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Who Wins the Series?

Baseball Analysts polled their contributors for their World Series predictions. The results were decidedly one-sided.

Of our 32 entrants, 26 are going with Tampa Bay and only six with Philadelphia. Nobody is predicting a sweep, three (Hulet, Langill, and Neyer) see the Rays taking the Phillies in five games, 12 are picking TB in six, and ten see the AL champs needing all seven games to win it all. Among the half-dozen PHI supporters, 50% believe the NL champs will beat back the Rays in six and 50% think it will go the full seven.

I'd tend to agree with them. Hamels is good for at least one game (maybe two) for the Phils, but the Rays have the advantage in the other pitching matchups. They'll take another game outside the Hamels starts, but I don't think it will be enough. Rays in 6.5.

Poll
World Series?
Rays in 4
3 votes
Rays in 5
21 votes
Rays in 6
38 votes
Rays in 7
7 votes
Phillies in 7
3 votes
Phillies in 6
14 votes
Phillies in 5
2 votes
Phillies in 4
3 votes

91 votes | Poll has closed

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Since it is so one-sided,

I gotta go with the Fils. I feel Ricky Roma gets it right this time.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 22, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

silly wu

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does the Total not match the sum of the other 3 categories?

In a lot of them they do, but some (Like Konerko’s and a lot of others at the bottom) do not match up.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Oct 22, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

rounding.

"winning tacos for America was pretty cool too."

by larry on Oct 22, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Justin puts a lower limit on the defensive value of each player...

… equal to the defensive value of the DH. I don’t agree with that, but I didn’t realize he started doing that until I’d finished getting the numbers ready to go. Eh, sorry.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 22, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope it's Ray in 6

Then my good buddy can see the Rays win in person.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Oct 22, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

rays in six...i'm working on world series preview that i should have done by after the game tonight....i'm writing it for my school paper

but i’ll probably post it here too….MM/furbs bitchezzzz

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 22, 2008 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

School paper?

Nice. I also write for my school paper. I’m the sports editor.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Oct 22, 2008 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

smart politics

not picking a horse until he can figure out who will come out ahead

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 22, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i have it mostly done dude

gotta edit and add in a few things

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 22, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never watch ATH

but if anyone caught today’s episode, can you tell me what’s going on with Mariotti’s hair? It looks like he’s wearing am oversized yarmulke made from the freshly shorn fur of Portuguese water dog.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 22, 2008 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

that's really how you spell yarmulke?

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

is a yarmulke one of these?

"now that my friend is a clear cut case of him or me. and you best believe it ain't gonna be me."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 22, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

lids for yids

To be born an Englishman is to win first
prize in the lottery of life

by hoodlight on Oct 22, 2008 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll me damned

I did as my 1st grade teacher told me, when it doubt, sound it out.

Yah-mik-a. Guess she’s a lying whore.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Oct 22, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

and that bitch still owes me fifty bucks!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 22, 2008 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

my first grade teacher was the first adult i ever called by their first name

which promptly led to me being dragged out of the classroom by my arm

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

for quite some time

Jodie was not too happy with me

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

zobrist starting in RF instead of baldelli

seems odd.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 22, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

rays trying to drive baldelli's price down so he stays in tampa.

"now that my friend is a clear cut case of him or me. and you best believe it ain't gonna be me."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 22, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's tired.

Let’s sign him. Can’t get up for Game One of the World Series. Where do I sign?

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 22, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

chicks dig platoon outfielders.

"now that my friend is a clear cut case of him or me. and you best believe it ain't gonna be me."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

why. seems like a better matchup to me.

"winning tacos for America was pretty cool too."

by larry on Oct 22, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way does that guy get any kind of serious deal this offseason.

who would say that, anyways? that’s, that’s just crazy.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Oct 22, 2008 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think i'll turn off the sound on the tv

and listen on xm channel 188 which will be playing the japanese broadcast. it’s gotta be more entertaining and less annoying than buck and mccarver.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 22, 2008 5:35 PM CDT reply actions  

only if you match up the sound to mccarver and buck's mouths when they show them

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Oct 22, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamie Moyer and Blanton vs Upton/Pena/Longoria/Crawford....what could go wrong?!

I agree, Hamels gets 1 win somehow, and Philly could possibly get a ballpark-aided victory as well. However, Rays have the dominant pitching, and the layoff for the Phillies’ offense does them no good.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 22, 2008 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Limited usefulness of batting average
Here are three AL players:

BA OBA SLG
.223 .326 .393
.225 .319 .400
.275 .326 .400

Some people still believe that if you have two players with equal OPS, but one has a higher BA, that the one with the higher BA is more valuable. They believe this despite the fact that more sophisticated run estimators show them to be of nearly identical value, with an edge for the lower BA if anything (with the caveat that we are considering a normal environment in the modern major leagues). This is illustrated by these player’s RGs, which are 4.45, 4.51, and 4.43 respectively. Not that I intend this to prove anything, but the players’ (R + RBI)/Out are .32, .33, and .31 respectively. (R + RBI – HR)/Out are .29, .28, .27.

You should always remember that if you have identical OPS but varying BA, the player with the lower BA has a better combination of secondary skills. Incidentally, the players are Brandon Boggs, Gary Sheffield, and Billy Butler.

http://walksaber.blogspot.com/2008/10/meanderings.html

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/limited_usefulness_of_batting_average/


also

How accurate is OPS? http://www.tangotiger.net/ops2.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 22, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Andruw Jones wants to be traded from the Dodgers
Jones has told friends that he plans to approach the Dodgers and ask them to trade him. After hiding their excitement, the Dodgers will then have to find a suitor and determine how much of the $22.1 million they still owe him that they’ll have to eat.

Jones’ first choice would likely be to return home to the Braves. But even at a cost of $2 million, the Braves likely aren’t going to be willing to accommodate this homecoming. While hitting .158 with three homers and 14 RBIs in 75 games this past season, Jones said he was bothered by a sore knee. Members of the Braves organization said that he was bothered by the same knee discomfort during his days in Atlanta.

Some might say that could explain why he hit .222 for the Braves in 2007. But others will tell you that Jones’ swing started going wrong earlier this decade and now he’s facing the embarrassment that might have been avoided had he simply ended his stubborn, pull-happy ways.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/andruw_jones_wants_to_be_traded_from_the_dodgers/


how about it? clearly, walker can fix his swing

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 22, 2008 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

N.Y. Baseball Digest: Report: Yanks Have Interest in Aaron Rowand
Our sources down in Tampa have informed us that the Yankees will be exploring trade possibilities with the Giants for center fielder Aaron Rowand. It is pretty well known that the Giants are interested in upgrading their hitting, which was anemic at times last season, and the Yankees could send a package of players for the speedy outfielder.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/ny_baseball_digest_report_yanks_have_interest_in_aaron_rowand/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 22, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll never forget the day I sat at Comiskular, during a beating from the Giants, where I vowed to never make fun of Rowand again if he just hit a home run. (2002, maybe?)

He did – and it barely cleared the left field wall and put us about 10 runs behind instead of 11, or some crap like that.

But anyway, I find it quite comical how he went from the guy I used to say looked like a penis with a goatee, to a hot commodity in the baseball world.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

holy crap.

larry! aren’t you proud of me!!?

I found the exact game I was talking about: June 11, 2003

on br, nonetheless! you know how well I navigate that site!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 22, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he has every reason to be pissed.

Um, well, I can’t think one off-hand, but goddamn it, someone is surely exploiting him.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 22, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAH!

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 22, 2008 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phillies in 6

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 22, 2008 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

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