Clayton Richard Uses Long Off-Season to Locate First Base

I'm gonna have to kidnap Henry Paulson to come up with the cash to pay Colin for all the comments on his last entry

Don’t have time to write tonight, so here’s another thread for you to muddy up.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 14, 2008 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

all is good

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 14, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ze mr Clayton

is one eager monkey

by LT_sox_fan on Oct 14, 2008 10:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

not sox related but does anyone remember

what the giants said it would take to get cain. im not saying the sox should pursue him or anything im just trying to remember what they were asking for.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 14, 2008 11:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

a lot

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 14, 2008 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

omgz Jake Peavy might be on the market OMG!

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/10/13/sports/padres/zbfde541040a37bc8882574e20005978d.txt

I’ll start off with the realistic trade proposals:

Broadway, Getz, Fields, Crede and Horacio Ramirez for Peavy. And Charlie Haeger, too — the Padres are actually going to give him back to us just so we can trade him for something.

by CWSKeith on Oct 15, 2008 12:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

looks like i'm not the only one who got a dime bag.

"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rogowski/Cunningham/Carter

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 15, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll see your baseless speculation and raise you a Trade Peavy column which contains the word "Chicago"

Sure, Jake Peavy would consider a move to Chicago

Among the cities Axelrod mentioned were Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles and St. Louis.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 15, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

does anybody know how many years they take into account

when gathering stats determining a type a or b free agent

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

twosies.

"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

anyone know where to find a defensive analysis on alexei ramirez this year?

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 12:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

flagged for inability to use the intertubes

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 15, 2008 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

please help me out im trying to explain

to my friend why alexei isn’t a good fielder.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

answers

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

check out General Soreness' CF rating

we may have been chasing something of a ghost…but i’ll want to see more numbers.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 1:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was +1 in CF for plus-minus

And I honestly believe that number is meaningless, too.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Oct 15, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's gotten a few favorable ratings now

we may have to revise our feelings on the matter

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm gonna go ahead and say we don't have to do that.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No pictures of crabs but this pretty much qualifies.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_10699843

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by The Cheat on Oct 15, 2008 12:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Toonder?

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love how it mentions that lobsters in the San Diego area don't have pincers

I think that was thrown in there to keep this from going on some “dumbest criminals” list.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or "most intelligent masochists" list.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

are they trying to say griffey may be back next year?

Keeping the roster basically intact means a healthy Carlos Quentin returns to left and a rejuvenated Nick Swisher returns to center — unless the White Sox can work out a deal with Ken Griffey Jr.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 2:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

to play center haha

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sox have a $16M option for him to play in 2009

on top of the fact he just arthoscopic knee surgery yesterday

would be dumb to pick him up

by The Scoper on Oct 15, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tango called him the very definition of replacement

so I friggin hope not.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's back - who wants to buy my tickets

I can’t stand another game with that HOF out there

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 15, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*If he's back....

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 15, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did anyone read the rosenthal article

where he kinda says the red sox will never win again for being too white?

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 9:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

WU fanshot

by 3E8 on Oct 15, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As funny / ridiculous / sad as it is

That Clayton Richard had such trouble with finding firstbase, it’s nice to see when a player actually takes the initiative and tries to improve at the things he needs to on his own. Good for him and us.

by Grinder in Training on Oct 15, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

larry's preliminary offseason plan

acquisitions and disposals.

goodbye: griffey, wise, h. ramirez, cabrera, macdougal, carrasco.

hello: rocco baldelli, mark grudzielanek.

time to step up

josh fields: 3B is yours. fight off uribe.

chris getz: 2B is yours. fight off grudzielanek.

clayton richard: 5th starter is yours.

Lineup

LF Quentin
CF Baldelli
RF Dye
3B Fields
SS Ramirez
2B Getz
1B Konerko
C Pierzynski
DH Thome

Bench

OF Anderson
IF/OF Swisher (“platooning” in all outfield spots and 1B – basically 4-5 starts a week, at least, to begin season).
IF Uribe
IF Grudzielanek
C Hall

Rotation

Buehrle
Danks
Floyd
Vazquez
Richard

Bullpen

Jenks
Thornton
Dotel
Linebrink
Russell
Joseph Torres

Summary

while i think the sox would need to significantly improve their roster to compete in 2009, that will be a difficult task given the contract situations. you really have to hope (again) that the young guys in richard, getz, and fields take steps forward and the old guys stay relatively healthy and productive. for all of you screaming “how can you not start swisher?” well, he was horseshit last season. frankly, however much i like him and think he’ll do fine in the long run, he doesn’t really deserve to, especially considering his second half non-bad luck induced suckitude. i think he’ll need to play his way back into favor with ozzie. of course, i also think there will be plenty of playing time for him to get with thome, konerko, dye, baldelli, etc. rest will be required for them, between what i view as some inevitable stints on the shelf.

i’d like to shop dye but i’m not sure what the market looks like for him. target would stopgap infield help.

