The Free Agent Market: Third Base
by colintj on Oct 14, 2008 2:45 PM CDT
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PrintThe conversation we're about to have is one we didn't expect to have going into this winter's free agency. Josh Fields was supposed to be the Southsider's Choice Brew when it came to making potfuls at the hot corner in 2008 let alone the subsequent year. Lest we forget, Cheat went to town on Kenny for not ditching Crede for Fields and rightly so. Crede played about half a season and in between airmailing throws to first put up a .248/.314/.460 line. Chicago 3rd basemen as a whole managed a .266/.324/.444 line and this obviously represents a critical lack of production for the team going into 2009. So Fields is put on the spot here. How well can he do?
Sadly, it doesn't look that great. Josh hit .246/.341/.431 in Charlotte, which translates to a .227/.319/.410 major league equivalent line according to Clay Davenport on the season. This was an injury-laden season for Fields, which brings up further concerns that he may not be durable enough to handle a full MLB season. If you view this season as the baseline for as bad as Fields can be, it's a little more encouraging. For starters, that equivalent line STILL beat out Crede in OBP. And Fields' power should return fully if 2008 was just one of those things. The community projection expected a .258/.330/.490. That's probably closer to his 75th percentile at this point, as this past year eroded some of the faith in his abilities I had and it did nothing to fix the concerns about his ability to hit a major league fastball. So let's check out some charts and graphs and such.
via www.baseballprospectus.com
The graphs suggest that whatever level of production he managed in 2008 would be more or less the one he'd be at from '09 - '12. There's still a good deal of upside to be had here also, so it doesn't look like writing him off is an altogether good idea, but between his poor defense and the obvious hole in his swing I wouldn't blame Kenny for doing so. In any case, it does look like Fields would be able to give us a 5 - 20 run bump on offense. The problem is that he's capable of playing -20 runs below average in the field (for whatever reason his '07 season isn't in the UZR .xls file I dled from Tango, so I don't have a specific number), so if his bat can't play at a near average level, he's a millstone out there. In other words, he loses a lot of value UNLESS he can play at the level we thought he could in '08. Show of hands: how many still think he can?
His known value, regardless of the above, lies in his lefty-mashing skills as a platooning 4C. He CAN step into that role next year and likely succeed in my opinion. So the question then revolves around whether the return in a trade would exceed the value of his known abilities (well, ability. anyway...). My guess is he's still more valuable as a trading asset, particularly in combination with Allen or maybe Richard. Is there an obvious signing out there that would make such a deal moot?
The List (per Cot's)
- Casey Blake
- Hank Blalock*
- Joe Crede
- Morgan Ensberg
- Chipper Jones*
- Corey Koskie
- Greg Norton
* indicates team option on contract
Crede is an obvious no-go and I didn't even know Koskie and Norton were still in baseball. Considering the list on MLB4u, I guess I should feel lucky it was pared this far. Ensberg is decrepit, Chipper and Blalock have decent options on teams that don't have great alternatives and are trying to compete. That leaves Casey Blake and Joe Crede (theoretically) as the only real MLB 3B available on the market and only one that could really work for the Sox.
This will be the first time that Blake, 35, will be a free agent and as you might expect from a player at his age, PECOTA expects him to regress rapidly, with next year as basically his last productive season in the big leagues. His performance this year suggests that you might be able to get two league average years out of him. This side of the argument looks at the fact that he's had his most productive ABs after he turned 30 and says he's a late bloomer whom the gods will kneecap at a later date than you might otherwise expect. This argument also includes that he played 152 games after receiving a green light from Will Carroll's Team Health Reports last spring.
In the very least, you've got a 3B for 2009 that won't be a sinkhole. Solid bat, solid but uninspiring D; a fairly attractive short term option that will make sense depending on the cost. 3 years will be 1 year too many, so Kenny would have to be prepared to eat a year if he went that far. Moreover, there's a serious lack of 3B out there and Ned Colletti no longer has Andy Laroche to decide between. Having to outbid the Dodgers would be a pointless endeavor and with such a bare market, it's tough to see Blake being short on offers. The real conclusion is that the market here is extremely thin and that a non-Fields solution to third is more likely to come via trade.
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*shakes hands vigorously and jumps up and down*
eeeeeeeeee!!!!
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Scott Moore isn't the answer at 3B?!?!
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i never forget a moop
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
now that shit be made up
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
what's wrong with "The Real Scott Moore"
also, he sucks, so it’s not that big a deal.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
wrong thread.
see below for 2B discussion. this is for talking about how sweet it would be if the sox acquired edwin encarnacion.
that fucker isn't clutch. can't ever leave him in the game during pressure situations.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
there is no stat for clutch bunting DUH!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
WHATEV
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
SORRY MUST BE THE STRONG NARCOTICS
I AM ON.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
take Mora's contract off Baltimore's hands in the Roberts deal.....
that should help the Sox bring the cost for a year of Roberts down a tad.
There's not enough middle relievers in the proposed deal
So I think it’s not Ed.
by hitlesswonder on Oct 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
are you positioning yourself to take hahn's job if he ever leaves?
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
thousand points of light!
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I think Baltimore would be happy to add 2 M.L. ready young players
to their rebuilding program. Baltimore is very short on infielders and has no chance to win anything for a few years. Mora is owed $ 9 mil. next year.
Fields and Getz can step in immediately for Roberts and Mora. Give them a big young bat (Allen) and some pitching – Broadway, Logan and another prospect.
Balt. loses $ 17 mil. in salary and loads up on young talent. I think it’s feasible.
Well lets hope Baltimore feels the same way.
Or McPhail just wants to make the Cubs fans sad.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
can roberts play third?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Beltre may be the most realistic trade option
But both Baltimore and Seattle will be demanding far too much for their aging 3Bs.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?
can he play third?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
3B is the biggest concern from a positional player standpoint in '09
if that wasn’t clear.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Damn it.....I've ruined the thread
Let that be a lesson to everyone that they need to watch what they post and when they post. If someone has learned from this tragedy, I feel my complete loss of credibility will not have been in vain.
Beltre an option at all?
Plenty of talk about Mariners needing to shed salary and rebuild.
Will the stock market have a notice effect on any owners that are more heavily leveraged then others?
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT reply actions
do they have a real GM yet?
what dealing there is to do is dependent on that happening first. beltre is a very attractive option, imo.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Not so much for his bat anymore...
He can still be a good hitter, not like he was in LA but still. His defense is what impresses me the most.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
home/away splits
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
still he hit 50 hr's his last year as a dodger.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
he's kind of hit, like, way better than he did in LA.
ignore the silly outlier season that everyone but the mariners knew was an outlier.
thank's larry
no one ever heard of him before that contract season.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
don't tell me you're running for the vacant monsignor's position...
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't get it,
I know what the position is, but I don’t get it.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Six ways to beat incontinence
Potty Training 2.0
Incontinence, a common and often life-altering condition, is rarely discussed, even among friends, as I reported in “A strong pelvic floor is no accident.”
But we don’t have to run wearing dark shorts or give up exercising. Here are several ways to get started building a stronger pelvic floor.
DVDs
“Postnatal Rescue With Erin O’Brien” ($14.99)WHAT IT IS: This 60-minute DVD features three progressions to ease women back into exercise and can be done in 15 minutes a day. Despite the title, it’s not just for the postpartum woman.
WHY I LIKE IT: O’Brien, an L.A.-based personal trainer, teaches women how to do pelvic floor exercises not just while lying down but while squatting, bending or lifting. She also helps women learn to “brace” the muscles of the pelvic floor while doing everyday activities.
“The Total Control Pelvic Pyramid Workout” ($19.95) WHAT IT IS: The hourlong program is broken into four 15-minute modules: pelvic pyramid awareness, mat exercises, standing/wall exercises and Swiss (or balance) ball exercises.
WHY I LIKE IT: Comes with an eight-page educational booklet that covers basic pelvic anatomy, nutrition and the bladder.
BOOKS
“Heal Pelvic Pain”(McGraw Hill, $16.95) by physical therapist Amy Stein .WHAT IT IS: A holistic, non-surgical approach to pelvic health that stresses specific stretching and strengthening exercises, proper nutrition and self-care techniques.
WHY I LIKE IT: Offers a simple, practical exercise program that everyone—not just those suffering from pelvic floor disorders—can and should do at home.
“The Accidental Sisterhood” By Raymond Bologna and Jennifer Heisel Mangano. (Free)WHAT IT IS: A comprehensive guide to pelvic floor health that includes color diagrams and illustrations. Also discusses a wide range of prevention and treatment options, including exercises, nutrition, drug therapy and surgery.
WHY I LIKE IT: The book and its companion exercise DVD are free through November, thanks, in part, to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center. They even cover shipping, as long as you share the information with friends, moms and sisters.
PRODUCTS
The Myself Pelvic Trainer ($89.99, includes device, a year’s worth of vaginal sensors and shipping.) WHAT IT IS: Myself uses biofeedback to help make it easier to perform Kegels. A hand-held monitor tells you when to squeeze the vaginal balloon sensor and when to relax. The display also shows just how hard you’re squeezing. As you get stronger, it tracks your progress by moving you up through three strength levels.
WHY I LIKE IT: Provided a challenge, which made me more likely to do it.
Resistance bands and balls WHAT THEY DO: They help strengthen the abductor and adductor muscles which support the pelvic floor. Simply tie the band around your thighs and pull your legs about while doing a Kegel. Or put a volleyball-sized ball, a rolled-up towel or a pillow between your legs and squeeze for five seconds.
WHY I LIKE THEM: Easy, efficient and can be done while sitting at your desk.
rec'd for making a point and simultaenously offering information to some of our more senior folks who would have been too embarrassed to ask.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, like you've never defecated in your own pants at work
or something.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
cmon wu, your smarting than that. when it happens to me it's because i'm blacked out, not incontinent.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
flagged for noticing the breadth of my condescension.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Flagged for using "incontinence"
and “breadth” in the same thread. Cognitive dissonance-causing MF, you are. Go get a clean pair of shorts.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
still dont get it.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions
well, since everything here is apparently over
my head. This will be my last post. later.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I expect 3b to be filled via trade.
I’ll be surprised if Fields is still with the team next year. You also seem to imply (just my take) that Crede offered little value this year which is dead wrong.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
it'll be a fielding oriented argument i assume?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
calling pete and jre for backup?
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Offensive too
His numbers are severely skewed. His first 3 months of production helped immensely.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
his suck didn't hurt equally?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
No of course not.
Look at the numbers colin.
April 25 games .830 OPS
May 27 games .793 OPS
June 23 games .902 OPS
July 15 games .550 OPS
Aug-Sept 7 games about .500 OPS
that’s equal?
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
he was 28th in VORPr for 3B with more than 50 PA in MLB
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
that's what he did on offense on average per game played.
and that’s what i thought we were talking about.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
this was an argument
without an argument.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
New clown abduction alert issued
October 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM | Comments (0)
A man dressed as a clown attempted to lure children into his vehicle on the South Side last week, police said today.
It comes more than a week after detectives alerted the community to similar reports of attempted abductions in another area of the city.
Police said the man approached the children in his vehicle, described as a white 4-door van or brown pickup truck, and offered them balloons so they would get inside, according to today’s alert. The incidents were reported last Tuesday in 10000 block of South Normal Avenue and Friday in the 8300 block of South Saginaw Avenue.
The notification comes after police alerted the public, in another printed alert on Oct. 7, to a man dressed as a clown approaching children walking to and from school in East Garfield Park, miles away on the West Side.
The man in that alert was dressed in blue or multicolored overalls and has worn a clown mask or white face paint with tear drops on his cheek. He was described as driving a similar vehicle.
people are so uptight. clowns are fun. let your kids get in the clown's van.
Cashing checks and having sex.
you've been touched by clowns, haven't you?
in your bathing suit area.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i cannot even look. i am only scared of two things. and clowns are one of them.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
the other is soap?
HPOS.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
haha. that's right. fuck you, hippie! oh, wait...
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
the movie IT always makes me cringe, but i can't help but tune it. scared the hell out of me as a kid.
Cashing checks and having sex.
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
oh hell no.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
even smiling clownz are bad?
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
ROFL.
I nominate this as the best sub-thread is the history of this site. I can’t stop laughing.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
I swear to God
I would buy that T-shirt, MM.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
i'm beginning to think you're a...
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the cleverness of it.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
And, I swear to Christ,
I can’t stop laughing at MM’s posted pic. “I’ll touch your penis.” Genius.
(OK, stop your Freudian analysis right now. So what if my Mom wantred to be a clown.)
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Averages are often deceptive
Crede is dragged down by 25 games or so of complete suck at the end while he was pretty good (.800 OPS) for 75 games prior to that.
by hitlesswonder on Oct 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
and in aggregate that makes his performance
crappy.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
me being irrationally mad at joe crede?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Cmon your smarting than that Colin....
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
he had a 262 EQA, that's not great
As usual he was slightly below mediocre for a 3B on offense and probably slightly above average defensively.
I just don’t see a reason with the back and the Boras bullshit to fool with him anymore.
I don't want Crede back either.
I agree with all the other bs its not worth it. I merely pointed out that his numbers were severely skewed last year and that his value to the White Sox in the 1st half was needed.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
as awful as Bowden is
we’d totally need to include 3 autographed Jim Thome jerseys
get your shit together madvillian
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
Like the balls used to help pelvic muscles strengthen?
Those would be worth trading for.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
i dont know if kenny would sell so low on fields though
last year he was being offered for miguel cabrera…
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
you can't recoup value that's inexorably lost.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
he was injured...
ever try playing anything being injured?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
so you are campaigning for the position of Monsignor then?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
am I still not allowed to comment on BP?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you say "junior" in italian?
is it “junior” ?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
what?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
does not compute.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I was too young to remember Ventura coming up,
but from what I have heard, he was a butcher at 3b as well. You can work on defense and get better. I actually wouldn’t mind giving him the job. I will live with the shitty defense if he can bang out 30 hr’s on a yearly basis.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If it gets Adrian Beltre
I’d say that’s still good enough. If you disagree maybe he can ask for Ichiro too.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I think that's right
I expect 2B and the outfield filled from within the organization and 3B from outside. I would guess Fields would be a throw-in in that trade.
As for Crede, the glove was OK (was it really better than avg this season?) and he hit well for a long time before hitting not at all for a short time. But his OBP was bad (as usual). Given the importance of OBP (supposed to be more valuable than slugging, right?), even if the Sox can’t replace his power and glove an increase in OBP from 3B might cover that.
by hitlesswonder on Oct 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
is there any chance Crede stays with the sox?
Do the sox take a chance on him if he and his agent are willing to listen? He is not getting a big payday… might as well build his value with us? 1 or 2 years MAX incentive laden…
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
doubtful.
sox didn’t seem to appreciate the boras shenanigans re: his back either this year or last year.
Yep it would take Crede stepping over Boras
And that might not even be enough.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Crede - he gone.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
yea I got the same thing wrong with my back.
If surgery didn’t fix it, he is fucked. Might as well retire as a White Sox right?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
no one said anything about retirement
just that he is no longer our worry/concern
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
He'll play,
and may get surgery one day, but will not appear again in a Sox uni until I see him at fantasy camp in 3-4 years.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
I doubt he will ever be able to play a full season
again.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
he is done man...
that is my point… I would be very surprised if he can make stay healthy enough to make an impact anywhere. He has nerve problems which does not bode well for a professional athlete.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a slight chance he will be able to come back healthy though...
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
judging from the comments from Ozzie, the Boras situation
and his inability to stay healthy, I’d say there is a slim chance if any he comes back.
Yeah I think all the metrics besides fielding % had him pretty high
The throws were still irritating. I liked what Uribe did but I could use Pete’s eyeballs and still see the difference in range.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Actually I'd think a 760 OPS from 3B was about league average in 2008
So basically the Sox need to find someone who can be average or better. Shouldn’t be too hard hopefully.
I’m pretty down on Fields, but I wouldn’t be opposed to having him as the opening day starter.
And again that happened after Crede fell off a cliff
I assume from his injuries.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
It kind of goes to the pure beauty and luck of this past year.
Various folks came on when others were beyond bad at the time.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
Roy Williams was just traded to the cowboys
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 14, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
that's awesome
they now have two roy williamses. bad ass.
maybe they should have tried getting a solid replacement qb instead
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
yeah, those solid replacement qbs are flying all over the nfl at the deadline...
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i know
but it seems like a weird way to try and fix your offense
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
iirc, they are hurtin' at the wr position. brad johnson, and then romo, need helpz.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i have no idea what they gave up for him. and that wasn't what your post was about. you looking to get a piece of the monsignor post as well?
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Just stop talking. FTW.
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 14, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for going too far.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
the fuck did i do?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
We love U-God.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
goon squad!!!
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
did you get those killer rabbits yet
that would kick ass
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
call the pet shops!
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Our (Sox) baseball is over. Verkacht. Verfallen.
Our portfolios are singed. Few on this site are getting laid (except by themselves). Michigan is the joke of the Big Ten. (OK, that one makes me feel better.)
Do not personalize, ctj. I appreciate your research and effort. Now start paying some effin’ taxes!!!
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
i see wisconsin as more of a disappointment
did anyone really think michigan would be that good this year (granted none of us thought they’d be this bad)? wisconsin should have been better
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
i'm with you there.
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you just post something above about ceasing football talk?
Liar. LLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
this is college football
i know more about it than the nfl.
so my moratorium doesn’t extend to this
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
curtis painter for da heisman dudes
the heisman of suckitude
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
Agreed.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
I didn't have time to read through all these comments
but I’ve been thinking about our 3b position and I think I have the best answer. He’s a soon to be free agent, that many of you may be familiar with.
What do you say we sign a slick fielding, power hitting 3b by the name of…. Joe Crede?
Ducks
flagged
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
When do trades start happening?
is it as soon as the WS is over? Is there some kind of forbidden time window where you can’t sign players, like what they have in football.
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There's no actual rule, I don't believe...
but teams don’t make moves during the playoffs. MLB doesn’t want any distractions.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 14, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
flagged for posting comments that provide insight
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
I guess that's why the Rodriguez deal
made such a stink last year, didn’t stop it happening though
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Sometimes...
Stuff like that has to happen. I’m too lazy to look it up, but I think the Yankees were coming up on some sort of contractual deadline to decide what to do with Rodriguez (like the Cubs picking up the Harden option last week).
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 14, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
im pretty sure the tigers got renteria the day after the world series
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
what the hell are you talking about hoodie
we already signed CC, traded paulie for the entire angels team, time machined griffey to the 90s and traded him for dan uggla (of course time machining him back to normal general soreness before the trade is finalized)…and have won the world series of 2009 beating the royals in the lcs…yes the royals….oh how slow news travels
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
fuck, I'm way off the pace
but I’ve got some Chilli peppers stuffed with soft cheese and some Cannoli, and a bottle of cold Pilsner Urquell so I’ll have to deal with it in my own way
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by the way
the lions somehow rebounded and won the super bowl too, beating the jags 20-13…and the bulls made it to the nba finals beating the celtics in teh conference championship and dominating the suns in the finals
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
the look on walter's face always kills me
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
fucking 8 year-olds, dude.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought the twins won the 09, 10, and 12 world series' already
with us winning in ‘11 after reaquiring griffey and once again time machining him back to mid 90’s form…
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
stuff generally begins after the world series.
trades could happen now, i guess, but it just isn’t done. free agent filing period is 15 days after the end of the world series. the winter meetings are dec 8-11 and lots of stuff happens right around then and after, just because you’ve gotten the important people together. mid november to mid december is when the main activity occurs.
Yes, but
His stats are as good as Fields — that’s the sad thing
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
beat me too it
thought about it and got lazy, figured i could change it later
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
flagged for being guilty of the number one complaint about attorneys by clients.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
being gay?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Oct 14, 2008 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
precisely, my dear watson.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
ok thanks
in english football, you will see teams like Arsenal do all their deals for the next season within days of the season ending. but then it’s a strictly cash business, MLB off season trading is so complex, it’s taking me a long time to get my head round.
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sorry I didn't explain myself too well
what I am saying is, if you want to do a deal, do it as soon as you can, never mind the Winter meetings, the early bird and all that. I’m sure there are caveats, that’s what I’m asking.
many thanks
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A little off topic.....
Keith Law had a pretty positive scouting report on Poreda…very good fastball….great sink on two-seamer, with late life and 93-96 with four-seamer……threw one great slider…..others “fringe-average,”……somewhat miffed he wasn’t throwing more sliders, though…..prevailing thought being that’s what he’s there to work on….overall, positive feel.
the twins' centerfielder?
"i bowl. drive around. the occasional acid flashback."
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I guess it still might.
He didn’t mention anything about delivery/mechanics, but, knowing Law, there must not have been an issue or he’d have mentioned it.
Another off topic thought....
who is Kenny focusing on to bring in here “under the radar,” ala Q. An infielder. How ’bout Hu from LA?
You're likely right.
But, I do wonder what the Dodgers intend to do with him….I mean, if they sign Furcal, do they make him a second baseman and return DeWitt to third?
his bat's going to float away.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
right I'm going to ask one of those cross cultural OT questions
that annoy you all so much. I got measured up for a new suit today, I bought the cloth myself from a local mill, when it’s ready it will have cost me the thick end of £450 that’s about $800.
my question is how much would a similar suit cost over there? I don’t mind you factoring in the extra cloth costs.
regards
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Who are you trying to impress?
$300-500 suits suit me just fine.
Now, MM with his Armani shit, well that goes for $1500-2000.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
the combover
that’s what i want to know the cost of.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Especially the inseam, and fitting that extra room for the "what side do you dress, sir?" issue.
Very important to let Uncle Charlie have his room.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Tampa
this team are setting the standards at the moment, only going to get better next couple of years. Could have a little dynasty going.
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It was just CGI
That doesn’t actually happen in baseball.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
if it happens
and the yankees and red sox do as they’ve done, i wonder if we’ll see any talk of playoff/division re-alignments. currently baseball has the lowest playoff teams/conference in all of the major American sports. personally, i think the current structure provides some of the impetus for the imbalanced scheduling that i think is a terrible idea.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I don't understand what you are saying
‘currently baseball has the lowest playoff teams/conference in all of the major American sports’ what does this mean?
many thanks
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NFL 12 teams make the playoffs.
NHL and NBA 16 teams make the playoffs.
In baseball; only 8 do total, and two of the most watched teams play in the same division, meaning with the Rays, it’s quite probable at least one of the two biggest draws in the sport will not be in the playoffs under the curent system.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention
One division have 4 teams, and another having 6 is ridiculous. It’s the only major sport in America to have such an inbalance in regards to how teams are separated.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
i've spent a lot of time arguing that point
but you have to have it that way or else you have interleague ball everyday. each league can’t have 15 teams. the only way to fix that problem is to add 2 more teams, which we really don’t need.
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
i don't think it'd be that hard
4 divisions instead of 6, division winners get a bye and you can pick out the other 4 anyway you’d like.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I’d rather have the 3 Divisions; I don’t see why you can’t have interleague on a regular basis along with off days rotated to make the schedule work.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn't add any teams
7/7/8/8
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Ehh...
the one thing I like about baseball is that if you make it to the playoffs, (for the most part) you really earned it. There are exceptions to this rule, no doubt, but I like things how they are*. I’m also not sure the bye would work — you’d have a team basically getting a week-and-a-half off. Plus, how would the second round work with three teams per league (or am I misreading what you typed?)
*I am in agreement, however, that the three division set-up kind of sucks. I’d be perfectly fine with four divisions — two division winners and two wild-cards per league. That’s not perfect, but it makes things a little better…
just call up the iowa cubs and put them in the nl central
and then call up the rancho cucamugna quakes and put them in the al west
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
ok, I get it
in a nutshell, Tampa are right royally fucking up the established order of things.
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they might
the Yankees could drop the ball on on their lonesome. They were pretty clearly a tier below the Sawx and Rays this year. But if we continue to see crappy squads make it at the expense of Boston or New York, that media cry could get pretty boisterous, not to mention the financial incentive.
the serious downside is the extra week’s worth of games. there’s been some speculation (i tend to buy in) that making the world series is exhaustive to the pitching staff and may be responsible for declining performance in the following year.
if you weight both of these factors, we may end up seeing the regular season cut back to 154 with an extra week of playoffs. that would probably be a boon to everyone in baseball.
/hugely speculative blather
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Nope.
No further dilution, especially in a lousy business environment. I think it would be a terrible idea after a 162 game season to stretch it out even longer. I can’t believe they’d try and compete even deeper into the football/basketball/hockey (snicker) seasons.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
that's why the final bit said
“if you weight both of these factors, we may end up seeing the regular season cut back to 154 with an extra week of playoffs. that would probably be a boon to everyone in baseball.”
the amount of total time taken is the same, but more teams and more games in the playoffs. that would be a monetary boon to every team.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Guys will be toast, not just at the end of the season,
but next. I don’t ever see a reduction of regular season games to get more playoff games in.
I did see the “speculative blather” piece and agree wholeheartedly.
;)
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
why would they be toast?
and why don’t you see that happening?
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Losing revenue makes people sad.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
I think we have Jerry Maguire on line tonight.
“Fewer clients. LESS money.”
“Jerry, you’re fired.”
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Look at the concern folks have for Danks' arm for next year.
Look at the BoSox’ pitching, and the Dodgers’. Folks be weary. Also, think of increased international travel, as Selig wants to do the NBA/NFL breaking in of foreign markets (witness the BoSox’ Tokyo season opening, and the subsequent bitching/buying off for $40K extra per player).
Plus, when has any sport – any – contracted a schedule? Even contracting teams threw most folks into a tizzy. That’s why I don’t see it.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
American sports subdivide themselves thusly:
League—>Conference—>Division
baseball uses different notation primarily because the National and American Leagues were in fact separate leagues and never dropped the nomenclature even after they merged. In any case, in the NBA 8 teams per conference make it, in the NHL 8 teams per make it and in the NFL 6 per make it. In baseball, 4 do. Subsequently there’s one round fewer in the playoffs, which makes it easier for any one team to make it to the World Series.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
and this
i think the current structure provides some of the impetus for the imbalanced scheduling that i think is a terrible idea.
are you saying that the status quo is terrible or changing things so the Yankees make the playoffs every year is terrible.
sorry it’s either your english else I’ve got a spastic brain tonight, most likely the latter
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like GiT says
between interleague play and the imbalance of teams per division, it makes teams even in the same division play different schedules. that’s not right for competition’s sake.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
but my english made reference to a number of things without defining them
so that wasn’t that helpful i imagine.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I get the impression that the guys doing
the commentary on MLB.TV aren’t that happy about the Rays hitting all these home runs all over the place.
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who's calling it?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
on tbs, chip caray is rooting for boston for some reason.
buck martinez i’m cool with.
brian anderson would've caught that...
he's got a weird ass voice though.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i like him because
i hear him on xm from 5-8 am. i think he has a pretty good sense of humor. i haven’t paid much attention to his game analysisisis.
brian anderson would've caught that...
I've found it
Announcers: Caray (play-by-play), Darling (analyst), Martinez (analyst) and Sager (reporter)
the guy with the syrup is Sager
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SWUNG ONNNNNNNNNNN, BELTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that’s chip caray when boston homered.
on tampa’s 3 homers, not so much.
brian anderson would've caught that...
The Mind of Chip Caray.
That book is a short read. Plus, Chipper has usually announced for Sunday’s TBS games, which here on the East coast usually include the Mighty BoSux. Might be a case of familiarity.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
nah, i don't think it has to do with familiarity.
i think it has to do with douchebaggery.
brian anderson would've caught that...
hope it's not this guy
jesus look at the syrup, his mother must be long dead or mad to let him wear that fucking thing.
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in America, it's okay to look fucking weird
as long as you’re old.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
He's known for his ridiculous suits.
He know’s they look ugly; gets a lot worse than bright blue.
by Grinder in Training on Oct 14, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
these announcers are bollocks
since the game started I’ve been treated to the following gems:-
’ you need good pitching to do well in the Post Season ’
’ physical strength helps you to hit home runs ’
’ the Rays are a very young team ’
’ stealing bases helps you to get runners into scoring position ’
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it turns out that scoring more than the other team after 27 outs
means you win.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
It is crap though
I don’t need these guys to tell me that Pedroia has had a ‘great season’ or that Youkilis can ’ carry this Boston team’. What I would like to hear is some sort of discourse as to why the Rays are outplaying Boston at the moment and what they should be doing to compete in the later stages of the game.
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I've just heard the following
‘so many of these Rays have contributed this season’
no shit
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Welcome to the idiocy that is American Sportscasting
pandering to the lowest common denominator, it’s been all the rage over here for the last twenty years, maybe longer.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
what's with holding the runner close at second?
is that allowed?
brian anderson would've caught that...
best tuesday in a long time. a beer to whoever can guess why? and no, it's not because i found out i have two refills left on my ointment.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
no, hoodie. but good guess.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
whattabout a wank?
regards
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as the price hasn't gone up, i'll see you in 15.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
because buckley resigned from the national review after endorsing obama?
i’ll flag myself for that.
brian anderson would've caught that...
thank you.
as an aside, i am happy enough to apologize for being a shithead to all of you at one time or another.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That was last week.
If he is apologizing he’s working step 5 in AA.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
what if i'm apologizing and drinking at the same time?
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You're now a priest?
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah, i'll help an opos out too....that was pretty funny and we all know how i feel about religion...soooooooo
when i say green, go GREEN!
GREEEEN!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I am HUGE on the West Coast.
Other areas of the country – not so much.
Dammit, I need to move.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
my best pal is jewish
dirty little fucker goes through more prossies than the Merchant navy
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Who died via the electric hair at your hand?
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
*chair*, though the other spelling was better.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
yahoo serious had electric hair. who else? einstein?
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Prof. Irwin Corey, DB.
Don’t forget your history.
So, are you going to keep us in suspense? Why is This Tuesday so effin’ great?
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
look at his new avatar!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
they finally got that witch casey anthony!
i knew you religiously watched nancy grace, just like me.
i did not know that. but now the day is even better, as if that's even possible.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
because giovanni trapattoni tapped darron gibson to make his full international debut for ireland against cyprus tomorrow?
brian anderson would've caught that...
i have a guess or two.....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
warmer...
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
that might be my three night consumption in virginia in march...hint hint.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
you sick fuck.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I know hippies. I've hated them all my life. I've kept this town free of hippies on my own since I was five and a half. But I can't contain them on my own anymore. We have to do something, fast!
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Oct 15, 2008 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions
what the fuck do these people not understand when i say "look at his new avatar?"
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
b/c people here don't listen to phish
they’re playing hampton?
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
march 7-9, 2009...
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
lottery ended last thursday. e-mails re: lottery success or failure went out yesterday.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I take it you were a success
congrats, may have to hit up stubhub for this one
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
march 6-8, not 7-9...and hey, ticketmaster saturday morning for what's not gone already.
let me know if you get lucky and we’ll plan a hampton meet up.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
sounds good
had to cancel the madison trip, so trying to make up for it with another trip next semester
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
if i were you i'd try go enlist a couple of other people and assign everyone a night to try for...
seems like that’s the only way it will work on ticketmaster. maybe the secondhand market will slow down a bit, but right now people listing tix for $750 for one night.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
is this going to be the first show since getting back together?
missed out on MSG on NYE last time
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
1663 days by the time march 6 rolls around...
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
stubhub? ticketmaster? $750/ticket?
filthy hippies got filthy rich.
how many gooballs would i have to make to trade for a ticket on the inevitable shakedown street? now THAT is a recession-proof market.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Oct 15, 2008 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
well, i doubt any money changed hands yet. tickets from the lottery wont be mailed until week of feb. 9.
but yeah, recession-proof market indeed.
the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Grab some estrogen, woman.
Calm down. What’s your investment here?
I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
gold.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you basking in the afterglow of your ticket success?
Having a cigarette and a towel this AM?
BILLY BREATHES!!!!!! WASTE!!!! I CAN DIG IT!!!!!
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
i am basking. and drinking lots of water to fend off the throbbing in my head.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
and you can dig! see you in virginia, opos.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
hehehe. no investment!
I just gave a huge revealing hint, that everyone ignored.
Just sayin’…..I know I am a woman and not to be listened to, nor taken seriously….but………………but…………………..
….also, the estrogen is on a slow drip as we speak.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
because atletico madrid have been banned from their home ground for their next 2 champions league matches?
brian anderson would've caught that...
I am developing a serious young-man crush on BJ Upton.
He just might be blossoming before the nation’s eyes.
They are crushing the Sox. Crushing.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
So is my left eye.
(He did almost get picked off first earlier.)
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
See, Longoria is not clutch.
3 HR, 5 RBI’s. Too many solo shots. I hate that.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
you mean future veteran's committee selection matt stairs.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a Canuck. I don't think so.
Is Fergie Jenkins the only Canadian in the HOF? (I truly have no idea.)
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
don't forget gretzky.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
so the twins are kinda like the hotel in the shining?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Canadian Jesus was born in 1884
in a gold mine in the Yukon.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Canadian Jesus was known for changing bacon into Canadian Bacon at a wedding
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
15 years ago.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
See, WTF is a bases-loaded walk from your big guy?
Unclutch.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
That was a nice piece of hitting by Crawford.
Is this game being played at Wrigley Field? So quiet…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
this makes me chuckle.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Rays can't score from 2nd on a hit, either. DFA Longoria.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
so he shouldn't be playing against lefties either, huh?
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
There's your White Sox 3B solution for next year then...
by hitlesswonder on Oct 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
instant classic.
"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"
by Toonderstrook on Oct 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree with Maddon - "horseshit".
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Well
I hate you guys and you hate me but at least nobody on this chat board is seriously suggesting that the sox sign nick fucking punto like on the CBS one.
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I am tearing up
with this expression of emotion by you, K-Wo. Were you watching Dr. Phil earlier today?
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
Same thing.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
not so!
dr. phil is oprah, in drag.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Oct 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
it does seem to have
“obvious move” written all over it.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i don't think he'd play well for me.
too many canadian jokes. they’re mentally soft, lack discipline and can’t handle that sort of stuff. he’d probably have hanged himself by may.
i would actually be all for that if we didn't have to give much up for him
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
stephen king brings a fucking book to the game. and actually reads it.
what a motherfucking douchebag.
by larry on Oct 14, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
He's a high profile fan. Need more of 'em.
Probably his own book, too. Reading it for the exposure. Fuckstick.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
you're on a roll, OPOS!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
Pain is a great mental clarifier.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
it would have to be a good fucking horror story
to beat the one that’s unfolding on the field
marching on together
he was thinking about how much joy
he would be bringing into chip caray’s life.
brian anderson would've caught that...
Poor national media
Please Rays, don’t shit the bed like Sabathia and Carmona did last year.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
Not much of a chance of that.
Joe Maddon >>>> Eric Wedgie.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder about....
contacting STL about David Freese?
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