Rafael Furcal does his best Dan Uggla impersonation, Phils headed to World Series.

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No Manny, No BoSox

No Drama?

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Oct 16, 2008 12:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh god!

ESPN’s worst nightmares are coming true!

by mjthor on Oct 16, 2008 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Folks still digging Furcal at SS next year?

PS When Rays close this ALCS series out watch America embrace the Low Payroll Kids. This is perfect. ESPN has already started embracing this as evidenced by the promos we saw at the Rays/Sox game a couple weeks ago.

How American: Worst-to-First on a Shoestring!

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Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 7:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Furcal

yes

by 3E8 on Oct 16, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Silly boy.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Furcal is horribly over-rated

He’s a slightly better than average SS on the wrong side of 30 due to be looking for one more huge contract. I hope the Sox avoid him.

by madvillian on Oct 16, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

his talents aren't quite the type that you worry so much about declining with age, especially at say 31-33.

the preeminent concern should be his injuries. i think he’ll be productive if healthy. that’s just a pretty big if. the dodgers are keeping him anyway.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, and as you imply: age isn't going to help the injury bug.

by madvillian on Oct 16, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just reading the speculation over at mlbtraderumors about his contract.

don’t know how much stock to put into it but the idea of a 1 or 2 year contract for him seems real friendly to the dodgers and risky for furcal. that’s a contract i would do for him in the heartbeat, however. start getting beyond 2….

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 years 25 million as a starting point

but I don’t see why Furcal wouldn’t be looking for a 4-6 year deal.

by madvillian on Oct 16, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3-5 maybe.

Is he making $11MM/yr now for 3 years?

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Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

effectively $13M per

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he can look. but can he find? missing like the entire season prior to free agency usually isn't a great way to hit paydirt.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He deserves some accolade

He’s always been top of the class in Bill James’ fielding bible for shortstops as well as defensive win shares. His offense production is probably average overall in the big picture, but well above average for his position. I don’t know the extent of his back injury to determine if the risk in signing him would outweigh the reward. But I’m very interested

by 3E8 on Oct 16, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, the big picture is probably that he hits fairly well for a ss

fields well for ss, but he comes with huge question marks about health and isn’t cheap.

He’d probably be a perfect fit with the white sox if they could get him on a 2 year deal. Let Herm do his magic.

by madvillian on Oct 16, 2008 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quick question:

Did the Phils win because of Rowand in CF?

Thx.

The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

by Chiburb on Oct 16, 2008 8:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that is a joke right?

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 16, 2008 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No sig?

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Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree...I think Rowand showed them the way last season...

Wins are often a lagging indicator of an injection of Rowandosity into a team and clubhouse. The Sox win in 2005 came a full 4 years after Rowand was introduced into the White Sox major league organization. The Phillies playoff run has come in the third year after being Rowand. I expect the Giants will be resurgent in 2010 or 2011.

by hitlesswonder on Oct 16, 2008 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rowand: God or mortal with bigger balls than everyone else?

discuss

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 16, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

depends...did he get a piece of whatever kellen winslow, jr. was getting?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean this?

The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

by Chiburb on Oct 16, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OT: Hawks Fire Savard

Keith, what’s up with this? A little early in the season, no?

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

first i'm hearing of it, but off the top of my head if there is a huge issue, do it now a week in...

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

its 4 games in

I would have thought that the coaching situation could have been cleared up in the offseason? Just trying to get back into the sport so I apologize for my ignorance if everyone saw this coming.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's the blackhawks

the more things change, the more…

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Will it fix the power play?

That’s all I care about. I’ve never seen so many rushes broken up in the neutral zone.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Oct 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

speaking of which...

How did the Hawks get a point for losing the other night? I thought it was 2 for a win, 1 for a tie. Now they give points for losses?

The party's over
It's time to call it a day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

by Chiburb on Oct 16, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shootout or overtime loss counts as a point

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 16, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually this is pretty rare for the Hawks,

they usually wait until the season is lost to make any changes.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 16, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right

I was thinking that it may seem strange, but at the organization is acting

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was making a more global jab

about odd decisions. of course, i have more confidence in this management than the previous so i would bet this isn’t an odd decision once the details are known.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah being so early is the only suprising thing

but there’s been whispers since training camp that Quennville has been lurking and Savard’s contract was up at the end of the year. He’s a real live NHL coach, something the Hawks haven’t had since Darryl Sutter was behind the bench. Tallon might be the next to go, Scotty Bowman isn’t messing around.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 16, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed re: Tallon

he hasn’t been terrible, but he’s made a huge mess out of the goalie situation. Things are going to look worse and worse (for him) if Khabibulin continues to play well — I was at the game last night and boy did that Russian put in a great effort. So now their second big FA signing is going to be nothing more than a platoon player — that’s a great allocation of funds.

by CWSKeith on Oct 16, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he continues to play well

I’d imagine he’d be a valued commodity in a trade?

