BaseballAmerica.com: Chicago White Sox Top 10 Prospects
1. Gordon Beckham, ss
2. Aaron Poreda, lhp
3. Clayton Richard, lhp
4. Brandon Allen, 1b
5. Jordan Danks, of
6. Chris Getz, 2b
7. John Shelby, of
8. John Ely, rhp
9. Cole Armstrong, c
10. Eduardo Escobar, ss
Which looks very similar to our Community List at least at the top.
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by way of comparison, this is who he had last year.
1. Aaron Poreda, lhp
2. Lance Broadway, rhp
3. Jack Egbert, rhp
4. Jose Martinez, of
5. Chris Getz, 2b
6. John Ely, rhp
7. Juan Silverio, ss
8. John Shelby Jr., of
9. Adam Russell, rhp
10. Kyle McCulloch, rhp
which was a joke of a list. at least this list makes sense.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 1:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
In his defense
Ours looked like this
1. Fautino De Los Santos 147 2. Gio Gonzalez 144 3. Jack Egbert 109 4. Chris Carter 105 5. Ryan Sweeney 101 6. Aaron Poreda 78 7. John Shelby 63 8. Lance Broadway 55 9. Jose Martinez 49
after the trades, Egbert as #1 isn’t exactly inspiring.
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by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and it's not like the risers (Allen and Richard)
deserved to be listed last year.
Allen’s always had the tools, but didn’t look like he’d be able to put them together. And Richard had a good pitching body, and a fine athletic pedigree, but zero inspiring results.
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by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd call that a legitimate list.
except, of course, for the idiotic “i hate aaron poreda because he’s not rick porcello and carlos gomez told me to” crew that skewed the voting.
juan silverio? really?
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i find it highly enjoyable that lincecum receives a total of 9 points for mvp, while sabathia and lidge are all over 100.
these were the same guys who voted on the cy young, right?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081117&content_id=3681885&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 1:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
being good doesn't equal valuable
duh
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Nov 17, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
affeldt off the market; signs two year deal with giants
monetary terms unavailable.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/11/17/giants-sign-lhp-jeremy-affeldt/
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
damn
I was getting worried. I thought nobody was gonna sign
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by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Winter meetings next month.
Nothing happens before that.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Usually a few relievers and a few mid-level players
get picked off the board in the first hours or days of Free Agency. But nothin was happening this year
(I suppose because FA signing period started on a friday, they (functionally) extended it 3 days.)
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by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
More focused on trades, perhaps?
I may be wrong, but the trading market seemed a bit more active this November.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You might be right
there seems to be more chatter than usual right now…
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by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe other than the Evil Empires with incredible funding,
GM’s are being told to rein it in and make the assets they have to work with more efficient.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well then i'm writing secretary paulson
we can’t allow the FA market to seize up. it’s become too large for us to let it fial. that’s why as part of our next stimulus package, we need to authorize the fine gentlemen of the treasury department to buy up all of these bad FA contracts on the books so that GMs and owners have the ability to keep day-to-day operations going and handing out retarded contracts.
let’s do it. for america.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Nov 17, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
giants didn't get the memo about collusion.
they’re an incompetent organization, remember? can’t even get that shit right.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gonzalez on waiver claim and joey cora
White Sox claim pitcher from Toronto
By Mark Gonzales
The White Sox claimed right-handed pitcher Kelvim Jimenez off waivers from Toronto and placed him on the 40-man roster.
Jimenez, 28, spent the 2008 season in the Cardinals organization, posting a 1-6 record and 2.92 ERA with 12 saves in 46 games at Triple-A Memphis. He had a 5.63 ERA in 15 games with St. Louis.
The Blue Jays claimed Jimenez off waivers on Nov. 3. Jimenez has 617 strikeouts in 728 innings in nine minor league seasons.
….
The Sox should know no later than Tuesday whether bench coach Joey Cora will be hired as Seattle’s next manager. By Cora’s recent comments in Seattle newspapers regarding the position and the Mariners’ future, he sounds optimistic about his chances.
Cora has ample knowledge of the Mariners’ player personnel, but it remains to be seen which direction new GM Jack Zduriencik will steer toward.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
offical release.
40 man at 33 now.
link to his stunning career stats.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jimenke01.shtml
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's about enough cynicism out of you for one week, young man.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
...why?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's possible KW believes that he doesn't have enough masset in his system.
however, we all know that’s not possible. at least outside of an atom smasher.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the FAT of the land has its appeal i guess
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i suppose if you're one of those sabrmetric losers who thinks that shit is funny.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a Prodigy joke?
You firestarter, you.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pierzynskirules?
where you been, girl?
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes.
"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ
by omnipotent grab on Nov 18, 2008 12:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i've had way more than my phil of this a$$hole.
Righty Adam Russell also had his moments in the bullpen, winning three games in one nine-day span.
that’s the phil rogers i know and can’t stand.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
those are approximately the only moments i recall russell having.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He could've mentioned it was in about 10 pitches, too.
He has some restraint.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he had a nice 20 pitches over 1 2/3 and ended up with 3 wins to show for it.
between the 2nd and 3rd he had a shit outing against the a’s and immediately after the third he had two horsehit outings. definitely ready to assume a prominent role.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you just shut up, meanie.
adam is awesome!!!
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't blame russell.
he’s just like mackowiak…misused. there were plenty of times when he was the key to winning that ozzie refused to put him in the game.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's stupid. blame russell. he didn't want it enough for ozzie to put him in.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if only nessie had been more like slash.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - incorporating hose$hIT nicknames into posts about other hose$hIT nicknames.
Your creative fire is still blazing. Still honked off?
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe about your "hose$hit" spelling.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Check your own a few posts ago, glass house inhabitant.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In case you need help:
between the 2nd and 3rd he had a shit outing against the a’s and immediately after the third he had two horsehit outings. definitely ready to assume a prominent role.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
double-paned bulletproof glass.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like a flowbee.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nessie, plz. Use the warm and fuzzy nickname.
And, larry, come on now. You were looking for him in a few late-season games when Ho-Ram and Tabasco were being trotted out instead.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't like the nickname.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if God can go back on his rule of
No Phil on My Thread the whole world has been turned upside down.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i can do whatever i want.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wu thinks he's the boss of everyone because he's old.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course You can.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so what's the problem.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So, boys, what is next for Kenny? Predictions?
By the way….Baseball Prospectus MUCH LESS harsh on the Swisher trade…..much less. I am like most of you….disappointed….but only slightly.
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
baseball prospectus is so 2006.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, he's a doctor - almost.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A doctor in my mind.
You avoided my question, boys.
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
doc, i think i may be avoiding your questions because my mom yelled at me once.
for answering the questions of pseudo-doctors.
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by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better question: what might you attempt to do?
Leaves one open to second guessing.
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i posted my offseason plan already, chief.
someone even made it into a fanpost. i guess i’m that fucking good.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember. Boring as hell.
I mean given what has happened. I’m asking for kind of a combination what you think Kenny should be attempting knowing his needs and his tendencies. As I remember, yours was kind of a stand pat plan along the lines of what Jerry Royster might submit. I’m not necessarily saying that’s a bad move….but just not even close to the way Kenny will procede. For that matter….probably not what would make for any excitement, either== attendance/$.
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in the current economic climate
a stand pat plan may be one of the best non-moves you can make.
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by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve seen a lot of positives views on the deal. Doesn’t change my opinion we got garbage for a valuable asset.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 17, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what I can't understand about is
why move so fast (on Swisher)? If they wanted him out fine, but surely they could have waited to see what other teams may have offered.
Or maybe Williams just couldn’t wait to get rid of him because of other reasons, but all that kind of stuff is speculation. All we have to go on is his numbers and they say he was undersold.
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by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a fear of mine with Kenny.....and the first thing I thought of when I heard the deal.
Even so, if those are the driving forces, it doesn’t necessarily mean it will TURN OUT bad….he deserves some benefit of the doubt given recent history.
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all too human
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i knew that when i watched him try to hit big league pitching.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he's no billy beane, that's for sure.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dont start a's lover
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. i love the a's. like so much.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
I’m with you. Ever since being mocked in Moneyball, he has been completely driven to either shove it down Billy’s throat and/or prove to the world he’s just as good. Funny. Both are likely egomaniacs…..but I don’t care. Maybe that’s not so terrible. How’s this….as long as Kenny is honest with himself that these are the dynamics in place….then at least he won’t allow that fact to affect his rationale for any specific move…yet not denying what is truly happening psychologically. Damn….I think the Sox should hire me as a psychological consultant….will you put in a good word for me, lar?
by dantesox on Nov 17, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope not.
“Pretend you are on a ship endlessly rocking” isn’t what any of the Sox cast members (yes, I referred to them as “cast members”) need.
Put away the DSM IV.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you prick his finger...
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he'll trade you for a bucket of baseballs and a fungo bat.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I think you reversed what I said.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
.disa i tahw desrever uoy kniht i, on
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Asid"?
Sounds nefarious to me.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dammit!
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I"m still going with financial
This move eliminates not only Swisher’s salary, but also the need to consider bringing Juan back. So in a sense – KW just cleared the books of a fairly large financial burden. For that matter, I expect KW to not sign any free agents this year, expect to see Armstrong as the backup catcher and a couple other minor league players making an appearence.
Part of my thought is based on a survey the Sox sent to season ticket holders before the end of the season – there were quite a few questions regarding the economy and its impact on spending with the team. There were also questions regarding how the fans would like to see a team structured and assembled.
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on Nov 17, 2008 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see Armstrong as a backup
Two lefty-hitting catchers?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Nov 17, 2008 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why does getting rid of Swisher
eliminate the consideration to keep Uribe?
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ok get it now
do you you think that will be Betemit’s role, a utility man, filling in in numerous positions or the starting third baseman? (bearing in mind that KW was bigging up Josh Fields only a couple of weeks ago).
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Fields/Betemit platoon
seems to be our best option for optimizing the offensive production at 3rd (working only with parts we have now)
by 3E8 on Nov 17, 2008 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
makes it more unlikely that they
will sign that Cuban lad then I guess, well not for loads of cash anyway.
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the cuban lad is 19 and likely won't even sniff the dirty panties of the show for a while.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his agent says he his ready and is looking for a deal to match that expectation
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by hoodlight on Nov 17, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
should his agent say he isn't ready?
betemit has two years of arbitration left, iirc. even if you think viciedo is all that and a bag of low fat frito-lays, that should coincide nicely with when he would arrive.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe you're right. if somebody that objective thinks he's ready, he probably is.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i can't remember the last teenager to compete successfully in the big leagues
which technically isn’t what the ML deal necessitates, but it certainly asks him to compete well before more are asked to. not to mention it eliminates a significant portion of the benefit of having young players, namely long term cost control.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how soon we forget general soreness.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was going through old baseball cards
Seeing his 1989 upper deck card always makes me laugh…. he has a shit mustache…. it’s fantastic…
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how soon we forget King Felix
phttth
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 6:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was rather thinking of players who actually played a full season or close to it.
considering his results the past three seasons, i think the phrase “sample size” is in full effect.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 18, 2008 8:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmm dirty panty show.....
sorry i got sidetracked
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Betemit
Career
237 games at 3rd .948 Fielding percentage
79 games at ss .954
17 games at 2nd .986
Uribe 2008
57 games at 3rd .960
52 games at 2nd .996
4 games at ss 1.000
Fields career minor league
437 games at 3rd .927
I hope that betemit / fields platoon isn’t a huge hole on defense.
Oh torpedo boat, you were sound on defense….
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it might be, but i wouldn't look at fielding percentage to determine if it is.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's actually a lot better than previously expected
since the “more range = more errors” theory was kind of debunked.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for the correction. standing down, your highness.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
either way
You could be right…. i just posted the numbers for all to see…. you can take it for what it is worth
Miguel Cabrera was 20 when he broke in with the Marlins and won the world series in 2003..
Thats the youngest player I can recall having great success
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well it's still not better than the d-metrics
but there is some value there.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a decent thought, though it does assume a Fields/Betemit platoon
that’s about an $8M gain. i don’t see us signing a CF from this market, but that would be about enough for a mid-range starter.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
mid range starter...?
we are already loaded with 4’s and 5’s
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i posted my own "larry plan" re: starters
1)Danks
2)Buerhle
3)Vazquez
4)Gavin
5)The Unit/Richard/Poreda
That kind of depth projects to do what every Kenny team since the 5th Starter Debacle has done: get more IP from non-replacement level starters than anyone else in the league. Richard would be swingman/long/loogy in that scenario while Poreda could move at his leisure. If Vazquez gets dealt for a CF as may be the case, such a signing makes all the more sense. FWIW, Getz really likes Richard to stick as a decent starter. But then again he was in Clayton’s wedding.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're forgetting something
I’ll give you a hint. It’s KW’s number one acquisition this offseason! We don’t need Richard to be a starter.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 6:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Marquez?
Nope.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
D:
but 1st round… Coop… Jon Garland!
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Marquez is an adequate starter next year, Coop deserves instant Hall enshrinement.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah we should have some dough
just from getting rid of our extra outfielder (swish) 3.6 mil, third (crede) 5.1 mil, utility/3rd (uribe) 4.5 mil
12.7 mil
- betemit/fields
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thome takes back a big chunk of that.
so will bobby.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tru..... forgot we had to pay the big guys
they gotta eat
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i still can't figure out an answer for the timing.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i like ego and impatience
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll just say that i bet it's easy to take money from KW in poker when he's not getting great cards.
impatient.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
seconded
I think that maybe it had something to do with signing uribe last year, then trading for O Cab. Maybe he’s trying to do things in order this year…
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind Hank White..... but he might bost a little too much
Varitek, Type A: .220, 13 HRs, 43 RBIs
Rodriguez, Type A: .276, 7 HRs, 35 RBIs
Gregg Zaun, Type B: .237, 6 HRs, 30 RBIs;
Paul Lo Duca (Type B, Nationals)
Javier Valentin (Reds)
David Ross (Red Sox)
Toby Hall (White Sox)
Henry Blanco (Cubs)
Johnny Estrada (Nationals)
Adam Melhuse (Rockies)
Vance Wilson (Tigers)
Chad Moeller (Yankees)
Brad Ausmus (Astros)
Paul Bako (Reds)
Josh Bard (Padres)
Michael Barrett (Padres).
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
correction cost
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Nov 17, 2008 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
Lets get Barrett and see who really would win in a fight- him or AJ
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or not
considering he hasn’t been worth shit since that season
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 17, 2008 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was making a sarcastic comment
get the stick out of your tush.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hey look
it’s the number one butthead himself. now everyone else reply and laugh with larry and his lame commentary like usual!
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
damn right i'm number one.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
number 1 asshat.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that one is all yours
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am number 1
2 is not a winner and 3 nobody remembers.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiban, Numero Uno, Nummer Eins.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm number 337
How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.
by Hoytsstash on Nov 17, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest with you if I had to pick one of these back up catchers.........
I would have to go with the brother of Suavamente Jose Valentin….. Javier is a decent enough player and has an OK stick. His arm isn’t as good as it once was but hell anything is an improvement over Toby.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tango's marcel projections now available
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 17, 2008 5:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just found the Sox move to Phoenix/Glendale is probably a done deal...
Was having a beer at a bar here in Phoenix. A guy came up to me, saw my Sox hat, said he’s been workin on the move from Tuscon, should be announced tomorrow night. By the way, he bought me a beer cuz of the hat, as if you wanted to know.
Beer tastes good.
How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.
by Hoytsstash on Nov 17, 2008 6:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think spring training is half of the reason the Arizona/florida more specifically florida teams have trouble
drawing interest. Most of the people that have been down there for a long time are fans of the teams who train by them. I had relatives in Sarasota that loved the White Sox because of their training days down there.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Affirmative, Kenwo.
Further, when the DBacks were in their first season, the local media thought it necessary to make sure they explained the rules of the game to the audience on the TV during games. No sht. It was comical. For instance “A hit and run is when…” A sac fly happens when…." I felt as though I was back living in Europe.
Everybody out here is from somewhere else, and like Florida, alot of retirees.
Too many Cub fans
How could he lose the ball in the sun....he's from Mexico.
by Hoytsstash on Nov 17, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Freely Available Talent
http://statspeak.net/2008/11/freely-available-talent.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Remember when D'Angelo Jiminez was half way decnet
he fell off very quick.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 17, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Kemp's 2008 Was Pretty Special
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/11/15/662160/matt-kemp-s-2008-was-prett
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2008 7:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I love how Beckham has no vote for any of the top organizational skills/tools.
Just as advertised.
Somehow I have a hard time believing Danks, Poreda and Floyd will be better than Buehrle in 4 years, whoever they’re pitching for.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Danks and Floyd have better stuff, they are younger and in four years Buehrle will be getting pretty old, Danks and Floyd will still be in their prime.
by Grinder in Training on Nov 18, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Consider the source Daniel-san
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Nov 18, 2008 8:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what re: Becks?
If he is the best “all-around” ballplayer who cares if he has the best arm, or the best bat, or the best glove? I’d like someone to not just have the skills but be able to utilize them the best.
Awfully cynical re: MB, since Danks probably had a better all-around year than Mark this year. with his bro in the organization I bet Johnny sticks around awhile.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 18, 2008 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention that those categories are fairly silly.
justin greene and sal sanchez are really going to be helped by being fastest baserunner (who cares? how about best?) and best outfield arm.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 18, 2008 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't teach speed.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Nov 18, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you can teach baserunning.
free chris getz!
by larry on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a good draft pick for multiple reasons
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 18, 2008 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they're not saying he's gonna suck
pretty much just that he’ll be 33 while danks will be 27, floyd will be 29, and poreda will be 25 so the odds are they’ll be better
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 18, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant all of them being better. That's a slim-to-none chance.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 18, 2008 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not really
If Danks maintains and Floyd keeps improving over the next 4 years, they would both be better. And Poreda is supposed to be pretty good.
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 18, 2008 5:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Too many variables
One of them’s going to regress or not make it, and Buehrle won’t need his velo as much as a normal 33-year-old declining pitcher.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 18, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he also won't be as good as he currently is as a 33 year old pitcher
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 18, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jayson Nix is
0 – 21 in his last 7 games in the Mexican Pacific League.
Sox in 2009!
by ballyb on Nov 18, 2008 11:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
happy tuesday to you, too.
"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."
by Toonderstrook on Nov 18, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Willie Mays was 0-24 before his first major league hit.
And it was a home run.
Yes. Jayson Nix is the next Willie Mays. (Willie at age 60.)
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 18, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or more apropo,
Abraham Lincoln declared personal bankruptcy before he was elected president.
Sox in 2009!
by ballyb on Nov 18, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And then was shot in the head.
How is that an improvement?
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 18, 2008 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
more aerodynamic
like dimples on a golf ball
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Nov 18, 2008 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ba-ZING!
I was thinking a Wiffle ball.
it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.
by winningugly on Nov 18, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lincoln had a hell of a slider
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Nov 19, 2008 4:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was thoroughly opposed to throwing splitters though
I hope there isn't a rapiest ape.
by U-God on Nov 19, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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