Don't stop believin'
My router has been crapping out with increasing regularity, which partially explains my lack of presence here lately. I'll try to add a post in this space tonight (no guarantees). I promise i'll get it fixed this weekend, so that the lack of posts will be entirely a reflection of my apathy towards this sorry excuse for a baseball team.
Use this thread for your morning venting.
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Just 18.5 out of first
by CWSKeith on
Aug 30, 2007 12:06 AM CDT
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You can't count out any team
by hitlesswonder on
Aug 30, 2007 12:13 AM CDT
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I tell you what feisty
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 30, 2007 12:40 AM CDT
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Of course
implies that I had been believin' at some point this season.
by BustedFlush on
Aug 30, 2007 12:12 AM CDT
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I like the website banner...
I guess you just gave up on the hope of getting Walker fired.
by quartz77277 on
Aug 30, 2007 3:11 AM CDT
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All I can say is - 5 fucking hits.
Wright 4.15, Rheinecker 5.95, Francisco 4.61,
Wilson 2.40 and Littleton 3.44.
Haven't looked yet, but I hope Tampa Bay lost. I'm afraid nothing short of DEAD LAST will be enough for real change.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 6:21 AM CDT
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X-rated rant follows loss to Rangers
It gets better:
Seems like Ozzie also wants to take a chain saw to this team, alright!!!!!! I also like the allusion to the negative VORPS (Double-A kids) - Ozzie is becoming a stathead, outstanding! I'm starting to like him more and more, you da man Ozzie!
Full article Guillen rips into Sox
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 7:24 AM CDT
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Yeah, I read that too.
by Shoeless In SC on
Aug 30, 2007 7:54 AM CDT
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I respect Ozzie a little more after this?
Give me a break. He should have called them out earlier. I'm not talking about slumps. I'm talking about FUNDAMENTALS and HUSTLING, bunting and charging balls in the outfield to compensate for a weak arm.
You reap what you sow.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 8:12 AM CDT
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He still manages like a fool
Time to flush the horseshit out of the stables.
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 8:18 AM CDT
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bunting and charging balls
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 8:40 AM CDT
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After the way he managed last night
by hitlesswonder on
Aug 30, 2007 7:57 AM CDT
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Wow - the morning we have a rant area
Georgia has a pretty good group of kids we could field.
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 8:17 AM CDT
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Coop on the WSCR shortly
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 8:19 AM CDT
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"Nice to see everyone accountable"???
Here's some more of his rant.
"You keep failing like that, well, Greg Walker doesn't hit. Ozzie Guillen doesn't hit. Don Cooper isn't pitching. Then have fun."
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 8:31 AM CDT
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Ozzie may be crazy but he ain't stupid
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 8:32 AM CDT
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I was referring to the players
The reality is it is just a complete organizational failure from the top down. There were signs of this (though not this bad), and the organization ignored them. And were they didn't ignore them they took routes that just did not work.
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 9:03 AM CDT
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"Ozzie Guillen doesn't hit."
by asinwreck on
Aug 30, 2007 9:34 AM CDT
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This is what I remember from my childhood
Lots of anguish.
I became a fair weather fan (except pro football which I learned to dislike and the Hawks where I used to STAND at 30+ games a year and now, well enough said).
But the '04 and '05 Sox drew me back. Ugly, just ugly.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 9:02 AM CDT
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Same - though different
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 9:06 AM CDT
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A possible replacement for Podsednik?
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 9:38 AM CDT
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Penthouse wife / girlfriend?
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 9:39 AM CDT
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That's Adam Archuletta of the Bears
by lofistew on
Aug 30, 2007 4:14 PM CDT
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Pods Wife = Lisa Dergan
by jeeves on
Aug 31, 2007 7:36 AM CDT
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Does "Google" mean what I think it does?
by winningugly on
Aug 31, 2007 11:46 AM CDT
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Time for some straightforward talk
I'm not going to berate the Sox for what they've done in the past. They put what they honestly thought would be a competitive team on the field this year, and it just didn't work out they way they envisioned it.
But I think it's time that JR or KW came out and said, "Despite our best efforts, it's become obvious to everyone that the team as currently constructed can't compete. Major changes are needed, and we won't shy away from making tough decisions this winter - even if it means moving popular players. We won't be shy about spending money, but we need to be smarter on how we spend it. We appreciate the support we've gotten from our great fans in the past, and we ask that you continue to support us as we restructure this team. We're going to work hard to bring you another World Series championship."
It's not a total disaster, Sox can build around the pitching. But this entire offense needs to be revamped. How are they going to do that? Huh, good luck.
