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White Sox Fall/Winter League Update

Deadhorse_tiny by larry on Comment 268 comments

we've reached approximately the halfway point of the arizona fall league and white sox prospects have largely acquitted themselves quite well. the addition of jordan danks to the sags roster after the injury to gartrell certainly was a welcome bit of news (danks originally was not included because teams are only allowed to add one player below the AA level and beckham obviously trumps - apparently, however, the rules are relaxed for replacements).

i should note that the sample sizes here are ridiculously small so drawing conclusions from these performances is actually pretty silly. however, obviously one would prefer to see players excel in whatever sample size, as opposed to playing poorly. and a player can improve or hurt their stock with an AFL performance, simply because it is considering a prospect finishing school and scouts don't have much else to do right now other than watch this. these scouts also have the advantage of actually seeing the players, as opposed to just looking at their stats, which can probably tell you more in the small sample sizes than performance.

at any rate, reviewed in order of performance.

cole armstrong: he's certainly opened some eyes. he's lived up to his repuation as a good defensive catcher but has added a very nice offensive performace: .321/.377/.571. articles have spoken of him "staying back on the ball" more in the AFL, which helps his power. if true, perhaps this performance is a sign of things to come.

aaron poreda: it's almost cruel to make teams face poreda for one inning. poreda has been merciless - 7 appearances, each one inning, with no runs allowed, 6 hits, 3 walks, and 11 Ks. if you're wondering if these one inning appearances mean anything for how the sox plan to use him, don't read too much into it. harrell is the white sox designated "starter" in the AFL so he gets the innings and the starts.

gordon beckham: he's not the sags' designated SS so he's moved around the field a bit, playing some 2B as well. nice line of .278/.400/.361 against the most advanced competition he's seen. eyewitness reports indicate his fielding has been slick. this performance is what you want to see from beckham.

derek rodriguez: has done nothing but improve his case for a 40 man roster spot and a chance to audition for the bullpen. his overall line isn't pretty - 8 IP, 10 hits, 4 BB, 1 HB, 9K - however, most of that bad stuff is from one horrid outing.

carlos torres: on the other hand, torres has done nothing but hurt his chances. after a good season, it looked like he might have upped his ceiling from AAA level arm to backend bullpen fodder. in contrast to rodriguez, he's had multiple poor outings so his line isn't misleading - 8.2IP, 13 hits, 6 BB, 2 HB, 8K.

maurice/stefan gartrell: before separating his shoulder, he played pretty well: .269/.406/.346. he's nothing exciting long term.

lucas harrell: 5G, 11.2IP, 16 hits, 10 K, 4 BB. 3 good outings, 2 terrible outings.  hasn't taken the step forward that the sox would have liked, considering his addition to the 40 man last year. time is running out for this guy. next year is make or break and his AFL campaign hasn't set the stage very well.

jordan danks: only four games but what a four games: 9-16, .563/.611/.813, SB, outfield assist - can't ask for much better, especially against the most advanced competition he's seen. while we all hate to see players injured, gartrell's shoulder is the MVP of the white sox offseason so far because, otherwise, danks would be playing against low level competition in the instructional league. instead he's getting to face excellent prospects and, frankly, his development is far more important than gartrell's.

EDIT: i should have mentioned for comparison purposes that the AFL is an inflated environment for offense. back of the envelope calculation is that league average OBP is .365ish and slugging is .460ish.

Star-divide

in other action, recent signing jayson nix has played well in the mexican winter league: .266/.341/.405. the plate discipline still seems to be an issue considering the 25 K in 87 PAs. the competition is probably between AA/AAA, with a heavy mix of AAA type lifers.

there are other white sox organization players playing in winter leagues, but they ain't that important.

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I'm sure you've been asked this before lar...

but do you think the likelihood is still strong that Poreda ends up a SP? I know you’re not an oracle, but reading the various idiotic beat-writers and message board posters that insist Poreda is Matt Thornton v. 2 and is destined for the bullpen is quite bothersome.

by Craig Grebeck on Nov 3, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he'll be a starter until he shows he can't.

i think there will be calls all over the place (already seeing it at another sox board) for poreda to be the second lefty in the pen next year. the sox should, and i believe will, resist this temptation. he’s shown that he’s very capable as a starter at the AA level. he’s got to do that at the AAA level now (likely where he’ll start next year) but i’ve seen nothing that says he can’t do that. or that he can’t do that at the major league level. he simply needs to develop his secondary stuff more. and whether that occurs is anyone’s guess.

the bottom line is that he’s obviously far more valuable as a starter than in any role out of the pen. i think we already know with certainty that he easily has the floor of a pretty good set up man – his stuff is absolutely vicious in that role. he could do that right now for the white sox. but his ceiling is a #2 or 3 starter. bullpen help for 2009 is not nearly an adequate tradeoff for him failing to at least have the chance to reach such a ceiling.

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by larry on Nov 3, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ty

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 3, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

white sox minor league coaches
Chicago White Sox
2009 Player Development Staff Assignments

Player Development Instructors
Director of Player Development: Buddy Bell
Field Coordinator: Nick Capra
Pitching Coordinator: Kirk Champion
Hitting Coordinator: Jeff Manto
Outfield Instructor: Daryl Boston
Infield Instructor: Ron Oester
Bunting/Baserunning Instructor: Manny Trillo
Latin Roving Instructor: Jose Bautista
Conditioning Coordinator: Dale Torborg
Minor League Training/Rehab Coordinator: Scott Takao

Class AAA Charlotte
Manager: Chris Chambliss
Pitching Coach: Richard Dotson
Hitting Coach: Gary Ward
Trainer: Scott Johnson
Conditioning: Chad Efron

Class AA Birmingham
Manager: Everado Magallanes
Pitching Coach: J.R. Perdew
Hitting Coach: Andy Tomberlin
Trainer: Joe Geck
Conditioning: Raymond Smith

Class A Kannapolis
Manager: Ernie Young
Pitching Coach: Larry Owens
Hitting Coach: Greg Briley
Trainer: Kevin Pillifant
Conditioning: Tim Rodmaker

Class A Winston-Salem
Manager: Joe McEwing
Pitching Coach: Bobby Thigpen
Hitting Coach: Robert Sasser
Trainer: Josh Fallin
Conditioning: Adam Tischler

Advanced Rookie Great Falls
Manager: Chris Cron
Pitching Coach: Brian Drahman
Hitting Coach: Olmedo Saenz
Trainer: TBD
Conditioning: Jeremie Imbus
Advanced Rookie Bristol
Manager: Ryan Newman
Pitching Coach: Curt Hasler
Hitting Coach: Jerry Hairston
Trainer: Cory Barton
Conditioning: Ibrahim Rivera

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20081103&content_id=3661132&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 2:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No wonder: the ex-Cub factor...

Bunting/Baserunning Instructor: Manny Trillo

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Nov 3, 2008 2:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you. This post is reminiscent of Jim's Place...

but with more people.

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Nov 3, 2008 2:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sss is like a group home for the recently unincarcerated.

whereas soxmachine is like a condemned house used by squatters and vagrants.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 3, 2008 11:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you shouldn't let your guest blogger overshadow you.

http://aflwhitesox.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/10/guest_blogger_cole_armstrong.html

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 3:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think i would like to see this at the top on the left for 2 weeks

done

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dammit

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 4:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you roll over so easily.

just say that it’s on the top left for you. what are people going to do, come to your house and check?

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 4:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have no problem admitting when i fuck up

and that happens quite often on this site

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 5:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Nov 3, 2008 5:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how you doin'?

"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."

by larry on Nov 4, 2008 12:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

stance

once again, thanks to scenario at soxtalk. more there.

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67854&pid=1788242&st=120&#entry1788242

"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."

by larry on Nov 4, 2008 12:37 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seems to have good balance

looks like his swing mechanics have improved since sophomore year.

Let’s hope Danks can maintain this success, it’s pretty astounding. We might actually have a competent center fielder in the next few years, dare I say. Maybe even a real leadoff hitter! And decide on a goddamn quote.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 4, 2008 12:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really loading up that backside

but helps himself turn with his toes canted like that. so the force of the swing should still be there.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 4, 2008 1:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know, probably shouldn't be analyzing from a single still photograph, carlos.

"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."

by larry on Nov 4, 2008 1:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's been well documented that

i’ll put pretty much anything into a comment.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 4, 2008 3:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Joe Morganesque chicken wing flap is awesome.

