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Game 53: White Sox (25-27) vs. Yankees (24-30) -- Garland vs. DeSalvo

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Jon Garland (R, 3-3, 3.91, 10, 10, 69.0, 26, 22, 1.16) vs. Matt DeSalvo (R, 1-2, 5.40, 5, 4, 21.2, 6, 15, 1.75)  [Throws, W-L, ERA, G, GS, IP, K, BB, WHIP]

Time: 6:05 p.m., TV: WCIU/ESPN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (Live Boxscore; 2006 MLB Gameday; 2007 MLB Gameday)

GO SOX!

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Lineups
Good Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. J Owens, CF          .250    0       0       2
2. T Iguchi, 2B         .231    2       13      5
3. J Thome, DH          .275    7       19      0
4. J Dye, RF            .228    10      29      2
5. A Pierzynski, C      .256    8       20      0
6. P Konerko, 1B        .218    7       26      0
7. R Mackowiak, LF      .233    3       13      3
8. J Uribe, SS          .212    5       21      1
9. J Crede, 3B          .221    4       21      0
Bad Guys: 
        Name             AVG    HR      RBI     SB
1. J Damon, DH          .251    3       18      9
2. D Jeter, SS          .333    4       29      5
3. B Abreu, RF          .244    2       22      8
4. A Rodriguez, 3B      .293    20      47      6
5. J Posada, C          .363    7       37      1
6. H Matsui, LF         .284    5       25      1
7. R Cano, 2B           .265    3       26      1
8. J Phelps, 1B         .281    2       10      0
9. M Cabrera, CF        .248    3       17      3
GO SOX!

by The Wizard on Jun 4, 2007 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

PK hitting 6th??!
Isn't this taking the righty / lefty stuff a little too freakin' seriously??
Ozzieball.com - My White Sox Blog

by Ozzieball on Jun 4, 2007 5:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Or maybe...
it's Ozzie acknowledging that Pierzynski's having the better season than Konerko.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 4, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Homework assignment
Watch the slow-ass bat speed of Abreu. Count the balls he puts into play to the left side of the field, or fouls off to the third base side.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

No kidding
He's been complete and utter crap this year, I guess leaving the NL was rough for him.  If the Sox are thinking Abreu for Dye I hope the snap the hell out of it quick.
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by Ozzieball on Jun 4, 2007 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope
that you don't believe all the crap you read in the paper......

although nothing would surprise me.... i think most fans would agree that if dye is traded i would like it to be for prospects. Not another overpriced guy on the decline. We have enough of those.

by ElDiablo on Jun 4, 2007 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would you really prefer
Dye and his sub .300 OBP?
"If you're in love with the game, you can't turn it on and off like a light. It's something that runs so deep it takes you over." ~Billy Martin

by jscape2000 on Jun 4, 2007 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

no dye.. no abreu
i would rather keep dye and trade him at the deadline for a nice package of prospects

by ElDiablo on Jun 4, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The espn staff is hyping this
as A-rod vs Thome. Wow.......wow how can you even compare the 2?

by ElDiablo on Jun 4, 2007 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I finally get to SEE a Sox game!
Featured on the East Coast, too!  Whoo hoo!  Warts and all.

by winningugly on Jun 4, 2007 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

See above
watching Tim Romijn-Stamos blathering on.

by winningugly on Jun 4, 2007 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Name this Left fielder....
31 of 78 Ba 397 6sb 2 cs obp 466

oh wait he just doubled and then scored.... so his ba is now 405

willie harris coming of age...?

by ElDiablo on Jun 4, 2007 6:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm
bat speed looked ok.
"If you're in love with the game, you can't turn it on and off like a light. It's something that runs so deep it takes you over." ~Billy Martin

by jscape2000 on Jun 4, 2007 6:28 PM CDT reply actions  

is everyone a better hitting coach
than walker..?

oh wait it isn't his fault....

by ElDiablo on Jun 4, 2007 6:43 PM CDT reply actions  

woo-hoo
Konerko successfully managed to get to first without falling on his face!
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by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Crede GIDP's
A-Rod gives one out right back.
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by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Aw crap
second mound visit means here comes the bullpen. DAMMIT!
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by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah
1-pitch double play. Who could have seen that coming?
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by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Over/ Under on...
the amount of innings it takes the security to get rid of the moron with the whistle:

2.5

Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Good Lord...
JD is about as useful as a poopy flavored lolli-pop.

Courtesy of Rip Torn.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

The last time
the Sox had two consecutive hits off a reliever, Truman was in the White House.
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

3 runs won't be enough
This 2 run lead isn't going to hold.

After all, our AAAA bullpen awaits.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

5 might not be enough
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawk learned to play
from the Malcolm X school of baseball...

By Any Means Necessary

Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Gooch owns the Yanks
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

sweet zombie jesus
a run off of a left-handed reliever!

by thatshortkid on Jun 4, 2007 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

be still my beating heart.....
a mult-hit rally off of a reliever.... i'm gettin woozy...

by thatshortkid on Jun 4, 2007 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Britton
Is he the guy who just broke Kobayashi's hotdog record?

This keed, hes fat.

by Gus on Jun 4, 2007 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Hawk and DJ are morons
the reason they appealed by tagging AJ is cuz someone on the Yanks must have thought he missed retouching 2nd base
Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Is someone in the production booth
monitoring SSS? Listening to Hawk's explanation there would lead me to believe so.
Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait,
maybe the feed from the Sox PR machine to the tv booth got crossed with SSS!  Quick - someone test it out and think of something for Hawk to say!
"Looks like the joke's on us, doesn't it?"

by Happy Felsch on Jun 4, 2007 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now batting 9th,
Joe Crede.

I think they kept him up today as a courtesy for his past efforts, if he doesn't wake up next stop Charlotte.  

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow Gooch for the DP
ARod was caught pissing in the wind.

by omnipotent grab on Jun 4, 2007 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

ARod
I didn't see him play much when he was with TX or SEA, but I remember him as a fairly heady player then.  He seems to make an amazing amount of stupid plays with the Yankees - Cubs should trade for him.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

JG
He's humping it now, the starters know that they have to pitch 8 full to have any chance at getting the W.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Instead of the QS
it has to be the SQS

Super Quality Start:
8+ IP giving up 3 or less runs

Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

ohoh, Brett Prinz
Garland must be breaking out in a cold sweat seeing him warm up.  Ozzie probably did it on purpose to scare the shit out of him.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...
maybe should've started Garland in my Fantasy league.

First time I've benched him all year.

Hey, it is still the Yankees.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Paulie!
I think he got the message.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:39 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe Garland monitors SSS too...
... after my complaining about starters getting through the 7th inning.

fortunately, I started Garland in my fantasy this week. Unfortunately, I also started him last week.

by ruffster on Jun 4, 2007 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

fantasy...
league, that is. fantasy league. yikes

by ruffster on Jun 4, 2007 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our starters are SAINTS!
If Big Z was pitching for us he'd be running through that bullpen going Sopranos on em with a baseball bat.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Garland still is...
Despite his bad turn last week, (he admitted he wasn't feeling well) he has outstanding numbers.

His WHIP is near 1.10, last I checked.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buehrle is the popular choice
And is certainly deserving of it, but I think Garland deserves some mention. This game is proof.

Buehrle obviously has better stuff, and can miss some bats, but Garland is really damn good at not giving up the long ball and inducing grounders.

After Garland's great second-half last year, how great would it be if he had a similar second-half this year? He'd be in the AL Cy Young discussions along with Haren, Bonderman, and of course, Johan.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

good move ozzie
letting owens bat against the loogy

by ruffster on Jun 4, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

The Jerry Owens era
lasted as long as the 1000 year Reich.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's Erstad?
Although he acted like he stepped on a land mine, I thought it's just a simple sprained ankle.  Where are you Mr. Stud football/hockey player huh huh?  Cowboy up tough guy.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

a 5 run lead isn't big enough
for ozzie to use a reliever

good ozzie, good good ozzie

Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 9:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Just put fuckuing Bobby in
what the hell is he saving him for, our next save situation in July?

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

a double play
would sure be nice for mr. phelps.

by ruffster on Jun 4, 2007 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Does anyone really care about this season...
anymore?

Our bullpen is trash and even if we start hitting like this more often, we still aren't going anywhere.

by SSH2005 on Jun 4, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Finally
...this bullpen situation is just ridiculous.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

It's like poor Sil...
...in the parking lot of the Bing, fumbling for his gun.

by RoyEgan on Jun 4, 2007 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Ozzie should just drag em all by
the hair and throw them in the closet.  

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked Uncle Junior going to the state psych
hospital, "He'll love it there, he'll get to make a bunch of new friends."

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMFG!!!
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

ROFL...
We are a joke of a team.

by SSH2005 on Jun 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus
When was the last time the White Sox bullpen stranded a runner?
AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Jun 4, 2007 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

more than a few racing pulses
having a hard time slowing down in that clubhouse right now
Sweet Home Sports

by james@lifeinthecell on Jun 4, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Well... a Win is a Win
the old cliche'.

I'll take it.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 4, 2007 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Piece o cake
As long as the starters go eight each night we've got a shot.

by ChicagoPete on Jun 4, 2007 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

anybody else "pucker up"
when uribe double-pumped before throwing to first? i figured the throw was going to be beat when i saw that.

no? it's just me?

by thatshortkid on Jun 4, 2007 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe a one man bullpen is all we need
Have the starters try to go 7 innings always and send in Bobby every time at the beginning of the 8th to finish the game. I mean at least than we might have a chance. Well maybe throw in Boone Loogy too.

by omnipotent grab on Jun 4, 2007 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

MacDougal will come back,
not sure about Aardsma.

AND THIS BULLPEN WILL SETTLE DOWN.

And perform well.

by ballyb on Jun 4, 2007 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

How does...
MacD and Aardsma coming back equate to our bullpen settling down?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 5, 2007 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO, the bullpen problem,
like the Sox hitting problem to some extent, is psychological. They are shell shocked, scared to make a mistake. They get behind in the count on almost every batter.

Thornton looked tentative last night, the last of the crew. Just as that mindset has creeped one by one (not Jenks) into each reliever's psyche, I think one by one it will disappear.

I believe that and I obviously hope that is the case. Only time will tell.

by ballyb on Jun 5, 2007 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

MacD
has never thrown for strikes, has always walked a lot of batters, and is what you might call, sometimes "effectively wild". It's probably got something to do with his mechanics. That's not something you can change overnight.

...

Aardsma, Thornton, Sisco, Massett, these kids are just young, and fairly inexperienced. Whether they have deep down mechanics issues, like MacD probably has, psychological issues, or just plain aren't good, isn't going to be fixed in a jiffy.

These kinds of things are going to take a while to work out.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 5, 2007 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone in our bullpen is wild...
and has been known to walk the world.  They will likely continue to suck this season.  Not that it matters, though.  A team with a bad offense and an awful bullpen is not going to win the Wild Card.

by SSH2005 on Jun 5, 2007 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

AS CRAPPY AS WE'VE PLAYED,
isolate the recent bullpen implosion. In the last 15 days, I can think of 5 games, that with a GOOD bullpen, not necessarily lights out, we should have won (Sat Cubs, 2 in Minn, 2 in Tor). Go earlier in the season and there were several more, but I'm saying in 15 days 5 games won instead of lost. We would be 8 over, tied with the Tigers and 2 1/2 behind the Indians.

I know if my father had....., he'd be my mother.

But I find the above mindboggling, considering how crappy overall we've played.

by ballyb on Jun 4, 2007 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

"Cashman
had followed up the (published report) report by placing a call to counterpart Kenny Williams, but Williams expressed no interest in swapping outfielders."

So that's the way GM's operate. I get it now.

by ballyb on Jun 5, 2007 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox make huge trade
sending Dwayne Pollok to somebody for Tomas Perez.  

Yes, the same glorious Tomas Perez who beat the Sox in his first ever plate appearance back in 1995.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR199505030.shtml

by Bull Pain on Jun 5, 2007 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Actually
this trade was like a week ago.  I wonder why I saw a wire story about it with today's date on it.  D'oh.

by Bull Pain on Jun 5, 2007 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only three runs from the bullpen, eh?
I turned it off when Garland came out (WHY WAS HE PULLED?) because I knew that nothing that happened after that, even with only two outs to get, would make me sleep better at night.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Jun 5, 2007 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...
I don't have a problem pulling Garland in that situation.  He was at 119 pitches, and it's not like this game was hugely important for the Sox.  

And if Thornton and Jenks can't be counted on to hold a 5-run lead through two outs, then whether they won or lost yesterday REALLY didn't matter, as they have much bigger fish to fry.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Jun 5, 2007 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I assumed his pitch count was the reason...
but I had no idea he was that high!  He got through the middle innings so quickly that I figured he was still fresh.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Jun 5, 2007 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

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