty
Can I ask a favor of you?

If you do get to any Birmingham games, can you post reports?  Specifically on guys like Schnurstien (3B), and the the middle infielders (Getz and Valido).

Oh, and that studly Big 3 you got down there with Liotta, Broadway, and Lumsden has to be pretty nice, huh?

Again, welcome to SSS -- good to see the Sox' popularity extending across the country.

by CWSKeith on May 4, 2006 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barons game
Well, since you asked, I can definitely post a report. I'll post a message on here a day or so before I go to the game so you can let me know who I need to keep an eye out for. Again, Birmingham is such a football oriented town, people don't talk about the Barons, so, I don't know what their record is or anything. The only thing I know about the Barons is from the Down on the Farm reports that I get from whitesox.com. People usually go there for company functions, dollar beer night, things like that. More for something to do than to go watch the Barons. But, I will be sure to keep an eye on a few guys and post a report if y'all are interested.

by cmccarty on May 5, 2006 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed
Konerko could have and should have given up the chance for the DP by getting off the bag and getting after the ball.  In his defense, in the replay it appeared that the throw tailed a little bit, so he may have just been fooled by it.

by the wolf on May 4, 2006 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome
Welcome to SSS. I'm relatively new here as well, but in my short time here I've come to realize site is a great place to chat about baseball, especially during the games.

My advice is to chat on the game thread during the game, it's nice to be able to bounce ideas off of other people.

-Jeeves Chi-Sox Blog

by jeeves on May 4, 2006 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great comments
I enjoyed the read of both the main post and landfill's comments.

I might add that Crede looks great, but I think it'd be wise to let him walk, use the draft picks to rebuild the farm, and put Fields, who is kicking ass and taking names into the line-up next year.

by xian on May 4, 2006 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I disagree 200%
I'd not let clutch go anywhere...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME

by The Wizard on May 4, 2006 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there anything better...
Than reading through the gamethreads on USSMARINER on "happy Felix day" this year?  For that matter, it's also big fun when they predict that Buehrle and Contreras are "due for a regression" because their metrics don't match the performance--you don't say!  Darn! And I was looking forward to those sub-2 ERAS all season!

Back to Felix:

Although I love sabermetrics, I get a good kick out of Dave and DMZ trying to explain every flaw with Felix away with advanced pitching metrics that say he'll be fine--e.g. K/BB, K/9, G/F etc.  

I'm sure he's not as bad as he's shown, but his propensity for wildness and 92 MPH fastballs down the pipe are not what you'd expect from the hype surrounding him so far.

by madvillian on May 4, 2006 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Disagree 100%
Fields isn't even in the same stadium when talking about his defense compared to Crede's.  That's a huge, HUGE downgrade, one the Sox can't afford to have.  Heck, I've even seen talk about moving Fields to LF/1B.  

Oh, and let's see Fields hit well over a full season before we even come close to giving him a starting spot.  And, if he wants a starting spot for next year (not at 3B, btw), he better RAKE at Charlotte -- that park is tiny, so his numbers are going to have to be that much better.  

Finally, Crede isn't a FA after this year.  If it comes down to Crede wanting a big paycheck (I sincerely believe this is not the case, regardless of Boras being his agent), the Sox can play out the string and take the draft picks for the 2008 draft.

But I doubt it comes to that.  I'm expecting a contract extension by the end of the year -- would 3 years, $21 million be a fair offer?  

by CWSKeith on May 4, 2006 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Depends Keith
If Crede continues to impress, like say a 280/340/530 line at the end of the season, I'll think his price will go up considerably as a premier defender and above average hitter at 3b.

He's entering his prime age-wise as well.  I just hope the Sox lock him up before he's a FA.

by madvillian on May 4, 2006 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

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