baldelli should be signed to an incentive laden 2-year guaranteed deal valued initially at approximately $7-9M. incentives largely tied to games played/plate appearances. 1 or 2 option years vest automatically with plate appearance targets (similar to thome but, since he’s going into a platoon situation at least initially under my plan, targets should be lower – let’s say 550 in one year or 900 over two years) . any contract with baldelli would probably be a very creative one so these are, again, preliminary thoughts on a structure and dollar amounts. obviously, a team would be very inclined to lower the guaranteed value in exchange for higher incentive value. not sure what rocco would think of that.

i don’t think the sox will have a great deal to spend in the FA market, thus the purchases are relatively cheap. i’m sure KW will try to make a trade or three (dye predominantly and/or to acquire an outfielder or 3B or 2B). but i’m having trouble seeing matches and i’m reticent to trade anything the sox have in the minors. like the sox really have anything in the minors to trade that would bring anything back. har har.

and, yes, that’s a six man bullpen. deal with it, ozzie.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs

rec'd. this should be green fanpost material.

"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can live with that except

I think Fields is traded and the 3b is filled. I think they will have a little more cash then we think but not over the top (whatever that means). Either way the playoff apperance does buy again some good will and the Sox can expect 2.6-2.8 million next year. The other route might be the trade for a starting pitcher to shore up a potent starting rotation.

The one draw back to Fields is I really believe the Sox will be serious about an improved defense next year.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Further clarify

Highly doubtful the Sox go with Getz AND Fields.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so stick in grudzielanek. that's what he's there for.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, except change the "will be serious" to "need to be serious"

"you've lost it, you'll never get out of this maze!"

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't disagree on your prognosis for fields.

but i’m also having trouble seeing a match for a 3B with what the sox have to offer. the sox have poreda. that’s it. everyone else is throw-in material. and i just don’t see the sox trading poreda, either. like i said, i’m sure KW will come up with something – heck, maybe a three team deal involving dye going to some team, some team sending a player to seattle or something, and the sox getting beltre could be worked out. but that’s getting pretty far down the wayward path.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

I think it will be something bizarre and out of left field (the KW way), something no one could probably guess at this time. But in all seriousness I don’t think you are that far off to what might happen.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only other place you could make a trade, conceivably, is from starting pitching.

and that means vazquez. the problem, of course, is that you’d be blowing a huge hole into the middle of the rotation which already has back-end questions. i’m sure such a move would be satisfying to many fans initially but they’d probably be changing their tune around may 25. i, of course, don’t mind undisciplined vazquez so i don’t think the sox should move him. nor do i place a high degree of probability on them doing it, though i’m sure it will be seriously considered.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only way I'd sign Rocco is for no more than 2 years

at Uribe annualized $, so I agree with you. His dinger 2 nights ago just raised his asking price. I still think he’s an injury waiting to happen but there is no one with his upside available. Who’s his agent?

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

iirc, he negotiated his last contract himself.

but his agent is listed as casey close.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So we have that going for us.

BTW, it’s about time you got off your ass and did something constructive on this site. Rec’d for above post.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the only thing with Rocco

Is some conversations about hand shake deals and promises between the team and him because of his medical condition. But Ive seen that go out the window before (Grant Hill example).

Of course they could WIN the WS and that might be the over the top factor, but it is still the AL East and it is still Tampa.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What does that last sentence mean?

AL East and Tampa? Not sure of your implication.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not trying to insult Tampa wu

Boston, NY and Toronto is still around. Tampa, not exactly baseball town.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't being defensive -

I really didn’t know what you meant re: Tampa and AL East.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i've been wondering about rocco

what exactly is the deal with his mitochondria or whatever?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dante's the doctor, but this is from morrissey's article today.

The 27-year-old Baldelli has no idea whether he’s going to recover fully or suffer a serious setback. He knows he feels better. He doesn’t know why.

So he rests. A lot.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

put him on a modified griffey plan.

three or four starts a week, BA late inning replacement (not like baldelli’s defense is bad or anything), DH sometimes, etc.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

herm will handle it.

apparently they’ve figured out something enough to get him on the field for the last couple months. i’ll take the upside. the man just performs whenever he’s healthy. the sox, for better or worse, probably have enough weird outfield depth to take the risk.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Whenever he's healthy" is an awfully big caveat.

But $8-10MM for 2 years (yeah, I raised your stinkin’ $7-9MM since he’s on the national stage) is not expensive. Look how Uribe turned out for $4.5MM – initially it looked like a waste and in the end saved our (championship) season.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's only money. and not mine. bring him on board.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've spent all yours on Phish tickets.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

psh. i gots moar than $170

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And the silver?

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can you give me the language of origin, plz?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking of you as Roy Hobbs with Gus

when Gus was guessing how much cash Roy had in his pockets.

“You got ten bucks.”

(Pulls out $8 in bills.)

“And the silver?”

