MLB Off-Season Timeline
The White Sox off-season began in earnest on Thursday with the declined options of Ken Griffey Jr. and Toby Hall. There was a flurry of this kind of activity around baseball thanks to the unwritten Don't Make Any Announcements During the Playoffs rule. In general, the announcements made immediately after the World Series, like the Royals-Marlins trade, were done during the playoffs. Thursday was just the post-series news dump.
For Toby Hall's sake, being included in that dump doesn't bode well for his future with the Sox. I made a point of noting that the declined option did not preclude him from returning, but it sure isn't a positive indicator.
We've passed the post-World Series news dump, the unofficial start to the hot stove league. So, what's in store over the next few days, weeks and months?
MLB Off-Season Timeline
- GM Meetings -- Nov. 3-6, 2008 -- Not much happens here. The GMs get together, drink some margaritas and do a little bowling. They can't sign players yet, and they rarely do more than compare notes. This is just a feeling out session before the Winter Meetings when the real action happens.
- Deadline to file for Free Agency -- World Series +10(?) days -- I'm not 100% sure on the deadline. It doesn't really matter.
- Free Agency Opens -- World Series + 15 days (in two weeks) -- The first day eligible players are allowed to sign with new teams
- Final day to protect players -- Nov. 20, 2008 -- The final day to add players to the 40-man roster in order to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.
- Last day to offer salary arbitration -- Dec. 1, 2008 -- Orlando Cabrera is the only player the Sox figure to offer arbitration, as offering Uribe would mean they would have to pay him a minimum of $3.7M were he to accept.
- Last day to for declared free agents to accept arbitration -- Dec. 7, 2008 -- This should only apply to Orlando Cabrera.
- Winter Meetings -- Dec. 8-11, 2008 -- A flurry of trades, a bunch of signings, and even more false rumors. Culminates in the Rule 5 draft on the final day.
- Non-tender deadline -- Dec. 12, 2008 -- Final day to tender offers to arbitration eligible players.
Kenny Williams seemed to back up my theory that the Sox wont be active on the free agent market with some quotes to the press Thursday. In an article on ChiSox.com titled White Sox to begin youth movement, Williams was quoted profusely.
"You are going to experience the most vanilla, beige, vague person this winter," said Williams with a laugh. "It just gets, the people keeping track of the daily scorecard, it's difficult to navigate our way through.
"We'll continue to explore any and all options out there. But I think it really hurt us, in terms of our fan excitement and perceptions, for our [2007] offseason to be viewed as a failure versus some of the little wins we had. We will try to avoid that as much as possible."
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I hate youth movements.
Especially when it is White Sox youth we are talking about. TRADE EM ALL!
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on
Oct 30, 2008 10:27 PM CDT
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I will be counting down the days until teams are allowed to make moves.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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by Where Triples Go to Die on
Oct 30, 2008 10:33 PM CDT
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ha
ok fine….one bad scouting report on Danks and everyone has to know about it…… He has a ball or two. i was wrong.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on
Oct 30, 2008 10:49 PM CDT
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sorry it was very ironic you say this.
then he goes out and shows us he has 3 balls.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
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by Where Triples Go to Die on
Nov 2, 2008 1:37 AM CDT
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Cheat, you left off the best (or worst) KW quote from that article
As for the search for a leadoff man, that job also might be filled from within in the person of Jerry Owens.
“I had one scout tell me, one who saw a lot of Jerry Owens, that ‘If you didn’t have Owens, you would be out looking for Owens,’” said Williams with a laugh. "We went into last year with Owens slated to be our leadoff guy and only an injury derailed that. It’s not the worst thing if that’s how we end up.
Am I back to worrying on a daily basis about Owens poisoning the line-up? I realize this is mostly just Kenny speak for ’we’re looking for anything but if we can’t, we can always fall back on him,’ but come on, he’s not a major league baseball player. Unless Toronto gets moved to the Central and the Sox face Halladay 6 times a year, Owens has minimum value on the roster.
by El Duque's Raft on
Oct 30, 2008 11:00 PM CDT
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I read it and chose to ignore
like a colin-larry fight
or the battle of wits occurring directly above your comment
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Oct 30, 2008 11:02 PM CDT
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but it could be a classic
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 30, 2008 11:04 PM CDT
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epic even
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Oct 31, 2008 10:31 AM CDT
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It was in a fanshot, anyway. Cheat is not redundant.
BTW, are the winter meetings in Orlando again in December? I BS’ed last year about wanting to go, but this year it seems more interesting (paradoxically, since we’re bound to be less active this year, but that’s how I roll).
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 12:38 PM CDT
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Vegas, baby. Dec. 7-10.
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 12:39 PM CDT
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I should've probably done the same
alas, it is too late for me.
by El Duque's Raft on
Oct 30, 2008 11:13 PM CDT
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I'm confused by what this quote means...
But I think it really hurt us, in terms of our fan excitement and perceptions, for our 2007 offseason to be viewed as a failure versus some of the little wins we had. We will try to avoid that as much as possible.
Anyone care to decipher? I really don’t have much of an idea as to what should be inferred from that…
by CWSKeith on
Oct 31, 2008 1:54 AM CDT
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It means
he feels like people were more upset by the players he didn’t get than the ones he actually did. So he’s going to be off the radar so to speak when it comes to acquiring players instead of letting everyone know who they’re going after, ie Hunter and M. Cabrera.
by El Duque's Raft on
Oct 31, 2008 8:31 AM CDT
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i like that approach, imo was that kdub was too loud about his motives last offseason
but i’m glad we didn’t get fukodome..hunter even
cabrera, if that required giving up danks, poreda, then i’m glad he took a pass
by onlysoxfaninboston on
Oct 31, 2008 1:30 PM CDT
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hmmm
SouthSideHitGirl wrote:
Great. Josh Fields at third. He wasn’t all the great at third when he was healthy in 07, and he struck out all the time.
After the news of Toby, Uribe, Crede and Griffey (even though we all knew Griffey and Crede would leave) today, suddenly, I’m not looking forward to 09.
10/31/2008 12:45 AM EDT
so shes not looking forward because we might lose hall and uribe?
His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing
by Jbasic89 on
Oct 31, 2008 2:16 AM CDT
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can't spell SouthSideHitGirl without S-S-H
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Oct 31, 2008 10:00 PM CDT
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Well done.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on
Nov 1, 2008 1:04 AM CDT
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I won't link to it, but Cowley has Vazquez traded for Figgens
And in case he’s wrong, Konerko replaces Javy.
I’d rather read Kenwo…
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 8:54 AM CDT
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Doesn't Javy's contract restrict trades to east coast teams
I suppose he could wave it – and onto year 2 of PK going west… or is it yr 3. At least it makes for interesting reading, or at least reading.
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on
Oct 31, 2008 9:14 AM CDT
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disagree re "reading", interesting or otherwise...
reminds me of why I quite donating the $.50 each day to that rag. I only see it when someone’s left a copy at the restaurant.
Oh well.
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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I think you meant that his contract restricts trades to West Coast teams
He wants shorter flights home to PR.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Oct 31, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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that is correct.
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 10:55 AM CDT
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how these people have jobs is amazing to me.
he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 10:56 AM CDT
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indeed.
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 11:17 AM CDT
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Clearly, he should be a real american and work as far away from home as possible, just so those damn red chinamen and indians don't get the gasoline / jet fuel before we can use it all
Interesting note: the Governator (Ahhnold) commutes from his LA home to Sacramento via private jet each day. That’s what I call efficient use of natural resources!
Also, there’s a high speed rail initiative to connect LA with Sacramento. Coincidence? I think not! (and yes it is since high speed rail has been in the works out here for at least 10 years)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Oct 31, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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Re Arnold. WOW!
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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I thought larry was refering to Cowley...
for not knowing that Javy can’t be traded to the Left Coast (but we do).
Maybe I read it wrong?
"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.
by Chiburb on
Oct 31, 2008 11:35 AM CDT
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no, you read it correctly.
he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 11:42 AM CDT
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I thought larry was referring to Chiburb
and rhythm. It fits.
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by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 12:40 PM CDT
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That's how I read it, obviously
I thought larry was making a sarcastic remark about someone choosing to work closer to their home.
Oh well.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:28 PM CST
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that's what I thought too
maybe I read it wrong too, I dunno all these rumours, difficult to keep up with
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Oct 31, 2008 11:43 AM CDT
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Is that the $9.7B bullet train?
And The Governator is in the process of completing a $5B variable-rate security placement directly with the good burghers of CA (no investment bankers needed at 4-4.5% 6-9 month tax-free yield!).
And they’re cutting back on cops all over the state now. Sounds like a yummy plan. Hope it’s a nice train.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122540831980086085.html
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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WU, I think you're making connections that aren't there
the train will be funded through future bond sales, cutting back on cops, etc. is happening now because of poor budget management and selfish fucks that don’t want to pay any taxes (possibly because they’re the idiots that bought houses they couldn’t afford).
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:27 PM CST
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Oh shit, they're reporting from Vallejo, that place is F-U-C-K-E-D, fucked.
I didn’t realize their budget management was that bad. 80% of the city’s budget to police and firefighters after all the post 9/11 feel-good nationalistic bullshit to pay cops more? Classic.
Way too much of the CA economy was based on the housing boom, and now that the housing market has crumbled, we’re starting to see the effects. Stockton, once the fringe suburb of the bay area for those who desperately wanted homes (but could not afford them), is becoming a ghost-town. Same thing with Vallejo. And there are plenty of empty housing development out in the central valley that are going to rot.
I believe this is what you refer to as a market correction.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:38 PM CST
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i voted for it. you?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Oct 31, 2008 10:03 PM CDT
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I haven't voted yet
It’s an interesting issue, given the state of the CA budget. Any time you issue bonds, you’re taking money out of the general fund, so that “no new taxes” line is a bunch of shit. I like the idea of high speed rail and it would create jobs, but at the same time, can CA afford it? I’ll probably vote yes, because unlike the Iraq war, this is something I’m comfortable having other people’s children and grandchildren pay for.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:24 PM CST
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haha!
If Vazquez doesn’t land Figgins, the Sox could dangle veteran first baseman Paul Konerko to the Angels if he agreed to waive his no-trade clause.
dangle!
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 10:19 PM CDT
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I don't believe anything KW says anymore
I’m just gonna sit back and not speculate until solid evidence comes in other than “KW said this”.
by madvillian on
Oct 31, 2008 9:22 AM CDT
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Who's got a link
for pitcher stats split AJ / Hall catching?
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 31, 2008 12:24 PM CDT
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Come on, you guys!
Who’s got one?
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 31, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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i imagine you can get that at baseball reference.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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Yessiree. Thanks, Larry.
Pitching and defense win baseball games in September and October.
by ballyb on
Oct 31, 2008 8:37 PM CDT
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for those of you who were reading over at BTB (colin and ugod for sure)
apparently they don’t like us that much. i posted a joke in the “keith law gold” vein about juan pierre (nothing lewd or wrong about it). and it was deleted. great site.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/10/31/650876/the-scariest-baseball-play
he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 12:48 PM CDT
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shouldn't be a big surprise, of course, considering it's a bunch of the guys from draysbay and we all remember patrick l kennedy's escapades from a year or two back.
he's stubborn. and lacks discipline. and i hope he drowns in front of his children. but I’ll have to document all that when I see him next year, assuming he stays here, which he probably will. i don’t wanna be dissin’ without substance.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 12:49 PM CDT
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And they seem to love dasox313. Has about 4 fanshots up in a row.
He/she’d added so much to our site in his limited time.
F-sticks.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 12:53 PM CDT
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whatever. it's their site.
i am amused reading it because they often play the part of the stereotypical seamheads. if they don’t want my posts, fine. baseball is serious business!
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 12:56 PM CDT
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I know it's their site. We still live in America. For now. Live free or die.
I’m commenting on the quality of the posts/information. One man’s ceiling…
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by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 12:59 PM CDT
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right. if they want certain posts on their site and not others, what say do you and i have?
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 1:03 PM CDT
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by the way, this was the offensive post, in response to the above post.
walk around in a blue shirt, wearing concrete boots and moving extremely slowly. i’d clearly be juan pierre.
that’s some keith law-style gold right there.
can’t have that! should’ve thrown in some cuss words and sexist jokes to get my money’s worth.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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They don't get "clearly".
Know your audience.
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by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 1:36 PM CDT
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i figured at least ugod and colin would read it.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 2:06 PM CDT
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i did
and i laughed pretty hard. i guess they just aren’t used to you like we are. we know that if we fuck up, you’re gonna rain on us. which is kind of nice to have, in a way.
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 31, 2008 2:14 PM CDT
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people don't like to be made to look like fools.
i’ve always found that sarcasm and ridicule are some of the better methods of informal social sanction (usually with a good dose of humor, as the pierre joke obviously was). if it’s a site that wants intelligent baseball discussion, perhaps the jokes they highlight on their front page should be – what’s the word i’m looking for? – intelligent. shit that doesn’t make any sense ain’t intelligent.
of course, like most people who have the power, when they are able to stifle things that make them look foolish, they do so. BTB apparently is one of those.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 2:23 PM CDT
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since we've always been a full disclosure type site, here's the dressing down i got and my response to it.
> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:01:24 -0400
> From: [Sky]
> To: [larry]
> Subject: BtB
>
> Hey Larry, I just wanted to explain why I hid your comment in the
> Halloween thread. Namely, let’s keep the Keith Law discussion in the
> Keith Law thread. I’m also a little disappointed in the quality of
> discussion in THAT thread (and not just from you), but I’m going to
> keep that one going for now in hopes that we might have some sort of
> positive resolution.
>
> Like I mentioned in one comment, Beyond the Boxscore is a bit
> different from team-specific blogs in that the goal is intelligent
> baseball discussion and not just shared fandom of one team. We have
> less patience for disrespect, and don’t give people the benefit of the
> doubt that a comment was a joke instead of a personal attack, no
> matter how trivial it might seem. I’d like to think there’s still
> room for humor, but we shoot for productive conversation over banter
> for the sake of banter. If you’re cool with that, we’d love you to
> stick around and keep an eye on our group-think.
>
> Sky
It’s your site, Sky. If my commentary (and others) isn’t a fit for it that’s fine – no worries on my part. It does seem odd that a post basically asking for banter isn’t allowed to have my banter. I guess my costume idea wasn’t deemed quite as intelligent baseball discussion as the Pujols one – apparently your call. But I understand that you guys strive for a certain discourse and that’s great – important thing to have on the web. Perhaps, if I might suggest, you include that in the terms one agrees to when one signs up for the site so it isn’t a surprise when posts like mine are deleted. Also, you may consider not inviting bantering posts through such posts as the one in question, which asks for halloween costumes (Pujols as a deity doesn’t strike me as all that intelligent baseball discussion – but maybe that’s the problem, hmm?), or the other, which posts an apparent joke from a Keith Law chat. If you want serious, intelligent baseball discussion to predominate, you should stick to that. Otherwise, it starts to smack of selective decisions and hypocrisy when you start to say some stuff is okay, other stuff is not, that is intelligent, that is not. Like I said above, it’s your site – but if it’s not clear what the rules are and you’re ruling by whatever I think fiat, it makes it a site at which people don’t want to post.
like wiz famously said, what is this – china?
one of the primary reasons i’m posting this stuff is because i (and others) link to BTB frequently. so people may as well know what is expected of them if they decide to post over there.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 2:11 PM CDT
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i didn't even join BTB until today to back you and colin up
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 31, 2008 2:17 PM CDT
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Just to be clear (and I really hate talking about this stuff)...
The post was hidden not because it was “offensive” (it wasn’t, obviously) but because the Keith Law discussion already had a home in another thread.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on
Oct 31, 2008 2:50 PM CDT
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if it wasn't offensive to something, it wouldn't have been booted.
but that’s semantics. we’re certainly on a similar page.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 2:52 PM CDT
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We like you guys. Seriously.
And as you know, anyone can post fanshots. In fact, we’d love to have you guys contribute smart ChiSox-related fanshots or link to smart ChiSox-related articles via fanshots. Should generate some interesting discussion with outside opinion…
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on
Oct 31, 2008 3:44 PM CDT
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we know you don't dislike us.
sky, you really need to turn up that humor detector. this site is full of dry, deadpan, and sarcastic humor (and people who use it). which seems to be a large part of the issue. when we post things like “they don’t like us that much” or “you’re sensitve to pretender ROY candidates because you’re rays fans who must defend the honor of evan longoria”. we’re not being serious. like, at all.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 3:50 PM CDT
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i'm serious. like all the time.
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on
Oct 31, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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Yeah, me too.
T n A in 08!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:43 PM CST
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now i know
Might I also recommend playing it a little more straight when you visit communities where everybody hasn’t already established they are sarcastic the entire time.
I think we’re good here, now. ; )
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on
Oct 31, 2008 3:59 PM CDT
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See, we here at SSS have something called prestige
And by prestige, I mean low down farce humor followed by dry, sarcastic, often unfunny humor that only the poster himself deems humorous and dammit, if we can’t enjoy that then we might as well move to England with all the other monarch pussies. But we are the ones embodying the freedom of speech and dry humor that only baseball loving, apple pie baking Americans can understand. It takes some getting used to, that’s for sure. But I like to think of it as a safety net; it might not be pretty, but much like the gnarl in Albert Pujols’ right elbow it serves a purpose, even if it hurts sometimes. We all come out a little more suited for society, and a lot more pessimistic.
I agree with Larry in that it was oversensitive, if not unnecessary, to delete his post, in any context. But I think I speak for the majority of those in the know when I say Law is a turd-burgling, ass sucking cunt face regardless of his incorrect joke of the Missile. In the safety of my homebase site, I’ll go ahead and say that if you could get pregnant by oral sex, we’d have a lot of little Keith Laws running around BTB. That does not, however, mean that I don’t still have it next to John Sickels’ site in my faves bar, and it doesn’t mean I don’t like most everyone there. And if you understand the context of Larry’s joke, it’s really funny. But understand he made it not to be an ass, but because he thinks of BTB as a place to discuss instead of a collection of separate discussions. But I think that’s been cleared up
You should go to LGT if you want some real shit, though. MFers make us look like… French or something.
by Daniel Berlyn on
Oct 31, 2008 5:52 PM CDT
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we do have a regular from England though
but this might be your best comment so far
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 31, 2008 5:59 PM CDT
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I'm trying to think of something to put in the post on BTB
but everything I think of is at least mildly funny. I’m in a fix here. I want to say, “I could dress up like a turd, and be Keith Law,” or “I could be a whore, and then be Manny Ramirez” or “I could wear a rope around my neck and be Alex Rodriguez,” or “I could tie granite to my hands, and then be Derek Jeter,” or “I could wear a Phillies cap and walk around with a woman with a bruised eye and be Brett Myers”, or “I could carry a back-pack with a bunch of black babies on me and be Elijah Dukes”
What to do?
by Daniel Berlyn on
Oct 31, 2008 6:27 PM CDT
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i cant tell if its larry sarcasm
irony is i just made a post about how great it is, so i cant put it down now
by Daniel Berlyn on
Oct 31, 2008 6:36 PM CDT
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you are white hot tonight, danny b. white hot.
and you’re nailing this reply button business.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 6:39 PM CDT
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i'll take that as a compliment
i have difficulty with these things
by Daniel Berlyn on
Oct 31, 2008 6:42 PM CDT
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all signs are pointing towards don't
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 31, 2008 6:47 PM CDT
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i don't hand out recommends like candy like some people do on this site.
you got two in quick succession from me. unprecedented. you are the vander meer of this site.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 6:47 PM CDT
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(deep breath)
OHMIGODohmigodOHMIGODohmigodOHMIGODohmigod
by Daniel Berlyn on
Oct 31, 2008 6:55 PM CDT
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I sent an email to Larry explaining why the comment was hidden.
And that was before I saw this comment. I think he and I have cleared the air, even if we’re not totally on the same page.
I hope this doesn’t need to be said, but I’ve got nothing against you guys or this site. I’ve enjoyed the Sox discussion over here. I’m hoping that those of you who are interested in a sabermetric discussion of baseball will continue to give your Sox perspective over at BtB.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on
Oct 31, 2008 2:48 PM CDT
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I'm loving this rigorous intellectual debate between
two US Sports blogs, this kind of stuff is really important in advancing the human condition.
regards
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Oct 31, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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i kinda wish larry had a bowel disruptor.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Oct 31, 2008 2:59 PM CDT
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C.H.U.D. just came in the mail today
best halloween ever
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Oct 31, 2008 3:08 PM CDT
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tits and ass 08...the time is drawing near for MM/furbs
motorboat the vote on tuesday bitches
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on
Oct 31, 2008 3:16 PM CDT
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no visual candy? you suck furbs
vote

and

’08
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 3:56 PM CDT
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see? this is why they hate us at beyond the boxscore.
quit posting pictures of your girlfriends, wiz. you’re making the seamheads over there jealous.
by larry on
Oct 31, 2008 3:57 PM CDT
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"My boy, we are pilgrims in an unholy land."
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 4:00 PM CDT
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posting the eye candy is MM's job not mine...my portly self just runs around giggling and saying vote
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on
Oct 31, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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All of a sudden, and without warning
This thread became not safe to view at work.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on
Oct 31, 2008 4:49 PM CDT
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that seems to happen
whenever i’m in class
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
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Oct 31, 2008 5:49 PM CDT
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Hey, I lost my administrative privileges clicking on a link
to Rachel Ray that originated from this site. Can’t be too careful, Jim.
And wait until the REAL Big Brother takes over. Mark. My. Words.
Nice to see the Rays and Sox sites developing a rivalry. HATE!!!!!!! A wonderful thing in sports.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Oct 31, 2008 7:52 PM CDT
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Stay the fuck out of Chicago, Lincicome
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/31/lincicome-singletary-shoots-for-the-moon/
After a batting slump and losing streak this spring, Ozzie Guillen tried to inspire the White Sox with two blowup dolls and “strategically placed” baseball bats in the clubhouse. The purpose was never made quite clear, except that Guillen refused to apologize and the White Sox eventually made the playoffs.
Also,
Billy Beane wrote Moneyball… refused to apologize
I suppose I should just be grateful that it wasn’t another column calling for the shortening of the baseball season.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Oct 31, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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Hmm. Costume of the year here in LA...
seems to be Manny. Every other kid is wearing a Dodger uniform and dreadlock wig.
by RoyEgan on
Oct 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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I think there are one or two football fans on here
and much as it galls me to say it but Cristiano Ronaldo’s second goal against West Ham at Old Trafford on Wednesday night was a thing of incredible beauty.
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Oct 31, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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got a link?
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
by Illini0509 on
Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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to me it looked like berbatov
made the more impressive play. but what do i know, i’m american
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
by Illini0509 on
Oct 31, 2008 9:44 PM CDT
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of course
a goal is more than just who scored it, and the Berbatov bit is what makes it special.
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Oct 31, 2008 9:50 PM CDT
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poor reading comprehension on my part, sorry
are you a kaiser chiefs fan by any chance?
"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"
by Illini0509 on
Oct 31, 2008 10:01 PM CDT
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simply wondrous
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Nov 1, 2008 2:42 PM CDT
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Incredible
berbatov’s move was simply amazing.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 3, 2008 12:52 PM CST
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Studs Terkel RIP
I just have to say that Studs was a great baseball fan. He loved both teams — so he said — but for him the real show was in the stands. I remember a day that Studs, Veeck and I went to see the Cubbies play and we payed very little attention to the game. Bill got smashed by the 3rd inning and he and Studs were quoting Shakespeare — or trying to — to the point where they were really fucking it up but laughing their asses off about it. The personification of a Chicagoan.
by RoyEgan on
Oct 31, 2008 9:52 PM CDT
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he was a great guy
RIP Studs
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 9:58 PM CDT
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Studs was awesome
Wrote his first book in his 50s, right? Amazing.
by hitlesswonder on
Oct 31, 2008 11:43 PM CDT
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Mike is awesome! Maybe he should replace lovie next year
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 9:57 PM CDT
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chris deluca's words of wisdom
Both [Chicago] teams figure to be players for free-agent left-hander CC Sabathia and might try to jump in the fray for San Diego Padres ace Jake Peavy. But the primary need for the Cubs and Sox is speed.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/1252416,CST-SPT-deluca31.article
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Oct 31, 2008 10:24 PM CDT
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If only Sabathia could also lead-off...
I can’t believe “speed” is still the holy grail for MSMS (mainstream media sportswriters). I’m going to bring back my Earl Weaver sig in protest if this keeps up. Getting one dude with wheels for CF or 2B will have such negligible impact that I can’t quantify it and I looked up microns in the dictionary in an attempt to do so. Team speed obviously helped the Rays this season (taking extra bases and a good defensive outfield). but that’s TEAM speed. They had it over half their order. And even then, they made it to the WS because they smacked the snot out of the ball. Fer chrssakes the Angels are supposed to be team smallball (and who did they trade for? not Juan Pierre), and they did no better than the Sox in postseason scheme of things.
The Sox could use some guys that get on-base and have a good glove. A fifth starter would nice too. Oh, and better sportswriting.
by hitlesswonder on
Oct 31, 2008 11:54 PM CDT
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What the F#@* are you talking about...?
All I want is speed.
guys we should be getting
Jaun Pierre
Elijah Dukes
Chone Figgins
Willy Taverez
Michael Bourn
Brian Roberts
Cesar Izturis
If you put 4 of those guys on 1 team, well my friend you have some bad ass team speed. And we all know that team speed wins baseball games…. It’s not that difficult to understand.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on
Nov 1, 2008 7:00 AM CDT
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with all that speed
who is going to play your leadoff position?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on
Nov 1, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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They all would - 7 guys... virtually everyone would be leading off at some point in a game
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on
Nov 1, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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Just to add - that is always my favorite position to watch in the field
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on
Nov 1, 2008 10:37 AM CDT
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someone make that person stop talking.
permanently.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Nov 1, 2008 2:39 PM CDT
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i might have to start emailing deluca again
what a maroon
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by colintj on
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Sox offseason
The Sox have an intertesresting offseason. They have to sign a lot of bullpen and starting rotation help. I just want to see wwhat happens.
by dasox313 on
Nov 1, 2008 7:36 PM CDT
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When I post from England at this time I have usually been drinking
what’s your excuse?
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 1, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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Probably a Gators fan.
I dont expect you to get the reference hoody, most people usually dont.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on
Nov 1, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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would it be from Big Trouble?
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
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Yeah, some people arent fans.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on
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i feel that we've had this convo before
i didn’t really care much for it myself
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
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Yeah I had this convo with someone here before.
I think Im the only person who actually liked it. Makes everyone who isnt me look quite stupid.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on
Nov 1, 2008 11:00 PM CDT
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to whom?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 2, 2008 1:31 AM CDT
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To me.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
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