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Fifth Starter Freddy and his amazing 87MPH Heater

The only thing more frustrating than sitting through a Freddy Garcia pitched game is watching Ozzie give him entirely too much rope late in a still-winnable game. -- I take that back. Scott Podsednik in the outfield might be more frustrating. -- There was nothing that Freddy did in the first 6 innings of 3-run, 8-hit ball, that should have instilled enough confidence in Ozzie to justify leaving Freddy in the game after the first two batters in the 7th smoked the ball.

Freddy speaks spanish too, so Ozzie can't claim that anything was lost in translation when he decided to stick with Freddy even after the third batter of the inning hit a screaming double to stretch the lead to two and draw Ozzie to the mound for a meeting. No, Ozzie left him out there to induce a groundout, and with the incredibly dangerous Shane Costa coming to the plate, called for the intentional base on balls.

Here's a quick guide for you Ozzie: If you don't have enough faith in your starting pitcher's ability to get Shane Freakin' Costa out, you don't leave him in the game. Sure enough, the next batter, the newly unblocked Ryan Shealy, drove in a run, removing Freddy and effectively any chance of a Sox victory. Shealy will be sad to see the junkballing Garcia leave town, as he finished 3-3 with a walk, which brings up another question. Why was Ozzie calling for the IBB to get to a guy who obviously was not fooled by Freddy's arsenal of hanging sliders?

* * * * *

What happened to Neal Cotts? -- Neal had a slow start to the season this year, but seemed to be rounding into '05 form at the beginning of July. His K-rate was climbing. His hit rate was falling. He appeared to be an integral part to the back-end of the Sox pen. Since July 14th, however, he's been brutal. Including tonight:

7IP 14H 4BB 5K
And most of the time he's been called on with runners on base. So even though his ERA remains respectable at 3.30, it doesn't begin to reflect the damage he has caused in terms of inherited runners scoring. BP lists him at -2.4 in the inherited runs prevented department. Just a couple of weeks ago he was in positive territory, meaning he was stranding more runners than the average reliever. With a decision to be made about Hermanson tomorrow, maybe it would be wise to let Neal have some quality time with Mr. Logan in Charlotte. He does have options remaining.

I'm just frustrated. I don't think there's any chance of Dustin Hermanson contributing usefully to any contending team this season. I doubt he will ever pitch effectively again at the major league level.

* * * * *

The White Sox could have come away from this 6-game stretch on a roll, a little closer in the divison, and atop the wild card. Each game was winnable, and would have been won by the '05 team. But this team found a way to lose two of them, and made the others more difficult than they needed to be.

Think about this: The Sox just took 4 of 6 on the road, and are farther out of the Wild Card race today than they were after dropping three straight to the Twins last week. They have to capitalize on these weak opponents. After all, it's not like they have a division full of tough lefties or Doc Halladay on the mound for their next contest.

The wild card is going to be an incredibly tough fight, a fight the Sox can't win without all five starters throwing well. Mark Buehrle took a step in the right direction yesterday. If I was Freddy, I would take a look at the bottom of my shoe. I think he stepped in something.

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Update [2006-8-3 0:18:11 by The Cheat]: Tarp off the field. C'mon Sox! Make me look like an idiot.

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Good job, Cheat
way to "cheat" the rain delay/loss in 8 innings by posting a recap early...at least we'll have closure from this game
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Aug 2, 2006 11:20 PM CDT reply actions  

It's sounds greedy...
...but the Sox really needed to go 6 of 6 against the Orioles and KC. It's pretty disheartening that it was in their grasp and the failed to do it. The next stretch of games will really be telling, as far as the pitching goes. Made even more challenging by the fact that the Sox will be missing 2.000 OPS from the lineup for who knows how long. And even when back, Thome and Konerko will be hampered. And I'm really sick of seeing the Yankees and Red Sox in the playoffs together, so someone better do something.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 2, 2006 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Per Soxtalk
Tarp off the field, baseball at 11:30?

by CWSKeith on Aug 2, 2006 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, but
Freddy got us to the 7th with three earned runs.  I, too, wish it was 2005 and the starters all had at least 7 or 8 innings of dependable stuff.  But we are where we are and I think going into tonight I would have taken 3 earned runs through six.  If Mark is sent out for the 7th last night perhaps that would have been a different story and we wouldn't be feeling a little better about him taking a step forward.  

So the real problem is 1) Ozzie apparently not knowing how thin the ice is going into the 7th for Frreddy and not using the bullpen crew he has, and let us not forget 2) we have to score more than two runs off of the Luke Hudson's of this world (despite the ravings of Hawk and DJ about how good he was in his last start).

I agree - all six games winnable and two thrown away (although the Gload grand slam win was kind of a gift, so let's say one thrown away)

by randy77 on Aug 2, 2006 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Truth is
it was 2 earned through 6. An unimpressive 2 earned through 6, but 2 earned in 6IP nonetheless.

Pull him. Let me rag on the bullpen's inability to keep a game close. I need a change of pace.

Ozzie pulled Buehrle early yesterday in the same type of situation -- he was just up by a run -- I just never saw the reason to 1) send him back out there for the 7th. 2) leave him out there when he's getting roped all over the yard. 3) leave him in there after going 2-0 on Shealy. -- I mean if you can't throw strikes to the rook, after intentionally walking Shane Freakin' Costa, you really don't need to be in the game.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 2, 2006 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shane Costa
The funny thing is, this isn't the first time Ozzie has IBB'd Costa IIRC. It's just like Ozzie's abject   fear of seeing Matt Stairs bat. Shane Costa...the new Matt Stairs

by hitlesswonder on Aug 2, 2006 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon, Cheat
Let's not be quitters.  This team deserves more respect than a lot of us have been giving it lately.  Beating KC is not the Sox' birthright, and neither is making the playoffs.  That's not to say that they will do either, or that the team has been playing well, but let's hang with them for a little while.

by GhostOfRooney on Aug 2, 2006 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

The game will go on fellas!!!
around 11:30 central

by ckimcircles on Aug 2, 2006 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Garcia
I don't like Freddy's junkballing ERA floating around 5 ways either, but I blame the offense and Ozzie for tonight.

Freddy didn't really pitch sunstantially worse than Contreras, when he was at 3 runs through 6+ innings. And I think he pitched to the limit of his current abilities. Ozzie has to understand that Freddy getting into the 7th, at 100 pitches, is done. Asking him to get big outs beyond that point, well that's what MacDougal is supposed to be for.

I wish Freddy was better, but he's not. Ozzie need to manage this year's pitching staff, not last year's.

by hitlesswonder on Aug 2, 2006 11:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Great effort, guys
Should've just left a note in the visitor's clubhouse saying that we wanted to get an early start heading to Toronto.

by CWSKeith on Aug 2, 2006 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

you didn't jumping the gun after all cheat
but you might want to add a piece about cotts in your recap

by longdrive on Aug 2, 2006 11:42 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks
and that's jump the gun, not jumping....duh.

by longdrive on Aug 2, 2006 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went to bed
and, based on that "effort," I'm glad I did.

(Apologies to Mr. Dye - who continues to be a clutch guy)

Just curious...did any KC fans actually wait out the rain? I can't imagine there would be more than 1,500 hanging around.

I pray for the health of Paulie and Thome.

by tailgater on Aug 3, 2006 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

How did I miss Neal's bottom of the 8th?
I turned on CSN at 11:30 and Hugh Downs was on selling something.  Then all of a sudden it broke into the game in the top of the ninth with the score 7-3.

Just as well, the Cotts / Politte morph seems to have begun.

by randy77 on Aug 3, 2006 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Garcia
Earlier i posted a scouting report of Garcia from 2001.  Reading that now, it is amazing that this is the same pitcher.
AIM: shaftr01

XBL: TheMattressMan

by shaftr on Aug 3, 2006 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

That's what I've been wondering
I remember him being a zambrano type of pitcher back with seattle.....He's not even 30 years old yet....I just dont get it....?????

by ckimcircles on Aug 3, 2006 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Freddy threw the O under the bus.
'I made my pitches,'' Garcia said. ''I never really pitch good here, but I threw well. We didn't hit. What can I say?''

And when we look at the division and why we are 8 1/2 behind.  Just look at how Detroit handled the bottom feeders and how we did.

Tampa in Tampa.  We lose 2 out of 3, they take 2 out of 3.  1 game
KC They are 11-1 We are 8-4  3 games
Cubs We play them twice but lets just take one series.  They sweep and we take 2 out of 3 1 game.

There is 5 games right there.  How we play down to bad teams and how Detroit feasts on them.

by southsideirish71 on Aug 3, 2006 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Absolutely right...
...for a little more detail on how the Tigers, Red Sox, and Yankees fare against the bottom dwellers compared to the White Sox, see my diary at right from this morning.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 3, 2006 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Garcia
the more he does stuff like that:  insult the offense, throw his hands up on a defensive miscue...the more that tells me that he will be out of here during the offseason and the happier I get.
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by shaftr on Aug 3, 2006 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed
What a jackass. While I think last night probably was as a good a start as you'll get from Freddy through 6 innings, what kind of competitor thinks that 5 runs on 11 hits against KC is really doing a job? I understand he's pretty mellow guy, but please...

by hitlesswonder on Aug 3, 2006 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

southsideirish71
did a little bit of creative editing of freddy's comments. in between the "we didn't hit." and "what can i say." freddy said "Going into the 7th inning, 3-2 and I gave up a few more runs."

a little tip: never take at face value a quote from a player. there's always a context and usually it gets left out. often there's also plenty of words in between the words you read that get left out, as well.

by larry on Aug 3, 2006 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Meat Loaf
If we continue to Meat Loaf our series, we should be fine and in the playoffs.

I'm just worried about Freddy's next start, he's got the opening game against the Yanks and the 13-4 C.M. Wang.

Refugee from WhiteSoxInteractive !!!

by ondafarm on Aug 3, 2006 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pot Head Fred
What do you expect from pot head Fred? His idea of conditioning is rolling joints and hitting doobies. The guy could care less about being in top pitching shape.
www.wagersharp.com

by wagersharpdotcom on Aug 3, 2006 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

this seems to be a running theme of yours
a) unsubstantiated claim from a venezuelan newspaper with no proof to back it up. if they actually found something, even if it's something explainable, wouldn't it have been reported? (see: landis, floyd)

b) even if it were true, it was the offseason. his time, not yours.

c) again, even if it were true, i strongly doubt he'd be "rolling joints and hitting doobies" during the season. with the added heat BarryCo has brought on players' bodily fluids this season, i doubt he'd be dumbass enough to do something to get caught.

d) and even if he were, see: wells, david and ellis, dock.

i suggest a more apt, substantiated nickname for mr. garcia, still full of the consonance you seem to love: "niece wed fred", "ego not-meek-o frederico", or my favorite, "arm's dead fred".

by thatshortkid on Aug 3, 2006 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

after posting, a few more came to me
"wet bed fred" for all his dramatics when accidents happen.

"never ready freddy" since after the 2nd-3rd he mows people down, but rarely kicks ass to start off games.

and, to fit in with both his offseason "bust" and his last name: "jerry".

i'm trying to think of one for how he blames everyone but himself for his outing, but can't get anything to rhyme. thoughts?

by thatshortkid on Aug 3, 2006 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody, except myself sees this......
What's wrong with this guy coming on here with his random "pot head freddy" comments all the time...Seems like he cares more about his drug use, then the way he pitches....

by ckimcircles on Aug 3, 2006 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always thought
Freddy's problem was drinking.  There were certainly rumors of heavy partying when he was in Seattle.  Either way, it has nothing to do with his arm, which is clearly not healthy.

by Bull Pain on Aug 3, 2006 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you go to Rockit on Hubbard Street any given
night during a homestand, you won't just THINK drinking is Freddy's problem.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 3, 2006 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Freddy (Garcia) = The Fourth Wise Man
To go with Jose (Cuervo), Jack (Daniel), and Jim (Beam).

by Toonderstrook on Aug 3, 2006 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't have the gut...
yet.

Isn't "partying" part of the baseball players' tradition, along with fast cars and female "companions"? What else are you going to do with millions of dollars and plenty of free time?

Freddy can drop acid, smoke a doob and shoot up with heroin for all I care...he's a big boy. It's his pitching I'm worried about.

by tailgater on Aug 3, 2006 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.
Although lately I'm just as concerned about his throwing teammates under the bus as his pitching.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 3, 2006 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't know he partied that much
during the season...Anyways, I could care less if he could just pitch better and FASTER!!
I swear I could remember him throwing in the mid 90's once...

by ckimcircles on Aug 3, 2006 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This coming stretch of 24 games in...
24 days is gut-check time. I can't remember such a brutal stretch.

by Toonderstrook on Aug 3, 2006 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: a little peeved
How the fuck does C Javy Lopez make it thru waivers to go to Boston? Does he have a ridiculous contract? (Woulda liked his bat on our bench even though he woulda bitched about playing time.)  
Free Ross Gload

by james@lifeinthecell on Aug 3, 2006 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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