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 9:53 AM CDT
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I know, but the cat's out of the bag anyway
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 10:08 AM CDT
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God forbid if the Cubs
I promise you - PEOPLE WILL NOT SIT IN THAT PIECE OF CRAP UPPER DECK TO WATCH BAD BASEBALL. The US Cellular will turn into to a morgue.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 10:25 AM CDT
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i saw sell-out after sell-out
by larry on
Aug 30, 2007 10:35 AM CDT
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65% of the upper deck absolutely sucks.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 11:13 AM CDT
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Were you watching the Bulls
by southsider80 on
Aug 30, 2007 1:38 PM CDT
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sell-out
by larry on
Aug 30, 2007 1:57 PM CDT
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This game actually
by southsider80 on
Aug 30, 2007 2:34 PM CDT
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Also,
by southsider80 on
Aug 30, 2007 2:37 PM CDT
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I dunno
Plus you'll get the corporate buyers who got burned not having good seats for the last WS, and had to pay through the nose for scalper prices. They realize it's cheaper just to buy the season tickets so they're guaranteed good playoff tickets.
Watch the games at the Cell this year, the fans are still using their tickets and their still supportive. I'm really surprised that there hasn't been the massive booing like you've had at Wrigley the last few years.
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 10:35 AM CDT
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I agree
On the otherside - if tickets are available at below cost - see ebay - why renew? (Corps are a different client)
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 10:48 AM CDT
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The big hit will be advance ticket sales
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 11:28 AM CDT
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That's why I participate in this blog.
What are the stages? 1. Denial.... Admission.......
Thanks, Pete. Still one of the best lines of the year was your lotion and Kleenix for a Danks start.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 10:10 AM CDT
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Stages of acceptance:
- Denial (We're great!)
- Anger (We suck! I'm never going to a game again!)
- Bargaining (We're only a SS/LF/CF/3B/2B/reliever away)
- Depression (I can't go on - barkeep, pour another one.)
- Acceptance (It's only a game, and I love the Sox no matter how inept.)
KW: Bargaining (constantly)
JR: Acceptance (rubbing his WS ring and counting his gate receipts that are bolstered by 2005's memory)
SSS posters: Anywhere from 2-4. Mostly 2-3. Brush back is 4.
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 10:20 AM CDT
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Very good
That JD extension is what really makes me nervous, that was really a bad, bad move IMO. I don't think KW makes that decision if he waited till September 1.
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 10:25 AM CDT
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I moved on to 5
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 10:29 AM CDT
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Does everyone remember Ozzie tends
By the way, can we pass the effin' hat for Cheat? if rats aren't chewing through his cables his router is bent as badly as Pods' groin. Any Website we can contribute funds to our Main Man?
I mean, for Chrissakes.
PS It is a total disaster. Florida was a laughinstock after they cut payroll after their WS win. Our efforts are worse - we have tried to remain competitive and are STILL horseshit. Tampa Bay horseshit!
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 10:15 AM CDT
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In '05 he berated the team
We've stunk for a long, long time. Well over a year.
Last year it was "if we don't make the payoffs, ho hum, I'll go sit on my boat."
This year it was "we got the talent, we got the talent. They want to win. They want to win." All the while ignoring the BAD BASEBALL. Not losing, but THE BAD BASEBALL that his team was playing.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 10:34 AM CDT
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My point is that Ozzie
Not that we're looking for shades of grey, but he might want to change up on occasion, or it gets old even with championships (see Pat Riley).
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 12:55 PM CDT
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Let's look at the Ozzie Hit List
- The handling of BA.
- The famous Hinske shift.
- The Terrero experiment.
- Righty lefty matchups, in the lineup and the pen.
by southsider80 on
Aug 30, 2007 1:47 PM CDT
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That ball hit the wall...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 30, 2007 1:50 PM CDT
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Forget it, JRE
by Sox Machine on
Aug 30, 2007 2:04 PM CDT
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I was at that ballgame.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 30, 2007 2:09 PM CDT
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BA would have caught it anyway
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 30, 2007 2:22 PM CDT
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I want to play!
by Toonderstrook on
Aug 30, 2007 1:56 PM CDT
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The Pods in the noggin game was an instant classic
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 2:19 PM CDT
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Sheer genius
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 30, 2007 2:23 PM CDT
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That was Cheat's artwork,
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 2:25 PM CDT
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We need to get him some router money
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 30, 2007 2:28 PM CDT
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2nd suggestion for passing a hat for Cheat
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 2:40 PM CDT
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It is...
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 3:26 PM CDT
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Cheat, does SSS have a physical address?
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 3:34 PM CDT
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Are you kidding?
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 4:01 PM CDT
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Time for some straightforward talk
If the player doesn't perform work with them for a while, trade them, send them to the minors, or dump them and rebuild.
