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Young and the rest

When the Sox took the first game of this series with the Devil Rays in unimpressive fashion, there was some discussion about 'a win being a win.' Today's game proved that theory false. With the Sox headed to the 10th in a tie game, especially at home, Ozzie usually turns to his best reliever, Bobby Jenks. But because Tuesday's blowout ended with Jenks recording a save, and yesterday's game salvaged with an 8th inning rally and 9th inning save, Ozzie appeared reluctant to use Jenks for a third game in a row. The result was Brandon McCarthy pitching extremely high leverage innings with our best reliever safely tucked away munching on candy in the bullpen. I don't know if Jenks was absolutely unavailable, but Ozzie was clearly reluctant to use him in his normal usage pattern.

McCarthy made a couple of terrible pitches and killed the Sox opportunity for a sweep. The first was a 2-strike changeup to Carl Crawford. The location was decent, but because of the speed Crawford was able to hook the ball to be sure that Delmon Young got into third base. The second terrible pitch was also a 2-strike changeup; this one tailed back to the heart of the plate, and Jorge Cantu smoked it. McCarthy was working Cantu over on the inside corner with fastballs, looking for the double play. The changeup isn't a bad pitch in that situation, but it has to be down and away to get the strikeout. Up and over the heart of the plate is trouble.

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What happened to Matt Thornton? He has just 1 strikeout in his last 12 innings pitched, dating back to July 28th. He obviously needs a better secondary pitch, but his fastball has always been enough to scrape by with almost a K per inning. Boone Logan should be here tomorrow, but that doesn't mean he will.

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What more does Scott Podsednik have to do to get removed from the lineup? He reached base just once in the last 2 games, promptly getting caught stealing, and struck out 5 times. If Brian Anderson had a back-to-back games like that, he wouldn't see the lineup for a week. Ryan Sweeney can be here as early as tomorrow, but I suspect he'll play out the International League playoffs, and Guillen wouldn't use him over his speedy outmaker anyway.

In Podsednik's defense, he has some good company. Paul Konerko has looked just as bad at the plate in each of the last two games.

* * * * *

Overall, the White Sox missed out on a golden opportunity to really solidify their playoff chances. The Devil Rays were just 5 outs away from going two full calendar months without a road victory. That's right, the Rays win over the Sox is their first on the road since June 30th against he Nationals, and their first against an American League team since June 14th at Detriot. The Tigers are fading fast, and could have had their lead cut to just 3.5 games, the smallest since July 18th. Meanwhile, the Twins dropped a pair at KC, and head to NY for a 3-game series without Radke or Santana pitching.

The Sox need to take advantage of the weekend series in KC and grab themselves a working margin on the Wild Card and possibly put themselves back into the thick of the AL Central race.

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At least college football starts tonight
So I have something other than reruns of The Office to occupy my time.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Aug 31, 2006 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

ugly baseball
that's all we're going to see down the stretch. i've decided to just embrace it.

by larry on Aug 31, 2006 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't help but think you're right,
especially in light of the dearth of home games the rest of the way.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about that...and am too lazy to look.
But I do know that among Old School teams, the Sox have to be the only one to never make the postseason two seasons in a row.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

August is over.
September is a big month for us.  29 games left
3 at KC
3 at Bos
4 against Cle
3 at LAA
3 at Oak
3 against Det
4 against Sea
3 at Cle
3 at Min (1 in Oct)

If we play to current home/away percentages we'd get 16 more wins.

BTW, Last year:
August: 12-16
September: 17-12

by hawksview on Aug 31, 2006 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

no
the phillies, for a start.

by larry on Aug 31, 2006 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Radke can't even throw long toss.....
without pain right now. He's done. The Twins have Silva, garza and baker going against the Yankees. Even if Liriano does come back on Sept. 15th he won't be stretched out and would only pitch in 3 or so games. We really have to be considered the favorites coming down the stretch. 17 wins gets us to 95 wins. I think that will be enough.

by bhoov on Aug 31, 2006 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

And if Liriano
Word is he'd only be used out of the bullpen.  Let's open up some room this weekend!
Optimist

by Peder on Aug 31, 2006 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

red sox raise the white flag
looks like david wells is being shipped to a contender, likely west coast NL. now watch the bosox go on a ridiculous winning streak.

by larry on Aug 31, 2006 6:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Yet David Ortiz is coming back?
I thought he was their savior?

by hawksview on Aug 31, 2006 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cuts both ways...
While I am glad they are dead, I wonder if Torre would've used M. Rivera in game 2 of the twin bill against Detroit if the BoSox were still in the race.  Whatever.

by GhostOfRooney on Aug 31, 2006 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's used rivera
way too much this year. i'd be resting him, too, if i were torre.

by larry on Aug 31, 2006 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

PLAYOFF HISTORIES
White Sox: 105 seasons, 9 postseasons, 3 World Series titles, back-to-back playoff seasons? NO

Diamondbacks: 8 seasons, 3 postseasons, 1 WS, YES
Braves: 130 seasons, 28 postseasons, 3 WS, YES
Orioles: 105 seasons, 11 postseasons, 3 WS, YES
Red Sox: 105 seasons, 18 postseasons, 6 WS, YES
Cubs: 130 seasons, 20 postseasons, 2 WS, YES
Reds: 124 seasons, 13 postseasons, 5 WS, YES
Indians: 105 seasons, 9 postseasons, 2 WS, YES
Rockies: 13 seaons, 1 postseason, 0 WS, NO
Tigers: 105 years, 11 postseasons, 4 WS, YES
Marlins: 13 seasons, 2 postseasons, 2 WS, NO
Astros: 45 seasons, 9 postseasons, 0 WS, YES
Royals: 37 seasons, 7 postseasons, 1 WS, YES
Angels: 45 seasons, 6 postseasons, 1 WS, YES
Dodgers: 122 seasons, 27 postseasons, 6 WS, YES
Brewers: 37 seasons, 2 postseasons, 0 WS, YES
Twins: 105 seasons, 11 postseasons, 3 WS, YES
Mets: 45 seasons, 6 postseasons, 2 WS, YES
Yankees: 105 seasons, 45 postseasons, 26 WS, YES
A's: 105 seasons, 23 postseasons, 9 WS, YES
Phillies: 123 seasons, 9 postseasons, 1 WS, YES
Pirates: 124 seasons, 16 postseasons, 5 WS, YES
Padres: 37 seasons, 4 postseasons, 0 WS, NO
Giants: 123 seasons, 25 postseasons, 7 WS, YES
Mariners: 29 seasons, 4 postseasons, 0 WS, YES
Cards: 124 seasons, 25 postseasons, 10 WS, YES
Devil Rays: 8 seasons, 0 postseasons, 0 WS, NO
Rangers: 45 seasons, 3 postseasons, 0 WS, YES
Blue Jays: 29 seasons, 5 postseasons, 2 WS, YES
Nationals: 37 seasons, 1 postseason, 0 WS, NO

So, although there are plenty of teams with less World Series titles than the White Sox, the only only other franchises to never make the playoffs two seasons in a row are the Rockies (over 13 seasons), Marlins (13 seasons), Padres (37 seasons), Devil Rays (8 seasons), and Nationals (37 seasons).

Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus, you are a lunatic, Toonder
IF you are, in fact, in the legal profession you are costing your firm $300/hour researching these tidbits.

But as some one who procuresinfo as quickly and THORoughly as a NSA employee, I'd hire you.

by winningugly on Aug 31, 2006 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

First you doubt my power to issue
bolts o' toonder at will, and now this. I had sort of looked at this before, when I first heard that the Sox had never been to the postseason two years in a row. I wondered if any other franchise had suffered through a similar history. The rest was easy with baseball-reference.com. It only cost that client, er, I mean the firm, for 15 minutes of my time. And I'm young--the synapses still fire pretty quickly and allow me to research arcane topics very efficiently.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

And if you still don't believe me,
would anyone other than a lawyer be simultaneously researching judicial estoppel and law of the case under Delaware law and the effect of facts not appearing in a complaint but added in a response to a motion to dismiss under 735 ILCS 5/2-615?
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

YAWN!
How does one get through law school with subject matter such as previously described?
  1.  Lots and lots of blow.
  2.  Imagining triple billing nefarious corporate clients.
  3.  Multiple repeats of "The Paper Chase", starring John Houseman.
  4.  On-line poker.
  5.  Baseball Prospectus.
(Notice that "Getting laid" is not on the list, Toonder.  Working at 8 PM is no way for a young man to spend all of his days.)

by winningugly on Sep 1, 2006 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

My girlfriend is a lawyer, too.
So we're both lame. Truthfully, it was far uglier than 8 p.m. I didn't leave the office until 1:30. But...and here comes some good news and some bad news...it's because I need to wrap up a bunch of stuff before I leave for vacation on Tuesday. The good news is that if I didn't have a vacation soon, somebody (Pods?) really was going to get hurt. The bad news is I won't see a Sox game from the 5th-16th.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Sep 1, 2006 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have an ex-wife who lawyered at
McDermitt, Will, and Emery 20 years ago - they do tend to burn out their associates.  good you are taking a break but you will be missed.  Keep lighting candles while you are gone - by the time you return it may be decided, one way or the other.

Enjoy the weekend and your time away, bro.  We'll keep the fever going.

by winningugly on Sep 1, 2006 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you hear that Epstein wanted
Matt Kemp (and more) in a deal that sent Wells to the Dodgers?

Holy Crap.

by hawksview on Aug 31, 2006 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Guess
that's why he's on his way to the Padres instead of the Dodgers. But since we're on the subject of ridiculous trade demands, on behalf of the White Sox I hereby offer Scott Podsednik to the Devil Rays for Carl Crawford, Delmon Young, and Scott Kazmir.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!
When ws the last time YOU went to ta Jethro Tull concert and imbibed?  Yesterday?

By the way, a man (I assune) who is the de facto EXPERT on the 1970's sexual proclivities of male British rockers has told me I don't know shit.  In order:

  1. It was the DRUMMER of Tull who had the sex change, not he guitarist.
  2. Pete Townsend is NOT gay, he's just had numerous gay sex experiences, but in the end (ha) is NOT gay.
  3. The Judas Priest lead singer is gay but I spelled his name wrong.
So I stand MAJORLY corrected.  Bugger away.

PS We won 2 of 3 from a shit team, Minny lost 2 of 3 to a shit team.  I'll take it.

by winningugly on Aug 31, 2006 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question - I think it was in the eighth inning
but why did Ozzie pinch hit Mackowiak for Anderson, who was 1-3 and hitting well, when Scott Podsednik was next up?

If he wanted Mack's bat in the game, why take out Anderson?  His fixation with connecting Anderson and Mack pisses me off like nothing else this year.  It probably didn't even matter, as Mack struck out in his at-bat, but it's the logic behind it that I just don't understand.

by chrome on Aug 31, 2006 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Anybody hear the news?
Phil Nevin has been traded to the twins.

by hawksview on Aug 31, 2006 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup
I suppose he's an upgrade over Rondell "rally killer" White.  I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
GO SOX!

by rhythm on Aug 31, 2006 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing as how Nevin revived the Cubs,
I too am fearful for his presence the Minny lineup.
Viking God, Bears Fan

by Toonderstrook on Aug 31, 2006 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

think about this
the last 2 trades the cubs made were with the Sox two main rivals

think the cubs wanna see the Sox in the playoffs again?

i'm not saying there's a correlation, I'm just saying...  

by james@lifeinthecell on Sep 1, 2006 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

How can giving a team Neifi "Freaking"
Perez be a sign that they want us to lose.  Sounds like they want us to win.

by hawksview on Sep 1, 2006 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You guys are forgetting the power
of the "Negative Cub Effect".  A net gain for us.

by winningugly on Sep 1, 2006 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

South Side Sox casting
When the story of the 2006 White Sox is turned into a made for TV movie, I'll be pushing for Sock Monkey to play the part of Brandon McCarthy.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Sep 1, 2006 12:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent, Cheat!
So the next time B-Mac comes to the mound the Sock Monkeys can start twirling!

Can you make the site where these can be purchased a link on your blog page?  And maybe get a little juice for yourself per referred purchase?  It ain't mustaches, but we need SOME rallying cry!

by winningugly on Sep 1, 2006 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I used a precious "personal day"
yesterday (those of you with corporate jobs know what this is) to attend that craptacular game...even though I knew I'd battle 2 hours of traffic getting home to do so.

Is it just the Sox playing like crap, or are the Rays not too shabby of a hitting team? That Jorge Cantu is a mess at 2nd, but they've got some hitters.

My thought would be for the GMs for Tampa and KC to combine forces to create the "KC Devil Royals." Each has some talent...why not combine and get out of the basement.

Oh, and a shout out to the traffic "cops" around the park. Upon trying out a new way home, rather than my ususal "Bridgeport backroads" route, I was sent way east of the park, nearly got lost trying to locate I-55 and almost got on LSD (due to a lack of accurate directional signage) - my apologies to that guy I cut off making my last-second swerve onto MLK Drive.

by tailgater on Sep 1, 2006 9:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Yowza...
Where were you headed home to?  I live in Joliet and I avoid 55 at all costs.  But I ran into a similar problem when I was forcefully directed to drive around the Illinois Institue of Technology when they had Wentworth and the on-ramps to 90/94 blocked. I did end up on Lake Shore due to the wonderful detour signs.  It was so much fun!  

by rebstock on Sep 1, 2006 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've got this pet peeve regarding
people who use the term "backroads" to refer to "side streets".  You can take the backroads to avoid traffic outside of Norman, Oklahoma.  But when you are avoiding the main arteries around Bridgeport, you are traveling on side streets.

by chrome on Sep 1, 2006 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've got the same pet peeve
Its kind of the same thing as when people say  they're from Chicago but they're actually from  Grays Lake or some suburb an hour outside of Chicago.

When I was in college I would meet people that would say they were from chicago. I'd ask them what high school they went to and they would say Lake Forest or some shit like that.

by bucketofballs on Sep 1, 2006 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey now
In cases where people don't know who or what a Downers Grove is, saying "Chicago" is a timesaver.  

by Sox Machine on Sep 1, 2006 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I grew up in Chicago
spending 36 years there, so when I'm traveling out-of-state and people ask me where I'm from, I say Chicago...I think I've earned it. Saying "Batavia" doesn't have the same impact and it saves me from having to say "which is a suburb about 40 miles west of Chicago."

As for the use of the term "back roads," I am using it in the context of "a short cut to avoid rush hour traffic," as opposed to the context of secondary streets, so the pet peeve may be unfounded.

The real "peeve" we need to discuss is the continual use of Pods in left while leading off...and performing like crap.

by tailgater on Sep 1, 2006 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Podsucknik
is definetely the biggest peeve.

by bucketofballs on Sep 1, 2006 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nudnik
PS - I do the same down here below the Mason-Dixon line.  No one knows from Morton Grove, you know?

by winningugly on Sep 1, 2006 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

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