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White Sox vs. Tigers -- Garland vs. Rogers

Jon Garland (4-2, 6.04) vs. Kenny Rogers (7-3, 3.54)

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Kenny Rogers
Sure, he can sing. But let's hope the socks sweep him out of town tonight.

by tailgater on Jun 8, 2006 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The front office should get Mr. T
to follow him around with a video camera before the game.  

by chrome on Jun 8, 2006 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

that was friggin funny
now I have to clean the coca-cola off my keyboard
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I likes me some chicken wings for dinner
Rogers stares at camera following him around
Rogers: "WTF are you doing?"
Mr. T, looking from around the camera: "Dead Meat."
Mr. T then smiles calmly and eats Mr. Rogers left arm for dinner
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Killing time before the game starts...
Not that I give a rat's behind about the Yankees, but...

The legend goes that Wally Pipp got injured, Lou Gehrig replaced him and Wally never played again, right?

Baseball-reference.com shows that Gehrig debuted on 6/15/23 and ended up playing 13 games that year. He played 10 games in 1924. Finally, in 1925, he played 126 games, the same year Wally only played 62 games. Wally shipped off to Cincinnati the next year, while Lou became the starter.

So, he was actually called up a couple of times before he got "his big break."

Will we be saying the same about Uribe and Cintron in 50 years? Only time will tell!

by tailgater on Jun 8, 2006 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you serious?
In case you are, I don't see this as a Pipp-Gehrig situation. It's more like "Alex Cintron got a couple of hits".

Cintron: age 27 career OPS .728
Uribe:   age 27 career OPS .725

...and Uribe is vastly superior in field, at least IMO. So, I don't think any gets Pipped here.

by hitlesswonder on Jun 8, 2006 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No
just a smart ass killing time.

Now, I must get home so I can "strap it down for White Sox baseball."

by tailgater on Jun 8, 2006 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sox Lineup per Reifert
Pods LF
Iguchi 2B
Thome DH
Konerko 1B
Dye RF
AJ C
Crede 3B
Mack CF
Cintron SS

No BA even versus a lefty.  Sounds like AAA is on the horizon.

by the wimperoo on Jun 8, 2006 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep...Anderson's got to produce,
but I can't say I agree with how sparingly he's been used in the past, what is it, 3-4 weeks now?  Rick Hahn on the Score today talked about how the organization hasn't lost confidence in Anderson, but they're worried he may have lost confidence in himself.  Well, it's got to be difficult to gain confidence, and a rhythym, when you are used sparingly for so long.  If they are to send him to AAA, at least give him a week of consecutive starts to give him one last chance to prove himself.  

by chrome on Jun 8, 2006 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed
In fact, I'd go longer than a week.  Tell him he's the starter until the ASB.  Tell him 5/6 starts a week and see what happens.  I'll trade his black hole like offense for his defense.  
Optimist

by Peder on Jun 8, 2006 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullpen options...
Do you guys think that maybe we can get Verlander and Zumaya? They throw hard, are young and cheap.

Maybe a package of Haeger and Jerry Owens with Rogowski thrown in for good measure will get it done.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 5:04 PM CDT reply actions  

yikes
Joe

Are you on crack?

The first place team in our division is going to trade thier starting center fielder to the team who is chasing them while he is "cheap, [with] good speed, and young"

I'm saying this as nicely as possible. Get your head out of your ass.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

Umm, Cheat, your words right back at yah. Why would Detroit give two young pitchers to their division rival?

Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might
have missed the sarcasm in that statement.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, I did
I thought maybe someone got ahold of your password cuz that was just silly wrong to post

too bad we can't format sarcasm

Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are hilarious!
I wish I could format sarcasm in that one as well.

by MrBananaHammock7 on Jun 8, 2006 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-Oh....someone's sensitive!
Everyone is just playing around MBH.  And if Isiah Thomas takes over as GM for the Tigers, maybe that trade has a chance.

by chrome on Jun 8, 2006 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

who stole cheat's password?
:p
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we get...
Timo packaged in the deal???

by DeeDubs24 on Jun 8, 2006 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

If...
Aron Rowand's not involved, I don't want any part of a trade.

by madvillian on Jun 8, 2006 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Deadpin
Has just scooped that Pujols' trainer is linked to HGH.

Great.  Just what the game needed.

by madvillian on Jun 8, 2006 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I think some D-back players
and Jeff Nelson are going to go down with this ship. As bad at this may sound, I am really ancitpating that list coming out.

by MrBananaHammock7 on Jun 8, 2006 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's a bombshell....
Oh, and he apparently outs the Dominican corked-bat wife-beater as well.

by chrome on Jun 8, 2006 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read that too
add that to the cards losing 6 of 7 to the cubs and reds, I think Will Leitch is ready to take a carbon monoxide aided nap
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lineups
Jon Garland (R, 4-2, 6.04, 37, 16, 1.49) vs. Kenny Rogers (L, 7-3, 3.54, 41, 20, 1.22)  [Throws, W-L, ERA, K, BB, WHIP]

Time 7:05 p.m., TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR-AM 670

Good Guys:

    Name    AVG    HR    RBI    SB

  1. S Podsednik, LF    .258    1    17    21
  2. T Iguchi, 2B    .290    6    24    4
  3. J Thome, DH    .295    21    53    0
  4. P Konerko, 1B    .293    15    42    0
  5. J Dye, RF    .313    18    43    3
  6. A Pierzynski, C    .324    2    14    0
  7. J Crede, 3B    .296    9    37    0
  8. R Mackowiak, CF    .262    2    9    0
  9. A Cintron, SS    .281    1    11    5
Bad Guys:

    Name    AVG    HR    RBI    SB

  1. C Granderson, CF    .286    9    28    4
  2. P Polanco, 2B    .285    1    18    0
  3. I Rodriguez, C    .306    4    25    2
  4. M Ordonez, RF    .315    13    42    1
  5. C Guillen, SS    .300    7    31    8
  6. O Infante, DH    .301    2    8    1
  7. M Thames, LF    .302    10    17    0
  8. C Shelton, 1B    .291    12    29    0
  9. B Inge, 3B    .215    12    32    2
GO SOX!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

this may have been said before
but doesn't Ivan Rodrigez look much smaller in his upper torso?
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 8, 2006 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

jimmy on 1st
hit it paulie!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

yes!!
2-0!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

JD on 1st
oh yeah...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Dye should have laid him out!
With Pudge's bad back, Dye should have clobbered him.

by MrBananaHammock7 on Jun 8, 2006 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Retard 2% of the time?
Hell, Id take that from a 3rd Base coach. Quiet, he might bite ya.

by MrBananaHammock7 on Jun 8, 2006 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Garland
Looking Good! Rogers isn't looking as good.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't buy into the theory that you send a
guy when he'll get beat by 10 feet on the off chance major league players will make a mistake.  Gomez saved Cora's ass last night, but 95% of the time he's out by a mile.

We just had three hard hit balls in a row off Rogers.  Our odds are better we'll get another base hit, rather than holding out hope the Tigers will botch a relatively simple relay throw.  

by chrome on Jun 8, 2006 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

mack caught it!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

caught it, caught it, went out
tied...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Garland
Forget that. Like other Sox pitchers, he gives up a gopher.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Rogers
Has new life! Garland was lucky to only have given up one homer that inning.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

uribe is in!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

and cintron at 3rd
anything wrong with crede?
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crede is out
What's up with that?  Tracker says it's a back injury.

by Bull Pain on Jun 8, 2006 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

"sore lower back"
says yahoo...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do I have to keep repeating myself?
 EH EM! Once again walks lead to runs. YO, Jon, throw a strike, please.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Fly outs
Alot of balls are going deep. The ball must be carrying out tonight.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

christ
hello? baseball 101, mack.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Mack
Well he did go to the fine institution that is South Suburban College.  Not exactly a landmark of higher learning.

His bat, which is not even average, is not worth sending him out there to kill our starters who can't strike anyone out.

by Bull Pain on Jun 8, 2006 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mackowiak
is the best baseball player evar
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

and after mack costs us two runs
we're gonna send BA down tomorrow. brilliant.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

2-1
Forget the sweep. It was too good to be true.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Perfect illustration
Of how BA's defense prevents runs that Mack's defense costs us.  Is Mack really worth one or two runs per game on offense?  No.  I understand that they're worried about BA's psyche with all the struggles he's having at the plate, but if you just tell him to go out there and play defense and let the hits come later, it would probably be a lot better than sending him down.

Of course, Garland always blows it when things go wrong behind him, too.

by Ryno on Jun 8, 2006 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

i can't think
of any games BA cost us. he may have not won games for us, but he sure as hell doesn't cost us games. mack has - by my angry, not thinking about it too hard because i want to kill mack - cost us at least three games.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

all with 2 outs...
tracey warming up...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Help is on the way
Jerry Owens is hitting an awesome .227/.287/.298 in a ballpark with 340 foot power alleys and a 10 foot high fence.  We do such an awesome job of developing those OF bats.

by Bull Pain on Jun 8, 2006 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, Kenny!
Better get on the phone and make a deal. You're gonna need it.

by wsoxfan72 on Jun 8, 2006 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

because we have such a terrible record w/BA?
is my memory just biased or did we start to struggle when this whole platooning thing started?

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously...
It's like the Sox created a problem when there wasn't one. The offense had never been a problem.

Even if it is problem now, with people not hitting as much, Mack's career .730 OPS doesn't solve that problem and in NO WAY makes up for his atrocious D.

By the way, Mack's career OPS vs. Lefties is .488.
And Guillen said he would play against lefties today. It's going to worse than BA.

by hitlesswonder on Jun 8, 2006 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

the quasi-platoon began
by my count, after the fight in the cubs series. it didn't start off too badly - we lost the last cubs game but swept oakland - but then it went to hell. could all be a coincidence, but we're .500 since it began. likely to go to 8-9 after tonight's game.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

thome, kong, JD coming up
hit it boys...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

1-2-3
..
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

garland at 108-71
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

124-82
tracey is in...
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Focus Missing from Last Season
Mack obviously blew both plays in center in the 6th, but two other things about that inning are worth noting. First, what is Kong doing looking at the umpire after picking Uribe's throw out of the dirt when there were two outs and a fast runner going on contact? If you don't hear the ump call the runner to first out, shouldn't you take the safe route and make the throw home anyway? And secondly, after all these years Garland still can't seem to realize that he has to start over after a couple of crappy plays behind him and that being down 4-2 is a hell of a lot better than being down 6-2.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

yup
obviously you can't get into player's heads but i can't imagine that there weren't a few guys out on that field who were still thinking about what mack could have possibly been thinking. there's a reason mistakes often come in bunches. a guy makes a mistake, other players tell him to forget it when they maybe should be thinking about the next play, the guy who made the mistake is still thinking about the last play he messed up and makes another mental error, etc.

the sox last year didn't let one mental mistake occur  and so avoided that slippery slope.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more Mack comment
And while I recognize that Mack has maybe contributed mightily to a loss or two, he hit Street's first pitch for a 2 run pinch homer to tie one of the Oakland games. Oh, and let's not forget BA's poor play on Sunday--running toward the dugout when Iguchi caught the SECOND out of the inning and then failing to back up Pablo despite the fact BA knows Pablo is liable to make an awkward dive out there.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

So what you're saying is
Used properly, Mackowiak is a nice player to have.

(I think many will remember, I called that Mackowiak HR.)

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly
Mack is a solid bench guy whose glaring weaknesses are usually hidden when a manager needs to give a regular a day off.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mack
Especially against lefties. So much of me wants to say, put BA out there and tell him to play D and the hits will come, but I've got to think at some point he would be better served by going down to the IL and socking the ball for a few weeks to remember what solid contact feels like and to remember how to work a count and not always be defensive in the box.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah
but will the sox be better served? we're playing some darn tough teams this month. and the ball is going to start carrying more at the cell because of the weather. we're going to be playing teams where one mistake/one great play could be the difference in a lot of games. mack's defensive frailties are going to be magnified. he better get on one of his hot streaks at the plate.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might be right
but I can't remember the last time a full-time starter on a contender was hitting under a buck sixty. He can't even hit lefties right now, let alone tough righties. Then again, as I look at the upcoming schedule, I don't know that we're going to see too many of those until St. Louis.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

And BA tied up a game off Guardado
So I guess they're tied for late inning heroics.

Anecdotes aside, the bottom line is that Mack is a mildly better hitter than BA. He has a career .730ish OPS. And a career .488 OPS against LHP. And there is absloutely no comparison between the two in CF.

Making Mack a starting CF is a terrible idea. I think a few more starts against lefties will make people see that. Just play BA until they trade for someone. Playing Mack instead of Anderson is still a net loss for the team

by hitlesswonder on Jun 8, 2006 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

those errors were nothing compared to mack's
running in early? c'mon.

mack made two mistakes with the ball in his hand. i put those above failing to back a player up and getting poor reads/jumps on balls. you can be an outfielder without much range or arm - mack surely is that and plenty of guys have long, good careers doing that - but don't make things worse by doing stupid crap when the ball is in your glove.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt
I absolutely agree that BA is a superior outfielder. My comment was meant as support for the idea that BA's head isn't really in it right now, probably due in part to (a) not playing regularly right now and (b) having terrible at-bats.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dunno
those seemed like pretty small errors to me. i mean, kenny rogers was running in early today. when you're at a game, you usually see a player do that at least once a game - it just usually doesn't make TV. and the backing ozuna up? it looked to me more like he was tracking the ball as well and slowed up to avoid colliding with ozuna and just didn't get behind ozuna.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA
I have season tix but am stuck in the office tonight and couldn't make it to the game, and I hardly ever see guys forget how many outs there are. Surely not once a game. And the not backing up Ozuna thing...happened a play later.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

true re: ozuna play
maybe i exaggerated a bit - and the guys don't usually take thirty steps towards the dugout - but, upon reflection, i'd say i see a guy lose track of outs (or pitch count) once every other game i go to. watch the corner guys (or not, because this really isn't something to watch for).

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frustrating...
Garland was sooo close to pitching a very nice game, 7 Ks against 1 BB. Even giving up 4 runs, with his D letting him down, it would have been a good outing if he hadn't given up that homer to Thames.

Was it a changeup that Thames hit? I know the one Polnaco nailed was...

by hitlesswonder on Jun 8, 2006 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

put on your rally caps!
HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

It would have been nice to push across a run there
that would have assured a todd Jones sighting.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

silver lining
tracey looks like he has good stuff.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:28 PM CDT reply actions  

am i wrong
but is that the first debut by one of our "new" relievers - montero, logan, thornton, nelson, tracey - who managed to start their sox career by going two full innings in a row without giving up a run?  maybe we finally have a winner of the bullpen musical chairs game.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

No you're not wrong
Tracey has the best arm of any of the AAAA players we've called up this season. He'll give you a bunch of outings like tonight, but he's gonna be inconsistent like Cotts in '04.

If he throws strikes, like he did tonight, he'll ultimately find himself a role in our bullpen.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 8, 2006 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit
i'll take cotts '04 over what we've seen so far. hopefully having coop and AJ in his face telling him to get the ball over will help.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 9:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Kong
Mack's laziness with Rodriguez tagging from first cost us a run for sure. The throw home allowing Guillen to make second was a bad move, but is Paulie so beloved that nobody wants to take him to task for his brain fart in waiting to look toward the plate as Guillen came home standing up? That from our Captain?

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

he should have looked, no question
i'm also wondering why no one was yelling at paulie to make sure he knew he was going home. that's probably either cintron's or AJ's job. maybe they were and he didn't hear. paulie's primarily responsible but i'm not completely absolving everyone else on the infield either.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it goes back to your earlier comment
about these mental errors snowballing and everybody being a little bit guilty. I also have to say that there is no excuse for Mack or Paulie's mental errors period. They have each been playing this game for over two decades and are paid ridiculous sums of money as PROFESSIONALS. Professionals don't need motivation from managers or other players. Professionals don't need someone to remind them that with two outs and the opposing team's arguably best baserunner on second that he is going on contact and will be rounding that bag hard on the way home. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I needed motivation from other people every day or constant reminders about what my job entails, I wouldn't be around long.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

well
i think you're being a little harsh. i can't think of many people who do their job without having some sort of motivation from others. and professionals shouldn't require constant reminders of that to do; however, i don't think most of our jobs are as fast-paced and chaotic as baseball. it was paulie's mistake but that doesn't mean that others on the field weren't doing their job as well. i'm sure most of us have played organized ball and communication (and back up) is essential.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fast paced?
There is a break between every pitch where you get to think to yourself...what do I do in instance (1), (2), or (3)?!?

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

i suppose
i was thinking about how a play itself is fast-paced and chaotic.

by larry on Jun 9, 2006 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kong II
And that would have been the third out, score still 3-2 if he cut down Guillen at the plate.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 9:53 PM CDT reply actions  

I've a bad feeling mack will cost us
in the upcoming games

clevaland will throws us 2 lefties

HEY THIS IS JI
JIM THOME
THE PEORIA POUNDER

by The Wizard on Jun 8, 2006 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm especially worried about Saturday
because you know everybody's going to put the ball in play against Buehrle. Sunday the Rangers were peppering the gaps, etc. With Mack out there it could be a long afternoon. Not to mention I can't see him doing anything against Sabathia. I hope tomorrow night we have a chance at Mack not killing us because Javy strikes out some guys and C. Lee is struggling something severe.

by Toonderstrook on Jun 8, 2006 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

mack attack...
...it's pretty grim with him out there, but i can't look at another BA ground-out or K with two men on anymore.  It's just so bush.

by solbro on Jun 8, 2006 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

pick your poison
i'd rather have a guy who doesn't affirmatively lose you games like mack does.

by larry on Jun 8, 2006 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy crap that sucked
Traffic was freaking ridculous on the way there.  I missed the entire first inning which was the entire game for the White Sox.  Then traffic sucked just as bad on the way home.  F'ing 55.

by the wimperoo on Jun 8, 2006 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

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