Garland does it all and gets bragging rights
The Sox went into today's game having won the first two of the set. With Jon Garland on the bump expectations were low. Still 2 out of 3 would have made me happy.
But a funny thing happened on the way to the park - Garland brought his A+ game. His line was 8 IP 4 hits 1 run 1 BB 4 ks. Add a hit, a fielder's choice, 2 runs scored and 2 RBI. It was a nice hit too. Jon deposited an Esteban (our old friend) Yan pitch into the left field stands! Garland looked like the same pitcher he always did. The difference was avoiding the dinger(s).
Meanwhile the Sox offence produced 8 runs on 14 hits with Jim Thome playing first base and Paul Konerko getting Father's Day off. Rob Mackowiak went 4 for 4. Jermaine Dye had 2 hits including a 3 run shot - #20.
Meanwhile the worst team in the NL is getting pounded again. I guess you can't have everthing.
Next up for the Sox are the Red Birds .
Have a happy Father's Day. I know I will.
Update [2006-6-18 18:5:45 by thewizardsofoz]: Garland's 2-run homer was his first career homer and the first homer by a Sox pitcher in 35 years (Steve Kealey hit that on September 6, 1971, against Minnesota, before the AL adopted the DH rule)!
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expectations were low?
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
comon
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have low expectations
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Politte's return on pause
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by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2006 6:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I'm eagerly awaiting cliff's return
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by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2006 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw an Ozzie interview
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was talk
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that make sense
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
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by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2006 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
found it
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by The Wizard on Jun 19, 2006 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it can only be montero
the article says cliff is out of options but may be send down
how come cliff can be send down while he's out of options but thornton can't
I'm not suggesting sending thornton down
just curious...
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by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2006 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what you mean
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should clarify
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
remember when we got thornton?
that confused me!
are there time limits in rehab assignments?
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by The Wizard on Jun 18, 2006 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
yeah, there are limits on rehab assignments but they're pretty meaningless in practice. basically, as long as the player and team agree to send the guy on a rehab assignment they could do it many times a season. now, they can't really get around it by sending him on some 90 day rehab assignment but a guy could be sent on multiple rehab assignments during a given season and it would likely be okay.
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here
A player who is still on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man roster or the disabled list is on an optional assignment to the minor leagues. One of the more complicated matters in baseball, options can be simply explained. A player has three years after he is added to the 40-man roster in which he can be sent to the minors without being removed from the roster, these are option years. An option is used every year such a player is sent down unless the player remains in the minors for less than 10 days in each stint. A player "out-of-options" has exhausted his option years. There are many exceptions to this rule however. If a player has not been on the major-league roster during the season during his career, then he can have a fourth option year. Players with at least five years of major-league experience who haven't been optioned to the minors three times may be optioned to the minors and still remain on the 40-man roster, but must give their permission. A player with three full years of major league service time must pass through waivers in order to be optioned down. Injured players cannot be optioned down.
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers eagerly awaited Prior's return...
by southsidefan on Jun 18, 2006 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the Cubs are terrible
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now now....
besides, before the cell had ~30k fans a game, it was a fantastic place to get a smoke in and watch some baseball.
by the way, anybody know what the beer goes for over there? just hoping they're getting ripped off more than we are. shirtless dumbasses handing their money away to the beer company that owns their biggest rivals. the irony, it burns....
by thatshortkid on Jun 18, 2006 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
by larry on Jun 18, 2006 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hah
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Swell Swell Feeling
I'm most encouraged by the bottom of the order finally pulling its weight. Of course I knew Uribe wouldn't bat under .200 all season, and that BA couldn't possibly either, but it's one thing to expect good things, another to actually start seeing them. Uribe is hitting for power again, and when he's right at the plate, that's one thing he brings from the SS position that is rather unique. I just hope he can continue this hot streak for more than a week or two.
I also have to eat major crow on Matt Thornton and the trade for him. Out of nowhere, he's become a reliable reliever, heck, he's even at times been a dominant reliever. The bullpen is looking much spiffier these days with him, BMAC, and Cotts all good options before Jenks. Montero and Riske can be used as mopup guys and gain confidence for the stretch run and/or playoffs.
I predicted 93 wins from this team before the season, but I might have to up my prediction. They've had amazing production from Dye, Kong, and Thome, no major injuries, and the front of the staff is really dominating while Garcia, Vasquez, and Garland are holding their own. With the now solid bullpen, I don't think 98 victories is out of the question, and anything less than 95 probably will be a disapointment is their health holds up.
And their run differential is now 2nd only to the Tigers. They've recently passed both the Mets and Yankees in Pythag expected wins.
This team isn't getting by on "lucky" one run games this season, they're blowing people out. I like it.
by madvillian on Jun 18, 2006 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Riske is going to be a mop up guy?
by Toonderstrook on Jun 19, 2006 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
luck, shmuck
But yes, the "all cylanders" Sox that humiliate other teams is a little more comforting.
Ozzie has gotten some criticism for his constantly changing lineups but it should only help our regulars during the dog days (last year we had some struggles around then) and into September. Moreover, I'd love to see how our bench numbers stack up against other teams'. We know who the starters are, that's not the issue. But everyone has been a hero multiple times now, and that should only help us in future late-inning situations, particularly in the playoffs.
I don't care if we get 91 or 101 wins, I just want us to win the division and 3 postseason series.
by jakester on Jun 18, 2006 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm inclined to sorta agree
Still, I'll try and argue one point.
"Clutch", i.e. the ability to hit with say--RISP, or in close ballgames or late in the game--has neven been proven a repeatable stat. That is, nobody is "clutch"--they are just lucky.
I do have a hard time accepting this, and it seems that I'm naturally inclined to want to believe certain players are "clutch". I want Jose Contreras to buckle down in big games; I want Joe Crede to hit walk off home runs. When I see them do those things, I know have empirical evidence that they are fulfilling the definition of "clutch".
Thing is though, those players might just be good on average--so of course they're more likely to come through in the "clutch" than other guys. It's just I forget the times they don't because they aren't as memorable.
That's my Sunday evening 11 PM explanation anyways.
by madvillian on Jun 18, 2006 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clutchiness
There is a great illustration of that from Captain Clutch himself, Derek Jeter. Jeter is probably the most celebrated post-season player of his generation and is universally praised for his awesome clutchy performances. His post-season averages, in 462 abs over 115 games, are an excellent .307/.379/.463.
Of course, Jeter's regular season numbers are a nearly identical .314/.386/.461. He's not clutch. He's just good.
by Landfill on Jun 19, 2006 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod
.305/.393/.534
What a choker!
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by shaftr on Jun 19, 2006 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod
by DeeDubs24 on Jun 19, 2006 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so good
However, Captain Hero Jeter has had plenty more chances and is just 17-73 with two doubles, one triple and one homer. 233/356/329. Willie Harris numbers.
by Bull Pain on Jun 19, 2006 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More A-Rod
Anyways...A-Rod has 16 RBI's in 31 post-season games. This translates to around 85 RBI's during the season, which is much lower than A-Rod's average per season (111 or so). Therefore, I think that A-Rod's label as choker is fair.
by DeeDubs24 on Jun 19, 2006 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rbis in a small sample size
Looking at postseason stats is difficult since the size of the sample is so small. My point is that Jeter is Captain Clutch and A-Rod is a choker, yet their playoff statistics are about the same, with an edge to A Rod.
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by shaftr on Jun 19, 2006 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is...
However, RBI's are not the best statistic to use because it strongly depends on whether or not there are runners on base. So, the RISP information is a much better indicator. Either way, I would say that Bernie Williams is probably the most clutch on the Yankees (I haven't looked at the stats, just going on memory), and Jeter's clutchness involves his defensive plays which of course, we really have no way of measuring. And A-Rod, well, here's A-Rod at his best...
by DeeDubs24 on Jun 19, 2006 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehhhh...
Also there are (admittedly flawed) ways of measuring Jeter's defense. And, long story short, it has wavered between mediocre and horrendous (undeserved Gold Glove aside).
The idea of a 'clutch player' definitely adds to excitement, and those 'clutch moments' will stay with us forever, but that doesn't tell us anything about the reality.
by generico12 on Jun 19, 2006 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its small consolation for a Tiger sweep
by zokmaad on Jun 18, 2006 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick couple of thoughts
- Really impressed with the Sox pitching this weekend. Contreras was better than his line indicated on Saturday, Freddy was good enough on Friday, and Garland killed some worms today while thoroughly dominating. Specifically, our pitching shut down Ken Griffey and Adam Dunn this weekend, the two guys I feared most.
- I know we harp on this a lot, but it still needs to be said -- Podsednik is really bad at reading the ball off the bat. I believe it was Austin Kearns who, on Saturday, hit a two-run blooper late in the game into short left-center field. I was sitting right behind homeplate, so I had a real good view of the whole field, and saw the play unfold before my eyes. Podsednik not only took TWO steps backward -- after he took those steps backward, he paused for ANOTHER second before he finally figured out that the ball wasn't hit far. Absolutely BRUTAL defensive play there.
- Guillen made two really questionable decisions this weekend. The first being, in the ninth inning on Saturday, making a double switch AFTER the Sox had batted in top of the inning, putting Mackowiak in center for Anderson. There was no need for that move at all; you put your best defensive group out there.
- Now that I got my bitching out of the way, Great American Ballpark is beautiful. It sits right on the Ohio (I think) River, the view outside the RF wall is spectacular. The sitelines themselves in the stadium are great, as every seat is tilted towards homeplate.
- Well done, Sox fans. For every game, there was a large contingent of White Sox fans. We got some "Let's Go White Sox" chants started, and even a couple of "Nah nah nah nahs".
- To make a long story short, I got a ball from Bobby Jenks while standing in the first row of the LF upperdeck (or, where Jermaine hit his homer) during BP on Friday. It was really, really awesome. I wasn't even calling for it; everybody in the bleachers below us was, and he pointed to me, and I made one helluva snag. : D
by CWSKeith on Jun 18, 2006 10:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pods' Defense
Congratulations on the Jenks' ball. I'm assuming you were decked out in Sox regalia and that's why he threw to you?
by Landfill on Jun 19, 2006 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mack v Pods
by zokmaad on Jun 19, 2006 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic - A.J.'s arm
When I saw A.J. get drilled those 2 times, I thought, "Sure, it must hurt, but he's got that body armor on, how bad can it be?"
During his TV interview last night, A.J. showed the back of his right arm where he got hit. It was a disgusting black and blue from his elbow up to just below his shoulder. How he didn't go out and clobber Padilla, I'll never know. Let's just say he showed great restraint. He also explained that he knew he couldn't afford a suspension, so he kept his temper in check.
Hmm, is this the ravings of a punk? The guy all other ball players hate? Sounds like an extremely reasonable guy to me.
by tailgater on Jun 19, 2006 1:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
speaking of AJ
a) Best Catcher in the AL
b) Best Player on the team
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by shaftr on Jun 19, 2006 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Want an MVP? A clutch guy? Jermaine Dye is your guy. He doesn't get the pub because he just goes about his business, staying out of the spotlight.
by tailgater on Jun 19, 2006 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and get's the job done....
by DickdaStick on Jun 19, 2006 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it too
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by The Wizard on Jun 19, 2006 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am 99% sure
by tailgater on Jun 19, 2006 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pods FPct slipping downward
Scott Podsednik OF
Go to Player Bio >>
CAREER STATS | SPLITS | GAME BY GAME LOG | HITTING CHART | POSTSEASON & ALL-STAR
Fielding Stats:
SEASON TEAM POS G GS INN TC PO A E DP PB SB CS RF FPCT
2001 Seattle Mariners OF 5 1 18.0 3 3 0 0 0 --- --- --- 1.50 1.000
2002 Seattle Mariners OF 11 3 51.0 16 15 0 1 0 --- --- --- 2.65 .938
2003 Milwaukee Brewers OF 139 130 1191.0 353 345 5 3 1 --- --- --- 2.64 .992
2004 Milwaukee Brewers OF 153 152 1361.0 401 392 5 4 2 --- --- --- 2.63 .990
2005 Chicago White Sox OF 127 124 1116.2 280 274 3 3 1 --- --- --- 2.23 .989
2006 Chicago White Sox OF 61 57 501.0 115 108 1 6 0 --- --- --- 1.96 .948
Career Totals 496 467 4238.2 1168 1137 14 17 4 --- --- --- 2.44 .985
This doesn't tell everything - but it's hard to believe he was a cf at one time. He looks tentative out there and afraid of the wall. No Rowand here.
by DickdaStick on Jun 19, 2006 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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