Help me understand

by chisox on Aug 13, 2007 9:12 PM CDT Comment 7 comments

Baseball Prospectus Podcast reported that Albert Pujols was put on waivers but quickly with drawn last week. They say it's just procedure and teams do it all the time.
It serves no purpose to put a guy like Albert on waivers. I am absolutely sure St. Louis has no intention of trading him. If I'm the player or the agent I'm saying WHAT THE F#$K! Why would a team put me on waivers if they have no intention of trading me.
There has to be some logic to this right?

Here is the audio link. The rundown is 5 minutes long. The references about waivers is about half way in.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/radio/audio/bpr_070807.mp3
Quicktime needed

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Because

If your list looks of players that you put on waivers in a single day looks something like this:

Paul Konerko
Jermaine Dye
Andy Sisco
AJ Pierzynski
Ryan Sweeney

There's a much better chance of Mr. Sisco slipping through (which would allow him a full year in the minors next year without burning another option) than if it contained only the name Andy Sisco. It's misdirection so that you can make the roster magic happen.

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by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

and if that answer is unacceptable

then they do it just to piss you off.

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by The Cheat on Aug 13, 2007 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are many reasons to do it

one reason is to gauge the value of a player. another is to disguise your true intentions regarding a particular player or players. it would be pretty obvious what a team's intentions are if they just put, say, scott podsednik on waivers at one time. however, if you put paul konerko, mike macdougal, heath phillips, ehren wasserman, toby hall, josh fields, scott podsednik, jerry owens, ryan bukvich, javier vazquez, brian anderson, jermaine dye, paulino reynosos, alex cintron, darin erstad, bobby jenks, ryan sweeney, jon danks, and dewon day on waivers at the same time, it's a heck of a lot harder to figure out which player(s) - if any - a team actually wants to get through.

by larry on Aug 13, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The waiver system is confusing me

Im going to sleep till September. Tell me if Contreras is sent packing.

Brian forever, Jerry Never!!

by omnipotent grab on Aug 13, 2007 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Still no answers

1. You won't know the value of a player until you start negotiating a deal. Once it gets that far the media is going to find out, which opens the Gm up to allot of unwanted scrutiny. Plus if a deal does get done it would most likely include minor leaguers not on the 40 man roster since anyone on the 40 has to be cleared before they can be traded.

Now that I think about it the Sox or anybody for that matter had no shot to getting Tejada off waivers since all the major league players and prospects are on the forty. It would be a nightmare trying to get the player Baltimore would be interested in through waivers. Yuck!

@ Larry

If I want to put a guy on waivers I put a guy on waivers. Why would I want to hide my intention to get rid of Scotty, Darrin or Jose? By not hiding them I'm telling teams "take them if you want them"

To me the waiver wire works best for salary dumps. I think Boston used it perfectly a couple years ago when they put Manny on it unfortunately for them nobody bite. Putting Albert Pujols on waivers on the other hand is not a salary dump and if you want to trade him it would be nearly impossible because of the reason I stated. So why do they do it?

I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell

by chisox on Aug 13, 2007 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

we told you why they do it

i'm sorry that those answers are not satisfactory to you.

by larry on Aug 14, 2007 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you don't undervalue the guys you really wanna

trade says this guy

Scot Gregor:

Typically, major-league teams place their entire 25-man roster through waivers after July 31. Any -- or all -- can be pulled back if a claim is made, and those players cannot be traded for 30 days.

"Let's say there are two or three guys you really want to move,'' the executive said. "If you were to put just their names out on waivers, other teams would know you value them less.

"But if you run the entire roster through waivers, which the vast majority of teams do, you are not sending any kind of message.''

by The Wizard on Aug 15, 2007 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs