SB Nation is Your MLB Playoff Hub
by The Cheat on Oct 1, 2008 12:11 PM CDT
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Within the last hour, the team here at SB Nation has launched a new site to aggregate all of the latest content from the various playoff clubs. I'm supposed to have a preview up there for its launch, but c'mon, you guys know me, I'm just a tad bit superstitious. And there was no way I was writing a series preview to a series that wasn't officially happening until after 9 PM last night. Anyway, it's your guide to the playoffs, all October long, from your good friends here at SB Nation. So check it out.
Also, we will have gamethreads for each and every game this postseason. As long as the White Sox remain alive, the playoff gamethreads will only appear in the gamethreads section. They won't appear on the front page, however, as I'd like to keep that open to only White Sox related content for right now. But this should give you an outlet for all your Chip Carey and Tim McCarver directed rage. Jeanie Zelasko.
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Will Christopher Michaels be allowed to post there?
What about TAEG? It’d be nice to see an aggregate of “you meant ’09, right?” comments.
Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?
by defensive indifference on Oct 1, 2008 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
christopher michaels picked the twins to win the central
he’s been cut. twinkietown picked him up for the $0.37 waiver fee.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
Also the Tech Team has launched a new presentation for FanPosts
http://www.southsidesox.com/fanposts
The old view — the one I like, as it encourages more thoughtful posts — is still available by clicking full view. I think the new view and functionality was to make more of the college fans, those who’ve grown used to the message board communities of Scout and Rivals, feel more at home. I won’t be using the new view, but it’s an option for you guys to try out
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Ha
I wrote a brief preview for Sports Weekly Monday, and I prefaced it by saying, “I hope this doesn’t end up in the land of Buffalo Bills Super Bowl Champions t-shirts.”
Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine
It's terrible
The THT-mandated title is “Why the White Sox will beat the Rays” or something like that… Terrible. How am I going to write that?
AIM: SouthSideCheat
pretend it's "Why the Twins will beat the Rays"
and just change the twins names to white sox names.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
yeah, nobody will notice at all when he writes about using their knack for small ball and illustrious speed on the basepaths....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
or the playing well in a dome
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
that too, heehee. at least SSS will get a good laugh.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
are you kidding me?
you really think the YOUNG rays will be able to hang with our sox? we may not go to the world series but we WILL beat the rays. We should have swept them at the trop earlier this season, you can start your argument with that.
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for saying what we're all (especially Larry) thinking!
I’ve been waiting for people to finally remember the epic almost sweep at the Trop!
Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?
by defensive indifference on Oct 1, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
if I am not mistaken,
head to head we have a better BA, ERA, RPG, AND RUNS AGAINST. We just got unlucky, blown calls, and bobby blew a save too right? They (rays) will shit their pants and be a .500 team next year.
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 1, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And........
WFT is RUNS SCORED.
Don’t you learn not a fucking ting from this site?
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
Plus we have the conspiracy factor
Remember all the Rays fans freaking out about how the “MLB doesn’t want them in the playoffs” after the “bad” AJ call in game 3 at the cell.
Florida lol
Just givin' you shit
But I really would have said no. Here’s what I told Studes when he asked me after the first Cleveland loss, “I’ll say I’ll do it. Because that’s all I’ll have to do. They’re done.”
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Cheat...
I hope whatever you write is more insightful than the listing of a bunch of stats to prove the obvious, as the Tampa writer did. He basically showed that the Sox don’t walk (sans Thome), swing at bad pitches, and like mashing taters. In-depth!
Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?
by defensive indifference on Oct 1, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
i'm sure the rays fans know all about white sox players. i mean, why wouldn't they? totally useless post for his audience.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
Ya don't say!
I thought it was a very boring and useless piece. I understand who his audience is.
Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?
by defensive indifference on Oct 1, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought it was an excellent introduction.
i would have written basically the same thing. i guess our tastes differ in what people should know about a team. seems like the obvious is where one would usually start considering the obvious is generally the most useful stuff to know.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
one man's view.
White Sox/Rays
Having had to use Danks just to get here leaves the Sox at a disadvantage heading into this series, as the southpaw would have been valuable against a Rays team that is the anti-Brewers: dangerous against righties (.267/.344/.434), tame against lefties (.246/.330/.396). The Sox will get just two starts from lefties in the series, and just one in the first three games.
That’s not the only factor working against the Sox. They’ll play three of the five games on the road, where they were a poor team this season. They’ll have just one day of rest going into the series, having played three elimination games in three days, and the first game begins about 40 hours after their celebration at US Cellular Field on Tuesday night.
It’s hard to know what to expect here. The White Sox rely so heavily on the long ball for their offense that the Rays’ greatest strength, their team defense, is almost a non-factor. The White Sox get less on balls in play than any team in baseball, so a team that is designed to cut down on offense on balls in pay doesn’t affect them much. (A Twins/Rays matchup would have been much more interesting in that regard.) In fact, this entire series may come down to the single factor of White Sox home runs. If they hit enough of them, they might win. If they don’t, they won’t come close. A team that scores nearly half its runs on long balls may be even more reliant on them this week.
The Rays are a middle of the pack team at preventing homers, maybe a bit better than that if you just consider the pitchers they’ll use in this series. It’s not a particular strength or weakness for them, so it’s hard to predict whether they can neutralize this one strength.
Looking at it from the other direction, the Rays were second in the league in walks drawn, the White Sox fourth-best in walks allowed. This is a particular strength of the Sox frontline relievers, who do an excellent job of pounding the strike zone. When the Rays get on base, they will run; first in attempts and steals in the AL. A.J. Pierzynski allowed 96 steals at an 82 percent clip, and Toby Hall was much worse than that, despite two lefties in the rotation—including Mark Buehrle, a running game-stopper the 1985 Bears would envy—and a righty, Javier Vazquez, who holds runners well. The Rays can definitely steal on these catchers.
This may be something of a nondescript series. The White Sox should get good starting pitching and hope to run into a few balls along the way. The Rays need to draw some walks and keep the ball in the park. Look for fairly quick games and low scores. Rays in five.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8145
the sox out-talled their opponent.
I am out of the prediction biz
But I think that is a fine write up and I do agree someone will win in 5. I am very hopeful on the 2nd game in particular. Kaz has not been good at all lately and might definitely give up a few shots.
The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.
yeah, i certainly do not predict 5 game series.
and i think joe’s hitting most of the high points.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
"Mark Buehrle, a running game-stopper the 1985 Bears would envy"
Cute, but 1985 Bears’ defense envied nothing.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
Tampa Bay (area) isn't even a city...
It’s a developer-led landscape of mind numbing sprawl. People who live there are either too stupid to move or ready to check out.
yeah, let's get into some trash talking about the respective cities.
yawn.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
this from the guy who just insulted hundreds of thousands of people in a single post.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
haha
leave it to larry to bring the historic SSSEra of Good Feelings to an abrupt halt.
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
i like how i get blamed for this.
i guess people just read the implied “you’re an asshole” and “go kill yourself now” in my posts.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
I, for one, am bringing a weapon to defend myself.
It’s called “wit”. One I have kept holstered all year, saving it for just such a special occasion.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
(don't forget the tire iron)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So that's why I've never seen your wit before
Now I get it!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
i got your back larry.
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 1, 2008 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They do it to themselves:
But the residents of Tampa and St. Petersburg seldom come together for anything less than the surprising success of the NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers this season.
Otherwise, the cities suffer from sibling rivalry, taking pleasure in the other’s civic failures or run-of-the-mill scandals. How intense is the emotion? When the St. Petersburg City Council announced more than a decade ago that it would build a domed stadium, to entice a major league baseball franchise, and that the stadium would be downtown, perhaps 20 miles from Tampa, the Tampa paper called for a federal investigation of the power-brokers involved.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
"It’s a developer-led landscape of mind numbing sprawl."
psst……. don’t look out the window. and especially not towards the south and east
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
agree. but ocean, mountains, desert and 70-degree Feb. makes up for it...
Plus, you can get rich out here.
"It’s a developer-led landscape of mind numbing sprawl. "
Yeah because this doesn’t exist anywhere else.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I responded to this question in the last post...
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
not in England it's not
get the lot here, you could try justin.tv or tv ants they stream all the games. I can’t be arsed chasing the feeds mind, MLB.TV is so cheap anyway.
marching on together
one benefit of living in england ;)
Postseason Live Blackout: Due to Major League Baseball exclusivities, during the MLB Postseason, all live games will be blacked out in the United States (including the territories of Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands) and Canada. Live Audio of MLB Postseason games is available as part of any MLB.TV subscription or as part of the MLB.com Gameday Audio Package. Each game will be available 45 minutes after the conclusion of the game as an archived game (archived games are blackout free).
oh. I could not tell you were asking specifically for the post-season....just thought you were getting opinions for next season or somethin'....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Pitching schedule?
Any chance it’s not Vazquez, Buehrle, Floyd and Danks in that order? I might consider flipping the last two so that you get two lefties in the first three games, especially if Vazquez wins Game 1 (if he loses then the series will have to go 4 for the Sox to win anyway, so it doesn’t matter if he pitches Game 3 or 4).
Also, if it gets to a Game 5, Buehrle pitches, right?
"my shit doesn't work in the playoffs"
This is an oldie but a goodie from THT in 2004, I’ve bookmarked it for years. So, Billy, What Does Work In the Playoffs?
I’ve never seen this updated for the postseason series since then, so take it with a grain of salt. But based on these parameters the Sox don’t match up too well with TB.
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
Why does the Phillies catcher
stick his right leg out like that when Hamels delivers? it looks very awkward
many thanks
marching on together
he's got the clap
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
nope
don’t even know who catches for the Phils these days. i know that there was a catcher (tony pena?) who used to catch with his inside leg normal but his outside leg laid out straight (which is what it sounds like you’re describing). crouching constantly is pretty uncomfortable, so a lot of catchers have little habits for getting over that.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
which leg is the inside or indeed outside
is this some kind of new fangled left and right?
marching on together
you know that inside and outside pitches depend upon which side the batter is hitting from, right.
apply same logic.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
but logically that would mean he would
stick the left leg out when a left hander came to bat.
but he doesn’t
marching on together
i don't know what ruiz is doing because i'm not watching the game. colin doesn't seem to be watching, either. colin described what pena did.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
but pena didn't always switch, either. it was an idiosyncratic style (and one that pena himself doesn't "teach" to his players).
didn’t realize anyone else did it or anything like it anymore. i dislike the phillies style of play and don’t watch them much. coste always seems to catch when i do watch them. i’ll have to check this out. sounds interesting.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
What hand does he wank with, hoodie?
Maybe he’s saving himself.
And, yes, it makes no sense. Screw you. I just wanted to use the term “wank”.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
he'll be having a wank with both hands
later if Hamels keeps pitching like this, one hit through five and 6 Ks
marching on together
yeah, that's what pena did.
runners on base, regular crouch. i misspoke below because i don’t recall clearly him doing it with runners on base. it wasn’t to throw, it was just to get to his feet more quickly to get to balls and a lower target.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
Douchebag, purveyor of false information.
You might not get out of the airport. Are you already dumbing down to fit in with the local populace?
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
Wearing a pink carnation, hand in pocket,
reading the newspaper. Scratching his nose.
I see why being a spy is so scintillating.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
I'm liking you more each day, hoodie.
Now come clean about the picture! THAT’S A MAN, BABY!
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
hahaha. Just took another gander...
hoodie is a mere 2 comments away from hitting the 1000-mark!!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 1, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
The Britts are very understated.
Italians, however, never shut up. (Am I over 20K yet?)
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
tony pena did that because he thought it allowed him to get to his feet more quickly to throw or reach a bunted ball than being in the typical crouch. he also thought it provided a better target for his pitchers.
i don’t know why ruiz does it. maybe he just mimics a rather good catcher. or he feels the same as pena. or both.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
Manny Sanguillen also did it in the '70's.
And he often threw from that position. Had a cannon. I’d bet Pena aped Sanguillen, and Ruiz is copying Pena.
Just a guess.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
was just going to say that...
but forgot how to spell Sanguillen and was too lazy to look it up.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
Hey Cheat! Did you read what the Great Orange Satan, the owner of SSS, said?