Good luck on next season with Ozzie.
by Florida Jim on
Aug 30, 2007 10:17 AM CDT
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Excellent point .
They all have some injuries. DL them and bring up a scrub. Anyone, I'm tired of these guts.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 10:39 AM CDT
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To Florida Jim's post.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 10:39 AM CDT
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Really...
OPS -
Darin Erstad - .664
Andy Gonzalez - .643
Juan Uribe - .630
Danny Richar - .622
Jerry Owens - .585
These are all unacceptable numbers. Absolutely terrible, and there's no way the team can hide these guys. But it's not like they're doing worse than you'd expect them to. When Guillen sees guys popping up and hitting weak grounders, that's the best these guys can do.
I understand Guillen's frustration - nobody likes to lose. But don't blame the players. Blame Ken Williams, who saddled the team with a bunch of garbage and then wondered why they don't win.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 30, 2007 10:44 AM CDT
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Agreed
by BustedFlush on
Aug 30, 2007 11:53 AM CDT
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Agree and disagree.
I don't think it is or has been "the best these guys can do."
FUNDAMENTALS and HUSTLE are lacking.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 12:12 PM CDT
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They're hustling...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Aug 30, 2007 12:13 PM CDT
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As Larry said the other day,
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 12:14 PM CDT
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i agree with jre
by shaftr on
Aug 30, 2007 12:19 PM CDT
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Couldn't agree more
The Sox have about 3 and a half major league hitters (Dye, Thome, Konerko and maybe Pierzynski). The rest are the very definition of "replacement level." (I'm not sold on Fields -- he's got power, but he's also got a lot of holes in his swing. I bet the league will adjust to him eventually.) You can't win when half your everyday lineup consists of the players JRE listed above.
And the cupboard looks pretty bare in the minors as well. I'm afraid the Sox could be bad for the foreseeable future.
by lofistew on
Aug 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT
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4 years of bad
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 5:17 PM CDT
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Coop on WSCR
by Brush Back on
Aug 30, 2007 1:20 PM CDT
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That was a good interview
"Bad is bad, and we're bad." ~Coop
by omnipotent grab on
Aug 30, 2007 2:18 PM CDT
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Greg Walker's Words of Wisdom
by The Wizard on
Aug 30, 2007 1:32 PM CDT
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Just Juan being Juan
I believe only John Rambo has a vocabulary more limited than Greg "Cigar Store Indian" Walker.
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 1:42 PM CDT
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Walk has the lexicon
by southsider80 on
Aug 30, 2007 1:49 PM CDT
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The quicker Juan gets back
He's likely to get involved in some legal mishap again, so perhaps we'll never see him again.
Profundo no mas!
by tailgater on
Aug 30, 2007 2:42 PM CDT
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Has anyone else checked out
It is tough being responsible. Ask our players!
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 2:52 PM CDT
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I just arrived in Michigan,
by ChicagoPete on
Aug 30, 2007 4:46 PM CDT
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Garcia has season-ending shoulder surgery
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 3:09 PM CDT
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OK, KW kicked ass on that one
by winningugly on
Aug 30, 2007 3:20 PM CDT
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At least the Phils got
In the Wells trade, Sirotka never even pitched!
by BustedFlush on
Aug 30, 2007 3:46 PM CDT
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The Red Sox Nation
Each of the 25 Sox players
* Ozzie
* his coaches
* Herm
* the bullpen catcher
* Kenny Williams
* Rick Hahn
* Jerry Reinsdorf
for not laying down in the 4 game series last weekend.
by ballyb on
Aug 30, 2007 4:34 PM CDT
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Seriously...
I mean a guy can only do so much... with the crap he has been given... Joe Torre couldn't make this team a winner, nor Francona, nor Billy Martin... Bobby Cox... etc. This team SUX. Ozzie isn't to blame. The GM who put together this team is to blame.
Managing a ball club is the MOST OVERRATED job in the world. ANYONE can manage a ball club. Seriously... How many wins did Ozzie cost us this year? How many wins did Ozzie brings us this year? I am willing to bet that Ozzie was average. Ozzie isn't our problem... we have a PERSONNEL problem.
by Shoeless In SC on
Aug 31, 2007 3:18 AM CDT
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you can't be serious!
we can't blame ozzie for everything but we can blame him for a lot of things
examples? they're all over SSS...
by The Wizard on
Aug 31, 2007 2:16 PM CDT
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Sure he's made some bogus moves
by Shoeless In SC on
Aug 31, 2007 6:18 PM CDT
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unless you're actively looking to fuck things up
by larry on
Aug 31, 2007 6:40 PM CDT
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exactly
by Shoeless In SC on
Aug 31, 2007 10:12 PM CDT
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