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Sox not particularly high on Lastings Milledge?

[ken.davidoff@newsday.com]:

The bulk of Minaya's efforts, he indicated, will be focused on upgrading the Mets' pitching staff. The Mets have spoken numerous times with the Athletics about Joe Blanton and with the White Sox about Jose Contreras and Jon Garland, and those pitchers can be had once again. The Mets also will speak to the representatives of free-agent righthander Carlos Silva this week at the meetings. ...

... The White Sox are open to dealing Contreras, who has two years and $20 million left on his contract, and Garland, who has one year and $12 million. The Mets were intrigued by Contreras in the past, as they think the presence of Orlando Hernandez could help El Duque's fellow Cuban native. In return for starting pitchers, the White Sox are looking for outfield bats, bullpen arms and possibly a shortstop, as Juan Uribe is a potential free agent. They are not particularly high on Milledge, a person familiar with the team's thinking said.

Yes, our CF options are much better.
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San Diego is looking for a centerfielder. Let's see what the Padres' Scott Merkin says.

[Corey Brock / MLB.com]:

The Padres need another outfielder who bats above .280, hits over 20 home runs and, hopefully, has above average speed. What's the availability of such a player, and what are the Padres' chances of signing him? -- Gary B., San Diego

It's no secret the Padres will, first and foremost, according to general manager Kevin Towers, be looking for a bat during the offseason to upgrade an offense that was among the worst in baseball last season. That bat, likely an outfielder, could be any number of players. The team is interested in Japanese outfielder Kosuke Fukudome, who can sign with any Major League team. Fukudome, a left-handed batter, is a doubles machine, which could play well at PETCO Park. He has been compared to Todd Helton for his approach to hitting. And he's a plus defender, though I'm not sure if he would be a fit in center field. Remember, the Padres don't need a bopper (although that wouldn't hurt) as much as they need a productive bat, someone with patience and the ability to drive in runs in critical situations. Geoff Jenkins, whose option was declined by the Brewers, could be a possibility. He's a left-handed hitter as well. Here's another name I like: Brian Anderson of the White Sox. He hasn't panned out in Chicago but he's a center fielder and a very good defensive player with a lot of offensive upside.

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That seems like...
more a tactical comment than anything else.  If the Sox were really interested in Milledge, it wouldn't be a good idea for them to be blabbing to everyone that they would do whatever it takes to get him.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Nov 6, 2007 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Get rid of the Count ASAP
If the proposed trade involved Contreras + ___ for Milledge, then the Sox front office should be high-fiving, trying not to scream into the phone, and holding back tears of joy.

by BoKnows on Nov 6, 2007 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

Contreras + Egbert + $$$ for Milledge?
Was I the only one who read that as the Mets not being high on Milledge, not the Sox?

by CWSKeith on Nov 6, 2007 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

+1 to Cheat
for the new Maxim adds.

(I say this with knowing that Cheat most likely doesn't have a say in which ad is up.)

by CWSKeith on Nov 6, 2007 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

Wiz,
I gotta tell you - you're the best. All the work on timely information.  Thank You.

by ballyb on Nov 6, 2007 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

The White Sox aren't high on Milledge...
but they are high on an old scrub like Eckstein.  Great.

I guess a 22 year old center fielder who just posted a .272/.341/.446/.787 line wouldn't appeal to me either.  I'd rather see Jerry Owens out there cuz he has more SPEED!!1!

Seriously, what the f*ck is wrong with our organization?  Can we clean house already?

by SSH2005 on Nov 6, 2007 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

Why do you believe everything
You read. You really think the Sox are not interested...?
"Find out what you are doing wrong and STOP doing that."

by Tdogg on Nov 6, 2007 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Get back to me when the Sox...
acquire a good, young position player instead of sign old, washed-up vets.

by SSH2005 on Nov 6, 2007 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh and how often
Is the media right about what KW will or wont do? Please. The point is that tiny tidbit hasnt been linked to KW's mouth to my knowledge.
"Find out what you are doing wrong and STOP doing that."

by Tdogg on Nov 6, 2007 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey I was going to post that...
The Sox being down on Milledge is like a badge of honor -- I now expect great things from him.

At this point, I don't have much hope that the Sox talent evaluation is going improve until there is a new GM.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 6, 2007 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

The legend grows
Rowand wins his first gold glove.
"Find out what you are doing wrong and STOP doing that."

by Tdogg on Nov 6, 2007 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

Stitch for stitch, broken nose for
broken nose, the best CF in the history of baseball.

His asking price just went up.

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Gold Standard!
Nice to see Rowand win himself some well-deserved hardware.

by HulkSmash on Nov 6, 2007 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

wow
the winners are surprisingly adept fielders... Or at least were at one point in the recent past.

They're getting better.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 6, 2007 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeter - DEAD! Chavez - DEAD! Good.
But Youkilis?  He may be perfect but I just can't get used to the idea of the Gold Glover being supplanted in the WS by Big Papi.  I mean, how good could he be?
2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Off - topic (OK, it was a slow work day)
Don Shula is a douchebag.

"The Spygate thing has diminished what they've accomplished. You would hate to have that attached to your accomplishments. They've got it," Shula told the Daily News yesterday. "Belichick was fined $500,000, the team was fined $250,00 and they lost a first-round draft choice. That tells you the seriousness or significance of what they found.

"I guess you got the same thing as putting an asterisk by Barry Bonds' home run record. I guess it will be noted that the Patriots were fined and a No.1 draft choice was taken away during that year of accomplishment. The sad thing is Tom Brady looks so good, it doesn't look like he needs any help."

Told that he might get support in his desire to have an asterisk placed next to New England's potential perfect season, Shula, the winningest coach in NFL history, said, "I don't know how people can't agree with that."

The Patriots were caught on the sidelines videotaping the Jets' defensive signals in the first half of the opening game of this season. They were forced to turn over tapes of all their previous spying to two league senior vice presidents in Foxborough in September. After they were viewed, commissioner Roger Goodell surprisingly ordered the tapes destroyed.

"You have to acknowledge what they accomplished, but I don't know how you disregard Spygate," Shula said. "It's there. It happened. You don't know what was on those tapes and how much it helped. I think the commissioner just wanted it to go away."

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

Yet still...
the Pats have managed to make teams look like JV B-teams from the South Side. I'm not a Pats fan, but this team is ridiculous, and anyone who has watched them this year knows what I mean. I mean, for God's sake, they stuck Sammy Morris in that system...and made him look good.

And I'm sure Shula is all about the integrity of the game, and the integrity alone. That's why he and the rest of the retired perfect Dolphins stand on the sidelines in their schaudenfreud glory, waiting for undefeated teams to fall. What an ass.

by HulkSmash on Nov 6, 2007 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Shula speaks!
Sounds like he was disoriented when he woke up from his nap.
"We've missed a little bit of that grind and edge and we've got to get that back." - Kenny Williams

by ChicagoPete on Nov 6, 2007 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

More off topic---
Anybody hear what kind of renewal rate the Sox got on season tix? I renewed early last week, the deadline was Friday. Anybody? I'm hoping to upgrade (W/E PLAN).

by dantesox on Nov 6, 2007 5:32 PM CST reply actions  

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by The Cheat on Nov 6, 2007 5:58 PM CST reply actions  

ROFL!
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by rhythm on Nov 6, 2007 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Is this picture from 1984-1997?
If so, could be....
2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

That is cheat's mom!
Lookin good let her know I am interested. I'll lay the plumbing down if she needs it.
If you die with your eyes open you deserved it.

by Soulja Boy on Nov 8, 2007 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

wow
that's dumb. and he wanted a two year deal?

by the way, can we get some sort of countdown clock going for picking up uribe's option? tomorrow's d-day. i know i'm waiting with bated breath for the stunning conclusion of this saga. will there be a trade? a shooting? the glorious return of profundo? tune in. same chubby time, same chubby channel.

by larry on Nov 6, 2007 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

i
THINK THEY SHOULD PICK IT UP if they think they can't decline and resign him for less. at minimum, he's great insurance at all infield positions, even if a little expensive.

by dantesox on Nov 6, 2007 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

if vizquel get $5.5MM
then uribe is probably worth $5MM.

by larry on Nov 6, 2007 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah
In reality, this isn't all that big a decision. If you have any doubt at all you can retain him after declining, you DO NOT take the chance. Would I love to...yes...and give him 3 mil+ WEIGHT CLAUSE INCENTIVES....SURE...but they likely can't and won't take that chance.

by dantesox on Nov 6, 2007 9:15 PM CST up reply actions  

joe must be joking...
joe_capozzi@palm.beach.post:
Then the questions shifted to third baseman Miguel Cabrera, Florida's four-time All Star who through arbitration is expected to receive a one-year contract worth at least $10 million, about one-third of the Marlins' projected payroll.

Beinfest was coy about other teams' interest in Cabrera.

"He's a good player, a really good player,'' Beinfest said with a smile. "We get asked about a lot of our players.

"We are not going to comment on specific players or trade rumors. But he's an awfully good player, that's for sure.'' Several teams are interested in Cabrera, but the Chicago White Sox might engage in the most serious trade discussions. He is close friends with his Venezuelan countryman, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, who was a Marlins coach when Cabrera was a rookie.

The Marlins are shopping Cabrera because of his salary as well as their concerns about his weight and attitude. When the Marlins played an interleague series in Chicago in June, Guillen hosted Cabrera at his home and scolded the slugger about his weight.

The Yankees also are targeting Cabrera, along with Boston's Mike Lowell, as replacements for A-Rod if they don't re-sign him.

As late as October, the Marlins' front office was divided over the possibility of trading Cabrera. If the Marlins did deal him, it would be only for the right compensation.

Beinfest, echoing the sentiment of most teams, said he didn't expect the Marlins to make any trades this week. The GM meetings, which end Thursday, would be used to lay the groundwork for a deal that could fall into place by or at baseball's winter meetings the first week of December in Nashville.

The last time Florida traded a marquee player - Thanksgiving 2005 - they sent Josh Beckett and Lowell to the Red Sox in return for two top prospects: Hanley Ramirez, who won the NL Rookie of the Year Award in 2006, and Anibal Sanchez, who tossed a no-hitter that year. "When you trade really good players, you want really good players in return,'' Beinfest said. "The Red Sox's return was obviously excellent in that deal, as well. All you want is value. Whether you are taking back money or taking back inexpensive players , you want talent value. You want talent for talent."

by The Wizard on Nov 6, 2007 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Oh no....
Pack your bags, Paulie.  Fortunately, we have little young talent the Marlins might want.

Colin, can you transpose a whole flock of turkey drumsticks onto Miggy's bat?

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes. Yes I can.
But we have nothing the Marlins want unless I'm badly mistaken.  IIRC, they don't usually trade for young talent that hasn't reached AA or won't very soon.  Especially not for a guy like Miggy, who is MVP-candidate style good.
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 6, 2007 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

oh
we have stuff they want. it would just be fields, gio, egbert, carter, and danks. maybe throw in DLS, for good measure.

this guy just wanted to get in that anecdote about miggy staying at ozzie's house and getting lectured about his weight.

by larry on Nov 6, 2007 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah but couldn't he singlehandedly make
us a competitor in the central?
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 6, 2007 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Not quite
He'd probably give us 6-8 more wins than whatever we'd otherwise field at 3B next year.

by 3E8 on Nov 6, 2007 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

we'd still need to sign
an LF and a CF, and we'd have to resign Uribe probably.

still, that's pretty close right?

OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 6, 2007 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

sure
but he'd also single-handedly make us a non-competitor after 2009.

by larry on Nov 7, 2007 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It's basically like paying now for A-Rod
or paying in '09, right?  Except a younger version.
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 7, 2007 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup - homer replays.
But (sorry wiz) I have come upon a great revelation - the origin of "grinder".  Swear to Christ.  Let's see if you recognize the genesis:

 1 Remember your Creator
       in the days of your youth,
       before the days of trouble come
       and the years approach when you will say,
       "I find no pleasure in them"-

 2 before the sun and the light
       and the moon and the stars grow dark,
       and the clouds return after the rain;

 3 when the keepers of the house tremble,
       and the strong men stoop,
       when the grinders cease because they are few,
       and those looking through the windows grow dim;

You find wisdom in the strangest places....

OK, bring on the Craigslist chick!  Bathe her and bring her to my tent!  And keep the Valtrex coming!

2010 - the waiting is the hardest part.

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2007 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

Thank you.
OK, bring on the Craigslist chick! Bathe her and bring her to my tent! And keep the Valtrex coming!

by colintj on Nov 6, 2007 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Just for the record...
If Milledge for Contreras is/was on the table from the Mets and the Sox didn't do it...well, I don't even know what to say. That was just be completely incompetent.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 6, 2007 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

cabrera
as I said else where, third base is suddenly a need position for us? Shouldn't we use our trade bait guys for a ss, or outfielder (Carl Crawford) or bull pen help.

by spadog on Nov 7, 2007 5:51 PM CST reply actions  

He is the best young bat in baseball...
Why would you not want to add that kind of offense to your team?  Besides, if you get him on a diet he can play LF.

by SSH2005 on Nov 10, 2007 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

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