How am I supposed to get any work today knowing the Cubs will be playing this afternoon?
And yes, the White Sox suck. As do the Phillies, Brewers, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Angels. I really dig the Tampa Bay Rays, but I’ll have no problem seeing them crushed if they reach the World Series with the Cubs.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
He's on the Left Coast now, isn't he? Maybe we can sic RoyE on him?
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
Lots of residual stress, TAEG.
WTF is your insightful “Topic of the Day”?
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
probably something about old people staying up too late...
Nyuk.
In two weeks they will win 7 or 8 in a row and you all will have 10 inch boners.
There is very, very little demand for Cubs' tix today.
Jewish holiday, economy, waiting for NLCS?
I’m confused and have a little less money.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
you really need to start telling us about some of your successful bets, bally.
i have a pretty poor impression of you in this regard. give us something where you actually got a bet correct.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
I mean you gotta be a real idiot to lose money on.......
Cubs’ tickets.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
Death. I'll tell you how bad it is.
Cub’s tickets for tonight are cheaper than tickets for Sunday’s Sox game.
Hard to believe.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
I told you
25 years 15 years 1 1/2 yrs ago that I hated the market.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
to you know who.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
Who's going to work up the Photoshop of Manny beating a bear cub?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
A dodgers fan.
I would hope White Sox photo shop artists are more concerned with our own playoff run.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 1, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely...but we're killing time until tomorrow.
Perhaps a photoshop of Javy spearing a stingray is more in order?
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
i'm wondering when the first TB shop artist will do something steve irwin related
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
Hey Gandhi, your shirt is in the mail.
Ought to get there by the weekend. Were it right-side out, for once. Jim needs the pub.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
I was trying to think of the most patient person in recorded history.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
"Were it right-side out, for once"
Fucking awesome! You really are bringing it for the playoffs!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
"Wear". LOL. OK, I suck and cannot type.
You are still a crackhead, however.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
No disagreement on any of those points
OPOS
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
towards a sox player?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
Cy Young. So sayeth Kurkjian.
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by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT
I think...
that home run by Pujols hasn’t landed yet.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 1, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
sox have no chance. see math.
DS% Lg% WS%
Boston
.553 .314 .175
Tampa Bay
.630 .323 .171
Chicago (A)
.370 .139 .054
Los Angeles (A)
.447 .224 .107
Philadelphia
.543 .272 .139
Chicago (N)
.520 .284 .147
Milwaukee
.457 .200 .092
Los Angeles
.480 .245 .116
http://playoffodds.blogspot.com/
the sox out-talled their opponent.
Nessie, Richard, and Fields make the playoff roster
Josh Fields, Clayton Richard and Adam Russell appear to be on the White Sox’s postseason roster, according to the lineup card posted in here.
Mike MacDouigal, Horacio Ramirez and Ehren Wasserman are not listed.
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
I would assume no
Unfortunately the Trib is not saying who is on the roster and who isn’t.
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
Here's the full playoff roster
Gavin Floyd will start the first two games in the bullpen, as manager Ozzie Guillen and the staff are going with Javier Vazquez, Mark Buehrle and then John Danks. Floyd would pitch Game 4 if necessary.
As far as the rest of the 25-man roster it looks like this:
Pitchers
Richard
Thornton
Carrasco
Russell
Linebrink
Jenks
Dotel
Floyd
Buehrle
Vazquez
Danks
Position players on the bench
Fields
Hall
B. Anderson
N. Swisher
J. Owens
Tentative starting lineup
Cabrera
D. Wise
J. Dye
Thome
Konerko
Griffey
Ramirez
Pierzynski
Uribe
Carlos Quentin was scheduled to take more swings off the tee during the workout, but according to manager Ozzie Guillen, is still a long-shot for even the second round.
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
new round, new lineup
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
I'm just happy that it is impossible for HoRam to be called in any situation of any leverage
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
I love the comparison between last nights game and today's at Wrigley
Saying how much more Sox fans were into it compared to these idiot Cubbie Bear fans
you know, they do sell new ones at the auto parts store
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
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