And you call yourself a baseball fan and sophisitcate. DB.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i call myself what? i ain't no hsa.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ain't that the troof. what's a "sophisitcate" anyway?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dont be a smart ass.....lol

he did save the division run, though not by himself.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No hyperbole meant - we don't have Juan, we don't win the division.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You could say the same thing about a lot of people though. Like, say, Q!

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Oct 15, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

right. doesn't mean it ain't true.

change one thing to worse this season and it’s ova.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm talking about the $4.5MM folks were crying about

being spent on resigning Juan last year and comparing it to Baldelli’s potential cost for next year. The efficacy of spending $4-5MM on Baldelli is borne out by how Juan’s expenditure turned out. Compare apples to apples, fer Chrissakes. I’m not saying Juan was our MVP. I’m saying he was worth the $4.5MM.

Fer Chrissakes.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, my proposal does mean that baldelli would be paid more if he performs.

so that cost is higher. but i don’t view a $7-10M commitment over two years as much. if it ends up being a sunk cost, well, them’s the breaks. i see big upside, even if he’s in a limited role.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep. Incent the hell out of Rocco. I like variable performance clauses.

Since that’s how I work. I perform, you pay. I don’t, you don’t pay as much.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so vazquez defnitely coming back?

by The Scoper on Oct 15, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a pretty realistic plan...

I like the idea of Baldelli, actually. It takes advantage of the Sox crowded OF and gives them at least some games with a CF that can hit and field. I’d be happy if the Sox followed that plan.

In trying to predict what KW will really do, I think Tdogg is right and that the Sox want to go with getz at 2B and fill 3B with a veteran. I have to think KW really, really, really wants Chone Figgins because he gets a 3B and “leadoff hitter” all in one.

by hitlesswonder on Oct 15, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

also seems to fit KW's MO

of taking a risk on players whose value has diminished for whatever reason (Floyd, Q!, etc)

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 15, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chonie's a little older than those 2...

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

probably referring to baldelli there, no?

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know.

His last reference was to Figgins. I default to my English writing class lessons.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

baldelli

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 15, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, then.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How would we acquire Figgins?

Would Konerko and a prospect be enough? If so, we could plug Swish into first from Larry’s proposed order above.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 15, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's a question for a month from now, at least.

wait for the texeira shoe to drop. JD would be far more attractive than PK, though. and there we’re talking a much more straight swap.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point

And I’d imagine Swish/Q! over Dye in right would be a decent bump in outfield defense.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 15, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice work

and I like the plan overall. The Baldelli bit has me wondering about health, but your argument above is reasonable. I don’t know what to think of Grudz because of his age, but I will defer to your judgment.

I ask the following because I know you are thorough in most of your affairs: did you do the (estimated) numbers and compare the payroll to 2008?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i did.

there’s some wiggle in it due to unknowns (how much jenks? just cutting macdougal?). the sox’ effective payroll last year was something around $114M. my plan would probably see that rise by roughly $8M.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very competitive, reasonable,

and the partners still make $ (esp. w/ mlbtv). Win-win.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

and thanks again to larry for the proposed roster. This is intriguing and gets the mental gears moving

And as for WU…not so much.

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

why is both PK and JT

still on your fantasy team? One of those guys has to go… preferably the guy who doesn’t have a ring.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's not my fantasy team. read better.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it's not...

why do you dance around the real issue? Our problem this wasn’t that we were OLD it was that we are SLOW. Those may be the 2 slowest guys in all of baseball.. that is all I was saying… If we can move either of them I say go ahead and do it.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What is your plan to move them?

by Grinder in Training on Oct 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

because the sox can't move them. i would have thought that was rather obvious.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about "can't" maybe "not likely",

considering production from the DH spot is way down over the past couple of years. Seems some teams could be looking for a DH IMO.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so why would i deal with things that are "not likely" in what is meant to be realistic plan.

sounds rather like a waste of time.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

re-read my post.

look past the subject line.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't care what your thoughts on the DH market or PK's sure love for miami are.

i’m not going to waste my time addressing every “not likely” scenario i can come up with regarding the white sox.

shop them. fine. nothing will come of it. happy?

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe it is very likely one or both of them are gone by the start of next season.

KW knows he can not go into another season with the cholesterol brothers. Even if he can not get what he wants for them he WILL make something happen. If we can see it, he saw it long before… At least that is what he is paid to do.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cholesterol brothers?

seriously? just call them slow old guys. they probably have lower bad HDL levels than most of us.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you know... the way they clog the bases...

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i do have to give you that one

thought you were calling them fat or somethin. well-played

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

considering production from the DH spot is way down over the past couple of years. Seems some teams could be looking for a DH IMO.

= makes trading them more likely.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you down wit NTC?

yeah you know me!

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 15, 2008 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does Thomer have a NTC?

I am sure Konerko would waive his NTC to play in a warm weather city… What do the Marlins have to offer?

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he had to waive it to come to chicago

doesn’t it stay on the contract?

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 15, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe he has no trade rights...

not sure what the difference is if there is any?

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no way the marlins take on pk's contract

loria doesn’t really do that

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In this political season I have to say

Larry your plan is a little too conservative for my liking. I don’t think you can have both Getz and Fields in the lineup. I believe Fields will be packaged to Seattle for Adrian Beltre. I will go a step further and say that you can get Beltre and Bedard in exchange for Fields, Richard and Link. I also believe you can pick up a starter from the Giants (Cain) in exchange for Konerko and Cash. I think you can move Javy for some good prospects. I think you sign Damaso Marte to a 2 year deal with an option to serve as your second lefty. (i know the people that were just fans since mid 2005 might think i am crazy for this suggestion…but a bad marte is still far and away better than Ramirez/Logan.

C AJ
1B Swish
2B Getz/Uribe
SS Ramirez
3B Beltre
LF Quentin
CF Owens/Anderson
RF Dye
DH Thome

Bench
Hall
Getz/Uribe
Anderson/Owens
Wise

SP
Buehrle
Floyd
Danks
Bedard
Cain

Pen
Jenks
Thornton
Dotel
Linebrink
Marte
Russell
Carrasco/Contreras

I think Kenny will do more than you are suggesting….but not near as much as some would like him to do.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 15, 2008 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

flagged for satirical trade ideas

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 15, 2008 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually I don't think any of the trade ideas are far fetched at all.

The mariners will be looking to unload a lot of players and the Giants have some decent pitching but their leading home run hitter had 16 homers. Benji Molina. They need power and if the sox pick up a portion of Konerko’s remaining salary I can see the sox getting Cain or Sanchez as Phil Rogers suggested.

If i was making satirical trade offers I would have included a Mike Macdougal and Brian Anderson for Grady Sizemore deal that would benefit both teams. The sox could use Sizemore’s speed and power combination and Macdougal could step into the vacant Indians closers role…with Anderson providing outstanding defense roaming center for the Tribe.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 15, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

only a few flaws in your plan

but otherwise, pretty sound.

bedard won’t be able to pitch until after the AS break next year, right?

and no way SF gives up Cain for Kong and cash

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the report i read on bedard is he will be ready by spring training

if I am wrong on that and he is out til the all star break then fuck the whole thing!

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 16, 2008 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with your first two sentences

Keep in mind signing Marte will cost 2 draft picks

by 3E8 on Oct 15, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

only one

but who’s counting.

Draft picks are for pussies anyways

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 15, 2008 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad

thanks

by 3E8 on Oct 15, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

eh we'll get two for cabrera so if we lose one to strengthen the bullpen i am fine with it.

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 16, 2008 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marte will not be pitching on Ozzie's team.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 5:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok then stick with Logan. He's way better

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 16, 2008 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also agree w/ U-God

Paulie + cash =/ Cain. But keep postulating.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like everything except

the idea of giving Nick Swisher’s AB’s to Baldelli. Here’s why:
Nick Swisher OPS+ in every season with 500+ PA: 101, 125, 127, 93. Career OPS+ of 112
Rocco Baldelli OPS+ in every season with 500+ PA: 99, 100. Career OPS+ 102

Now Rocco has durability issues that limit his seasons of greater than 500 PA. But I don’t think you put undue weight on his 80 PA’s this year because he can’t stay healthy. It’s still a small sample size and his true talent is more likely to be closer to his career OPS+ (102) than this year’s OPS+ (117).

Swish will soon be 28, Baldelli is 27. Swish may be one of the best bets in all of baseball to bounce back.
I will await more fielding metrics (PMR, UZR?, chone, Dial) to become available before definitively commenting about Swish in CF. But my impression is average, maybe slightly below average.

So I’m fine with getting Baldelli, but I would switch their roles. Swish starts everyday somewhere. Baldelli gets 3-4 starts a week. If Baldelli outplays Swish over the course of the season then that can change. But that’s probably a 200 PA difference over the course of a season and I’d rather Swish get those extra ABs until proven otherwise.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

his true talent is not closer to 102. that's ridiculous.

what’s driving his career OPS+ were two “average” seasons at age 21 and 22. that’s where over 2/3 of his career PAs are from. a guy who hits like that as a 21 and 22 year old does not have “true talent” there. his true talent is much closer to 115-120. just like swisher’s.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by the way, his projections prior to this year pretty much nailed his OPS.

though obviously in less PAs. i’m quite comfortable in him being able to put up similar or better numbers next year, assuming health.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and, whether you, i or anyone else like it or not,

swisher is not going to be starting regularly at the outset of next season. i try to inject some realism into my plans. if this were larry’s ideal plan, payroll would be going up by about $30M, swisher would be starting, dye would be gone, grudzielanek would not be acquired to caddy for getz, and a variety of other changes.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

larry referring himself in the 3rd person again.

