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The secret to his success: a slider that broke from the hitter's front shoulder to shin height in the opposite batter's box. The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

The pitch confused hitters, and often angered them. On four separate occasions hitters charged the mound after striking out. Minnesota Twins infielder Nick Punto was suspended for the duration of the season after throwing his bat at the mound one night in late August. Day was not injured.

In fact, Day never suffered an injury despite his incredible workload. During one stretch when he appeared in 62 consecutive games, Guillen said Day often persuaded him to give him the ball.

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that whole post was brilliant.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 18, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

the doomerang according to yahoo

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 18, 2008 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

that's gold jerry, gold!!

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 18, 2008 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

i rofled a few times ;)

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 18, 2008 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very coinincidental that I am watching

“The Day The Earth Stood Still” as I read this thread. It’s ceertainly how I feel right now.

“Dewon. Barada. Nikto.”

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

coinincidental? coin incidental?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

H-8 U.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

does that mean no rec?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

POS. Rec's go right to your pin head.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

those are some nasty

DICKBEATERS.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 18, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

we shouldn't have traded him for macdougal

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outstanding hob Jim!

Day’s No. 60 will be retired, as will No. 6 and No. 0, just to be safe.

:p

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

whining by a cubs blog. imagine that.
I’d like to announce a slight change in plans for BtB. The SBN awards have been shifted to BleedCubbieBlue and pushed back two weeks because incessant whining will apparently get you whatever you want for network wide convenience.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/10/18/637800/introducing-fip-divisional

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 18, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Seems BTB likes colin's 2B proposal

look up: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/

though:

According to ESPN’s Buster Olney:

Heard this: The Oakland Athletics are moving closer to signing second baseman Mark Ellis — who would be eligible for free agency after the World Series — to a multiyear deal.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/as-working-to-r.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

StatCorner


http://www.statcorner.com/

http://www.statcorner.com/team.php?team=CHA&year=2008&leag=A_L

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Is there an AL playoff game tonight, or what?

POS Kotsay.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Only for us old guys

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

even upton's home runs

are lazy fly balls.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 18, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he would look terrible

roaming the Cell for the next 10-15 years.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

playoff game?

screw that; it’s derrick rose time!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pre-season Bulls basketball < Playoff baseball m/o Sox.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

not so fast

what if it’s a Cubs game?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then you have to watch... if for no other reason then...

just to see what new method the come up to with to screw it up

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

MVP! MVP!

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Who, who?

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bartlett, the Rays' MVP, ties the game

with a Pods-like HR.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

But Variteck puts them back ahead

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

who pitches in the event of game 7 tomorrow? garza? v. who?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

(Mo)Lester.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

TB starting to feel the pressure

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

You are about 8 innings behind.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"big game" james said the pressure was all on the sawwwwwwx.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a liar.

LLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

get a glass of wine and settle the eff down.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No more wine - too far to run at 4:30 AM tomorrow.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am a phoenix, babe.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

help plz.

normally i’d have a pretty good idea what your statement means, but since it is you, it could mean:

a. you are a mythical bird (obvious interpretation of what we’ll refer to as “competent” typists)
b. you are in phoenix, and hence you really don’t have to run in 6 hours because you’re not on edt
c. you have recently undergone a few procedures and now instead of an orlando man you are a phoenix woman

moar guidance plz!
kthxbai!

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

ewwww

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

who are you running from?

How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.

by Hoytsstash on Oct 19, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF are the ropes around the Sawx pitchers' necks?

Beckett and Okajima both, though diff. colors.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 18, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

champion chains.

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 18, 2008 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball Sunday night

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe Morgan?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 18, 2008 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 18, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved the Rays' White Sox impression

no hits against relief pitchers, swinging for the fences, dodgy relief. It’s just like old times.

by Bull Pain on Oct 18, 2008 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I rooted for the red sox tonight

because I was drunk and not paying much attention, and honestly, I’d rather be sober for game 7.

And honesly, there impressino was not half as good as Sara Palin impersonating a michael phelps on SNL. I mean what did they give her, like 5 lines? And all of them were like, I’m pretty sure I’m Sarha PAlin" which isn’t exactly a stretch between calling anyone who’s not racist anti-american.

/don’t reply to this. I’m pretty sure I’ll regert writing thsi in the morning.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 19, 2008 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i regret reading it.

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

Yah that was a waste of 15 seconds.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 19, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, is that what I look like?

(Thumbs through Yellow Pages for AA meeting.)

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i still haven't figured out what the hell this means

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you could, I believe you'd be drunk on your ass.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

nor have i

we need some “SSS goggles” like google implemented in Gmail

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 19, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least you didn't text old flames

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 19, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm usually the sender of them

So getting one would have been nice while I expelled the night’s sin at the Fullerton stop.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 19, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Papelbon

25 postseason innings, 10 hits

by 3E8 on Oct 18, 2008 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

as expected, ellis re-signs with the As
Ellis will receive a two-year deal that will guarantee him between $10 million to $11 million, with incentives and an option for 2011 that could bring the total value of the deal to something close to $18 million, a source told ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3651897

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Baldelli's potential price tag looks pretty reasonable.

Meaning it’s too low.

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Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's a huge uncertainty discount for what is already a part-time player.

he can’t start everyday. thus, he can’t be paid like he is. this isn’t barry bonds or something. he’s a 125 OPS+ guy at best in a 2/3 role. and that’s a risky at best.

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand that.

And I know Ellis is more desrable because of it. If this is a first indication of the “market” there does not seem to be much drop-off of price from last year, as I thought there might be. So I think Baldelli might get more than postulated, esp. since the FA CF position is thin.

I still think, given another 2-3 months of economic carnage we might see prices come down.

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

there might be a price decline in the coming years

but right now MLB is flush with cash, which i expect will get used rather than saved. it’s more business savvy to not buy in this market if you project prices will drop the following year(s), especially if you can just sit on the cash you’ve got without losing much to inflation.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

right.

i don’t think you’ll see the effect, if any, until next year. plus, so much of mlb’s money is tied into contracts over a number of years, both on the revenue side and the liability side. does cc get less money over a 6 year contract because the economy may be in recession through 2009? i don’t know, especially since the yankees are rather recession proof.

you may see some effect on the lower end free agents this year, which i guess baldelli could be part of.

i’d also say, if you’re a more austere organization, which the white sox are, if prices do decline, they’d be in a position to profit from it due to a stronger balance sheet (i think we’re more likely to just see less increase in contracts than a decline but the point holds).

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

third time the charm for billy?
Instead, he will be just the third player in the Billy Beane era that the A’s have signed beyond his first free-agent season, joining outfielder Jermaine Dye, who got a three-year deal with an option year in 2002, and third baseman Eric Chavez, who signed a six-year, $66-million extension in 2004.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/18/SP7S13KENR.DTL

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

how much hometown discount is built in there?

because that’s a pretty sweetheart deal for the A’s.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought he could get about $7M per over 3-4 years.

his injury late in the season may have cut that down some but i’m not sure about that considering the injury shouldn’t affect him at all going forward.

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for making my point at least have validity.

Perhaps you might be seeing an adjustment in salaries, just like you did after 2000 (the A-
Rod TX one being the top of the market).

I think i did this wrong. Oh well…..delete my votes as they all suck anyway.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

except

Ellis never got on the market.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems pretty clear from his quotes in what i linked that he wanted to stay in oakland.

a million per, which is what it appears the discount was effectively, sounds about right for the hometown discount.

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we're to assume Ellis would be 6.5/yr on the market?

how do they know what kind of discount is being provided before the market has had any time to work? it’s based on some combo of last year’s baseline + money available amongst teams + supply, presumably?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe in a communistic system

i think players should be payed based on their level of grindy. which would mean a-rod isnt making much

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 19, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont see the problem

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 19, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

me neither. contraction, anyone?

the only issue now is whether i make it out of hampton alive.

by Toonderstrook on Oct 19, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm speaking of the price, not the position.

2000 was the top of the stock market. 2007 was also the top of the stock market. (Coincidence that A-Rod contracts mark the peaks? He is the best player with, arguably, the best agent.)

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by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

he ended up getting Dotel money

which is pretty dang low for an at least average starting second baseman.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that's true.

MIs undervalued atm? more likely the market just hasn’t seen a talent it deems worth paying for.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 19, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're the one who thinks it's easy to find 2Bs in particular.

and i think the market, at least this offseason, certainly looks to bear that out. as we’ve discussed, the market is boring. a bunch of average players. orlando may well cash in but the rest of them are just fungible.

Kenny on the Phones - my favorite GM

by larry on Oct 19, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

im rooting for Boston as of yesterday

I cant take anymore of those fucking cowbells and dont want them messing up my World Series watchin’.

’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk

by e-gus on Oct 19, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree....

no more cowbell. Ever.

How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.

by Hoytsstash on Oct 19, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are both going directly to hell.

Flagged.

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Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 10, 2008 2:02 AM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 19, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't you still running......?

How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.

by Hoytsstash on Oct 19, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey cheat

thanks for not being a cheerleader like this drivel:
http://www.overthemonster.com/2008/10/19/638167/two-years-in-a-row-what-s

also
drink lots of fluids today ya lush

’’We have the horses. Everyone has to stay positive and keep grinding." -Kenny
"Its almost gotten to be obscene that we cant get a man in from third base." -Hawk

by e-gus on Oct 19, 2008 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

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