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October Baseball: Round 1: Game 1

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Chicago White Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays


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Chicago White Sox
@ Tampa Bay Rays

Thursday, Oct 2, 2008, 1:37 PM CDT
Tropicana Field

Javier Vazquez vs James Shields

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As I said in my preview, Javier Vazquez gets the game 1 start for the White Sox based on availability more than merit. To draw a parallel to the '05 playoffs, Tampa, by securing the league's best record not only has locked in home field advantage throughout the playoffs, but they've found themselves

Brushing Up On James Shields

First, a note: the Hopefully Useful Google Doc is a little screwy.  Kalk's algorithm, as I've said, struggles with defining fastball variants like the cutter and splitter.  if you check out the tool you'll see that there's a cutter listed that has more tail than the regular fastball.  I've decided to just scrap these which in turn has effed with the pitch percentages in the HUPGOOD.  This impacts the data too, obviously, as we're leaving out the fastballs with the most tail.  These are likely to be more groundball inducing than not, particularly against RHB.  So the ISO numbers for the fastball likely overstate the power possibilities made available by each pitch.  Okay, let's get to it.

The first thing that popped out to me was his change.  It might be the best RH change in the AL.  He throws it a ton against even RHB and, somehow, his K rate with the pitch is better against RHB.  Not that it sucks against LHB.  It's quite good.  Often you'll see with good changes that there is an accompanying risk factor: the HR.  Shields seems mostly to get away with this, with ISOs to both sides of the plate lower than .230. 

On top of this, he throws, if not a pure sinker, then at least a decent groundballing fastball.  This is that boring tail, part of which we lopped off with the cutter.  He can work with straight stuff very effectively and against both sides of the plate.  This bodes very badly for our club.  The only pitch/batter-handedness combo that yields an ISO above .300 is the slider against LHB, which he does throw with some frequency.  Hopefully the lefties can recognize and take advantage; his command of it does appear to be somewhat lacking relative to his other pitches which may in fact be the reason for the gopher ball problems for this pitch. 

Nonetheless, we're looking at a pitcher with only a few holes.  It's going to be tough sledding.  It will be critical to take pitches and try to get to the bullpen as Shields will likely shut us down as long as he's in.  We need to put high pitch counts on as many of their pitchers as possible; they've got a slight advantage in most facets of the game and the best way to eat into that without doing anything special is to control the plate.

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the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 12:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rofl

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 2, 2008 2:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a ray killed steve irwin...

THE RAYS CAN’T WIN! BAD KARMA…

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 2, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 good innings

All I want from Javy and then maybe some Clayton

by Option27 on Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unreleated, but...

Boy oh boy, ESPN really can’t let go of the whole Manny saga…

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=manny

by HulkSmash on Oct 2, 2008 12:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All of life's wisdom can be found in Clint Eastwood movies.

Today’s reading:

“Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.”

- The Outlaw Josey Wales

by The Actual El Guapo on Oct 2, 2008 12:43 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking more along the lines of everytime I heard people say the Sox don't deserve to be in the playoffs

“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”

-Unforgiven

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ten Bears likes his women fresh

If ya gots ta, take the old one there. She’s worth, mebbe, one donkey

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A brief moment of silence.

Looks like mjthor tracked down El Guapo this morning, broken beer bottle in hand.

The damage was quite severe.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 2, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Timing is everything.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 2, 2008 12:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

noooooooooo!!!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sup bitches

BUO in the game thread and the game doesn’t start for another 45 min!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:45 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Props. You are money.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 12:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At what cost?

You killed my killer intro.

You’re FIRED!

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh damnit

i dn what happened with that. i was editing in the game thread and had it set so it wouldn’t publish till 45.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was trying to find you online

you wuz gone. probably working your “real job”

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cheat looks like a tanned, thinner version

of a young Mark Spitz.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

cassowary?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whither Nick Swisher?

It will be critical to take pitches and try to get to the bullpen as Shields will likely shut us down as long as he’s in.

