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oh well

still a successful season overall. sox overcame a lot to get as far as they did, and the playoff win over Minny was one of the most exciting games I’ve ever watched.

Pointless speculation dept: wouldn’t be surprised if JD is shopped in the offseason to try to pick up pitching help, with Swisher back in as the everyday RF.

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by vanillablue on Oct 6, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, hell, it was a fun season

I was hoping the Sox would take TB the distance, but I think they lost to a better team.

I have to say, that with Alexei, Q, Swish, Danks, and Floyd the Sox have a lot more young talent than they had last season. I think KW will need a similarly great offseason for the Sox to contend in 2009. But maybe he can pull it off. It should be fun to watch.

by hitlesswonder on Oct 6, 2008 7:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, nice season

No one expected them to make the playoffs, and to make it after losing Quentin is impressive. Some parts came together (Danks, Quentin, Ramirez, Floyd, Thornton) and the offseason is always fun with KW.

With that said, I think it’s fitting to lose to Sonnanstine and that Griffey struck out to end the season.

by shaftr on Oct 6, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We really missed Q.

4 hits. No more than 5 runs (once) in 5 games. Not good. But we’re looking better this offseason than last year. We know Danks and Floyd are real. Che is not a ?. Q is a monster (if he’s healthy). The pen has stabilized. And we don’t worry about Crede.

Plus, we have some good talent in the minors. I like it. AL Central Champs. Not shabby for the 72-75 win season I predicted.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A lot of predictions were blown, old man.

Go back and look at our Swisher projections. Laffable. Look at the Q! and Alexei ones as well. The Danks and Floyd ones were way off too.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 7:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great to hear you come back after being gone the whole season

and give me the “old man” crap. Maybe next year you can hang in and earn it by giving as well as getting, kid.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehe

I’m warming up to the new format… I wish I could figure out how to post pics like all these crazy people do.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I embrace you more each day, hoodie. Post o' the eve.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 8:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

obviously this cheeky bastard is content to not tell me how :)

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 8:07 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A good season

Given all the adversity, I am ok with the result. Losing the league MVP, starting 3B, 4th starter, closer for a month, set-up man for two months, an effective Konerko for all but two months of the season, and Swisher’s inconsistent pay – all of that and we still won the division. The Rays just outplayed us – I don’t feel like the Sox beat themselves.

With a good young core of Alexei, Q, Danks, and Floyd, this feels like a season to build on, not a last hurrah of the old guard.

No matter what, I will look fondly back on this season for the most exciting Sox baseball game I’ve ever gone to, the Minny playoff.

Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.

by vince_ on Oct 6, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh and I would like to thank Cheat et al

For running the best Sox site on the web. Y’all deserve a bow – except that Christopher Michaels jerk.

Baseball is not played by emotionless robots.

by vince_ on Oct 6, 2008 7:49 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely

thanks for SSS, Cheat.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Oct 6, 2008 7:53 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heck yeah

this place is great.

house money!!

by thecip on Oct 6, 2008 7:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if i wasn't sane i'd beat the hell out of all of you.

well, not really. most of those ones have been banned. i love, and/or appreciate everyone else.

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 6, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

Wasn’t a big fan of message boards until I was guided to this site. A year well done and here’s to many more.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 8:38 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

fantastic job cheat

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 6, 2008 11:16 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They went down with their dignity intact

Now if only that mavericky maverick could do the same…

"We have to win tomorrow," Guillen said. "I mean, it’s not a do or die thing, but I’d rather go home with one win than go home with our backs to the wall. This organization has been against the wall a lot of times, but we’ve pulled it out before."

by ChicagoPete on Oct 6, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heard a joke...

Maybe McCain is such a Maverick he will vote for Obama.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 7:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A real maverick would do something like that

in a maverick kind of way.

"We have to win tomorrow," Guillen said. "I mean, it’s not a do or die thing, but I’d rather go home with one win than go home with our backs to the wall. This organization has been against the wall a lot of times, but we’ve pulled it out before."

by ChicagoPete on Oct 6, 2008 7:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No anger or frustration from me tonight

what a fun, fun season. They had two players emerge as cornerstones in Q and Danks and another two emerge as quality pieces in Che and Floyd. The farm system has a nice, nice base with Poreda’s emergence, Brandon Allen’s power and Gordon Beckham’s hair, and we have a couple of draft picks coming once OC departs. I am slightly worried about Danks for next season, but that’s minor in comparison to the personal satisfaction about heading into this winter with a solid core (and the huge difference between the work that needed to be done last winter versus this winter.

The loss to Tampa doesn’t bother me a whole lot. What will stick in my memory is the phenomenal performance by John Danks and that (generally) awesome game to beat the Twins to get to the playoffs. As such, it’ll be nice to come to the ballpark next year (and beyond) and see the 2008 division champs banner.

Kudos, Tampa. Well done, White Sox.

Go Hawks!

by CWSKeith on Oct 6, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good post

Sums up my thoughts as well. Assuaging my thoughts about Danks going forward is what a great job the ORG has done with all its pitchers. Is there any team that gets more 200+ IP guys year in and year out than this one?

And shit…if he is about to blow an arm we all know KW will trade him before he does!

by madvillian on Oct 6, 2008 8:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's going to be so sad, when listening to 670

to not hear, after “home of the 2008 american league central champions”, “the next white sox broadcast is………”

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 6, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Q and Danks really shined this season

but I’m lowing my hopes from them next season, not out of cynicism, but with screws in the wrist and Fausto regression in mind.

by onlysoxfaninboston on Oct 6, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need a Centre Fielder

and I like Clayton Richard, if his balls ever get as big as his teeth then we’ve got another young starter.

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 6, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coop is the least of our worries.

We need to hit and field.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 7:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen to that

rec’d

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:40 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RUN where?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great Season

Nice meeting you all

by 815Sox on Oct 6, 2008 7:58 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good luck in the election.

Sounds like you are working hard.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We exceeded expectations.

That helps.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 7:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We know we weren't supposed to be here

And we got proper excuses with the injuries and such

by Option27 on Oct 6, 2008 8:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And we've won recently

and most of us have lives outside of the blogosphere

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:41 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do we all remember our high school Camus?

“In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer ..”

by RoyEgan on Oct 6, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was not an English or philosophy student in high school.

Plus, I was hetero. (Now I’m neutero.) But, yes, that’s a great quotation. Thanks.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 6, 2008 8:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very appropriate indeed.

For one summer, we looked invincible.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least in the Cell.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 6, 2008 8:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always preferred

“A fellow can get used to about anything after awhile”

Winning included.

by madvillian on Oct 6, 2008 8:35 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and a final note

jeff kellogg can kiss my fucking ass right downtown and print it.
(credit to lee elia for that)

brian anderson would've caught that...

by BuehrleMan on Oct 6, 2008 8:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is he trying to take a dump out there?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My thoughts are pretty much the same as everyone else in this thread...

Great, entertaining, exciting season that nobody could have realistically expected. The one-game playoff was one of the best games I’ve ever watched, and the five walk-off HRs we hit were pretty awesome. Heading into next year, I feel great about Danks, Floyd, and Buehrle leading the rotation with a solid bullpen. The offense will be a concern of mine, but between Che and Q, we could maybe put something together.

I leave this season feeling great about the White Sox. There’s no shame in losing to a damn good Rays team, and Sox fans should hold their heads up high as we head into the offseason.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Oct 6, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHAHA WE'RE NOT SAD

we’re grateful for our good season.

take that, rest of baseball.

house money!!

by thecip on Oct 6, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ditto, ditto, ditto and ditto.

Fun season. I’ll be looking forward to starting next season off with a nice handful of young guys. Not to mention the young players on the sox that we’ll get to expect good things from.

by Trooper on Oct 6, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kenny can feel the need, the need for speed
Without getting into details, Williams said he’s going to look for some speed at the top and bottom of the order.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/697

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 6, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know it's kind of been running joke

but truthfully, I would be stunned if he doesn’t sign Orlando Hudson this offseason. My hope is that he doesn’t go too overboard with this speed thing and I have no reason to think he will, especially after they banished Owens this year. Speed is a great commodity to have but having good baserunners like Swish and Q! are just as valuable.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 9:44 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think kenny knows the difference between

an athlete with speed and a baseball player with speed.

by Jbasic89 on Oct 6, 2008 9:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

orlando hudson is fast?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 6, 2008 9:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No

but he’s more in the mold of Swish and Q. He can take the extra base and what not. I think he does know the difference between an athlete and a baseball player with speed, but the fact that they were one strained oblique from having Jerry Owens as the starting left fielder does make me a little nervous.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 9:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BA would fill in in center

and Swisher would go to LF

Outfield depth is the least of my worries.

by madvillian on Oct 6, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant going into this season

if Owens doesn’t get hurt, Quentin is in AAA or a 4th outfielder. Of course, he probably would’ve been called up at some point, performed well, and overtaken Owens.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 10:09 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so we're looking at a floor of nick's 1.21 or so in eqhar.

great. well, i guess if you set the standard that low, orlando hudson just slips in.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 6, 2008 10:11 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kind of noticed that too

just curious, any particular reason? I only glanced at his stats on BR and was surprised to see he had a decent OBP but that was all I really looked at. Oh, and SB’s, which he had none of.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 10:20 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Figgins is perfect.

Threw one away at 3rd on the front end of a double play last night, thoug he was hitting up a storm. Seriously, we could do worse with Chone at 3B next year. Fields is not the answer. Sorry.

No team can match the White Sox combination of power, pitching and experience. Certainly not the Rays. White Sox in 5

by winningugly on Oct 7, 2008 8:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure, the Sox could do worse

but they could do better as well. I see he’s a FA, but any idea if it’s an A or B level? Won’t Anaheim be interested in resigning him? If not, what are the chances the Sox are even on his radar?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:48 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ozzie
“We need speed, but they have to have talent,” Guillen said before the Sox beat Tampa Bay 5-3 Sunday to extend their American League Division Series. “I know I would like to see some more speed. But when you talk about speed, you can’t talk about nine rabbits. You can’t.”

and on clayton

“I will take a chance with him,” Guillen said. “Obviously, he has to show what he can do in spring training..”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-081005-chicago-white-sox-speed-guillen,0,4541540,print.story

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 6, 2008 10:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

small strikezones, too. our team obp would skyrocket.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 7, 2008 2:39 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks to all . . .

I second the thoughts expressed here in the thread. It was a great season that far exceeded our expectations and one that provided a lot of excitement. I particularly want to thank Cheat and those who run this web site for making following the Sox particularly special this year. I learned a lot reading the recaps and some of the fan posts and the links to other articles. You have all provided a very rich resource for baseball enthusiasts and Sox fans in particular. Let’s go get some added dimension to our offense (a consistent .310-.330 hitter with a little speed would be nice) and take care of that 5th starter spot.

by VAChisox on Oct 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So many things went right with that post

but then so many went wrong. ;) Kinda busting your balls here, so don’t get the old panties in a bunch…

butt seriously, consistent? Who are you, Joe Morgan? .310-.330 hitter? Have we taught you nothing about OBA, OPS, win shares, and statistics that actually matter?

Yes, it was an excellent season that exceeded expectations. But I think some of us have a little reading up to do. ;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:52 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another thing to look forward to

is the new tradition of blackouts. I hope it stays for years to come in big games.

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love the offseason

itll be especially fun following kenny seeing what he’ll try to do to turn our team into a more consistent team. as for our locks for next season do you see anything outside of:
LF- Quentin, RF-Dye, SS-Ramirez, 1B-Konerko, C-AJ
SP- Buerhle, Danks, Floyd
im not going to list relievers because i dont think well add any significant relief pitchers as when healthy this is one of the better bullpens around

by Jbasic89 on Oct 6, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dye is certainly not anywhere near a lock.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 6, 2008 9:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quentin, Ramirez, AJ

and the three SP’s are the only I’d consider locks. Everyone else is pretty much fair game

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 6, 2008 9:50 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

konerko is not going anywhere.

and you may as well add thome to that list, as well.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 6, 2008 9:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Linebrink, Dotel, and Thorndog are locks to be back

and I don’t see the Sox getting rid of Swisher

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:54 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

toby?

Worked out pretty well, if you ask me.

www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com

by Raf on Oct 6, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for you nate silver geeks out there,

in case you didn’t already know, he’s going to be on the colbert report tomorrow. not sure if baseball will even be mentioned but who knows.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 6, 2008 9:55 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A good friend I went to college with lived below him in a Wicker Park duplex last year

Said he was a cool guy, if a bit wierd: one time he walked into my friends apt and thought it was his own. Maybe the drugs were just that good that night.

by madvillian on Oct 6, 2008 10:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good season guys

This series would have been much different if you guys had a healthy Quentin…even without him, it was a damn scary lineup. With the right moves in the offseason, you guys will have a lot to cheer about next year. Just keep Detroit in the basement:)

I like the blackout…much more than our friggin cowbells.

by steve-o1285 on Oct 6, 2008 10:00 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you do

now that we’re out, i want Tampa to kick some serious ass

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 6, 2008 11:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thirded.

The Rays are about change, the Red Sox experience.

Where have I seen this before…?

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Oct 6, 2008 11:34 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Nice play!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:55 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the red sox used to be mavericks

but when they got a little success the douchenozzlery soared.

hmm………

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 7, 2008 9:55 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danks' balls in the news
Last week I wrote about John Danks’ balls. Not the specifics, mind you, but rather celebrating their basic existence. It’s a good thing.

Eight days ago, White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was lamenting his lack of cojone-endowed pitchers, like Johan Santana and C.C. Sabathia. And hours after he spoke, the Sox won the first of three elimination games in a row to win the AL Central and the team went from the doldrums to the heights of a “no one’s expecting us to win” kind of plucky underdog. Danks was the final ballsy hero, throwing eight shutout innings in a 1-0 win over the Twins last Tuesday. It was his marquee game, the kind that gives you a certain reputation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-greenberg/big-game-hunter_b_132391.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 6, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

last week
On Sunday afternoon, Ozzie Guillen posed an informal question to some reporters hanging around the dugout.

“Did you see (Johan) Santana last night?” he asked. Santana threw a complete game win the night before to keep the Mets in contention for the playoffs. “He has big balls. (C.C.) Sabathia too. I need some pitchers like that.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-greenberg/balls-in-our-fields-chica_b_130739.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 6, 2008 10:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, that makes one of us

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 7, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd trade your balls for santana too

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 7, 2008 9:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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