Rec’s go straight to his balls.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We shall

see. I think he will be starting regularly. He is one of Kenny’s guys and KW gave up some good talent to get him. I don’t think they will bench him just because he had a bad year. I think the suggestion his true talent is closer to his 80 PA OPS+ of 117 is the ridiculous statement.

By the way my definition of true talent includes ability to play healthy. You can’t just toss out ‘07 when he posted an OPS+ of 65 in 137 ABs because he wasn’t healthy. Part of his deficit IRT to Swish is that not only does he have a high likelihood of missing games he also has a higher likelihood of playing at a lower level because of not being 100% (as in ’07). This is part of his “true talent”.

And of course it always come back to larry statements = brilliant. Everybody else = ridiculous. When you say that statements you disagree with are ridiculous and most people are thinking “well I might disagree, but that’s not crazy” you make yourself less credible. Stepping back and admitting that there is more than one reasonable opinion only helps your argument I think.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

projection systems seem to agree with me. brilliant.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

and we know that one thing that projection systems have problems with is projecting the impact of injury and illness on performance. Especially when the injury/illness may be some undefined metabolic disorder. There aren’t very many PECOTA comps for that.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seems to have nailed it even without such information, no?

not sure you need to get specific w/r/t to the injury/illness issue. he either plays or he won’t. they’ll either manage the issue or they won’t. sounds to me like they’ve got it under control. i was skeptical earlier this year but he’s exceeded my expecations. he will hit if he’s healthy. the guy has never failed in that. i think his situation can be managed successfully and i’d sure as heck start him if healthy over swisher in center. baldelli = better CF. ymmv.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

this year. But I’m quite confident that PECOTA didn’t “nail” his ‘07 season. Should we go with ’07 wrong projection or ’08’s correct projection? Flip a coin? This all comes back to my point: PECOTA can’t project a illness that might be completely gone, might be completely debilitating (can’t play), or might be just debilitating enough to give you a 65 OPS+.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

great.

what does this have to do with starting him in center over swisher if he’s healthy?

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obviuosly

they didn’t identify that he was too ill to play in ‘07 until he had posted 150 PA’s of suckitude. And given the apparent waxing and waning nature of his disease, what if he started of OK then the disease worsened, but he was already entrenched (is he just slumping or sick?). Does he get 150 PA to find out? 100? There’s just no way to model this.

Look Larry, we’re arguing over 200 PA’s max. I’m just much less confident in Rocco’s ability to be not only healthy enough to play, but healthy enough to play well. You are confident in those things. Let everyone else figure out their own opinion.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i don't get why you're going after me for saying that baldelli should start four days a week in CF if he's healthy.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not going after you.

I’m just saying Swish should be the default. He should play most everyday somewhere. When Baledelli’s in CF though Swish should be somewhere (DH against lefties, spelling Paulie, spelling JD) I like the plan of Baldelli 3-4 times a week. You seem to like 4-5. OK. We can differ on this without someone’s opinion being “ridiculous”.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

your opinion on how to play them isn't ridiculous.

it’s your calculation of true talent which is.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you should have said projection, and not true talent, because that's what it appears you meant.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I guess we’ve boiled our discussion down to it’s essence: including durability in true talent is ridiculous for Larry but perfectly reasonable for bhoov.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

like i asked,

if you’d show me how you’re calculating this, i’d like to see it. it seems real seat of the pants to me how you’re coming up with this.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't

calculate it, but neither can PECOTA. This is one of those cases where medicine is an art and it’s impact on performance will be variable. What I can do is outline reasons why PECOTA was wrong in ‘07, right in ’08 and we don’t know in ’09 (which I do above). PECOTA is operating on the false premise that he doesn’t have a potentially debilitating, waxing and waning metabolic disorder. This is what makes me lack confidence that Baldelli is displaying his true talent this year, but not in ’07.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay. why do you think the sox or any other team would continue to trot out a player with a mitochondrial disorder if he's not feeling fully fit.

i don’t understand why your adjustment for injuries is so heavily bent towards reducing his performance. playing time is what will hurt him – and most players – when injuries are taken into account. he’s simply not going to be allowed to repeat ‘07 now that people actually know what’s wrong with him and how to treat it. he won’t be asked to be part of the “just play through it, pussy” crowd. his ass will be on the bench or the DL if he’s not feeling good. the sox have an excellent medical staff.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sometimes it's hard

to tell. With waxing and waning chronic diseases it’s very difficult for patients and physicians to notice changes that might happen slowly over weeks. So they often rely on blood tests. If you’re following Lupus for example that’s feasible. AFAIK Baldelli’s condition has not been specifically diagnosed well enough to do these kind of things. So how many ABs do you waste trying to figure out if he’s sick or just in slump?

Anyway, Lar I gotta run. Neglecting my work getting into this extended discussion. We’ll just have to agree to disagree. It’s been fun.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you have nick swisher, not many.

rather the point of having him and others, no?

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In the interest

of trying to follow my own suggestion, I recant the statement that your idea is “ridiculous”. I don’t think it’s ridiculous. I just have a different opinion than you.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, now you can be taken seriously,

since you recognized you were doing what you suggest larry does.

Do some research, bhoov. ;)

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was going to bite my tongue on that one.

i still think yours is ridiculous. though it makes more sense in a ridiculous sort of way now that you’ve explained your definition of true talent.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rec'd = massive increase in sack circumference.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe that reasonable people

won’t find my logic ridiculous. But then again that’s a term that is rarely applied to you.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

show me some math then.

how do you calculate his true talent?

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love me some calculumus

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 15, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHAT'S CALKOOL US?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't show

you any math. This is one of those cases where medicine is an art and it’s impact on performance will be variable. What I can do is outline reasons why PECOTA was wrong in ‘07, right in ’08 and we don’t know in ’09 (which I do above).

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we're talking true talent, aren't we.

not projections. i don’t really know why you’re conflating true talent with injuries but you decided to in your definition.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

side note...

i love your plan larry, but how feasible is it that we go after rocco/he leaves tbr?

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 15, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

moderate to high.

i don’t think the rays will retain him unless they can’t acquire another OF, which i think will be their top target in the offseason with their excess pitching etc. (see how they were pursuing jason bay at the deadline).

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps they would be interested in one Jermaine Dye?

Kill two birds with one stone!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so i'm guessing a reverse version of garza/young trade?

one of their many young pitchers for a young outfielder with upside (hopefully more than delmon)?

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 15, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell no!

They should trade for Dye. They need veteran experience!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

First of all

I’m not conflating anything. I don’t think it is at all “ridiculous” to include Durability as part of true talent. Durability includes ability to stay healthy enough to play and ability to stay healthy enough to play well.

I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.

by bhoov on Oct 15, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

great. again, i don't know what this has to do with starting baldelli over swisher if he's healthy.

if he’s not, that’s why the contract is set up the way it is and why you have swisher or dye still on the roster instead of traded away. if baldelli ain’t healthy, you can bet your ass he won’t be playing. he’ll be treated with kid gloves by whomever has him.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

rec'd

if you disagree with larry you are an idiot. just sayin.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this thread needs moar fun.

first, the (maybe) real: here

then, the spoof: here

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Access denied.

Again I must delay my gratification. Again.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It wasn't that good

bird poops in dumbass reporter’s mouth

dog poop dropped into fake dumbass reporter’s mouth

Note to Toonder: It’s only funny if you put the dog poop into food and give it to homeless people. It tastes way better that way to boot!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the noise the reporter makes is what makes it.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if you say so.

Have I rained on your parade yet? ;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not any more than usual, poseidon.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow...

highlarryis!

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

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by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 15, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dang

Why you guys have to be so ugly?

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."

by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by Tdogg on Oct 15, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the offseason leaves only us to turn on each other.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fuck you, Fishboy!

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm listening to a conference call with 2 major money managers.

I’m depressed. I’m not worried about the Sox. I hope you all have a pot to piss in this spring.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the economy sucks, I'm glad I have a job

And I’m glad that NYC is sort of in better shape than other places.

by madvillian on Oct 15, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NFL...

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wrong pro sport league

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not...for...long.

Fer Chrissakes.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's called a joke wu

didn’t think humor left the elderly so fast

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still listening the call.

50% shot of another 40% decline doesn’t leave me in good humor.

I’m a downer right now – will stop until baseball starts. This not the forum for my demeanor.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Things could be worse

you could be a crackhead living in a cardboard box….in Winnipeg in the Winter!

Man, those guys are suckers!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I'm in the public sector and obvs I'm affected, but not as much as if I worked for Lehman

And NYC should be better positioned than almost anywhere else in the country.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200810151224DOWJONESDJONLINE000774_FORTUNE5.htm

by madvillian on Oct 15, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Public servant saying things are no different as before.

Does not inspire confidence. We have not been here before. 1820 in London, maybe, 1907 US, perhaps. Otherwise, no. It will be worse than before.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I'm heartened by Roubini predicting a 2 year recession

With a DJ bottom of around 7000 in 2009. That’s actually not so bad compared to a depression….or permanent contraction….

by hitlesswonder on Oct 15, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=asxXHEAn1glc&refer=home

9% unemployment would be tough, but the party is over I guess, time to buck up. I’m worried, but we will get through this.

by madvillian on Oct 15, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that image tripod thing is hilarious

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 15, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That didn't open in IE or firefox

so FIAL to you.

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or Chrome on Ubuntu

cutting edge here

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've been wanting to make that switch, but haven't taken the plunge

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 15, 2008 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still don't get it.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To spell it out, I don't see the image Toonder wanted to post

all I see is a graphic with overlapping blue and green circles that says “image hosed by tripod.com”

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 16, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WHOOSH

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 16, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand that I missed it.

I just don’t rememeber the genesis of the image. Is it a “fial” commentary?

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's rhythm. i'm sure it had to do with global warming or some other lame ass cause.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's talking about YOUR image, doofus.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

???

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is this a "fial" commentary on my gloominess?

That’s all I want to know. I don’t remember where the “tripod” think came from. If it is a “fial” thing, you are a genius creatively, but not so re: capital markets.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was a picture of gd orson welles with the snowglobe about ready to fucking fall to the ground.

i fail. miserably. both creatively and re: capital markets.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rosebud you are.

I give you too much credit.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

payment in vino.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Chiming in

I’ll put this down here because it’s a response not to one comment, but rather the conversation on the whole.

I agree more with bhoov than larry. Swisher will be back, and, without moving one of JD/Kong/Thome, he’ll be back starting in CF. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

as for the true talent discussion that ensued… Substitute Joe Crede’s name for Baldelli’s, and then ask yourself the same questions. I know this isn’t 100% analogous because of age and the different injury issues. But think of it this way. Since he broke his finger in ‘05 and revamped his swing, Joe Crede has been a plus defensive .850 OPS 3B when healthy. But he’s missed HUGE chunks of time over the last three seasons, and seen his overall numbers take HUGE hits when it’s clear he’s playing through pain.

Now none of us are clamoring to bring Crede back next year because he can’t be counted on. And the same could be said of Baldelli.

He could be a great pickup. he’s a player who we’ve all thought about adding at one point or another. But were he to be acquired the Sox would have to insulate themselves against his inevitable breakdowns and/or implement a plan to manage his workload and field time such that he remains as healthy as possible.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 15, 2008 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But were he to be acquired the Sox would have to insulate themselves against his inevitable breakdowns and/or implement a plan to manage his workload and field time such that he remains as healthy as possible.

i don’t see why this is a problem with swisher and anderson on the team. they don’t need to insulate. they’re already insulated. i see baldelli more as insulation against what i view as inevitable injury/missed time for dye, PK, quentin and thome. basically, what a griffey acquisition should have been and better.

the joe crede comp is a decent one. i don’t think joe (except for perhaps the last month or so of his sox career) played below his true talent level. he was an average player. yes, he missed time. that was (largely) where the impact of his injury was felt, not in his overall production. the same would likely be the case with baldelli.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Take a look at the gamelogs since '05

since I believe that is when he finally corrected his horrible swing mechanics and found a new “true talent” when healthy.

Crede was 1.000 OPS machine in ’05 after the injury (not true talent, obviously)
He put up an .830 OPS in ’06 (which featured some time nominal time missed, but featured some talk about back surgery)
has terrible ’07 and finally admits back is bothering him Mid-May. Continues to play (poorly) and argue against surgery.
In ’08, Has an .850 OPS when he misses his first time to back issues following Cubs series, posts terrible numbers over his final 100+ at-bats.

It’s a shaky argument, admittedly. But I wrote (a since deleted) fanpost at McCovey Chronicles (in anticipation of Crede being traded there) comparing a healthy Crede to Adrian Beltre. And I still think that comparison applies. But I wouldn’t count on Crede for anything.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 15, 2008 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's what makes Beltre so appealing, I assume

get what Crede could have been.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still riding the Beltrain.

chooo-motherfucking-choo

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seattle isn't going to have that management issue solved any time soon

and it’s looking like some kind of Ed Wade redux thing might happen there, since it looks like a lot of smart young AGMs want to keep it long-distance only with the M’s.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow. but...but...ain't riggleman the heart of that organization?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

players with medical issues

in any sport, very rarely work out

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what I mean to say

I’m not taking about a bit of illness or a strained hammy, but the kind of chronic conditions that Crede et all suffer from.

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a technical problem with the blog

who do I report it to?

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ssh2005.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's not very helpful

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the last time i checked, hippies are not known for their "helpfulness."

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's it. i'm canceling the checks. and you're going to have to find a new apartment for you and your portslut posse.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cuz your bathtub was so "accommodating."

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

be glad i didn't hang you from the towel hook and get over it.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did MM send you that? original photography? simply, under-statingly entitled: "Last Friday."

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

some people don't appreciate the necessary risks for true art.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not much meat on those legs

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

she's been hanging there a while.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

Rec'd.

Can’t believe that is not green already. Excellent.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you see, hoodie, mm's not a big guy - he has to go for the skinny ones so he can lift them up on the towel hook.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he has to put her up there lots of times.

that’s the whole point. once you find one you like and kill her, you can really revise your portslut budget until the odor becomes too much.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually, i am a pretty big guy, but i do have a strict no fat chicks policy. so you're not gonna see me hanging any fat chicks.

that being said, i don’t in any way want to this to be misconstrued as me saying fat chicks shouldn’t be killed. i’m don’t begrudge anyone for killing fat chicks. more power to them.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again......

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 15, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PUT THE FUCKING LOTION IN THE BASKET!

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like skinny birds

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm glad you clarified that last part.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Figgins?

Is he even as good as fields with the glove at 3rd?

Bringing the awesome?I'm down!

by Swish30 on Oct 15, 2008 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yes.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

perhaps i am in the minority here,

but i think rocco is gonna get a better deal than 2 years/$8-10M. guys with his kind of upside are gonna get generous offers based on limited appearances. he’s looked good since he’s come back. his talent was always highly regarded. some gm is gonna be ready to give him something like 3 years/$21-24M with some incentives to make that $10M per. i’m not saying i think that’s what he should get, but i don’t think we’re gonna get a shot at some kind of a bargain bin high upside contract with baldelli.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 6:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Then I walk from it.

Any 3 year guarantee is horseshit unless incentive-laden. He has much to prove. And with a heretofore wacky illness that can’t be quantified let the Yankees or BoSux overpay for him.

I have a hard time believing he’s ready for a major market team (that would be the only one to overpay).

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

indeed.

i can’t believe anyone would give him that much guaranteed money over that long of a contract. the guy hasn’t played in the last three years as many games as he did in one at 21. like 225 ABs in the last two seasons? i love the guy as much as anyone obviously but this is high, high risk. you may very well be throwing away $24 million for absolutely nothing at all. the only team who can throw away such money and actually may need an outfielder is the yankees. not much of a market at that level methinks.

but you never know. if that’s what it takes to get him – he’s still got at least five more games to impress and jack up his value – drop it.

by larry on Oct 15, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i hope you're right. i would love to see that guy in a sox uniform. hopefully teams are appropriately wary of his health.

but i just see the handful of interested teams all looking at his upside and that he plays a premium position and he’s entering his peak years. once that happens, what would be a reasonable risk turns into a small scale bidding war. obviously i’m just speculating, but there’s a lot to like about rocco and i imagine this won’t be lost on potential suitors.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's not a full time player, as far as i can tell.

maybe something will change and he can convince a team that he is capable of doing so. seems medically impossible/inadvisable from what i can tell. you’re basically buying at best, what, 2/3 of a full time player? maybe 3/4? i dunno what the exact number is. but you don’t give that kind of contract to a guy who you already know isn’t a full time player and has a high risk of being less than that.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jerry Reinsdorf is 72 right

what happens to the Sox if he drops dead or goes senile or something like that?

regards

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

we pray a good owner steps in

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Estate plan is set.

Someone else writes the checks.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so grim

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 15, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jerry Krause has power of attorney

With consultation from beyond the grave by Bill Wirtz, and special Chicago Tough advice from Mike Ditka.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 16, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is anyone watching baseball tonight?

WTF? All you Furcal-lovers ought to be glued to the set.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he's just done his hammy

limping back to the bench

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

See, Manny sucks.

Hitting .500. He fials 1/2 of the time. POS. Think if your surgeon had that “success” ratio.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I wish I had that success rate

when I ask girls for a shag

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What happened to"the missus"?

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 15, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!!!!!

You are on fire, phish boy.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what a pot smokin' hippie

can’t believe you’re giving him a pass on this.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

in the past

I’m a good boy now

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could give a shit about either NL team,

yet I am rooting for the Fils tonight. After Billingsley’s last start, and classless BS interviews, I hope he gets lit up like a Christmas tree.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

classless BS interviews?

care to explain?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 16, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fucking fireworks

little bastards letting them off all over the place, it’s always the same this time of year. Chinese bloke who lives up the road from me, who will set off fireworks to celebrate having a decent dump, really pisses me off. and my cat Stan hates them, makes him nervous and he starts licking the windows which makes him throw up.
I hate fucking fireworks

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 15, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So many levels of angst to dissect in his one, hoodie.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you and i, we are the same.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had no idea Jayson Werth was the grandson of Ducky Schofield.

Or the nephew of Dick Schfield. Interesting from a family tree/DNA point of view.

I’m going to bed. Have to explain to all my clients tomorrow why they are doing well despite being down 15-20%.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

bring something shiny.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or a portslut.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 15, 2008 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think they're gonna be down more than that after tomorrow.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 15, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Billingsley can suck it!

See you, LA.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 15, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i found the John Danks of kittehs!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 15, 2008 8:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks more like a little firestarter

by 3E8 on Oct 15, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

griffey has knee surgery

Chicago White Sox outfielder Ken Griffey Jr. on Tuesday had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, which bothered him for most of the 2008 season.

The surgery was performed by Cincinnati Reds’ team doctor.

This season, Griffey had the knee drained twice while he was with the Reds and once after his trade to the White Sox.

Griffey’s knee troubles could be the source of his dip in home runs last season. He hit 30 in 428 at-bats in the 2007 season but just 18 in 528 at-bats in 2008.

“There’s no question,” Dr. Tim Kremchek said, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. “It affected that push-off leg. How much I don’t know. But he was dealing with it all year. There’s not much you can do early in the season.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3644615

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 15, 2008 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs