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Q!nicorn Droppings: Say Goodbye to General Soreness and Toby Edition

  • UPDATE: KGJr and The Piemaster have options declined.  Surprised Toby isn't back.  Cole Armstrong is probably not ready and is left-handed, so doesn't make much sense as an AJ backup.  Sox fans are lucky that Jim is around since he's made the backup catcher a pet project of his.  He'll have something more in-depth pretty shortly I'd bet.

    [Note by The Cheat, 10/30/08 2:57 PM CDT]: Declining the option on Hall doesn't neccessarily put an end to his time on the south side. Much like we saw last off-season when Uribe's option was declined, the Sox may still have some intent in keeping him around at a lower cost. Though, usually such events happen in rapid succession so as not to leave a player hanging in the wind.

  • Getting A Competitive World Series - Tango looks at creating a different structure for the playoffs with an actually competitive World Series matchup in mind.  There's talk of abandoning the AL and NL as well as turning to a "Home Manager Picks DH/No DH" and all sorts of fun stuff.  Personally, I think the current structure of the league is pretty bizarre and if the Brewers can be in the NL then I can imagine a world where the AL and NL are dissolved. 
  • BtB Decries Lack of Pujols - The combination of talent and relative obscurity in which Albert plies his trade is a testament to how badly the talking heads mangle the reality they purport to describe.  David Byrne should be ashamed by association.
  • Jim Talks Alexei and Jose - Hopefully you've already read this as Sox Machine is obviously awesome.  Jim details how Alexei came to be a member of the squad thanks at least in part to Jose Contreras.  KW, it turns out, never intended to send Alexei to the minor leagues in order to ensure Alexei was able to adapt to living in the States.  Contreras was tasked with the mentor and advocate role.
  • A Mechanical Model of Pitching - THT examines the impact of the hand and fingers in changing the shape of the ball's flight.  If you haven't pitched or were wondering exactly what's at work behind the transition from grip to movement and velocity, it's a great primer.  I wish there were more diagrams and that he talked about pronation and the sinker, but they are kind of implied by the basics anyway.
  • Royals Acquire Mike Jacobs For Some Reason - Royals Review examines the acquisition made by The Traditional AL Central Doormat and wonders why.  Other observers have done the same.  The cost was a relief arm, so that's unlikely to be a major loss, but for a team that's got Billy Butler and Kila Kaaihue, there's opportunity cost if Jacobs is getting at bats over cheaper and higher potential players.  He's also a liability at first as Chone's projections have him at 8 runs below average.  Konerko is a -3, for comparison.  For the Royals' sake, I hope this was a depth acquisition more than anything in the veing of KW signing Grudz.

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Timing is everything.

2 mins ago I posted on yesterday’s link posting:

BTW, Colin,

I really liked the links.

Keep up the good work.

I don’t care what Cheat says about you, you’re all right.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 30, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions  

these kinds of posts i can do in class

so i might as well.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like 'em, thanks.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 30, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too, but don't tell Colin I said that.

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Oct 30, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

so Bally and Chiburb are in favor

and i’m going to extrapolate that larry thinks they suck.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, just your updating skills.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't get the impression you've overlooked anything ever re: baseball

so i will just remind you that i, for one, am mortal.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know, i'm kind of joking here.

but one would think that the first place one would look for links for a post like this are 1) this site and 2) white sox sites. you know, considering this is a white sox blog?

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

well right if you're "rational" and

“think things through first”

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry that i don't deliver my criticism as constructively and sensitively as your kindergarten teacher did.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

a lot of sadness in this world could be mitigated with juice box hand outs.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

So begins the offseason. Just as the regular season started.

Symmetry – catch it or die.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 30, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is how the season started?

link plz

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

wu is just playing the percentages.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does that even mean?

i just don’t remember what the hell you’re talking about!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

rather simple, colin.

is it often that my criticism is cuddly? no. how often do i criticize? often. play the percentages.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always focusing on your role, your place, links to you.

Fer Chrissakes, go help a homeless person or a UM football player.

;)

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 30, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

or get off your lazy ass and interview chris getz. he's in your town taking classes for god's sake. get the fucking story.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

for serious?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

it amazes me the people who populate the positions on this site.

again, way to be, colin.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i yam what i yam

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing like failing to improve yourself. way to be.

it’s right in your fucking lap and you blow it. story of your pathetic life.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

*deep bow*

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah yes

i’m with you now

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

it would also prevent having your dad, aka the cheat, have to further update your post with relevant info.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought it was more of a younger/older sibling thing

unless he’s a sort of “works in Manhattan in the 60’s” kind of dad.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

no. the cheat is our father figure.

he’s not your fucking buddy. and pull up your goddamn pants. show some self-respect.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

right. i forgot how you and JRE are regular attendees at willow creek.

stress the figure part then.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

america's most influential and second largest church?

right in cheat’s backyard.

http://www.thecronline.com/mag_article.php?mid=1094&mname=July

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

More so that Saddleback?

Wow. I had no idea of the holiness surrounding Cheat, perhaps because of his drunken rants on the site. (Though he could have been influenced by a priest.)

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 30, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh.... fuck that noise

between them (saddleback) and the mormons dive-bombing “yes on 8” placards all over the fucking place………. bastards.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 30, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i hope 8 turns out well

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

better than for the rays.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

9=8 did pretty well for them, actually.

The perfect is the enemy of the good…

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 30, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

South Barrington?

Too nice of an area to house Sox fans, Cheat’s a fraud.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You've gotta get close to lob a Molotov coctail

Seriously though, I remember going to some (youth sporting) events there in HS because I wanted to get into some girl’s pants…

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Oct 30, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

didn't we all, though, cheat?

plus, i’ve never seen a place hand out more free food. sports, chicks, and food – what more could a young larry and the cheat want?

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

cheat's a big biker. c'mon, wu. keep up.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

who said anything about housing cheat.

and did you not see how much sbnation was sold for?

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's your father figure.

I don’t need to hero-worship. Except for Toonder – that guy has a job I can’t figure out and gets to come and go as he pleases, all on the taxpayer tab. THAT’s my hero. Cheat hasn’t told us how much he netted from the SBN sale. My allegience can be changed…

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Oct 30, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will Geer

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Oct 30, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

updating with news posted on here hours ago. way to be.

as for “in depth”: hall will be re-signed for less.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

i didn't see it

and it hasn’t been on the front page. alas, i did not live up to your standards for blogging. but do i ever? for everyone else that doesn’t already know everything, it’s up there. it turns out there are readers of this site beyond the 20-30 regular commenters.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-Year deal on Toby, I hope.

Guy couldn’t throw out a midget with one leg.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 30, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

and even he can keep Pods in the yard

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

so there are roughly nine midgets without a leg playing major league baseball.

how did i miss that?

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

drinking causes you to see double??

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 30, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about David Ross?

Better arm, good OBP, probably a little more pop.

Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.

by ballyb on Oct 30, 2008 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looks like a better platoon mate anyway

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

My idea to change the World Series

Royal Rumble. Each team picks 3 players, whichever team is the last one in the ring wins the title.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Where the hell did this come from?

You drunk again?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 30, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have an exam tomorrow, so yes

 Even though the Phillies are a very good team I didn’t give a shit about them besides that Ryan Howard endorses Subway and Jayson Werth looked like an evil Serbian terrorist. I would love the NL moreso if I saw Alfonso Soriano doing a figure four leglock on CC Sabathia while Manny Ramirez hits Cole Hamels with a chair.

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

perfect, just perfect
and Jayson Werth looked like an evil Serbian terrorist.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 30, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a softball league in Bellwood.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 30, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's talking about the windy city thunderbolts.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 30, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 30, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Radicals

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 30, 2008 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone think chad cordero would be a good sign?

looks like a low risk high reward type of situation

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 30, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Does he cost draft picks?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 30, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

no. he just refused assignment and is now a free agent.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had a torn right labrum

that is a pretty high risk a year after surgery.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Oct 30, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

what we need is

another reliever with a history of his arm being tomato soup at one or more points in time. pass

and what the FUCK is Moore smoking, he has like 4 guys who are liable to give equal or better value without the luxury of giving up one of their best young relievers and millions of arbitration dollars.

by Daniel Berlyn on Oct 30, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wants a major league contract despite the fact that he couldn't break

88 with his fastball and had surgery on his labrum and he won’t play for the major league minimum either.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

what he wants is rather irrelevant.

remember the demands of garcia, colon, lohse, affeldt…..

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was just demonstrating the difference between what he wants and how much he sucks

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 30, 2008 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah. he sucks now.

he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.

by larry on Oct 30, 2008 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

he never threw hard

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Oct 30, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

that Alexei jpg Jim has up would make an awesome t-shirt.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

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