I would’ve liked Swisher over Wise, but then again, it’s tough to make a case for a guy who’s been OPSing ~.550 for the last month.

by CWSKeith on Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah i agree there.

but i don’t like Wise over Swish in the first place. this lineup is so much worse at taking pitches when Q and Swish are gone.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

danks moves up to game 3, secures advantage for white sox in series

————— October 2 -—————————
     Win DS Win CS Win WS Yesterday
LAA 27.3132 14.7438 7.9143 Lost 4-1, down 1-0
TB 47.0937 23.3092 13.2035
CWS 52.9063 20.2376 9.1403
BOS 72.6868 41.7094 24.5585 Won 4-1, up 1-0
CHC 38.2185 25.1185 13.6369 Lost 7-2, down 1-0
PHI 65.3790 26.6273 11.0080 Won 3-1, up 1-0
LAD 61.7815 33.4645 14.1342 Won 7-2, up 1-0
MIL 34.6210 14.7897 6.4043 Lost 3-1, down 1-0

I did make a change from yesterday; reviewing my notes, I found I had left out
a step I used in past years which regressed pitchers back to the man for their
teams, leading to some exaggerated responses. That plus yesterday’s results
push the Red Sox into the favorites role. Note the oddity that comes from a
matchup issue – Tampa is a slight underdog to Chicago in the first round, but
still more likely to survive the LCS.

————— October 1 -—————————
     Win DS Win CS Win WS Yesterday
LAA 45.9791 25.6393 12.5129
TB 51.5756 25.4336 12.8452
CWS 48.4244 15.3718 5.4360
BOS 54.0209 33.5553 19.4431
CHC 71.8831 53.4287 32.2881
PHI 45.2256 13.8896 5.0166
LAD 28.1169 14.0216 4.9657
MIL 54.7744 18.6601 7.4924

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/postseasonodds.php

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Sox are a pretty decent bet now.

kinda wanna throw down a tenner on them or something.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mr. Vegas.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like to call it

Lost Wages

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dare say you are screen shotting the eps where necessary

i was doing the same thing yesterday.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i view any time you say a line

as setting me up for the image

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glad to hear it

but do you have season 2?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i can pull it off

i haven’t seen all the episodes yet

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude you need to see all of season 2. it's fucking incredible.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when's the dvd come out

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i don't really understand

how they have a higher chance of winning the ALCS and WS when we have a higher chance of winning the ALDS

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

second round matchups are taken into consideration i assume

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i figured that much

it just kinda seems like ours should still be higher if they say we have a better chance of even making it to the ALCS

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just because we match up better with the rays doesn't mean the rays don't match up

better with the red sox

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And we're old.

Probably figure we’ll need a collective iron lung by then.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

P(They win the ALCS | they are in the ALCS) must be >> than P(We win the ALCS | We are in the ALCS)

Why so serious?

by reardenmettle on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why not?

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, BP comin' 'round...

My incendiary comments are having their desired effects!

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MAAAAAAAAAAATLOOOOOOOOOOCK

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be yelling a lot closer to the action than will you, AEG. And there will be no cloud to yell at.

Hopefully you’ll here something from your electronic device, as I will be breathing in stale, fetid air. Ah, live domed baseball. Nuthin’ like it.

You POS.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's one of my favorites. heehee

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fact: this is awesome.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That Rachel Ray picture is mind numbing

Must. Kill. Rays.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I prefer Samantha Brown.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAY I AM DUMPY AND STUPID LET'S GO TO FOREIGN PLACES

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like her cleavage

makes the show bearable.

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.

by thecip on Oct 2, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like watching her bend and preen to ensure it's visable at all times.

That’s fun. Because, you know, most people eat sandwiches on the grass with their chest at a 45% angle to the ground, and their head level.

by Dongfang Hong on Oct 2, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only Italian food

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it that from dexter or something?

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.

by thecip on Oct 2, 2008 1:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't know who that is

Google Giada de Laurentiis.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kinda saggy...

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's the freaking Food Network fer Q!sakes

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know

I trying to be funny.

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.

by thecip on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the best. Rec'd.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my favorite is the geometric ray

 the skeleton perplexes me however.

I must confess, my given name is Raymond.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ray Harryhausen

did stop motion animation in the 50s and 60s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Harryhausen

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.

by thecip on Oct 2, 2008 1:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah

I remember reading an interview with him in this compendium of onion av club. He seemed pretty cool.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow - very obscure.

What about Ray Milland? Hell, “Lost Weekend” is a primer for half of this site.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hell no. that is grand.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

certain victory

while waiting at the bus stop to take me to my apartment to watch this momentous game, I was reading my new copy of the Onion to pass the time. While reading a humorous “In Breif” article entitled “Man With Food In Beard Saying Something About Climate Change,” a gorgeous Monarch Butterfly landed right upon the paper. i was immediately fascinated with the creature, which remained for nearly 2 minutes upon it’s papery perch, and was overwhelmed with a sense of serenity and certainty. I beleive I even heard the creature softly whisper “sox in four…. sox in four.”

This is an omen.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:08 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fav. Onion Headline...

“Pope Forgives Molested Children”

by RoyEgan on Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my favorite was an editorial

“If the heat doesn’t kill the elderly, I will”

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Always appreciated

“African-American Community Terrorized by Ask Murderer”

But then again, maybe I’m an old bitter racist like wu

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great title, BP.

And I don’t hate you – just Baseball Prospectus/NS.

You POS.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why do you hate BP/NS?

the opposite of matlock, i assume.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ranting agin' their anti-Sox bias.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 2, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what? the fact that it doesn't exist?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are awfully strong anti-Nate-Silver emotions

that I do not quite understand. I mean, I know PECOTA hasn’t been kind to us, but…

by Dongfang Hong on Oct 2, 2008 1:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1) nate silver is a communist.
2) BP molests children.
3) christina kahrl switches teams.
4) they’re smarter than us.
5) they’re computers.

need i go on?

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it worked for me

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

white sox are plasma TVs

or maybe 3rd generation LCDs

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.

by thecip on Oct 2, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

flat and clear

not fat and fuzzy.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:19 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, Colin.

Short, to the point. I appreciate it.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 2, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't want to get too subtle

we’re sports fans, not theater fags.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that excessive use of "fag" is for MM

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am skipping

My “acting for non theater majors” class to watch this game.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm in

intro to world theater right now.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so.....

can’t it be both?

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh yeah.

we’re sports fans AND theater fags! woot!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a math test i have to go to at 2....

imma fly through it and get back as fast as i can

by Jbasic89 on Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

give a handy to a doc

and get a note. you got to have priorities.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm praying for a quick game

i have a dissection at 4

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:26 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

btw, i'm going to the same bar

i’ll try to get the same seat and perhaps the same drinks. i ran up quite the tab last time though.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick's?

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as time goes by...

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The one in AA is much classier

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hear they've actually opened a "replica" in casablanca.

i’m sure the tourists love it.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the arena

on washington. edmund fitzgerald on tap.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MLB.tv is blacking out the game

and I’m stuck in my office, so I’m trying this TBS Hot Corner deal. I have no clue what to expect.

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Umps for the series

HP: Joe West
1B: CB Bucknor (yuck)
2B: Ron Kulpa
3B: Jeff Kellogg
LF: Gary Darling
RF: Eric Cooper

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CO, LSSGDFR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fuck cowbells

serioously.

worse than thundersticks

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um 52 mph on Gameday?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously

please no more commercials

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they have a cool K-zone

on the TBS hot corner thing

The 1-0 to Dye was far outside

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought the first pitch of the game was way outside

but mlb gameday shows it right down the middle.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this thing also

has 4 camera angles, but none follow the ball, so I have no clue what’s happening most of the time

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Javy Dent time!

This will be entertaining to say the least.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me too

and yet gameday shows it way outside.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 2, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 pitches

2 outs?

No arguing here

by Option27 on Oct 2, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh plz become free-swingers

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fairweather

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where's ssh to call you pathetic.

gaping hole in this site since he left.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more like our gaping hole left

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

8 more no exceptions

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey

I don’t know if I can handle seeing Javy pitch past the 6th

by Option27 on Oct 2, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gas

just the pitch stoney called for, as did i.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has pena ever done shit to us this year?

Maybe it’s just my memory, but he seems to k every fucking at bat against the sox.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

High fastballs are a cold, hard bitch

Chicago White Sox Examiner—Your What Hurts?
http://www.examiner.com/x-425-Chicago-White-Sox-Examiner

by UribeAuction on Oct 2, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their home crowd gives off the atmosphere of a crowded library

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vasquez looks fucking well up for it

got that ‘up yours you fucking wanker’ look in his eyes

I approve byw

regards

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 2, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn why can't Gameday and TBS be synced

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

time for junior to sack up.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't be a bitch jr

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 2, 2008 1:53 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Edmund Fitzgerald on draft.

I’m ready to go.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

iseewhatyoudidthere

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kind of felt set up for it

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i set em up

you knocks em down! wakka wakka wakka

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

under.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

18 right now

I’ll go with over

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IM PLANTING A SEED

IM PLANNING TO SEEEEEE YOUU

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why swing at ball 4?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he doesn't want to get yanked for a PR

it’s a pride thing

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

brutal

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good pitching, or terrible hitting?

i’m leaning toward the latter for both sides

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That should have been a walk to Griffey

Patience would be nice since it doesn’t exist in the 7,8,9 and usually 1,2 hitters.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swung at ball 4 twice

Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.

by vince_ on Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah that 88 mpher up in the zone?

wtf Ancient Mariner? wtf.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was not my favorite at bat.

that change is devastating.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i missed the first

but yeah i hear bad things.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the fuck is frank calidontmakemestabyou doing on tv?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doesn't Jr know he's supposed to bat like he fields

stand there motionless until somebody tells him to move…. This whole swinging his arms thing is getting in the way of walks.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

balls

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fucking shit....javy

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh fuck

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

c'mon Javy, wtf

you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?

by ChicagoPete on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Expected

but not this early

by Option27 on Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well that sucks balls.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

first pitch

right in his wheelhouse

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well maybe he just needed to get it out of his system?

Smooth sailing from here on out!

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's the spirit.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

spirits?

yeah, we should break some out.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's established this team is at is best when it seems hopeless

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one run man

that’s fuck all

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm guessing the game is over.

though ssh isn’t here to confirm that for me. i guess we’ll just have to watch the rest of the game to find out.

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is just merely the consolation bracket anyways

Was in St. Paul the other day, the 1000 foot statue erected celebrating their great championship run is really neat.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

link?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?v=2&id=868684&url=reflector%3A38315&gid=2008_10_02_chamlb_tbamlb_1&vid=tbs&header=tbs&panel=1&mid=200809253550049

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuckin crazy

it’s hard to figure out what to watch.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's ridiculous.

Dreamed up by someone who doesn’t know how video should work.

by expatnyc on Oct 2, 2008 2:04 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THEY AREN'T EVEN IN SYNC?!?!

fuckin hell, who designed that shit?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very

I have the mosaic thing going and I sort of know what’s happening

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just following the batter cam and keeping Gameday open

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My God...it's full of stars...

Seriously, I cannot comprehend that much information.

by Dongfang Hong on Oct 2, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crawford

hadn’t batted in 2 months, he looks like shit

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vaz has looked okay...

Longoria just absolutely hammered that

by Craig Grebeck on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Longoria

is really, really good. Has a Mike Schmidt vibe

by Bull Pain on Oct 2, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see Che get a shot to one-up him

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 ks

hes cool, guys

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is going to be one of those 10 K, 2 BB 5 run

6 IP games.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not even a little.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They'll get it back

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCKFUCK

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we've never seen that before.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lame

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Idiots

That was Wise’s the whole way

by Option27 on Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he didn't know

and apparently didn’t see it.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should be the LF's ball

wise should’ve had it. and should call out if he can’t see it. i’ve got it on mute – what’s the noise situation?

the sox out-talled their opponent.

by larry on Oct 2, 2008 2:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quiet as hell minus the 2 hits and Griffey K

So a typical home crowd.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 2, 2008 2:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs