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Kenny Williams Would Like to Lower Your Free Agent Expectations

The front office has taken notice. They've seen your 900 I Want A Pony posts, dreaming of big name free agents, your 3-for-1 swaps for that healthy All-Star pitcher. They'd like you to take a step back, somewhere closer to reality.

"Payroll-wise, I stopped worrying about that," Williams said before Game 1 of the AL Division Series. "[Chairman] Jerry Reinsdorf will give me a payroll number and that will have virtually no bearing on what type of team I think we should have.

"It will give me a ceiling number, but we're not going to spend unnecessarily. We'll spend what's needed to try to put a winner on the field."

So slow down with your visions of Orlando Hudson, Rafael Furcal, or even Mark Ellis. We've got Chris Getz. He's like a piranha crossed with a ray crossed with a shark. You're gonna like him.

"Chris Getz can play," Williams said last week. "He's a guy who is more in the Minnesota Twins-type mold. You know how I like grinders, and he's a grinder-type guy.

He might not have the gaudy numbers, but he's going to help win games."

I'll have to update our payroll chart, which I think I neglected to finish last off-season, so you can accurately put together your wish lists. But that's for another day.

Yes, I realize there is nothing new here. The quote is from last Thursday. But judging by yesterday's threads, if I didn't have this here in the morning, Colin would wake up to 800 comments in the Orlando thread.

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dude i was just going to post the grinder comment when i saw it

may as well do it again:

subject: ‘HEADLINE – KDUB LOVES GRINDERS’

message:
from today’s tribune:

“Chris Getz can play,” Williams said last week. "He’s a guy who is more in the Minnesota Twins-type mold. You know how I like grinders, and he’s a grinder-type guy.

He might not have the gaudy numbers, but he’s going to help win games."

by onlysoxfaninboston on Oct 8, 2008 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

Getz is who I thought he was – a utility infielder whose ceiling is as a mediocre second baseman. He deserves a long look next year, though.

My real man crush is currently in the Padres organization.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JRE likes getting knuckle-jobs

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first second or third?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which...

since Keith nicely let me pick which player I could sponsor to pay our bet, I think Getz is the guy.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

weak.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he doesn't even have a nickname yet

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds like what I would expect

Any FA signing is going to be a veteran stopgap, probably to cover a hole opened up by a trade. I would expect one big trade to get a “leadoff man”, and that’s about it.

I think the Sox want Figgins at 3B, Getz at 2B, and Richard in the rotation. So the question is what it takes to get Figgins…

by hitlesswonder on Oct 8, 2008 10:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I keep hearing the Sox want Figgins...

where does this come from? Joe Cowley liking him?

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought it was general knowledge that KW likes him.

and we all know what happens with players KW likes. of course, figgins is arguably still in his prime. seems a bit early for KW to get him. needs to ripen for a couple more years.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

check colin's projected future rosters.

i believe he’s set to be acquired in 2013.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Q was a must-get, too.

Don’t exaggggggerate.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

updated as of yesterday

so yes.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit... if we could land figgins...

we could keep ocab, and start BA in center. OR land figgins let OC go and pursue a CFER. OR land figgins let ocab go put ARam in center Getz at 2nd then go after Furcal. My eyes just rolled into the back of my head.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are not keeping OC. Not.

We also are not getting Furcal. Not.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nor are we starting BA in center.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

point is if you upgrade around him...

then he would be just fine in center.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLaying national league baseball

BA = pitcher

Just bunt dood!!!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he pitched in 17 games
appeared in 17 games as a pitcher, posting a 5.40 ERA (13 ER/21.2 IP)

http://banderson.mlblogs.com/about.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

arizona gave up on who too soon?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'd be like playing carlos gomez for a year basically

just with more pop.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and carlos gomez hits for cycles!!!

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Oct 8, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

go with the plus defense, stick his ass near the bottom of the line-up

i call it “the joe crede plan”

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 8, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey that chinaman on first take is a white sox fan!

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature

Asian American, please

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry... you knew who i was talking about right?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah brah

Just quoting The Big Lebowski.

American classic.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

suprisingly...

i’ve never seen that movie.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quite the loss.

I haven’t seen it, either.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohhhh my gooooodness.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you really surprised?

WU stil has a hard time adjusting to these “talkies” everyone is raving about

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those of you who are fully Che'd now are talking really big.

Wait until the next time you wear it – I programmed it to eat off your chest hair. (Yes, you too HSA. Don’t deny it.)

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i'm in the clear then

and come on, there’s no way i could stop doing this

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

duly noted

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe not "classic film"

but hilarious and quite rewatchable.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

grrr

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

pithy. recommended.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Should she embrace the pierzynskirules ethos

of “less is more”? If a rec will lead to that, I also rec.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you rec'd him!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, i see mine now, thank you.

you both are giant assholes.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't sacrifice objectivity for nothin, yo.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I put lebowski

…up here.

Kane down here.

by RoyEgan on Oct 8, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its no spaceballs

but it’s pretty good.

house money!!

by thecip on Oct 8, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raspberry. There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry: Lone Star!

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know I always drink coffee while looking at radar!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 9, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get all this BA bashing?

Didn’t you guys chastise me for calling him a fag and a terrible baseball player? Now you guys are talking about upgrading. When I said he couldn’t hold Juan’s jock strap at the plate toonder showed me a 3 month period (minus the last 10 games where he went 0’fer) where he batted .286. Gotta love irony.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA is a fourth outfielder

That’s how we utilized him in 2008 and he performed adequately. Jim from Sox Machine wrote a good summary about the use of BA and Wise, but I don’t have the link handy.

I can chastise you for calling him a fag for other reasons nonwithstanding…

by onlysoxfaninboston on Oct 8, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scot Moore = douche bag of year

selling his cubdumb on ebay. That is until they land sabathia then he will jump back on board. I wonder if Bartman still watches the cubs. He should sell his am/fm radio on ebay… that would net millions!

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would be at least mildly surprised...

if Sabathia ended up anywhere other than the Yankees. I think Little Stein will pull out all the stops.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC will be the worst FA signing ever.

You can put it on the board. What could be any worse than an overused Complete Choke?

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Zito

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good one.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who was the Yankee free agent pitcher who went to Georgia Tech

Kevin someone. He was pretty bad, too.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was a bad one too

there have been and will be much worse FA signings than CC

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown.

Senior moment.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought you were just holding back and not saying it

on account of you figured we all knew or something.

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

more like...

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I H-8 U.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I <3 U, WU!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you two, get a room.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too crowded.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahhahahahhaha. on fire, loser.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i·ro·ny

–noun, plural -nies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, "How nice!" when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature.
a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony.
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.

Yeah, I’m not seeing it.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

meant as a reply to WTGTD's use of irony

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was expected?

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BA starting in center field 2008.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wtgtd saying NOOOO NOOOO NOOOO!

Rest of blog changing their minds saying NOOO NOOO NOOO! After saying “give him a chance”.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you really referencing rehab?

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

referencing HAWK dood

STRETCH! NOOOOO! NOOOO! NOOOOOOO!

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

right. thanks?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh right

you’re welcome.

how rude of me.

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about...

we talk about whether Ken Williams is actually telling the truth above, or if he’s full of crap, like usual?

I, for one, would be surprised if he doesn’t bring in at least one “name” player for the lineup this winter.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

KW will wheel and deal, i'm sure.

it might be tough for him to sign a “big” FA but it’s almost ceremonial these days for KW to make a big trade.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i can see that

KW came in promising a name and was bashed when he couldn’t deliver Hunter, Fukodome, et al.

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can deliver fukodome now.

what’s one year to wait?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously

but you know what i’m getting at

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank god that didn't happen.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

too early for chebs

I’m still waiting for some bad pun here along the lines of “Whatever KW want’s he Getz” or something like that.

so I’ll get my coat again

regards

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boobs?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes!

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this guy. i'm starting to like this guy.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A question...

who is arb-eligible (and not already under contract) for 2009? Jenks? Floyd? Anderson?

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

only jenks.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bss'd

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't.

But I thought there was some sort of loophole where if a guy spent the whole year on the DL he loses a year of eligibility. I could be wrong about that.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hence why investigate his status.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Concerning payroll:

We lose 9 mil from Cabrera, 5 from Crede, 4.5 from Uribe….with some modest raises and such….shouldn’t we have 10-20 mil to play with? And, with another modest 5 mil or so overall bump(hopefully Jerry will allow Kenny at least this), can’t we be a player for 1 good free agent (example—-a guy like furcal) and another minor piece?

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

subtract 2

for GS buyout

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the angels were paying $1.5M of cabrera's

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sounds about right.

My point is I want us to be involved in free agency—- we have to be.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course.

What GM is stupid enough to tell you what he really thinks or is gonna do?

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Paxson

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Oct 8, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

RECD

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sad because it's true.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Former Cavs GM?

"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"

by Ozzie Montana on Oct 11, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You should listen to him. He doesn't lie.

KW prides himself on not intentionally misleading, so it’s not that difficult to read between the lines.

Chip, chip, chip, chip.
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Oct 8, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's Superman, too?

I thought that was me?

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

delusions of granduer?

or just dementia?

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Referencing an earlier post:

Hey, I’m like Superman, baby.
I don’t lie.
by winningugly on Oct 5, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I like quoting myself rather than speaking in the 3rd person – less arrogant.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed this yesterday, but forgot to ask....

When did we stop “Watching the Treadmill to Nowhere?”

Was that done for new post-season visitors? Are they gone yet?

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 11:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's what I have...

for guaranteed pay for 2009 -

Mark Buehrle – $14,000,000
Jim Thome – $13,000,000
Paul Konerko – $12,000,000
Jermaine Dye – $11,500,000
Javier Vazquez – $11,500,000
Jose Contreras – $10,000,000
AJ Pierzynski – $6,250,000
Octavio Dotel – $6,000,000
Nick Swisher – $5,300,000
Scott Linebrink – $4,500,000
Mike MacDougal – $2,650,000
Matt Thornton – $1,325,000
Alexei Ramirez – $1,100,000

TOTAL – $99,125,000

NOTE – Toby Hall has a 2009 option for 2,225,000 or a $150K buyout.

Guys who need a contract for 2009 -

Bobby Jenks
Gavin Floyd
John Danks
Carlos Quentin
Brian Anderson

Plus other random guys who might or might not make the roster, like Adam Russell, Chris Getz, Jason Bourgeois, Boone Logan, Clayton Richard, etc. Per larry, only Jenks will be expensive.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 11:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I say fuck Toby Hall.

Let’s get a real catcher. Christ, we can get someone better defensively than him…..he doesn’t give us anything offensively, for christs sakes. What the fuck?

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

the Phillies still pay at least 5 mil for Thome.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, good point.

Phillies will pay $5.5 million of Thome’s $13 million salary, so the total obligation is $93,625,000 + whatever they want to give Toby Hall.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

where'd you find the thome #?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb 4 u.

Link.

$22M of remaining $46M on his contract at time of trade that sends him to CHW is paid by PHI ($5.5M each season in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009)

I’m not 100% sure that’s accurate, but that’s what it says.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

possibly.

i guess that’s one way to interpret the $22M the phillies sent with thome. that seems to assume, however, that thome’s 2009 option was always going to vest. i’m not sure that’s how the teams would have structured the payments. i think it’s more likely that the phillies were paying $7.3ish million each year so far; it may be reasonable to assume that the deal included the phillies paying an equal amount for 2009 should it vest (or some portion of the buyout should it not and the sox don’t exercise it). i don’t think any of that is clear, however.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you can assume

we’re getting a good chunk judging from the way the Sox used Thome. I kinda think theyda been a bit stingier with the at-bats had they (sox0 had to pay close to the entire 13.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. the white sox did not want to make the playoffs.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That playoff HR sure cost us.

Regret it, financially.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

throughout the year…..it could have been done wisely in a baseball sense.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

yeah. i’m sure the sox would have done that. nothing like a union grievance, eh? and, just a little hint, one can make a really good argument – wait, forget ‘one’; i made this argument long ago – that the sox needed to squeeze every PA out of their best players if they hoped to make the playoffs. i’m gonna go ahead and state categorically that eliminating the 80 or whatever PAs by thome would have been the difference between playoffs and not.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, right.

if thome hadn’t stolen those 80 pa’s, the division would have been wrapped up with weeks to spare.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

WRECKED

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, we've

had this Thome vs. left-handed pitching argument before. Say whatever you will, but EACH one of the times they had him in the lineup vs. a lefty they shouldn’t have adds up to a lot. I will admit, however, he did better in most of those situations than I expected, for which I am grateful and glad to have been “wrong” in a sense——-but I will still defend every time I griped about each of those specific occasions. You could cite a million examples and provide semi-sane rationale for saying, " If such and such…..we wouldn’t be in the playoffs."

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

trust him

he’s a doctor

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's something called "facts"

try availing yourself of them.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=thomeji01&year=2008

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dfa them both and be done with it.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize that.

Maybe he should have been. I’m guessing that that was not the case in years past, but I’m too lazy to look.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoooooooooooooooooooooooosh.

yeah. maybe sit the guy with the .873 OPS against righties, far above his career average. you’re on fire today, dante.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, life is very nearly all gray.

You’re likely somewhat right.

by dantesox on Oct 8, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

punchy.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you expect to be taken seriously

if you don’t acknowledge when you are wrong, for all to see? C’mon, Doc, don’t you tell your patients it’s OK to be human? To err? To let your defenses down?

Physician, heal thyself.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pssst

this is where you give it up cuz you cannot win

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just for fun, who would have hit instead of thome in those games?

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i may have to rethink my position.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have taken them yard

I don’t fear righties or lefties.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 8, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bat speed, pitch recognition >>>>>>>>>> lack of fear

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as I get a constant dose of heaters

I’d be good. No biting curves though.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 9, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

like Jordan in more ways than one

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 10, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a gamer

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what if the 80 PAs were subtracted from his strikeouts? eh? eh? i rest my case.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a baseball sense.

“Hmmm, I don’t think we’re gonna win this one, so Jimmer, sit this one out.”

THAT baseball sense? Fer Chrissakes, dante.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt. and this coming from the good doctor of psychology.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either way...

it looks like the Sox payroll will be somewhere in the $100M – $110M range if they don’t make any changes, maybe more if they decide now is the time to give Floyd, Danks, and/or Quentin long-term deals.

I don’t know what Reinsdorf’s ceiling is, but he’d have to raise it some if he wanted to add a big name without moving payroll. Like hitless said, moving Dye seems to make more and more sense.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't a change in facts cause something to "make more and more sense"?

nothing’s changed.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

I simply meant as that the facts reveal themselves.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay, jer. not sure anything's been hidden.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying they were.

Just saying that the more I, personally, look at it, the more sense it makes to move Dye.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one knows.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That chart makes Dye seem like a real strong candidate to be traded

If the Sox can find a a team that can afford him. He still can hit and moving him is the only option to significantly lower the payroll and get some flexibility to take on a new contract. And I’m assuming that’s a goal for the offseason.

by hitlesswonder on Oct 8, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh -- I see no reason why they'd lower payroll

I could see staying the same as last season, but it’d tough for me to see Reinsdorf lower the payroll after a (albeit short) playoff appearance. Where were the Sox last season — somewhere around $110, right? Even if that figure is wrong, I’d guess the KW (if he so chooses) will have $5-10 million to add, in addition to what’s coming off the books. If that guess is correct (and there’s a whole lot of speculation in there, so it’s probably not), that’s more than enough to add a decent player plus a complementary piece. Or take on a whole contract (like, for example, Beltre making (IIRC) $12 million for next season).

by CWSKeith on Oct 8, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See above.

The Sox are around $110 million right now for 2009, even if they make no changes (and that assumes that Cabrera, Crede, Griffey, and Uribe are all gone.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it's not about lowering payroll

It’s about having the ability to acquire talent without significantly raising the payroll. If the Sox add a $7M year player through trade and sign Uribe as a backup they are very approximately $10M over this year’s payroll. I think the Sox need to move salary to clear room for any new acquisition and Dye is only significantly well-paid player that’s movable for a decent return.

I’m not calling anyone cheap here, or predicting that the Sox will sell talent simply to make a profit. I’m just guessing what their constraints are and how they will reshape the team within them.

by hitlesswonder on Oct 8, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quentin?

Not a FA, but we can offer him arb., right?

by JoeCoolMan24 on Oct 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quentin is not yet arb-eligible.

He’ll make league-minimum, or close to it, unless the Sox decide to try to lock him into a long-term contract.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Oct 8, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

although it looks like he's pretty close

he’s been in the bigs almost 2.5 years. but how do they decided if someone is in the top 17% of eligible 2 year players?

by bkool on Oct 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we should move contreras.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought he's KO'd for next season

where can kenny move him to? luckily, williams moved freddy before the arm fell off, but jose’s leg just did. KW’s good, but he ain’t no helen keller tutor.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 8, 2008 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry, i thought it was clear i was joking about trading the guy making $10M and out for the season.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clearly not

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Oct 9, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny, plz get Figgins, kthxbai

He’d be a great fit. Besides, I need a new 3B to be named after.
Also, I need a current player shirt. My collection now is quite dated: Crede, Hernandez, Garland, Contreras, Iguchi…Yikes

by Crede's Crew on Oct 8, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you chose

poorly.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok

Crede & Garland were my 2 fave players…yes, I know that makes me a weirdo here.
Got Hernandez b/c I loved him on the Yankees and was excited when we got him.
My Dad got Contreras and Iguchi for me for $5 each (amazingly while each was still on the team).

by Crede's Crew on Oct 8, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whatever you do

don’t get quentin, danks, or ramirez. no need to tempt fate. get a griffey shirt just to be safe.

by Ryno on Oct 8, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

logan would also be acceptable

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all fine choices

you’d be hard-pressed to pick wrong

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the classics never go out of style.

recently disposed of players? not so much.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like this Frank Thomas jersey I am about to get.

Just because I am bitter at Thome for collapsing in september of 06 and september/october 08. Way to get it done Thomer. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=thomeji01&year=2006 then scroll to 2008 and see how great he is when the games count.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 8, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the games in april through august were exhibitions?

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

nonsense.

I am sorry I put a little more emphasis on september games in 06 when we were looking for a leader to step up. I know the pitching collapsed but maybe JUST MAYBE a huge month by Thome gets us in and we repeat.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 9, 2008 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and when you link to things, they probably shouldn't, you know, undermine your argument?

basic rhetoric. you know, emphasize strengths, downplay weaknesses. a .941 OPS is not exactly collapsing. what you should have done was ignore 2006 and link directly to 2008. that way it would have taken me roughly 8 seconds more to rip your argument apart.

clearly what the sox lack is more cowbell.

by larry on Oct 8, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well Larry....

compared to what he did in prior months leading up to September 06 I is pretty easy to see where the argument is. Oh great he hit a homer to get us in the playoffs this year and then did nothing once we got in. He had 1 big hit and that was a leadoff double. So take your Thome “Mike Mustache” poster and shove it up your….

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 9, 2008 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

point taken

well not really, look at his BA with 2 outs and runners in scoring position. you should not link to something that does not help out your argument.

"term: pussy, user: larry, count: 11

term: pussy, user: all, count: 83" - wiz

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 9, 2008 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh. so now it's not september numbers that matter. it's 2 outs and runners in scoring postion.

well, again, i guess you shouldn’t point people to thome’s 2008 numbers then, either.

by larry on Oct 9, 2008 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

logirony it is!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That homer was a solo shot

A real run-producer would have generated more than 1 lousy rbi

by hitlesswonder on Oct 8, 2008 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if you step on each base TWICE!!

"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-

by Hazymania on Oct 8, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i apologize for not reading all of the subsections of the rule.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for malpractice

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for not taking into account my governmental immunity.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for using governmental immunity as a trump card

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for third usage

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for stealing my bit from yesterday

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for claiming any of this as your bit.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for assuming i read the entirety of the last flag chain

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for not having done so

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for flagging

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for lack of creativity

you’re better than that

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this has been a terrible subthread

i just wanted you all to know that.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

flagged for stating the obvious.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

July 30, 2008: "White Sox not likely to make a trade"

“Not right now. I just talked to [general manager] Kenny [Williams] a couple of minutes ago and we don’t have anything in mind,” said White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, who spoke briefly to Williams in his office prior to Wednesday’s pregame batting practice. “The only moves I expect to be made is when we have [Jose] Contreras, [Joe] Crede and [Scott] Linebrink back in the lineup. Then, we’ll be fine.”

Simply put, the White Sox offseason maneuvering figures to keep the team in contention for the rest of the 2008 campaign.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080730&content_id=3227001&vkey=trade2008&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by The Actual El Guapo on Oct 8, 2008 1:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ha

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 8, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh kenny you swaggery motherfucker

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

man it's not even mid-day yet.

what am i doing up?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah for sure colin

furbs slept through the alarm this morning….missed first class….so stoked…

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 8, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you have yourself a WU moment there? I think you meant "so stroked"

;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Oct 8, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

space weed

It was a good season.

by vince_ on Oct 8, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

space weed.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

omfg. it's almost 4:20!

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe for you, HPOS

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't bogart my mellow, brah...

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is this flag stuff?

everyone is on about it, so I’ve decided to flag you Col.

regards

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

awww shit.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys. Seriously. You guys...seriously. Check this out.

double boosh.

Dido + B&W Sox montage = NOSTALGIASTIC

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 6:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

whoah

what a cool little vid, I love things like this.

awesome stuff

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do they still play 'rock and roll' by Gary Glitter at the Ball Parks?

this question is about 33% serious

regards

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Cubs exercised his option

if that’s what you mean

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone called Hardon 'excercised his option'?

I’m sure there is a wanking joke in here somewhere.

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hoodlight just begging for someone to make a pun

"...fined for what, hittin' the ball into outer space?"

by Illini0509 on Oct 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. cubs exercised the $7 million option.

"well, i'm sure i'd feel much worse if i weren't under such heavy sedation."

by Toonderstrook on Oct 8, 2008 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are not on Boss' team.

Reevaluate your position in a political sense.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, I been looking up george Carlin on youtube

on fat people, very very funny

marching on together

by hoodlight on Oct 8, 2008 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he meant that our upper management just signed him.

If Harden’s arm falls off, he can still sit behind a desk. I guess.

by Cold Snowden on Oct 8, 2008 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I have it on good authority

when you go to work tomorrow your desk is the one with the pink slip on it.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

7 million isn't that much,

but now he needs an off-season job, too? Times are tough.

by Cold Snowden on Oct 8, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT - Never, EVER take a ride in the Dominican:

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) – Chicago Cubs reliever Carlos Marmol suffered minor injuries in a car accident in the Dominican Republic early Tuesday.

A truck hit a car carrying Marmol, a cousin and a friend in his hometown of Bonao near 2 a.m. The All-Star right-hander had just arrived in the Caribbean nation after the Cubs were swept by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the playoffs.

Marmol said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the air bag deployed and he suffered only a cut and an “inflammation” of his forehead.

I apologize for nothing.

by winningugly on Oct 8, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i toss a few into my daily starbucks

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 8, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what it's there for.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 8, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't need them tonight....it's wasted wednesday

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 8, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd, flagged, unrec'd, unflagged, then rec'd again.

This story … it had everything: Drama, tension, suspense, passion, swagger, savvy financial analysis, Furbosity, distribution of pornographic materials, the triumph of the human spirit, electioneering, use of the phrases “portly little fellow” and “fuckstick facility”, and roundhouse kicking.

It’s like Hemingway, Elmore Leonard, David Foster Wallace and Dostoyevsky rolled into one … except with more roundhouse kicking.

by The Actual El Guapo on Oct 8, 2008 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm gonna rec this. let that be a lesson to all of you. good things happen if we can just keep the discussion focused on me.

also, portly? furbs, did you just refer to yourself as a portly little fellow? hilarious.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that i did...that i did

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Oct 9, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Sox fan's revenge on a Cubs fan: And that, finally, was that


http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2008/10/a-sox-fan-reven.html

LOL!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Speed kills
Guillen has always said he’s wanted speed, and Williams will once again try acquiring it. Both want to make the Sox quicker next season.

‘’We have some speed right here in the clubhouse right now, but the issue, when you’re talking about Jerry Owens, Chris Getz, Josh [Fields] when he’s healthy can run a little bit, so we have that in-house,‘’ Williams added. ’’It’s just for Ozzie to make those moves, with the type of veterans we had, the power, it’s a difficult thing for me to ask of him.

‘’But we have them in-house, and we’ll be looking more for those types.’’

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1205729,CST-SPT-soxnt07.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Owens ever just go away???

Don't look back because we are going forward!

by Brush Back on Oct 8, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

50 stolen bases don't just go away

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they did this year.

You're on thin fucking ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks. Now, fuck off.

by MarketMaker on Oct 8, 2008 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bobby not a cowbell fan
‘’Dumbest thing I ever saw,’’ he said Sunday of the fans’ rallying tactic. ‘’Just annoying. Minor league.’’

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/1204041,CST-SPT-sside06.article

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BA says we got the #24 draft pick

 #23 if Seattle signs Fields

and assuming we don’t sign any Type A’s like linebrink last year

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2008/266992.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Oct 8, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that a likely high school arm spot?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Oct 8, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

prolly

"Deserve's got nothin to do with it."

by U-God on Oct 8, 2008 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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