In Ken I Trust: A Vote in Favor of the Swisher Trade
This does not appear to be the prevailing opinion this morning here at South Side Sox, but after reading some of the stories across the web, and reviewing Ken Williams' track record, I am in favor of the Nick Swisher trade to the Yankees.
We posted about it over at Midwest Sports Fans, which you are free to view if you wish:
Analysis: Nick Swisher Traded to New York Yankees - Good Move Ken
Look, I had high hopes for Swish when we got him. And we had to give up a really good pitcher in Gio Gonzalez to do so. But sometimes certain players and personalities are not good fits under certain leadership styles and in certain clubhouses.
Reading a lot of the stories about Swisher becoming a malcontent during the end of the season, and not being receptive to coaching despite his horrific struggles at the plate, it appears that the relationship between the White Sox and Nick Swisher was somewhat doomed.
One thing I've always liked about Ken Williams is that he will not stubbornly hold onto a player in hopes of proving that he was right in making a move. If Ken Williams was leading with his ego, he would try to make the Swisher deal work. As it is, the experiment was, overall, a failure for 2008 -- and in the mind of Ken Williams, who knows the clubhouse better than any of us do, the best thing was to move Swish and get something of value in return.
Betemit is not going to knock anyone's socks off, but he does provide a valuable SS-3B utility player with a little bit of pop as we transition to Alexei at short and who knows who playing 3B. Having a solid backup is good though. And that is what Swisher was by season's end -- just a backup utility guy. We have enough power-hitting OFs who can't cover ground. Why not trade him if we can fill a position of need in the process
And Jeff Marquez does have potential, though he struggled in his first stint in AAA last year. For his minor league career, he has numbers that project him to be a decent 3rd or 4th starter. With Buehrle-Floyd-Danks seeming to be our 1-2-3 for the foreseeable future, we need arms to fill the back end of the rotation. Marquez was a former first round pick who, reportedly, has a mature approach and should start to come into his own as he gets to the 25-27 age range when a lot of pitchers start to hit their stride.
At the end of the day, Ken Williams is the best GM the White Sox have had since I can remember. He hit the mark with TCQ and Alexei, but the Swish and Cabrera experiments failed. Instead of stubbornly moving forward with those two, he seems to be cutting his losses and adding value where he can.
A true assessment can't be made until we see what Marquez becomes, but Ken Williams has earned my faith so I vote in favor of the Swisher trade.
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I agree of this trade
If I was comming from the Yankee perspective.
Just because you lose faith in a guy , doesn’t mean you sell him low, Betemit has some intriguing power potential, but everything has been going the wrong way for him since he landed with the Yankees, and even on his best days he was just decent, while Swisher was GOOD.
Look, both have been relatively dissapointing over the last year, the difference is that Swisher was almost entirely BABIP influenced, while Betemit was not, he was whiffing a ton more, walking a ton less, and didn’t do what he use to do well (hit from the left side and hit for power)
by RollingWave on Nov 14, 2008 11:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You are not also known as "dasox13", are you?
If not, are you a relative?
Whoosh!
by winningugly on Nov 14, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is this how you plan to get out of paying ancestry.com for research?
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 14, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you are a cruel cruel man toonder!
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Nov 14, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you need a wire-brush up your ass to wake up!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Nov 14, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
big rec.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 14, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The thud you just heard was hoodie passing out.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on Nov 14, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Do you really have to say this. What have I ever done to you and I’m not related to anyone on this sight.
by dasox313 on Nov 14, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
site
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Nov 14, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
winningugly is a bully who thinks he's smarter than everyone else and is an asshole to those he deems inferior.
he’s basically hazing you.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 14, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
really putting that one on a tee, larry. i pass.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Nov 14, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ich, auch. Too easy.
Dasox, this is (excepting a couple of lasses) like a fraternity in the middle of the Serengeti Plain. Gotta keep up or be eaten.
Just messing with you.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on Nov 14, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah this is how WU says "hello"
Get used to it if you want to stick around…
there is always BCB if we are too mean
by 815Sox on Nov 15, 2008 8:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
did you mean in kenwo i trust?
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Nov 14, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its not so much that fact that we traded Swisher that I disagree with
More so the people we got for him. I really cannot see the upside to it at this point. Hopefully I am proven wrong.
by 815Sox on Nov 15, 2008 8:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
why i voted no.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 18, 2008 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what to call this
but it’s nut-scraping to say the least.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/82881-latest-jake-peavy-to-chicago-cubs-trade-rumbling
I don’t know what’s better, this or the first article in the “must reads” column.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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