October Baseball: Round 1: Game 1
Chicago White Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays
As I said in my preview, Javier Vazquez gets the game 1 start for the White Sox based on availability more than merit. To draw a parallel to the '05 playoffs, Tampa, by securing the league's best record not only has locked in home field advantage throughout the playoffs, but they've found themselves
Brushing Up On James Shields
First, a note: the Hopefully Useful Google Doc is a little screwy. Kalk's algorithm, as I've said, struggles with defining fastball variants like the cutter and splitter. if you check out the tool you'll see that there's a cutter listed that has more tail than the regular fastball. I've decided to just scrap these which in turn has effed with the pitch percentages in the HUPGOOD. This impacts the data too, obviously, as we're leaving out the fastballs with the most tail. These are likely to be more groundball inducing than not, particularly against RHB. So the ISO numbers for the fastball likely overstate the power possibilities made available by each pitch. Okay, let's get to it.
The first thing that popped out to me was his change. It might be the best RH change in the AL. He throws it a ton against even RHB and, somehow, his K rate with the pitch is better against RHB. Not that it sucks against LHB. It's quite good. Often you'll see with good changes that there is an accompanying risk factor: the HR. Shields seems mostly to get away with this, with ISOs to both sides of the plate lower than .230.
On top of this, he throws, if not a pure sinker, then at least a decent groundballing fastball. This is that boring tail, part of which we lopped off with the cutter. He can work with straight stuff very effectively and against both sides of the plate. This bodes very badly for our club. The only pitch/batter-handedness combo that yields an ISO above .300 is the slider against LHB, which he does throw with some frequency. Hopefully the lefties can recognize and take advantage; his command of it does appear to be somewhat lacking relative to his other pitches which may in fact be the reason for the gopher ball problems for this pitch.
Nonetheless, we're looking at a pitcher with only a few holes. It's going to be tough sledding. It will be critical to take pitches and try to get to the bullpen as Shields will likely shut us down as long as he's in. We need to put high pitch counts on as many of their pitchers as possible; they've got a slight advantage in most facets of the game and the best way to eat into that without doing anything special is to control the plate.
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rofl
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Oct 2, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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a ray killed steve irwin...
THE RAYS CAN’T WIN! BAD KARMA…
"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11
term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Oct 2, 2008 2:18 PM CDT
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5 good innings
All I want from Javy and then maybe some Clayton
by Option27 on
Oct 2, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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Unreleated, but...
Boy oh boy, ESPN really can’t let go of the whole Manny saga…
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Oct 2, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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All of life's wisdom can be found in Clint Eastwood movies.
Today’s reading:
“Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.”
- The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Oct 2, 2008 12:43 PM CDT
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I was thinking more along the lines of everytime I heard people say the Sox don't deserve to be in the playoffs
“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”
-Unforgiven
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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Hmm, I am unfamiliar with that particular quote.
by The Actual El Guapo on
Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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Ten Bears likes his women fresh
If ya gots ta, take the old one there. She’s worth, mebbe, one donkey
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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A brief moment of silence.
Looks like mjthor tracked down El Guapo this morning, broken beer bottle in hand.
The damage was quite severe.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 2, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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Timing is everything.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:44 PM CDT
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noooooooooo!!!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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sup bitches
BUO in the game thread and the game doesn’t start for another 45 min!
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:45 PM CDT
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Props. You are money.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 12:46 PM CDT
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At what cost?
You killed my killer intro.
You’re FIRED!
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CDT
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i was trying to find you online
you wuz gone. probably working your “real job”
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:51 PM CDT
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Cheat looks like a tanned, thinner version
of a young Mark Spitz.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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cassowary?
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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looks a bit small to be one
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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dunno what it is, but it's fast
YOINK!
by scott b on
Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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btw i'm a big fan of your gifs
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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Whither Nick Swisher?
It will be critical to take pitches and try to get to the bullpen as Shields will likely shut us down as long as he’s in.
I would’ve liked Swisher over Wise, but then again, it’s tough to make a case for a guy who’s been OPSing ~.550 for the last month.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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yeah i agree there.
but i don’t like Wise over Swish in the first place. this lineup is so much worse at taking pitches when Q and Swish are gone.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM CDT
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danks moves up to game 3, secures advantage for white sox in series
————— October 2 -—————————
Win DS Win CS Win WS Yesterday
LAA 27.3132 14.7438 7.9143 Lost 4-1, down 1-0
TB 47.0937 23.3092 13.2035
CWS 52.9063 20.2376 9.1403
BOS 72.6868 41.7094 24.5585 Won 4-1, up 1-0
CHC 38.2185 25.1185 13.6369 Lost 7-2, down 1-0
PHI 65.3790 26.6273 11.0080 Won 3-1, up 1-0
LAD 61.7815 33.4645 14.1342 Won 7-2, up 1-0
MIL 34.6210 14.7897 6.4043 Lost 3-1, down 1-0
I did make a change from yesterday; reviewing my notes, I found I had left out
a step I used in past years which regressed pitchers back to the man for their
teams, leading to some exaggerated responses. That plus yesterday’s results
push the Red Sox into the favorites role. Note the oddity that comes from a
matchup issue – Tampa is a slight underdog to Chicago in the first round, but
still more likely to survive the LCS.
————— October 1 -—————————
Win DS Win CS Win WS Yesterday
LAA 45.9791 25.6393 12.5129
TB 51.5756 25.4336 12.8452
CWS 48.4244 15.3718 5.4360
BOS 54.0209 33.5553 19.4431
CHC 71.8831 53.4287 32.2881
PHI 45.2256 13.8896 5.0166
LAD 28.1169 14.0216 4.9657
MIL 54.7744 18.6601 7.4924
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/postseasonodds.php
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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the Sox are a pretty decent bet now.
kinda wanna throw down a tenner on them or something.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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Mr. Vegas.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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i like to call it
Lost Wages
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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i dare say you are screen shotting the eps where necessary
i was doing the same thing yesterday.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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i view any time you say a line
as setting me up for the image
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Oct 2, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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glad to hear it
but do you have season 2?
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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i can pull it off
i haven’t seen all the episodes yet
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Oct 2, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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dude you need to see all of season 2. it's fucking incredible.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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when's the dvd come out
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Oct 2, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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i don't really understand
how they have a higher chance of winning the ALCS and WS when we have a higher chance of winning the ALDS
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Oct 2, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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second round matchups are taken into consideration i assume
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM CDT
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i figured that much
it just kinda seems like ours should still be higher if they say we have a better chance of even making it to the ALCS
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
by U-God on
Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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just because we match up better with the rays doesn't mean the rays don't match up
better with the red sox
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM CDT
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And we're old.
Probably figure we’ll need a collective iron lung by then.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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P(They win the ALCS | they are in the ALCS) must be >> than P(We win the ALCS | We are in the ALCS)
Why so serious?
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Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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Ah, BP comin' 'round...
My incendiary comments are having their desired effects!
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
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Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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It's been used before, but as good a time to whip it out now as any:

by The Actual El Guapo on
Oct 2, 2008 12:59 PM CDT
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MAAAAAAAAAAATLOOOOOOOOOOCK
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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I'll be yelling a lot closer to the action than will you, AEG. And there will be no cloud to yell at.
Hopefully you’ll here something from your electronic device, as I will be breathing in stale, fetid air. Ah, live domed baseball. Nuthin’ like it.
You POS.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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Hey, I can see you on Gameday!
(waving frenetically at computer screen)
by The Actual El Guapo on
Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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that's one of my favorites. heehee
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on
Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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DESTROY

Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
by thecip on
Oct 2, 2008 1:00 PM CDT
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fact: this is awesome.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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That Rachel Ray picture is mind numbing
Must. Kill. Rays.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 1:04 PM CDT
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I prefer Samantha Brown.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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HAY I AM DUMPY AND STUPID LET'S GO TO FOREIGN PLACES

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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT
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Nowhere near as infuriating as Giada.
by Dongfang Hong on
Oct 2, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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i like her cleavage
makes the show bearable.
Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
by thecip on
Oct 2, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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I like watching her bend and preen to ensure it's visable at all times.
That’s fun. Because, you know, most people eat sandwiches on the grass with their chest at a 45% angle to the ground, and their head level.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:12 PM CDT
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Only Italian food

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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it that from dexter or something?
Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
by thecip on
Oct 2, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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You don't know who that is
Google Giada de Laurentiis.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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Kinda saggy...
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
by winningugly on
Oct 2, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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Plus, se has an enormous head and tiny body.
She looks like a fucking popsicle.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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It's the freaking Food Network fer Q!sakes
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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Oct 2, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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half the rachel ray google images are photoshops(?) of her ass
pretty cool
Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
by thecip on
Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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If I'm looking at the same GIS, those are real, from an FHM shoot a while back.
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cuz this screams real

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Oct 2, 2008 1:14 PM CDT
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Rachel Ray
I feel like I would hate her if I knew anyhting about her or her show.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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you dont even know....
the is one of the easiest people to hate ever
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Oct 2, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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One of the best. Rec'd.
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my favorite is the geometric ray
the skeleton perplexes me however.
I must confess, my given name is Raymond.
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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Ray Harryhausen
did stop motion animation in the 50s and 60s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Harryhausen
Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
by thecip on
Oct 2, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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Ah
I remember reading an interview with him in this compendium of onion av club. He seemed pretty cool.
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:17 PM CDT
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Wow - very obscure.
What about Ray Milland? Hell, “Lost Weekend” is a primer for half of this site.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
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His best work is "Clash of the Titans"
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Oct 2, 2008 1:24 PM CDT
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apparently there's gonna be a remake
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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hell no. that is grand.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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certain victory
while waiting at the bus stop to take me to my apartment to watch this momentous game, I was reading my new copy of the Onion to pass the time. While reading a humorous “In Breif” article entitled “Man With Food In Beard Saying Something About Climate Change,” a gorgeous Monarch Butterfly landed right upon the paper. i was immediately fascinated with the creature, which remained for nearly 2 minutes upon it’s papery perch, and was overwhelmed with a sense of serenity and certainty. I beleive I even heard the creature softly whisper “sox in four…. sox in four.”
This is an omen.
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Fav. Onion Headline...
“Pope Forgives Molested Children”
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my favorite was an editorial
“If the heat doesn’t kill the elderly, I will”
Lurking since 2006
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Oct 2, 2008 1:11 PM CDT
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Always appreciated
“African-American Community Terrorized by Ask Murderer”
But then again, maybe I’m an old bitter racist like wu
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Great title, BP.
And I don’t hate you – just Baseball Prospectus/NS.
You POS.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
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why do you hate BP/NS?
the opposite of matlock, i assume.
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Ranting agin' their anti-Sox bias.
No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5
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Oct 2, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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Which I have always been confused by.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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what? the fact that it doesn't exist?
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There are awfully strong anti-Nate-Silver emotions
that I do not quite understand. I mean, I know PECOTA hasn’t been kind to us, but…
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1) nate silver is a communist.
2) BP molests children.
3) christina kahrl switches teams.
4) they’re smarter than us.
5) they’re computers.
need i go on?
the sox out-talled their opponent.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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"Study finds Binge Drinking is a blast!"
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
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Paul McCartney's Mix-CD For New Girlfriend A Little Self-Indulgent
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Oct 2, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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"Members Of Twisted Sister Now Willing To Take It"
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Fiona Apple Song Reminds Girl To Be Depressed
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english beef cleared for irish consumption.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Oct 2, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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school shooting solves all of troubled youth's problems
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Oct 2, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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it worked for me
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Oct 2, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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white sox are plasma TVs
or maybe 3rd generation LCDs
Ceterum censeo Minneainem esse delendam.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:19 PM CDT
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flat and clear
not fat and fuzzy.
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by colintj on
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Thanks, Colin.
Short, to the point. I appreciate it.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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don't want to get too subtle
we’re sports fans, not theater fags.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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that excessive use of "fag" is for MM
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Oct 2, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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I am skipping
My “acting for non theater majors” class to watch this game.
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Oct 2, 2008 1:20 PM CDT
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i'm in
intro to world theater right now.
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so.....
can’t it be both?
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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i have a math test i have to go to at 2....
imma fly through it and get back as fast as i can
by Jbasic89 on
Oct 2, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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give a handy to a doc
and get a note. you got to have priorities.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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i'm praying for a quick game
i have a dissection at 4
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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Oct 2, 2008 1:26 PM CDT
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whenever I use this word here winningugly chastises me...
i feel singled out
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that's because, for one, i threw in a caveat already
for two, everyone here thinks i’m gay anyway.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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I fyou haven't yet posted a picture of bacon covered boobs
I would assume at least bisexuality
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Oct 2, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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btw, i'm going to the same bar
i’ll try to get the same seat and perhaps the same drinks. i ran up quite the tab last time though.
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by colintj on
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Rick's?
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:43 PM CDT
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as time goes by...
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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The one in AA is much classier
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:45 PM CDT
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i hear they've actually opened a "replica" in casablanca.
i’m sure the tourists love it.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT
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Can't miss it, in the casbah - right next door to Bennigans
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by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:50 PM CDT
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the arena
on washington. edmund fitzgerald on tap.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT
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Bell's Oktoberfest is usually out around this time of year too
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by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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MLB.tv is blacking out the game
and I’m stuck in my office, so I’m trying this TBS Hot Corner deal. I have no clue what to expect.
by Bull Pain on
Oct 2, 2008 1:31 PM CDT
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Is there no gameday?
Why so serious?
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Oct 2, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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Umps for the series
HP: Joe West
1B: CB Bucknor (yuck)
2B: Ron Kulpa
3B: Jeff Kellogg
LF: Gary Darling
RF: Eric Cooper
by Bull Pain on
Oct 2, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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CO, LSSGDFR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 2, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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Fuck cowbells
serioously.
worse than thundersticks
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by boyonthedock on
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Um 52 mph on Gameday?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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they have a cool K-zone
on the TBS hot corner thing
The 1-0 to Dye was far outside
by Bull Pain on
Oct 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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i thought the first pitch of the game was way outside
but mlb gameday shows it right down the middle.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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this thing also
has 4 camera angles, but none follow the ball, so I have no clue what’s happening most of the time
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Javy Dent time!
This will be entertaining to say the least.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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i thought javys first pitch was a strike
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me too
and yet gameday shows it way outside.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Oct 2, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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I like two-pitch outs
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
by vince_ on
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I like one-pitch outs better
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
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pssh
i prefer -1 pitch outs
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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i like it when they just bolt towards first without even seeing a pitch.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
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that's grindy
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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at least the rays are hittin' like the sox
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:46 PM CDT
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Oh plz become free-swingers
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Fairweather
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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where's ssh to call you pathetic.
gaping hole in this site since he left.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 1:49 PM CDT
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more like our gaping hole left
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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8 more no exceptions
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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gas
just the pitch stoney called for, as did i.
brian anderson would've caught that...
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Oct 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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Has pena ever done shit to us this year?
Maybe it’s just my memory, but he seems to k every fucking at bat against the sox.
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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High fastballs are a cold, hard bitch
Chicago White Sox Examiner—Your What Hurts?
http://www.examiner.com/x-425-Chicago-White-Sox-Examiner
by UribeAuction on
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ok, it took me forever to find those.
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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I just use the player's yahoo page
go to split stats and it has a ton of stuff
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Their home crowd gives off the atmosphere of a crowded library
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Vasquez looks fucking well up for it
got that ‘up yours you fucking wanker’ look in his eyes
I approve byw
regards
marching on together
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Damn why can't Gameday and TBS be synced
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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time for junior to sack up.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
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yeah, i don't really want to see the rays bullpen, either, guys.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
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Apparently both sides believe that the team with the fewest pitches seen per plate appearance
wins
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
by vince_ on
Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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don't be a bitch jr
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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Edmund Fitzgerald on draft.
I’m ready to go.
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT
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getting wrecked off of edmund fitzgeralds?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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iseewhatyoudidthere
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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kind of felt set up for it
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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i set em up
you knocks em down! wakka wakka wakka
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by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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over/under on 25 pitches through the first sox nine
the sox out-talled their opponent.
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18 right now
I’ll go with over
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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IM PLANTING A SEED
IM PLANNING TO SEEEEEE YOUU
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by colintj on
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Why swing at ball 4?
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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he doesn't want to get yanked for a PR
it’s a pride thing
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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brutal
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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good pitching, or terrible hitting?
i’m leaning toward the latter for both sides
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That should have been a walk to Griffey
Patience would be nice since it doesn’t exist in the 7,8,9 and usually 1,2 hitters.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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Swung at ball 4 twice
Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.
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yeah that 88 mpher up in the zone?
wtf Ancient Mariner? wtf.
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by colintj on
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that was not my favorite at bat.
that change is devastating.
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by colintj on
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I think out of all of them so far
That WAS my favorite at bat
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i missed the first
but yeah i hear bad things.
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what the fuck is frank calidontmakemestabyou doing on tv?
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Doesn't Jr know he's supposed to bat like he fields
stand there motionless until somebody tells him to move…. This whole swinging his arms thing is getting in the way of walks.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Oct 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT
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balls
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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fucking shit....javy
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
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Oh fuck
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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c'mon Javy, wtf
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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well that sucks balls.
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by colintj on
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Well maybe he just needed to get it out of his system?
Smooth sailing from here on out!
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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that's the spirit.
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on
Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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was hoping we'd be the ones to get an early lead and make them sweat a little
oh well
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
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It's established this team is at is best when it seems hopeless
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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woah guys, one solo shot
its early
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by boyonthedock on
Oct 2, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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one run man
that’s fuck all
marching on together
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i'm guessing the game is over.
though ssh isn’t here to confirm that for me. i guess we’ll just have to watch the rest of the game to find out.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
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This is just merely the consolation bracket anyways
Was in St. Paul the other day, the 1000 foot statue erected celebrating their great championship run is really neat.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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i thought the sox were just barnstorming?
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
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link?
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"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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fuckin crazy
it’s hard to figure out what to watch.
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by colintj on
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It's ridiculous.
Dreamed up by someone who doesn’t know how video should work.
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THEY AREN'T EVEN IN SYNC?!?!
fuckin hell, who designed that shit?
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by colintj on
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very
I have the mosaic thing going and I sort of know what’s happening
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I'm just following the batter cam and keeping Gameday open
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by Ozzie Montana on
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is it like the hot wings i had for lunch?
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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My God...it's full of stars...
Seriously, I cannot comprehend that much information.
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Crawford
hadn’t batted in 2 months, he looks like shit
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Vaz has looked okay...
Longoria just absolutely hammered that
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Longoria
is really, really good. Has a Mike Schmidt vibe
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I can't wait to see Che get a shot to one-up him
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2 ks
hes cool, guys
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just banned myself from watching the game
first pitch i saw was the HR, fuck this shit, gameday it is
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way to take one for the team.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
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sox first, or osfib first i ask you
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he puts them on his back
osfib=uribe
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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let's not get carried away now
i’m ’bout as humble as a motherfuck
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dedication right there
"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."
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this is going to be one of those 10 K, 2 BB 5 run
6 IP games.
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not even a little.
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They'll get it back
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
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FUCKFUCK
brian anderson would've caught that...
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we've never seen that before.
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Lame
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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he didn't know
and apparently didn’t see it.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Oct 2, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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OCab acted like he was called off of it - he put on the brakes and looked at Wise
you're full of shit and you’re old. how do you plead?
by ChicagoPete on
Oct 2, 2008 2:07 PM CDT
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should be the LF's ball
wise should’ve had it. and should call out if he can’t see it. i’ve got it on mute – what’s the noise situation?
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 2:08 PM CDT
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Quiet as hell minus the 2 hits and Griffey K
So a typical home crowd.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Oct 2, 2008 2:09 PM CDT
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hmmm. well, goldstein on the BP chat seems to think wise called for it.
the sox out-talled their opponent.
by larry on
Oct 2, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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