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry...ot again...but are you going to try to get tickets saturday?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I'm going to at least attempt it

stubhub is probably out of my price range

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

but if they ship out the Russian and Huet keeps playing like he has (poorly), then that will open up a whole new can of worms.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 16, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, probably

to what extend though, I’m not sure. Even with his early (good) start, I think the Hawks would gladly unload him if a team, any team, would willingly just take the contract off of the Hawks’ hands. For one, it’d allow them to actually play their fourth best defenseman in Cam Barker, who has essentially been relegated to the A not because of talent but because his salary cap hit takes the Hawks above the limit. Of course, that wouldn’t be necessary if Tallon didn’t hand Brent Sopel a contract in the middle of last season — there’s another example of Tallon being more ‘reactionary’ than intelligent. The Hawks picked up Sopel in training camp last year for basically peanuts. He made the roster and played superbly for the first half of the season — Tallon bought that as the real ‘Brent Sopel’ and gave him a two (or three) year contract extension. Of course, ever since (around) Christmas of last year, Sopel has played like… well, Brent Sopel. It’d be the equivalent of the Sox signing Wise to a three-year, $15 million dollar deal this year because of his good play (in one season).

by CWSKeith on Oct 16, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i am against your proposed wise signing.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

pretty surprising but there were some signs that this might have been coming. There was an article a few weeks back about the lack of a Savard extension and he was a bit dismayed by that. Furthermore, the Hawks had actually lined up to bring in Quennville a month or so ago — I believe he got arrested for a DUI, though, so that was sort of thrown under the blankets. There was also the issue of Toews having to call a players-only meeting without Savard’s knowledge. I’m not going to play the ‘chemistry’ game, but there were questions as to whether Savard even had full control of the team (whatever that means).

I think this speaks a lot about Tallon, who more and more is striking me as a very reactionary GM. So the Hawks got off to a slow start… why wasn’t this move made before training camp? Did four games plus a pre-season really tell all that much? Don’t get me wrong — I’m fine with the move. Quennville is ‘proven’ and seems like a better hockey mind (and coach) than Savard…

As far as the PP, that will eventually work itself out — there’s too much talent for it to not work. It’ll take some time, especially with a new system in place, but I’d be shocked if the Hawks don’t end up with (at the very least) a league-average PP.

by CWSKeith on Oct 16, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Talk about taking the captaincy by the reins.. for a 20 year old to call a players only meeting that’s gotta be a first.

I wouldn’t be too worried about the powerplay.. I think the media and hype probably surprised some of the young guys, maybe just pushing things early in a year they are supposed to make the playoffs. Expectations can do that; talent will win out in the end, these guys are too good to be this bad. I don’t see how they don’t become at least league average by season end.

by Grinder in Training on Oct 16, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the meeting was regarding whether or not one of the

older players would go buy him a 6-pack at a local liquor store.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Oct 16, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're pretty dang good with this hockey stuff keith

maybe you’re ripping someone off and i just don’t know it, but you might want to consider writing about the hawks on a blog or something.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 16, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ehh...

I think I have a relatively good handle on the Hawks (and their players, minors included) but outside of that there’s a big drop-off. Furthermore, my knowledge of the game itself isn’t all that great.

What I might be interested in doing a few years down the road — if there isn’t a ‘breakout’ in the time being — is trying to see if I can analyze the stats a bit better and see what I might find. It just seems like how players are analyzed statistically is so rudimentary… guys are lauded for penalties in minutes which strikes me as absolutely crazy — a guy is good because he puts the team down a man a lot? Even the offensive stats strike me as crappy… goals and assists are okay but they strike me as being a lot similar to RBIs in baseball in that they’re somewhat circumstantial. For example, if you’re on a line with Alexander Ovechkin, you damn well better rack up a shitload of assists. And if you’re on a line with Joe Thornton, you better be scoring 25-35 a season. I’ll probably have to cheat a little bit and look at what Beane (and others) have been doing with analyzing soccer in a different light and see if I can apply that to hockey, too, but that might be a fun little ‘experiment’.

by CWSKeith on Oct 16, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it occurs to me that there isn't a sb nation blackhawks blog...

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 16, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes there is.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

damn. i coulda sworn there wasn't one. has that really been there for years? how did i miss that?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 16, 2008 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's been there for awhile. never much action though. easy to miss.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

fields' knee surgery a success

As Fields described the lateral release procedure, four tendons hold up the patella and the one on the outside got scarred up and tight. That tendon was released so the patella could go back where it’s supposed to be in the center of the knee.

Cartilage damage also was cleaned up in the knee.

“There turned out to be a lot more cartilage damage then what was initially expected,” said Fields, who added that the knee soreness came to a head through a handful of collisions at home plate and hard slides breaking up double plays for Triple-A Charlotte in 2008. "It turns out that this has been needed for a while.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081015&content_id=3622370&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

also thinks the increased flexibility will help him on defense (first step, is what he’s thinking, i’m sure – we’ll see) and also get him back to his base stealing ways.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, yeah, it was his grindiness, breaking up the DP, etc.,

that brought it to a head. He is our David Eckstein. I’ve always thought of him that way. Maybe he can play leadoff for us when he’s feeling better.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he hits the ball way too far to be grindy

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 16, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and i havent seen any unnecessary dives into walls

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 16, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the dives were all necessary, but only due to the bad positioning, shitty jump, and baby grand residing on 33's back.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Has Will talked about Fields at all?

How much has this injury affected him and what are the odds he will be able to hit more like his 2007 self on a regular basis?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 16, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does anyone know where SouthSideSOX went?

I’d like to talk a little baseball.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

fuck you. i answered your goddamn question from a month ago about fields. now go to your room and shut up.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grandpa?

I was told you were dead! Just hiding, I see.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

go recite your toastmaster's mantra for tonight and chill the eff out.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love this photo for a variety of reasons

1) the award ceremony appears to be taking place in a storage closet.
2) the award looks like something fat kids “win” for participating.
3) the award appears to have made both of these men very happy.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i love this photo for another reason

4) wu’s checked shirt.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 16, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

flagged.

failure to follow form. should read:

4) the award wu’s checked shirt.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So, larry is a chapter president?

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Oct 16, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ROFL.

The award very, very accurate portrayal of members of that organization. And the ribbons are held onto for years – members’ esteem is generally so low that any token of “YOU LIKE ME! YOU REALLY LIKE ME!!!” is prized like a child.

The award there is also a dearth of hot women (and men, Toonder) in these clubs. At least in Florida.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

recommended.

for ability to follow form.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it looks like the awards ceremony after the pinewood derby in cub scouts.

i really dig the boxes in the background.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 16, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like you ever won the Pinewood Derby, asshole.

Like you would know. Or do you have a cool friend who TOLD you how it went?

Wannabe DB.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This postseason is still going on? Yawn

We’ve seen at least 40 parades in the Mineapolis St. Paul area, Justin Morneau’s face has been etched on the moon, and Joe Mauer is the emperor of the world. Why the fuck are these people still playing baseball when it’s almost Halloween?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 16, 2008 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2008 MLB Season: The Year 90% of the country took a pass on watching the World Series

Assuming the Phillies/Rays match-up.

If Boston sneaks in, then oh my God, the whole universe will be stoked!

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Oct 16, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

4th largest media market?

i imagine the execs are quite happy this year overall. 6 teams from the 4 largest media markets in the playoffs. maybe not the best world series matchup but there have been worse years.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ratings will be fine.

Lots of passion – both positive and negative – for the Fils, and the Rays are a new cuddly toy.

Gater, you are too provincial.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and doesn't 90% of the country already not watch the world series?

i thought the ratings recently have been an 18 share or something?

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The execs will still make plenty of dough, but they're no where near AS happy...

They probably thought they had the perfect playoff storm with LA (2nd largest market), Chicago (3rd), Philadelphia (4th, as you pointed out) and Boston (6th, but with Red Sawks Nation behind them) participating. Now they get Philly (nowhere near as lovable as the Cubbies) and probably Tampa (13th).

I pretty much tuned out once our Sox were ousted, but I just found it amusing that somewhere a Fox exec was pounding his fist and pulling his hair out.

"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)

by tailgater on Oct 16, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love how...

the ratings somehow make a World Series more meaningful to people. I say who gives a flying fuck what the ratings are.

Welcome to Nowhere. How did the treadmill get us here?

by defensive indifference on Oct 16, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's a pretty obscure series. you're probably not familiar with it.

Gas is up and so am I.

by larry on Oct 16, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL.

The (rumored) meltdown of clients sharpens your wit, lawyer-boy.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

for realz

after the 2005 win, all my Cub fans immediately emailed me bragging that it was the lowest rated series. Why should I be concerned about this? I don’t own a stake of the Sox nor do I work for Fox.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I actually kind of like the lower ratings / attendance (outside of the fact this means we can’t spend like the NY Yankees). It’s nice to be a fan of the “2nd team or other team”, especially when we win the world series and they don’t. Probably the reason I like the White Sox more than the Bears even though I’m a bigger football fan. The White Sox might not be “America’s Team” but they’re my team. Not really sure how to explain it without being incredibly lame, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels that way.

by Grinder in Training on Oct 16, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah i agree with that

we’ve got that underground hipster thing going for us. someone (I think U-God) mentioned a Nike ad that ran around 2005 that captured it pretty well.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 16, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes i did

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 16, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Machts nichts.

Who give an eff who else likes our team or watches them? I care about the Ring and Trophena, baby. Screw those on the outside looking in. And the Cub fans that reveled in the “low” ratings in ’05 as though it diminished the championship are idiots – for rooting for the Cubs, first, and for bringing up a non-related or correlated subject to " world championship", second.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 16, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs