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Sweeney is fixing his swing

[Scott Merkin]:

It took Ryan Sweeney almost the entirety of the Arizona Fall League to produce his first extra-base hit, eventually finishing with one home run and two doubles. But the 22-year-old left-handed hitting top prospect in the White Sox system didn't seem bothered by this West Coast power outage, although it might be one of the traits he needs to exhibit to stick in the big leagues for the 2008 season and beyond.

"Right now, I'm trying to get the swing down where it feels comfortable to me. I'm not worried about the other stuff. Obviously I want to do good down here, but I'm not really worried about what I'm hitting or what the numbers are saying. I'm trying to get something that feels good. Right now, my swing feels good and my approach feels good."
...
Following the AFL title game, Sweeney intends to take a break from baseball until December. Assuming he's still with the White Sox at that point, Sweeney will resume working on whatever the White Sox have in mind -- even if it's an increase in power for this natural talent.

"It's the end of a long season, so it's not an excuse, but hopefully the power comes. If not, I guess I'll just have to be a leadoff hitter or something," said Sweeney with a laugh. "[Last season], I just went into one of the biggest slumps I've had in my career. Hitting .270 [for Triple-A Charlotte] isn't bad, but I expect much more out of myself than that. Being in my second year in Triple-A and hitting pretty much .300 my first year [.296], I was pretty disappointed. There's nothing I can do about it because everybody has bad years. I just have to hopefully forget about this year and just worry about next year."

Sweeney's team, the Phoenix Desert Dogs, will play on Saturday's AFL Championship. BTW, Baseball America has it's Top 20 AFL prospects list. Our presence is quite impressive.
*****
In other news,
  • Coco Crisp gets the highest plus/minus score at CF, 36, when "balls that hit an outfield wall at a height that is physically out of reach" are removed from the calculation (the Manny Adjustment).
  • Jim has video of Ryan Sweeney's first AFL extra base hit (3-run HR). He had 2 doubles yesterday.
  • Hot Stove: The Padres are interested in Matt Clement. Clement could be looking for a one-year deal with incentives. Torii Hunter is the Rangers #1 goal. Omar Minaya says he's willing to trade his top prospects for a starting pitcher. And Tadahito is a Free Agent.
  • The advantage of batting left-handed.
  • PMR stats for RF, 2B, and 3B.
  • And Carl has a new comic strip: Another Slow Start

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damn
you're right. very impressive.

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

I assume larry
means the 0-fer we took in the AFL prospects.
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe...
we dominated the 21-30 rankings? Maybe?

by HulkSmash on Nov 16, 2007 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting fielding stats
Byrnes beat Crawford?  WTF?  Gott ist TOT!  'Druw is still #1 in CF?  What kind of stats are these, anyway?  Could I be WRONG about him?  Should we try for him at a reasonable price? (Naaaah.)

And for those who pine for Adam Dunn, look at his numbers (-29).  Ack.  I'm still glad we don't have him.

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 16, 2007 1:36 PM CST reply actions  

wow
about 1.5 wins lost. i wonder if dunn's bat makes up for that...

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep - with the other station-to-station
guys he'd also hit a lot of solo HR's.  45 HR, 80 RBI.  I like that.  Are there any slow-footed CF's who have a lot of power?  Let's get the whole OF who get timed in the 40 yard dash by calendar - that would be entertaining.  Our whole lineup would start to look like the customers of  Stuckey's in Kenosha.  

I thought you wanted to go cheap?  Is this Hillary?  Pick a position, bro!

;)

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 16, 2007 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I had
no idea Griffey was that bad in CF the previous three seasons.

by BoKnows on Nov 16, 2007 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah
When we were campaigning for him to come here in '05, with Hawk on the "Where Would He Play?" tour, it was acknowledged that he would be our DH/4th outfielder ahead of Jurassic.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 16, 2007 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that.
I was leading the chants! I was more excited about the Eric Chavez rumors though. Barry Rozner thinks we lack The Fire and the Passion's intensity in the club house. I've heard some people say that they hope we get Andruw Jones over Hunter or Rowand, I tend to disagree with these opinions even though I think he is the better center fielder. We have too many quiet leaders on this team... we need someone who will stand up and challenge these guys besides Ozzie. Any opinions?
If you die with your eyes open you deserved it.

by Soulja Boy on Nov 16, 2007 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

And weren't you griping
the other day about the Sox NEEDING Carl Everett? Now you say you were leading the chants to get Griffey so he could play INSTEAD of him?
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No No No
So he could play in place of Rowand silly.
If you die with your eyes open you deserved it.

by Soulja Boy on Nov 17, 2007 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We have one of the smallest outfields
in the majors.  If we get a rangy CF, we'll be fine in the OF.
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 16, 2007 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

scenario
With Crede headed out to the Dodgers, Angels, or Red Sox wouldn't a Crede for Meloan deal seem too perfect.

(Anything that saves us from trading Garland for "relief help" is perfect in my eyes.)

Plus, I'd like to have another guy with a built-in nickname on the team, and Mayday Meloan is right up my alley.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 16, 2007 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

Does Crede have any value?
I just can't imagine a team giving up anything for him. At all. And Meloan is an actual prospect.

Plus, I'm guessing KW "learned" from last year's bullpen and goes after "proven veteran" relievers. I think Cowley is right, someone on the Sox will be traded for 2 bullpen arms, and it has to be SP in order to shed salary.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 16, 2007 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Trading for relievers?
I agree, and maybe KW will go the FA route. I guess it depends on the market prices -- which will be very high it looks like.

But, Cowley does have excellent sources, so it seems likely that Sox have at least discussed trading for relief. If it's Contreras, it may not be a fireable offense...

by hitlesswonder on Nov 16, 2007 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

not discussing it
internally would also be a fireable offense. i rather doubt the sox have actually proposed any trade for relievers. if they did, they must have backed away pretty quick because any team should jump on such a trade.

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Helluva name
Can't handle his booze, though.
2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 16, 2007 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure Barry...
Why don't we just sign Hunter and Rowand, then swing a deal for Cabrera?That article is comical.

I'd love to see Matt Kemp discussed in trade scenarios, but anyone who thinks that Crede will net two prospects is crazy. We'd have to send Crede + Garland for two of those names mentioned in that article.

Somebody tell Rozner that Loney plays 1B, not OF, and is untouchable as well.

by BoKnows on Nov 16, 2007 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

totally agree..
definitely trying to get some fans hopes up, but it's possible the sox can find a taker for him (crede) and like you said, a package of crede + garland to a team for a couple of good prospects.. Especially L.A. with colletti and torre as manager.. Being out here in L.A. I see colletti as a dumbass who blocks these prospects.. I believe a couple of the dodgers prospects, they feel will need another year to be ready which would fit since both garland and crede have 1 year left on their respective contracts...

I suppose you can squeeze/eek out someone who would be able to net cabrera in a package of say, sweeney, danks/gio, and one or both of the gained prospects in the deal.. I think i would still be against it for obvious reasons. but if they can get a deal signed to extend cabrera and put him out in left and keep fields at 3rd and let him develop, I could end up liking that deal. Now you have a few cornerstones to build around.. for now, its a pipe dream though..  blue ball fodder

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if he's untouchable
the only thing that comes out of the Dodgers camp is that they're looking for veterans despite the fact that they could literally field what looks like an at least average MLB club made of position players none older than 26.

C  Russell Martin
1B James Loney
2B Tony Abreu
3B Andy LaRoche
SS Chin-Lung Hu
LF Delwyn Young
CF Matt Kemp
RF Andre Ethier

If they're doing anything, they should be dumping the veterans for pitching help and salary relief.  They should probably target a star or two in an attempt to start a dynasty.  Ned doesn't seem to know what he has at all.

OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 16, 2007 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Loney
He's a stud. 23 years old. Hit .331 and OPS of .919. I know most people think Coletti is a moron, but he would have to be brainless to trade this kid.

by BoKnows on Nov 16, 2007 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I really wonder what he would do if offered
Konerko and change.  Or if not Konerko, then someone of similar talent coming off a better season.  They basically sunk their season with an unwillingness to trust young players.  That should mean something, right?
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 16, 2007 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, Loney's most likely going nowhere..
but You figure someone will get some of the others..
eithier, laroache, abreu, et all could be had for the right veteran colletti would think would give them instant
credibility with the L.A. fans.. with alot of colletti's free agent signings bombing last year for various reasons, you have to figure he's looking for someone proven on the trade front.

There has to be some sort of front office pressure to win now because as said above, the dodgers could be highly competitive in the NL west with the kids they have to fill out the roster but prefer to continue to push the likes of nomar and pierre out there invain.

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 5:42 PM CST up reply actions  

you may had something there
ryoungman@ocregister.com:
Dodgers GM Ned Colletti, who also has been talking to the Marlins about Cabrera, said Friday he thought had a deal with another team this week -- until the other team got "cold feet."

My guess is that deal was with the White Sox for third baseman Joe Crede.

by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2007 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

How about this tidbit:
"Baseball Info Solutions provides services to about half of the teams in Major League Baseball, including each of the last four World Champions."

That would include us. So KW's got detailed PBP which I assume he's using to either A) determine their own fielding ratings or he's using Dewan's fielding ratings. Either way the White Sox PBP source is Dewan's company. Interesting. It's nice to know we are utilizing advanced defensive metrics.

Fielding Bible likes Andruw Jones more than Hunter or Rowand defensively. And all of the systems think Eckstein was bad this past year. Maybe that's what kept us away from him?

by bhoov on Nov 16, 2007 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

what about signing..
Luis Castillo at second and give richar another year to develop.. Im still not sold on him to be the sole option at second over a full season.. I could see if he was awesome at 2nd with the glove (allowing you to be more patient with him at the plate) but I've seen him as being average with the ability to make some tough plays every now and again.. He's shown some signs of being a good player as he matures though. Why not get castillo on a 2 year contract with maybe an option for a 3rd year to entice him, you can still trade him in a couple years when richar matures. That solves your somewhat speedy Leadoff guy right there, but this guy actually has a good obp and has plus defense at 2nd. Ozzie gets his boy toy to play with.. All indications are that he could bunt! (let me throw up now) That allows you to put more power in the outfield where it belongs..

What gives guys??

It's all about the SOX baby! www.myspace.com/eternalkonflict

by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

understood
My question is why is it "last on the shopping list"??.. especially if kenny could snag a true "leadoff" hitter for cheap and on a short term contract with speed and getting the much needed power obp where it belongs in the outfield. All the while improving the defense.. uribe and castillo would probably be one of best double play duos in the majors with a staff that outside of vasquez, doesn't particular strike many batters out.

Especially if you're having a gap in defense from crede to fields at the hot corner.. Anyone else see this as an obvious low risk upgrade that fills a few  
holes on the team right away and allows the team to then open up many more options for filling out the outfield and bench spots?

Owens could be on the bench as a 4th outfielder where he belongs as they sign a guy like andruw jones, (who i agree they should be trying to steal right now with a cheat special out clause in 2 years) and having the kids duke it out for left assuming you trade crede and garland for prospects.. Tell me I'm missing something here..

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

You are.
Castillo is old and slow.
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

lol..
haha..fair enough..

I dont know.. I saw a rejuvenated castillo playing for the mets..

I think some people just have to understand the sox arent rebuilding.. Im all for searching for cost effective guys that can help in key situations.. and not overspending as you find the next phase of the core for this ballclub while staying competitive enough to sell tickets.
I just think he would be one of them. He's not gunna steal any bases, but he;s a better slap hitter than owens and can get on base at a decent clip and would be relatively cheap..

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

JO = LC = Shit
I am not an Owens fan. But then again, I also don't believe in all of this "true leadoff" hitter mumbo jumbo.  The fact that JO is fast does not make him a leadoff hitter since he never gets on base and doesn't steal second enough with no outs or third with one out to make up for his astonishing inability to muster up some extra base hits.  

If I recall right, everything I've seen and read lately (I wish I had my Bill James Handbook with me. larry?) indicates that Castillo is over the hill and about ready to roll down the cliff.  I will give a disclaimer that one of those sources may have been Keith "Long Arm of the" Law, who I really don't trust.

Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

roll off a cliff??
Im not sure if that chart that wiz posted up above would indicate an abrupt "roll off a cliff" in 2008.. I think he would be cool to slide in there just as much as anyone else while holding down a position that across the league on average wouldn't be a "power" hitter at the plate.  You may be able to do that in center but i would think that team would/should have power elsewhere in left, center, or short.. the sox have none.. so putting a more proven guy at the top of the order in castillo who will probably hit for better average,get on base better than owens, isnt all that expensive, add better defense and probably be a mentor for richar. That also opens up center, and left up to acquire someone with more power and on base skills..

You're absolutely right, "leadoff hitter" isnt a position.. but we're dealing with a manager that thinks it is.. The past few years, the sox are probably in the lower half of the league in ops combined ( all 3 outfield positions) in the outfield. Massaging his "leadoff guy hard on" and putting that guy at second where you currently have no power anyways.   Doing that, you would enable kenny to get jones in center, and put a guy like sweeney, anderson, etc.. duke it out in left.. You get both.. The sox sign who they should sign for center and get the best defensive guy and andruw is a slugging CF( like a younger dye in center) and someone in left who will have good obp skills themselves, but in ozzies eyes wouldnt be a "leadoff" hitter.

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 16, 2007 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Rolling off the cliff
may have been a little extreme, but he is on the wrong side of 30.

He generally did well baserunning last season, but I would be concerned about the fact he went first to third on singles 7 out of 31 times (Owens 5 of 8, for comparison's sake).  

Also, he has averaged about 20 extra base hits a season (in 575+ plate appearances per season) over the last 5.  

Finally, his stealing success rate, not to mention the number of steals, isn't very good either.

I just don't think you ensure Richar takes a seat for at least the next year to get Castillo unless he comes at a serious discount.

By the way, Bill James's projection for Richar is   .788 to Castillo's .728.

Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

You are en fuego, sir
And no comments about Wisc. spanking OSU last week?  Very dignified and mature.

So who is this, really?

;)

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2007 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

What's with everyone
jumping on the 'wrong side of 30' adage? You know guys, there are MLB players who are still successful after their 30th birthday. I get the reason for its usage and the point the youthful Cheat is making, but geez, let's watch the ageism here!

by HulkSmash on Nov 17, 2007 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

ah..
all good points.. I enjoyed your response.
Well I guess I wouldn't mind richar batting 1st or second then. Richar has shown some patience at the plate, looking at his stats. I certainly wasn't pointing towards that move as a significant one.
Or even one I'd do if it was my team or I was calling the shots.

I was just looking more in the eyes of ozzie and what buttons he would push (looking at how how he filled the lineup out the last few years). He generally puts the guys he would think of or perceive as "leadoff hitters", speedy/slap hit/steal bases/bunt/sacrifice the guy over type guys. Guys that we all agree ends up an automatic out more often than not unless he gets a ton of hits or is patient. The sox have had neither except for when pods was in early 2005. It seems that ozzie is relentless in finding that guy pods used to be. I'm hoping they've turned the book on the erstad, pods/grinder era.. the land of driving and persevering into an automatic out. If not, you've all seen what happens if ozzie doesn't get his medicine. You ever seen Mahone on prison these days?

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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 17, 2007 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

mahone..
on Prison Break I meant.
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by Eternalkonflict on Nov 17, 2007 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

yabuta to kc?
robothal:
The Royals, dipping into the Japanese market, are close to signing free-agent reliever Yasuhiko Yabuta to a two-year contract with a player option for a third season, according to major-league sources.
...
The White Sox reportedly had been interested in Yabuta

by The Wizard on Nov 16, 2007 5:26 PM CST reply actions  

Kenny will laugh and say that relievers...
cost too much in today's market and that's he's going to wait for "market correction".  Meanwhile, we will end up with Masset and Sisco in the bullpen again.

by SSH2005 on Nov 16, 2007 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

info on yabuta
rr:
More on Yabuta from Baseball Prospectus's Mike Plugh, who is their Japanese baseball expert. He listed Yabuta as the top of the second tier of Japanese free agents (after Fukudome, Kuroda, Iwase and Uehara).

Yasuhiko Yabuta, RHP, Chiba Lotte Marines Height: 6'0" Weight: 187 Bats: Right Throws: Right Age: 34

Yabuta spent most of his career as a pedestrian starting pitcher for the Marines, occasionally bordering on awful. But then in 2004 the club switched him to relief, and a star was born. Over the last four seasons Yabuta has distinguished himself as a terrific late-inning pitcher with the ability to strike out a batter an inning while also working multiple innings per appearance. His fastball tops out in the mid-90s, but generally sits in the lower 90s. The out pitch that has made Yabuta successful is his excellent forkball, which is almost always located nicely. In the WBC, he became one of Sadaharu Oh's most trusted relief options, and delivered 4 1/3 innings of two-hit, one-run baseball, striking out five and walking none.

by The Wizard on Nov 16, 2007 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

i wondered if their new manager
would help tap the pipeline to japan, considering it was his old stomping grounds. he's probably got as good of or better feel for these japanese players than anyone else in MLB.

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Garland to the Mets for Lastings Milledge...
a realistic trade right now?  If so, I would have made it last week.  Lose out on Torii Hunter to the Rangers and sign the better CF'er Andruw Jones instead and our lineup is looking pretty good...

LF  Lastings Milledge
2B  Danny Richar
DH  Jim Thome
1B  Paul Konerko
CF  Andruw Jones
RF  Jermaine Dye
3B  Josh Fields
C   A.J. Pierzynski
SS  Juan Uribe

You also add a bit more speed for those speed-nuts out there (not me) and it definitely doesn't make our lineup any older.  Then, all Kenny has to do is improve the bullpen by signing a couple relievers.  Go with a rotation of Buehrle, Vazquez, Contreras, and the best two of Floyd, Gio, Danks, Egbert, etc.

by SSH2005 on Nov 16, 2007 5:59 PM CST reply actions  

And I forgot to mention that...
having Milledge and Jones in the outfield would help make up for Dye's eroding defensive skills.

by SSH2005 on Nov 16, 2007 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

At least
break up the Konerko, Jones, Dye, Fields run.  How easy do you want to make things on opposing managers in the late innings?
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh???
Jones and Fields aren't fast runners but they aren't slow by any means.

by SSH2005 on Nov 16, 2007 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Who said anything about speed?
I was talking about the four righties in a row making it easier to conserve relievers for opposing managers.
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ummm okay...
Career Splits:
Paul Konerko (.828 vs RHP / .908 vs LHP)
Andruw Jones (.827 vs RHP / .878 vs LHP)
Jermaine Dye (.810 vs RHP / .864 vs LHP)
Josh Fields (.675 vs RHP / 1.062 vs LHP)

by SSH2005 on Nov 16, 2007 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok.
Number one, all of those guys do far better against lefties than righties.

Number two, maybe I just assume everybody manages like Ozzie. I wasn't calling into question that those guys could hit righties. But wouldn't you rather the opposing manager have to burn through a couple of relievers in an inning trying to play matchups?

Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

problem is who
AJ sucks more against righties than anyone in that list except fields. do you drop thome to #4? i suppose that helps some and gets you a L-R-L.

them's the problems when you only have a couple lefties.

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Splits
If you want to use splits for well-grizzled veterans, shouldn't you look to trends rather than career numbers?

For example,

Konerko: '05 L/R OPS differential: .061
         '06 L/R OPS differential: .079
         '07 L/R OPS differential: .204

Dye:     '05 L/R OPS differential: .016
         '06 L/R OPS differential: .102
         '07 L/R OPS differential: .164

Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

recent post on that over at BP
seems that career data is a better predictor. and the more data you have, the better it is.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=669

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks.
I stand corrected. Baseball always amazes me.
Spoken like a true prodigy. How about you, Lash LaRue? You think you can keep your spurs from jinglin' and janglin'?

by Toonderstrook on Nov 16, 2007 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

well
i wouldn't necessarily buy it completely. it could be that "old" players do have platoon splits that trend towards becoming worse as they get older.

by larry on Nov 16, 2007 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

JJC
Ya Yay!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by rhythm on Nov 18, 2007 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I give - who's the guy?
2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 18, 2007 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

No idea
In my own way, I'm ridiculing soulja boy. Judging by a lack of nasty replies to my posts, I don't think he's caught on yet.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by rhythm on Nov 19, 2007 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Doug Melvin of the Brewers open to the idea of...
moving Ryan Braun to LF.  But first, they need to acquire a 3B.

Let the rumors of Crede and Garland to the Brewers for Bill Hall and a prospect restart...

by SSH2005 on Nov 17, 2007 6:30 AM CST reply actions  

Did anyone hear about what Aubrey Huff did?
"Huff's act on radio panned by Orioles"

I won't link it here but if you want to see the video (NSFW), go to www.deadspin.com and search for "Huff".  The article is named "Aubrey Huff Admires Works Of Art".  Melissa Midwest is one fine piece of @$$.

by SSH2005 on Nov 17, 2007 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

Huff...
Kind of a D-bag. Baltimore sports radio was all up in a tizzy last week because of it. Rightfully so after the comments he made regarding the city, but more surprising they were a big deal since the Ravens collectively are more an abortion to Baltimore sports.

If he was at least a hair over league average, then those remarks may could have gone under the radar.

by krushcuts on Nov 17, 2007 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

A-Rod called Warren Buffett for help
in repairing damage to his Yankee relationship:

"Alex Rodriguez Gets
A Surprise Assist
From Fan in Omaha
As Yankee Slugger Whiffed
On Contract, He Turned
To Buffett and Goldman
By KATE KELLY and DANA CIMILLUCA
November 17, 2007; Page A1

In the public imagination, sports negotiations unfold along the lines of "Jerry Maguire" and other fictional portrayals -- fast-talking, bare-knuckled agents going to head-to-head with cigar-smoking team owners in a game of "Show Me the Money."

But when New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez stumbled in his efforts to ink a stratospheric new contract, he turned to a different set of characters: Omaha investor Warren Buffett and two executives from Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

Thanks to their assist, Mr. Rodriguez, one of the most talented but also one of the most controversial players in the game, is finalizing a 10-year deal with the Yankees which could reach $275 million over its duration, according to people familiar with the situation. The deal, if it comes together, would represent a high-water mark for any professional sports franchise. Mr. Rodriguez's previous contract, set to expire in 2010, was for $252 million over 10 years.

While Wall Street often lurks in the background of big-money sports, this was a rare occasion when financial titans played an intimate role in contract discussions for a professional athlete. Their involvement effectively sidelined the third baseman's longtime agent, Scott Boras, the aggressive dealmaker who first turned Mr. Rodriguez into the highest-paid man in baseball.

The Goldman executives helped reopen a dialogue that had been severed dramatically more than two weeks ago, when, at Mr. Boras's urging, the third baseman had declared free agency, spurning the $72 million he stood to make in the final three years of his contract and opening himself to offers from other teams. Mr. Rodriguez's move, leaked during the fourth game of the World Series, upstaged baseball's premier event, angering the Yankees, Major League Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig and many baseball fans. It also infuriated the player's critics, who had long grumbled about Mr. Rodriguez's post-season performance and voiced doubts about his loyalties to New York.

As a free agent, Mr. Rodriguez -- who left the Seattle Mariners for a bigger pay day -- was available to all 30 Major League Baseball teams. But interest was tepid, according to published reports, spurring speculation that Mr. Rodriguez and his agent may have overreached.

Discussions between Mr. Rodriguez and Yankee executives occurred over a frenetic three-week period that included a worried phone call the third basement placed to Mr. Buffett late last week.

As money managers for the Steinbrenner family, which controls the Yankees, and significant investors in the team's Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network cable network, Goldman's ties to the organization run deep. By sidestepping Mr. Boras, Mr. Rodriguez was not only breaking tradition, but ran the risk of alienating the baseball player's union. But it appears the risk paid off: Though the deal has not yet been finalized and could still fall apart, people familiar with the matter say it is coming together.

The agent "has represented his clients well and has gotten them precedent-setting contracts," says Lon Babby, a sports lawyer at Williams & Connolly. But "it's the player that creates value, not the agent."

Mr. Boras did not return calls for comment, and the Yankees declined to make Mr. Rodriguez available for comment.

Mr. Rodriguez's initial defection happened in late October, a tense period for the team during which its beloved manager Joe Torre was effectively ousted after the Yankees were eliminated in the playoffs. Hoping to net a richer contract elsewhere, Mr. Boras advised his client to exercise his opt-out clause, a move reported Oct. 29. The player reluctantly took his agent's advice, say people familiar with his thinking, even though he and his wife Cynthia were eager to stay in New York and have him continue to play for the Yankees.

Amid deafening criticism by sports writers and on talk radio, a worried Mr. Rodriguez called Mr. Buffett, say people familiar with the matter. The two had become friends a few years ago, after the slugger flew to Omaha to meet with the investing guru and rabid baseball fan. After that, the two met socially several more times, say the people familiar with the matter. Signifying their mutual admiration, an autographed Rodriguez jersey hangs at Berkshire Hathaway's Omaha headquarters.

Mr. Buffett's advice was simple, says a person familiar with the matter: approach the Yankees solo, without Mr. Boras. "A-Rod really loves being a Yankee," says Mr. Buffett. He declined to comment on the substance of any conversation with Mr. Rodriguez, saying he doesn't discuss private talks.

The day after his opt-out was publicized, Mr. Rodriguez contacted Goldman wealth manager John Mallory, whom he had met through family in Miami. Although Mr. Mallory had moved to Los Angeles, Calif. about a year ago, where he now manages Goldman's southwest wealth-management division, the third baseman had stayed in touch, say these people, and the Goldman executive continued handling the Steinbrenner family's wealth-management account, giving him a close link to the team's owners.

During the call, Mr. Rodriguez appeared to be "beside himself" that he was on the outs with the Yankees and eager to extend an olive branch, say people with knowledge of the matter. Mr. Mallory promised to see what he could do, this person adds.

Mr. Mallory called Gerry Cardinale, the Goldman partner who handles media and telecommunications investments for the firm's private-equity unit. "You're not going to believe this," said Mr. Mallory, according to people with knowledge of the matter. He explained that Mr. Rodriguez had called, and that the player wanted to "reestablish a dialogue" with the Steinbrenners.

Mr. Cardinale, 40, was confident he could do something. He had been well acquainted with the family since 2001, when Goldman invested in YES. He immediately called Yankees president Randy Levine and told him of Mr. Rodriguez's remorse. "He's genuine," Mr. Cardinale said, according to the person with knowledge of the matter. "I think you guys should hear him out." Shortly thereafter, Mr. Mallory flew to Miami to help Mr. Rodriguez strategize.

Mr. Levine got in touch with Hank and Hal Steinbrenner, the sons of Yankee organization Chairman George Steinbrenner. Their response: They would talk, but only if Mr. Boras weren't involved.

Over the next several days, Messrs. Cardinale and Mallory acted as the go-betweens for the player and the team, say people familiar with the matter. While the Rodriguezes huddled with Mr. Mallory in Miami, Mr. Cardinale kept in touch from New York, these people say. Once the player had made contact with the Steinbrenner brothers, the Goldman executives stepped aside, leaving the parties largely on their own to talk.

One reason the Goldman executives recused themselves is baseball's Collective Bargaining Agreement. According to the regulations, the agent of record is the only person besides the player himself who can negotiate on the player's behalf.

If the deal goes through, it's a happy ending for most everyone involved. The 32-year-old Mr. Rodriguez gets a richer pay package, which includes incentives if he manages to reach goals like breaking the home-run record set by Barry Bonds. The Yankees and Goldman get to keep Mr. Rodriguez's star power, which helps sell tickets and attract cable viewers.

And Mr. Boras still gets his commission.

--Russell Adams and Karen Richardson contributed
to this article"

See, we're all fans who want signed jerseys of our heroes hanging in our offices.  Cheat, can you sign a post or two for us?  I'll buy.

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2007 9:58 AM CST reply actions  

ESPN Trade Rumors
I love Aaron Rowand, but I am sure I'm not alone when I offer my opinion that the Sox should be praying he signs with L.A. Dodgers.  He would play CF, and they would be forced to move Pierre to LF.  That leaves RF for either Ethier or Kemp.

Most likely Ethier gets the nod in RF, which makes Kemp available.  So, if the chips do fall like that, Jon Garland makes perfect sense for L.A.  Kemp solves our problem in LF and makes us younger.  He is the type of player that KW could start a young nucleus around.

by BoKnows on Nov 17, 2007 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

I think this is a pipe dream
but I really hope it isn't.
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 17, 2007 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

even if they end up trading kemp
why would they trade him to us?

anyway, like you I hope he ends up in the south side

by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2007 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Pull the trigger Kenny!
The Chicago media would love it -- shelling out for a leadoff hitter with grit. Overpaying for that would just show a commitment to winning! Hell, give more than what he wants!

by hitlesswonder on Nov 18, 2007 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

We are probably going to end up with Rowand...
after I see Rosenthal write this:
Aaron Rowand is seeking $60 million over five years, according to one executive. His request is not unreasonable considering the evolution of the free-agent market for center fielders.

by SSH2005 on Nov 18, 2007 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

Uggh
Rowand at 5 years... Hunter wants 6-7 years. Even I have to know say no.
"Find out what you are doing wrong and STOP doing that."

by Tdogg on Nov 18, 2007 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

evolution, huh
didn't we all know it was going to "evolve" this way? pass on the high-profile guys and pick up the leftovers - the kenny williams way.

by larry on Nov 18, 2007 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

The Kenny Williams way is trash...
The fact that he isn't focused on Andruw Jones as his #1 free agent target and thinks that both Hunter and Rowand are better tells me all I need to know about our GM.

by SSH2005 on Nov 18, 2007 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

come here omar, all we want is lastings
dobrien@ajc:
Glavine's agent says deal with Braves close

Tom Glavine's anticipated reunion with the Braves could be finalized today, the veteran pitcher's representative said Saturday after negotiations brought the sides close to an agreement on what's likely to be a one-year contract worth about $8 million.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2007 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Rangers wooing Hunter
trs:
Rangers owner Tom Hicks is scheduled to meet and have dinner with free-agent center fielder Torii Hunter on Monday night.

General manager Jon Daniels is also expected to join the wine-and-dine session and the Rangers will likely extend a formal offer on a five-year contract. Hunter is the Rangers' No. 1 free-agent target of the offseason. Daniels and manager Ron Washington have already met with Hunter, but this will be Hicks' first chance to meet him. Hunter makes his offseason home in the Dallas area.

The Rangers also have interest in free-agent center fielder Aaron Rowand but appear to be focused on Hunter right now. Texas has serious competition in the center-field market, as the Los Angeles Dodgers, Kansas City Royals, Atlanta Braves, Chicago White Sox and Baltimore Orioles are among the teams who are looking for a center fielder.

The Rangers are also interested in Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome, who is an unrestricted free agent. But he may stay in Japan. He played for the Chunichi Dragons last year, but is being strongly courted by the Yomiuri Giants, the most glamorous team in Japan.

Fukudome has played center field, but the Rangers see him as a corner outfielder. They have also explored the possibility of acquiring a center fielder through a trade. They have talked to the Red Sox about Coco Crisp and have inquired about Rays outfielder Carl Crawford. In that case, the Rangers don't appear to be a trade match with the Rays as both clubs are trying to go with younger players.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2007 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

Dump Cintron...
and bring back Jason Bourgeois to be our cheap utility guy.  He can play the infield and outfield and he's just turning 26.
Free agent Jason Bourgeois drove in six runs Saturday for Los Mochis of the Mexican Pacific League.
Bourgeois is back playing second base in Mexico after spending most of the last couple of seasons in the outfield. The versatility could be his ticket to having a career as a bench player in the majors. The soon-to-be 26-year-old hit .306/.365/.440 between Double- and Triple-A last season and is currently at .304/.377/.413 in the MPL.

by SSH2005 on Nov 18, 2007 9:30 PM CST reply actions  

Rosenthal reporting...
"Sources: Mets close to re-signing Castillo"
The Mets, overcoming stiff competition, are close to re-signing free-agent second baseman Luis Castillo to a four-year, $25 million contract, according to major-league sources.

Also, in a minor trade, the Blue Jays acquired infielder Marco Scutaro from the Athletics RHP Graham Godfrey and RHP Kristian Bell.

by SSH2005 on Nov 18, 2007 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

Not at all....
seeing that there #2 option was Eckstein, the deal is pretty great.

by HulkSmash on Nov 19, 2007 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Larry
I think Jerry Owens b-r page could use an update.
"I'm not a 6-year-old." -Brian Nikola "Ungrindy" Anderson

by omnipotent grab on Nov 18, 2007 9:52 PM CST reply actions  

you're right
i was waiting to see who the sox signed because i had some ideas along that line; if you've got anything in the interim, feel free to suggest...

by larry on Nov 19, 2007 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Leadoff hitter
Something along the line of him being in the "leadoff position".
"I'm not a 6-year-old." -Brian Nikola "Ungrindy" Anderson

by omnipotent grab on Nov 19, 2007 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Sox are among five finalists
for that Japanese reliever Yabuta.  I'm sure wiz or SSH will follow with a link.  The five 'contenders' are us, KC, Cleveland, Pittsburg and Tampa Bay.  There's no reason the Sox shouldn't win the bid here.

by CWSKeith on Nov 18, 2007 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

link
mg:
The White Sox are among five teams in the running for Japanese reliever Yasuhiko Yabuta. The Sox are looking for bullpen help, and Yabuta has told Japanese media the Sox, Royals, Indians, Rays and Pirates are the finalists for his services. Yabuta, a 34-year-old right-hander, had a 2.73 ERA in 58 appearances for the Chiba Lotte Marines last season. He filed for free agency last month.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2007 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...
If we can't beat out low payroll teams like the Royals, Indians, Rays and Pirates in signing a Japanese reliever, Kenny may as well stay home this offseason.

by SSH2005 on Nov 19, 2007 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Glavine
officially signed with the Braves. Kenny...

by HulkSmash on Nov 19, 2007 9:00 AM CST reply actions  

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