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A look back at the 2008 season and predictions

Here goes. I thought it may be a little fun for each of us to look back at this season and maybe find one post or statement moving into the 08 season that is now silly or was just dead wrong that we made. I think mine is pretty obvious as I was reminded of it by a certain person's tagline for quite some time.

I know how much the site likes to do this anyway so it shouldnt take long for you to do a search on your own name and find a little dirt. Or maybe you were just PERFECT.

At this point I don't care if I was wong about everything... The Sox are in the playoffs and that wasn't suppose to happen for the NEXT DECADE!

I will of course go first. Please join in or you can just laugh at me.......

 

Oh I forgot the Sox will soon envy

Their impressive display of avg 60+ wins. We don't even have to wager. The Rays win 80 games and I will ship you your favorite 6 pack or bottle of reasonable wine.

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Here is a snippet from probably the most hilarious post I made
I am personally going to guarantee that Crede will not have an OPS above .800 at the end of May. Furthermore, I will say that it is highly likely that he does not have an OPS above .700.

Read the Rest

by madvillian on Oct 1, 2008 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Please Kill Me:

Doesn’t every team have a Pablo Ozuna? I don’t understand complaining about him. They play 162 games. Occasionally people who don’t make the All-Star Game have to play.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 18, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up actions 908670234 recs

Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?

by defensive indifference on Oct 1, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

In fairness Cheat

CW said 88 wins was expected to be 3rd place. I’m not sure if KW knew the division was horribly over-rated or if he just rolled the dice and got lucky. I think he had an inkling, and things turned out OK.

by madvillian on Oct 1, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing like a feel good post, eh, tdogg? couldn't go with "A look back at the 2008 season and predictions that you got right?

i’ll probably go with my prediction about the indians. they’re still the best team in the central (mutters something about injuries and luck…)

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 1, 2008 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Hell no Im all about egg on face.

And wanted to see some of the most hilarious arguments and statements made early and prior to this season. There were plenty.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Oct 2, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had forgotten how bad it got until I read

madvillan’s link. Its funny how this team needed every little thing it got from various players at different points of the season. Next offseason should really be special!

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know in ST I said they'd win 72-75 games, though in all fairness

after the Swisher trade said they could go as high as .500.

However, May 9th, I cut my losses. So there. I apologize for nothing. Screw you all.

I also said Alex Gordon was the “breakout AL position player” and Liriano was the “breakout AL pitcher”.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 1, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I was mostly wrong about individual players

Coincidentally, Blackburn was one of my breakout guys.

Otherwise, Chris Young was bad. Cueto and Volquez showed flashes. And Boone Logan, looked great for about 10 weeks.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 1, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

My absolute favorite of the year:

I would sell Rays 89 til my fucking face caved in.
“All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us.”
by ballyb on Feb 14, 2008 2:17 PM EST up actions 0 recs
 
And my second favorite:
 
“Yeah, the Rays look ready to
grow up a bit. Might actually make my Sox pilgrimmage to Tampa interesting this year.
Jeff Cox: I’m going to call you "FN”.
by winningugly on Feb 14, 2008 2:29 PM EST up actions 0 "

I’ll say. Happy Valentine’s Day, WU. The Sox love me.

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 1, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Also, Keith Law can eat me.

Chris D (Capital City): You honestly think the White Sox had the worst offseason? Swisher, Cabrera and Quentin will make a huge impact, and the bullpen should be a lot better.
SportsNation Keith Law: (1:56 PM ET ) The problem is that they don’t get it. They’re not a good team. They have no shot to contend with Detroit or Cleveland. Trying to improve the ‘08 club was the wrong strategy. I didn’t mind the Swisher acquisition, but why are they giving up prospects?

12/12/07- We’ll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Feb 14, 2008 2:36 PM EST actions 0 recs

"I suck... the Sox don’t." reply actions 25 recs
by SSH2005 on Aug 6, 2008 1:08 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 1, 2008 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I generally like Keith Law

And that was pretty much my feelings before the season as well. That said, it sure is nice being pleasantly surprised.

by madvillian on Oct 1, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes!

back when i had nothing to do at work but post on SSS…. i miss those days.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Oct 1, 2008 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

About time you check in, Deac.

How’s the gig?

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've been reading all year

just havent been posting….. i try to read throughout the day, but my work load is ridiculous… which is a good thing because it means im not going anywhere soon. its great to be back in chicago though.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Oct 2, 2008 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree fuck Keith Law and his verifiable Sox hating ways.

He tends to do okay with rookies and early player projections but tends to suck with regular old players from year to year. Neyer can suck it also.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Oct 2, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy season

Expectations were mighty low in the spring, but Imagine what the predictions would have been if you told people in March to assume that:

PK would end up .240/.344/.438/.783 22HR 62RBI
Swish .219 /.332/ .410/.743 24HR 69RBI
OCab .705 OPS, 84 OPS+
Crede misses half the season with injury
Josh Fields a complete bust

Javy, your supposed #1, ends up with a 4.67 ERA
Linebrink out for a third of the season with injury
Contreras out for half the season with injury

Remarkable season, I think Ozzie did an incredible job keeping this thing together. My prediction was certainly way off, but I hedged a few times and said it would all rest on the shoulders of the young guys to make a difference – we went a huge 4 for 4 with Danks, Floyd, Q and Alexei way exceeding expectations.

Some may say the lesson from this season is that a savvy vet roster will have the experience to carry you through. IMO the lesson is that if you’re going to gamble, gamble on young guys exceeding expectations instead.

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

That wasnt exactly fessing up to a "bunch" of stuff you said there buddy.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Oct 2, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i took care of it for him, tdogg.

some people just can’t admit when they’re wrong. ;)

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yes the ole eyeball test

All in good fun Pete, but your eyes suck.

The SSS motto should be the answer to "What is our deepest fear?". Or maybe just Prozac.

by Tdogg on Oct 2, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fess up to what? I predicted 77 wins, same as you probably

If you’re trying to get a mea culpa from everyone, then say so directly.

I said they were old, decrepit and injury prone, and to have any prayer of a decent season the young guys would all have to play out of their minds.

The biggest shocker, to me, is that they did this well without Swisher. He’s coming into his prime, and if anyone would have a breakout for a Q!-like monster season you’d think it’d been him. Instead he had the worst year of his career – and they still overcame that.

btw, my eyes tell me that OCab is an overrated asshole. Give me Uribe any day, he was .020 behind him in OPS and I still say he plays a better SS (definitely has a much better arm) – and costs less than half the money. Plus Ozzie wouldn’t feel the need to waste his 84 OPS+ at the top of the order to placate his enormous ego.

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

very indirect.
I thought it may be a little fun for each of us to look back at this season and maybe find one post or statement moving into the 08 season that is now silly or was just dead wrong that we made.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

god, you're an asshole

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

never said differently.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love you guys.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 2, 2008 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

thome is not clutch.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good memory. Pete's indignancy is TOT.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

pete was drawing ridiculous conclusions based upon like ten games or something.

but, iirc, it wasn’t that thome was “done” (let’s not ssh a more nuanced point), as in, totally useless. it’s that we shouldn’t expect a 150+ OPS anymore. and that’s certainly true. if not particularly insightful or a conclusion one should draw from the charts he linked to.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad my posts from 6 months ago are still branded with a white-hot iron in your memories

Especially WU’s pickled mind

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

we all tend to remember the stupid shit one another say

rather than the insightful stuff.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just remember the pretty charts

and someone getting undies in a bundle when they were critiqued.

Pete, I don’t get white-hot any more, unlike some others, Vesuvius.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice try OPOS

keeping the wit holstered till tomorrow still I see

You’re full of shit and you’re old…Guilty as charged

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your anger management classes are working pretty well so far.

That court-mandated action works sometimes, don’t it?

As far as being FOS, I haven’t checked out for the majority of the season, only to reappear for the last 2:00, like a basketball fan. THAT is FOS, bubba.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

this short ban is a joke, old man.

sick of this bullshit. it’s got me trading SPYs all the damn time.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 2, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hasn't helped much either, has it?

WM/WB both went down, and without the bailout NCC/RF/SOV might’ve been next. The wrong regulatory response.

Should’ve stayed in Naples, kid. You were having a grand time there.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

no worries. this young dog keeps learning new tricks.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 2, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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