CenterField rumors
- Another hilarious movie poster by Jim.
- The 2008 Marcel projections are released: Batting spreadsheet, Pitching spreadsheet.
- Hot Stove: The Brewers DFA'ed and may non-tender reliever Matt Wise. -- Tadahito main competitors: Padres and Rockies. -- Hideki Kuroda main competitors: Mariners, Dodgers, and Diamondbacks.
- Searching for Mr. Clutch.
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kenny lofton!?
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2007 1:30 PM CST 0 recs
Plus, Lofton
by HulkSmash on
Dec 11, 2007 2:57 PM CST
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If we are going to do that...
by SSH2005 on
Dec 11, 2007 2:00 PM CST
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ive been asking
by The Deacon on
Dec 11, 2007 2:03 PM CST
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Based on what it sounds like Fukudome...
And it is looking more and more like Kenny is going to go from signing Torii Hunter to having a mediocre starting CF'er (Jerry Owens, Coco Crisp, Corey Patterson, etc.). If they bowed out on Torii Hunter, they will surely bow out on an unproven player in Fukudome when the bids get up to 5-years, $65 million.
by SSH2005 on Dec 11, 2007 2:00 PM CST 0 recs
Yeah....
The two obvious trade targets are Crisp and Pierre. I would guess that the odds are very strongly in favor of one of Owens/Crisp/Pierre being in CF in 2008. I'm going to go ahead and guess Pierre at this point....
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 2:07 PM CST
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if KW
by The Deacon on
Dec 11, 2007 2:19 PM CST
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Owens/Crisp/Pierre
by ballyb on
Dec 11, 2007 2:23 PM CST
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Never. Never. Never.
by ballyb on
Dec 11, 2007 2:27 PM CST
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Between those three...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 11, 2007 2:28 PM CST
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Personally I would too...
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 2:53 PM CST
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If we sign
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2007 2:02 PM CST 0 recs
SSH
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2007 2:03 PM CST 0 recs
Awesome...
by SSH2005 on
Dec 11, 2007 2:06 PM CST
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Matt Wise is another good reliever...
Matt Wise:
October 6, 2003: Released by the Anaheim Angels.
Derrick Turnbow:
October 14, 2004: Selected off waivers by the Milwaukee Brewers from the Anaheim Angels.
Bobby Jenks:
December 17, 2004: Selected off waivers by the Chicago White Sox from the Anaheim Angels.
What a horrible run of choices by Bill Stoneman.
by SSH2005 on
Dec 11, 2007 2:15 PM CST
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Another good one -- Joel Peralta...
October 7, 2005: Selected off waivers by the Kansas City Royals from the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
by SSH2005 on
Dec 11, 2007 2:17 PM CST
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Legend selling his Philly house
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2007 2:19 PM CST 0 recs
he's upgrading
He'll probably buy more dirt bikes too.... Oh wait...
by Nordhagen on
Dec 11, 2007 2:32 PM CST
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The Nutty Buddy
Oh, boy.
Or boys, as the case may be.
Former big-league pitcher Mark Littell has what might be described as testicular fortitude (for lack of a better term or one that might offend some readers; and if you might be one such potentially offended reader, you might want to stop right here and go to a different item).
Littell, 54, has developed a protective cup.
In a YouTube video [2:23], he has assistants aim a pitching machine to fire baseballs between his legs.
After impact, Littell's dignity -- as well as other things -- are intact.
''Yes, sir, folks,'' he tells the camera. ''The Nutty Buddy: It's mean, it's tough and it's right there for ya, every time.''
''All people have to do is try it,'' Littell says of the product that has the primary advantage, he says, of being anatomically correct.
Littell's company has sold 3,500 through the Internet. He plans to market the product to sports other than baseball and to women.
''They need them, too,'' he said.
Several years ago when he worked for the Kansas City Royals organization, Littell came up with the concept for the Nutty Buddy.
''I asked my pitchers, how many of you guys don't wear cups?'' said Littell, who once was smacked in the groin by a hit (but he said he always wore a cup). ''And half of them raised their hand,'' he said. ''So I went off on a little mild tirade at the time.
''Every 10,000 balls you throw, there will be one that comes right back at you that you can't avoid.''
Meaning you'd be nuts not to protect your ... sensitive area.
Not only does Littell stand behind his product, he stands in front, too.
''Let's get the CEO of every cup company,'' he said. ''You put your cup on, and I'll put my cup on, and we'll see who's left standing.''
I like the youtube link next to the video: send this as a video holiday card!
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2007 2:50 PM CST 0 recs
If we strikeout on Fukudome
by colintj on Dec 11, 2007 3:44 PM CST 0 recs
Why would you just play Owens?
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 4:37 PM CST
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value for what?
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:39 PM CST
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If we're operating under the assumption
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 4:42 PM CST
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he ain't that cheap
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:44 PM CST
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one that isn't getting 400 PA
I really don't understand the opposition to signing Kenny Lofton unless it means not signing someone else. Would you really rather have Crisp and be out a few prospects than Lofton and a platoon partner?
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 7:26 PM CST
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suddenly he's not going to get 400 PAs?
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 8:25 PM CST
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the guy on the other side of the platoon.
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 8:28 PM CST
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well it would make it harder
by Jbasic89 on
Dec 11, 2007 4:46 PM CST
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both owens and lofton
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 3:59 PM CST
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and
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:02 PM CST
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signing him creates a problem
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 4:40 PM CST
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again, why?
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:43 PM CST
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you're not going to.
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 7:39 PM CST
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I'll say it again -- it's time for the Owens era
I have say I'm surprised that Williams apparently won't give out 5/$75M to either Fukudome or Rowand after already committing to Linebrink trading Garland for Cabrera. Owens or Pierre essentially assures the Sox of getting sub .700 OPS out of CF again.
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 4:11 PM CST
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flipping him
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:13 PM CST
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You're right!
So, is $3M and not getting to see Owens in CF worth paying for someone like Ramirez?
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 4:51 PM CST
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it's more than $3M
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:54 PM CST
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Well...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 11, 2007 4:29 PM CST
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Still...
- It cost the Sox a second round pick
- The NTC and probable poor performance will make him hard to move; it'a significant misuse of resources.
- Garland could have brought back at least a B prospect (e.g. someone like Chris Carter)
- The Sox only get picks if they offer Cabrera arbitration -- we'll see if that happens.
Plus, signing ARow or Fukudome would mean Gio for Pierre/Crisp wouldn't happen.
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 5:02 PM CST
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But it would mean...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 11, 2007 5:15 PM CST
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Why the Christ does everyone
Which is why I wanted Ichiro at $20MM/year. Fuku is less proven, coming off elbow tweaking, but I'd be less circumspect re: "age" issues.
I'm going to read my new AARP issue with Caroline Kennedy on the cover. And Prince turns 50 this next year, goddammit. You should all have his energy!
Attica, Attica!
by winningugly on
Dec 11, 2007 8:16 PM CST
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And the Stones, Who and
I'm with you WU
by Brush Back on
Dec 11, 2007 8:41 PM CST
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you just cited
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 8:44 PM CST
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and as for why
- everyone declines at some point. most decline before then. maybe he's an exception. who knows.
- his value at that price is primarily in him being a CF. while i think he could be an adequate CF right now and for the near future, i wouldn't count on it at that age. most/all of the guys who last as CF into their mid to late 30s are speed guys. fukudome isn't a speed guy.
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 8:59 PM CST
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Not every signing can be Buehrle
Look, I don't think signing Fukudome or Rowand is incompatible with building a better team in 2011. There's a few reasons why such a signing wouldn't be so bad:
- Prevents prospects being dealt for Pierre/Crisp
- Signing either has minimal impact on the draft this year (Rowand would lose the Sox a 3rd rounder, I think...) -- better to sign a type A this year than next.
- The Sox need talent, and if they can acquire either of those guys without a NTC and for less than Hunter they should be tradeable the next two years.
- If its not used, is the "Hunter" money available for the draft or next year? If it would be then you might be right. But if that money disappears if not used then I say sign a CF.
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 11, 2007 8:39 PM CST
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I think you guys are underestimating
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 4:39 PM CST
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So what?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 11, 2007 4:44 PM CST
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It means they don't have to play
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 7:29 PM CST
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no
Another player is 26 next year, has 416 ABs with a 61 OPS+.
That 2nd player also plays fantastic D and was once considered a prospect. I don't see why Owens gets the shot over BA. I understand what probably will happen, but it doesn't mean we should just agree to that.
by shaftr on
Dec 11, 2007 4:54 PM CST
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who is "we?"
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 4:57 PM CST
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Well...
What's so hard to understand? BA HAS BLOND CURLY HAIR. And HE DOESN'T FLAGELLATE HIMSELF WITH A BASEBALL BAT WHEN HE STRIKES OUT.
Look, if we're all wishing that Ozzie's personality conflict with BA wouldn't prevent him from playing the best player next year, could you at least throw me a bone and wish for a pony for my daughter? We have a quarter acre, and I think that's enough room for it.
by BridgeportJoe on
Dec 11, 2007 5:00 PM CST
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Joe, you're missing the point
by larry on
Dec 11, 2007 5:04 PM CST
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About four clicks already this week...
And it's true that with his speed on the bases, Jerry does often bait the pitcher into making errors. One could even say that he is the Master Baiter.
by BridgeportJoe on
Dec 11, 2007 5:08 PM CST
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Master Baiter
As for BA, you're preaching to the choir. And never ever forget that he killed a lion with his bare hands. Don't get more manly than that despite Cowley's blatherings.
by Chiburb on
Dec 11, 2007 5:25 PM CST
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Lofton sucks
Mike Cameron is the guy. 2 year contract, still good defensively (prob. about league average now). Likely to do about what Rowand would do. Type B free agent so no draft pick loss. Sign him.
by bhoov on
Dec 11, 2007 6:37 PM CST
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Both PMR and UZR agree
Then again, Rob Mackowiak's 2006 CF rated better than Lofton's according to PMR.
Also: Cameron has been about 4 outs above average for the last two years. I have no idea how that translates to runs or wins.
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 7:53 PM CST
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Rowand to the Giants?
by stevegoz on Dec 11, 2007 4:27 PM CST 0 recs
Twins agree to terms with Craig Monroe...
Monroe made $4.8 million last season. The terms of his new deal have not been released, but the Twins were trying to get Monroe to agree to a pay cut. Had they not reached a deal, they would not have had to send the Cubs a prospect to complete their November trade.
by SSH2005 on Dec 11, 2007 5:03 PM CST 0 recs
wouldn't want to see him leave
by colintj on
Dec 11, 2007 6:49 PM CST
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It's just past 8:00 A.M. in Japan...
by SSH2005 on Dec 11, 2007 5:10 PM CST 0 recs
not me
Because I must show respect for his decision. Respect equal to his respect for the Japanese FA process.
And I want to be there the moment the Jerry Owens Era re-begins.
by Nordhagen on
Dec 11, 2007 6:14 PM CST
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Bobby Petrino has resigned as Falcons coach...
by SSH2005 on Dec 11, 2007 5:25 PM CST 0 recs
He sucked as a pro coach
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Dec 11, 2007 6:34 PM CST
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