Kenny Williams' fishing expedition update
How about signing Orlando Cabrera to an extension Kenny?
- Jim looks on the Alexei Ramirez signing and brings news of Cleveland's latest addition: Andy 'TNT Canoe' Gonzalez.
- Speaking of ex-Sox players, Cliff Politte signed with the Cardinals.
- Grindness rankings. But where is The Legend?
- Can we classify every pitch?
- And Cheat updated the White Sox Pitch Type Data Google spreadsheet with the Xtra Base Hits data for each pitcher.
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at least jerry has a future
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How could you possibly say that?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/owensje01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/owensje01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/owensje01.shtml
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
(Engulfs larry)
by winningugly on Dec 22, 2007 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei Ramírez's contract details...
"Ramírez agrees to four-year, $8M deal with White Sox"
Three months ago, the infielder/outfielder received a monthly salary of $20 as one of the stars of the powerful Cuban national baseball team. His new contract with Chicago has a base salary of $4.75 million.
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
These incentives lead me to believe...
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i'm sure he'll be given the opportunity to compete for a spot but it's pretty ambitious to think that a guy coming from where he was is going to be able to make the jump to the major leagues right away. frankly, the sox would be stupid to put him out there right away and they'd be even stupider to have guaranteed him a spot.
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy went from earning $20 bucks a month...
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
http://www.southsidesox.com/comments/2007/9/19/1542/14563/4#4
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you sure like to play gotcha
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That no one is infallible except for God.
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think the point is that you like being a dick
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's with the personal attack?
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So quoting someone's posts is a personal attack?
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
don't play dumb, you were being
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Way out of line on SSS
by ChicagoPete on Dec 22, 2007 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not.
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Superior?
;)
And. larry, you can't have it both ways, Mr. Photographic (cursed) Memory. If someone brings up a previous post unflattering to you, you can't chalk it up to being "argumentative", since you frequently use other posters' previous words against them to point out inconsistent arguments.
Miggy and Willis, bro. Acknowledge and move on. But acknowledge, or you sound shrill, and it detracts from your obvious credibility.
And, Merry Christmas, all.
by winningugly on Dec 22, 2007 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's fair
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And, truth be told, you
by winningugly on Dec 22, 2007 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
socratic dialogue has a point
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Then why do you (occasionally)
Because it's fun, and anonymous, on this site.
Until you are called out on it.
Just stay consisent. You usually are cogent, accurate, and informative, but sometimes put someone up against the wall, usually desevedly so. If it happens to you, and it's accurate (if not deft) move on without rancor and defensiveness.
OK, I'm done preaching. Back to the holiday spirit.
by winningugly on Dec 22, 2007 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't do what SSH did
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No one called your mama names.
by Raf on Dec 22, 2007 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
stop
by Soulja Boy on Dec 23, 2007 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
new means good right?
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was back when we thought
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What scouting report came out on Alexei Ramírez...
I may have missed it.
by SSH2005 on Dec 22, 2007 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the mlb scouting bureau's for a start
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
btw, man u - newcastle 10.20.96
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i watched
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i see
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and there's the 5th
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ask the toon army about
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah if i hadn't been 11 at the time
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ooh, arsenal won their derby
oh you hear anything about how well the American players are doing.
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i saw, that's why i asked
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Home from finals I take it?
by ChicagoPete on Dec 22, 2007 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I drive back to the burbs every year
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 6:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ManU is currently getting it's
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well since it nearly doubles his
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i see this
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
by palehose67 on Dec 22, 2007 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i definitely agree
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't want any prediction
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on,
by palehose67 on Dec 22, 2007 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well
by larry on Dec 22, 2007 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken.
by palehose67 on Dec 22, 2007 6:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, also, if you assume he's
by colintj on Dec 22, 2007 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if kenny doesn't sign a CFer
by The Wizard on Dec 22, 2007 6:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How does one judge Cuban stats?
by SSH2005 on Dec 23, 2007 8:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gourriel
by hitlesswonder on Dec 23, 2007 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Johan Santana deal expected after New Year...
Cafardo goes on to say that if the Yankees don't add Ian Kennedy to their offer, which supposedly includes Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, and some other minor leaguers, the Red Sox will land Santana. Boston is still offering Coco Crisp, Jon Lester, Justin Masterson and Jed Lowrie.
Source: Boston Globe
by SSH2005 on Dec 23, 2007 10:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Red Sox package is much better
C Mauer
1B Morneau
2B Lowrie/Casilla
SS Everett/Harris/Lowrie
3B Lamb/Harris (platoon)
LF Cuddyer
CF Crisp
RF Young
4th Pridie
- Liriano
- Lester
- Slowey
- Bonser
- Baker
- Liriano
- Lester
- Slowey
- Masterson
- Swarzak
On the other hand, throwing out Liriano and Hughes back to back would be pretty enticing, too.
by colintj on Dec 23, 2007 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers still looking for a third baseman...
Brewers general manager Doug Melvin is still looking for a third baseman so he can move Rookie of the Year Ryan Braun to left field. "There are still some things we can do," Melvin said. "There are a lot of players out there looking for jobs still." Melvin could move Billy Hall to third and acquire a center fielder. Talks on Cardinals third baseman Scott Rolen never materialized, with the likelihood St. Louis did not want to deal Rolen in the division.
I would love to see a trade of Crede, Richar, and a prospect for Rickie Weeks but I don't see it happening. Weeks would make a very nice LEADOFF HITTER!!!
by SSH2005 on Dec 23, 2007 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I saw this post at another Sox board...
- He feels he's 4-for-5 this off-season in terms of acquisitions, with the miss being Hunter. He eyed Scott Linebrink months ago as the guy he wanted to see between MacDougal & Jenks, and as a means to take some of the stress off guys like Thornton & MacDougal.
- An off-season goal of his was to land Carlos Quentin- not a guy like him and who possesses his skills, but actually Carlos Quentin.
- He shored up the SS position with the acquisition of Cabrera.
- Feels the rotation has the confidence to get through 2008 without Garland.
- He said he was disappointed when he lost out on Hunter at the last minute, but knew he had to move on from there.
- He's done getting "major" arms for the bullpen, as Linebrink was the only guy he saw as a good fit for the 'pen, and he admitted that he "paid dearly" for him.
- Landed "that guy you may have heard discussed in the media yesterday" and he has excellent 2B, SS, and CF skills.
- Ramirez will likely play CF, unless he needs to replace Richar as the starting second baseman. He can also fill in at SS when needed.
- He has faith in guys like Anderson, Sweeney, & Owens, but made a play for Hunter because he wants the aforementioned guys to "get a little more seasoning" and not have so much pressure on them.
- He takes one day off an off-season- Christmas.
Is Kenny pretty much saying that Alexei Ramírez will have a roster spot on opening day or am I wrong?
by SSH2005 on Dec 23, 2007 10:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It seems like it
by HulkSmash on Dec 23, 2007 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
danks and mccarthy trade update
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7013
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6912
by larry on Dec 23, 2007 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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