But it probably doesn’t help his power that he does the Tony Gwinn leg kick, only to step a little bit backwards like Jeff Bagwell.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 6, 2008 1:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sickels on the big 3

His mistake was trusting his eyes/scouts with Beckham.

Some Thoughts on Arizona
  by John Sickels on Nov 4, 2008 12:14 PM PST
Some interesting players I saw in Arizona.

J.P. Arencibia, C, Toronto Blue Jays: His power is obvious, as are his issues with breaking balls. I thought his arm looked quite strong and he is mobile for a big guy. My opinion hasn’t changed…like the power, worry about the batting average and OBP against good pitching.

Gordon Beckham, SS, Chicago White Sox: I caught some buzz from other observers that people are concerned about his swing: they don’t like the way it looks, kind of “choppy” was how one person described it to me. Scouts were also downplaying his range, and at least one person I spoke with said Beckham really didn’t look like a guy who was drafted in the first round. I will admit that he did not strike me either strongly positive or strongly negative in the one game I saw him play. I wouldn’t make too much of this just yet, we need to see more out of him, but some people are concerned.

Andrew Carignan, RHP, Oakland Athletics: He has really good bite on his breaking ball. Didn’t get a velocity reading but fastball looked above average.

Jordan Danks, OF, Chicago White Sox: playing well in Arizona, and I thought he was very interesting coming out of Texas in the first place. Speed and athleticism are highly impressive, and he controls the zone well. Some scouts theorize that he may be a guy who hits better with wood than aluminum. Still some concerns about his power, but he could be a Steve Finley/Brady Anderson type, and I mean that in a good way.

Sean Doolittle, 1B, Oakland Athletics: Hitting well down here, but I thought his swing looked long, certainly longer than it looked in college. Maybe he is trying to hit for more power? He played with more energy than most players down here.

Jeff Manship, RHP, Minnesota Twins: Solid fastball, average velocity but some movement, seemed to have some problems locating his secondary pitches, which was the same knock on him in Double-A. Looked kind of tired to me, not unusual given the long season.

Aaron Poreda, LHP, Chicago White Sox: Impressive velocity from the left side in the 90-94 range. Good slider. He has been sharp down here in a relief role, and I could see him as possibly a future closer if they don’t think his changeup will hold up as a starter.

Danny Valencia, 3B, Minnesota Twins: HIs swing looked longer than I expected. Decent throwing arm, but I thought his range afield was pretty mediocre, though reports from the regular season indicate an improved glove. Has had some problems with strike zone judgment in Arizona and that could be an issue for him going forward.

Brett Wallace, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals: Huge butt. Like Bob Hamelin type butt. But his bat is absolutely for real. Massive power potential to all fields and he should hit for average as well. On defense, he has the arm for third base. He has more range than you might expect, and I think he can be a below-average but not horrible defender at third in the short run. The problem I see is what happens when he starts, inevitably, to lose his range. Even a minor diminuation in mobility will make him untenable at third. But the bat, yeah, I love the bat.

Eric Young Jr, OF, Colorado Rockies: One of the few guys I mentioned who was playing with tons of energy and enthusiasm. He opened up his swing a bit more since I saw him in April. Works the count. Very fast obviously. Hit a nice home run in the game I saw, though he tends to overswing when he gets power-conscious. They are using him in the outfield right now since his second base defense won’t be better than average. A lot of fun to watch.

More Tomorrow.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 4, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooh Finley and Brady Anderson

gotta hold to the players can only be compared to players of the same race rule…

Danks will have considerably more power than those two did before the sauce.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 4, 2008 6:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brett Wallace will be one to keep an eye on

he seemed to be as much a lock as anyone to hit as anybody in the draft. I’ve seen only a few pictures of him and can no way picture him at third, but if his bat’s worth it, why not?

by CWSKeith on Nov 5, 2008 12:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT KW!!!

i’ve been talking up poreda. buddy bell has been talking up poreda. everybody’s been talking up poreda. and you fail to trade him before he shits the bed. moron.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_04_msswin_peswin_1

we’ll never get rid of a douchebag who is so undisciplined so as to be unable to handle the clutch pressures of a tuesday afternoon AFL game against mesa. .2 IP, 5 runs, 3 hits, 2 walks, no strikeouts, wild pitch. you’re horseshit, aaron. horseshit. carlos gomez was right. i hope you drown in front of your children.

"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."

by larry on Nov 4, 2008 4:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fucking awesome as always larry thanks

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Nov 4, 2008 5:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you trying to hijack this fanpost from larry? you know it's his baby, right?

good for you. i mean, fuck it. nobody reads this shit anyway.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 5, 2008 11:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not as much as he did today

5-5 w/ 2HR a 3B and 7 RBI…

Armstrong also went deep and walked 3 times, as the Sags scored 20 despite Danks finding a way to go 0-5. At least he walked once.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 6, 2008 4:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0-5?

that guys sucks. can we trade him for an a-ball reliever?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 7, 2008 8:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like this one

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 6, 2008 1:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice form.

Head DOWN! Excellent.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 6, 2008 2:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beckham fails to hit for cycle; impudence in hitting another home run instead of double should fit in well in chicago.

armstrong decided to play well, too; or maybe scottsdale pitching was shell-shocked by beckham’s bludgeonings before his plate appearances and couldn’t find the plate when cole batted. danks sucked in comparison to everyone else, only drawing a walk, but he did steal a base and had an outfield assist.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2008_11_06_scowin_peswin_1&sid=l119

by larry on Nov 6, 2008 4:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no cycle?

featherbrain…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 6, 2008 6:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

scot gregor
Looking ahead, Beckham is likely headed for a split 2009 season between Class AA Birmingham and AAA Charlotte. The 22-year-old infielder figures to join the White Sox in September, when rosters expand.

Interestingly, Beckham has been mainly playing second base in the AFL. Shortstop is his preferred position, but Alexei Ramirez is going to be there for at least the next three years. Maybe the Sox move Beckham to second base; maybe they use him at third.
If he keeps hitting, the White Sox will gladly find a spot for Beckham.

http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/897

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 6, 2008 7:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry is better informed about why Beckham is at 2B than Gregor

It’s possible Beckham moves to 2B, but I don’t see that happening until Alexe proves he can play SS. And someone needs to fix Gregor’s sentence about 3B: “…maybe they use him at third, but that would be asinine.”

by hitlesswonder on Nov 6, 2008 8:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

iirc, he's not the "desiognated" shortstop

I posted it due to gregor’s timetable: september callup next year!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 6, 2008 8:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not the designated shortstop either

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 7, 2008 8:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not too argue, but...

It seems unlikely to me a college SS would be better suited to 3B than 2B and I think Beckham’s bat would play much better at 2B.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 6, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Surely any bat plays better at 2nd than 3rd?

by The Big Hurt on Nov 6, 2008 9:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It could turn out that the Sox have a greater need for 3B than middle infield.

If that is so, than 3B is easier to play anyway. It isn’t like he’ll forget to play 2B if they need him to in the future, and his range is supposedly a problem up the middle so it could work out for the best. This isn’t fantasy baseball we’re playing, and in real life the actual defense that is played at a position is pretty crucial to a team’s success. I’d rather have Gordon Beckham playing third than Josh Fields, I can tell you that much.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 7, 2008 7:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my range is a problem up the middle too

especially on Friday nights after 14 pints of Tetleys and a gram of amphetamine sulphate.

Wear your poppy with pride.

by hoodlight on Nov 7, 2008 12:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not good mate

still no sign, people are still letting fireworks off and that will continue this weekend so I am hoping he’ll return next week, or when he gets hungry, he’s too lazy to catch mice and shit like that.

thanks for asking though

Wear your poppy with pride.

by hoodlight on Nov 7, 2008 12:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Leeds has always been a big speed town

I’m gonna raise your roof
I’ll ring your bell and that’s the truth
Speed don’t kill and I’m the proof
Just call me Snaggletooth

Wear your poppy with pride.

by hoodlight on Nov 8, 2008 5:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i figured peoria

would be all about meth for all the hicks and shit

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Nov 16, 2008 1:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitching
John, which pitcher impressed you the most while you were there?

by RoyalsFan4Life on Nov 6, 2008 7:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

pitching
eh….I thought the pitching was pretty lousy in the games I saw. Not much stood out. Poreda looked very good.

by John Sickels on Nov 6, 2008 8:55 PM CS

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/11/6/655386/yet-more-arizona-fall-leag#comments

by larry on Nov 7, 2008 9:00 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not much stuck out

Yet.. Poreda looked very good and was worth mentioning?

by Grinder in Training on Nov 7, 2008 10:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm..

It seems I should probably stop drinking so much on Thursday nights if I want to form coherant thoughts the next day.

by Grinder in Training on Nov 7, 2008 12:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

white sox minor league free agents.
Chicago White Sox (20)
RHP: Tony Bremon (DSL), Jason Childers (AAA), Hector Eusebio (DSL), Franklyn German (AAA), Luis Marte (DSL), Tomo Ohka (AAA), Juan Rojas (DSL), Jose Rosario (DSL)
LHP: Ryan O’Malley (AA), Scott Sauerbeck (AAA), Joe Torres (AA)
C: Paul Phillips (AAA), Erick San Pedro (AA)
1B: Brett Bonvechio (Hi A), Brad Eldred (AAA), Royce Huffman (AAA)
2B: Fernando Cortez (AAA), Victor Mercedes (AA)
OF: Jeff DaVanon (AAA), Estee Harris (Hi A)

everyone else’s at link.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1786#more-1786

by larry on Nov 7, 2008 10:22 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about some smoking hot white sox minor league player internet video?

poreda (warm-up plus full inning so only click if you have 5+ minutes) and jordan danks (he doesn’t like to take pitches so if you’ve got 13 seconds, short attention span college pot smokers of SSS, this is your video). thank you slacker george.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/11/7/656062/arizona-fall-league-video

notice anything carlos gomez?

by larry on Nov 7, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he walks around like he's got baseballs in his back pockets.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 7, 2008 4:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beckham on BA's 'how to pickup an arizona honey' advice

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 7, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if BA sees this, you might end up with a pile of dead satisfied honeys in your bed.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 7, 2008 8:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We can only hope.

Of course, he might just be employed by the Sox to scan this site when his offense becomes so horrible his defense can’t justify his spot on the team, so this may become a reality.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 7, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i always thought BA looked like he wanted to be a dentist

I wish he was in my fantasy league. id bury that cocksucker- KenWo4Life

by Hawk is God on Nov 16, 2008 1:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

derek rodriguez saves the bacon of top prospect ross detwiler

comes in with two outs after ross got clubbed around and strands the inherited runner. danks kind of sucks now; also had a throwing error. beckham was decent.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_08_scowin_peswin_1

by larry on Nov 8, 2008 4:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

derek can miss bats

I wonder if he’s primed for the Sox pen.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 8, 2008 4:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but not right now

i’ve got to study

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 8, 2008 4:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does she share the chin?

I forgot what she looks like.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Nov 8, 2008 5:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

chin is evident

not to the degree of the boys

http://www.rockvolleyball.org/news.htm

I’d still hit…er…spike…er…yeah.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 8, 2008 9:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

puerto rican league returns; javy finds intensity of competition more to his liking.

Cangrejeros de Santurce:
Sergio Miranda, SS
Ryan O’Malley, RP
Matt Anderson, RP
Sandy Alomar, C (sign him KW!)

Criollos de Caguas:
Fernando Hernandez, RP
John Lujan, RP
Joseph Torres, RP (free agent – sign him KW!)
Freddie Thon, 1B
Miguel Negron, OF

Leones de Ponce:
Javier Vazquez, SP

names like javy are just there to help the fledgling league – there’s been a concerted effort to get the PR league back up and running. so a lot of guys are coming out to put their names on the roster but likely won’t play much (especially in the case of a starting pitcher). another interesting old name is bernie williams on carolina, who joins his rehabbing buddy jorge posada.

by larry on Nov 9, 2008 10:34 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mlb.com recap of sox system

it’s a review so don’t expect a lot of depth but winston is a good writer to read throughout the year.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081103&content_id=3661463&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Nov 9, 2008 10:36 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AFL thoughts from joe sheehan

with the caveats that he’s not a scout. i repeat, joe sheehan is not a scout. he repeats it like ten times in this.

Gordon Beckham has torn up the league, but he didn’t look good defensively when I saw him, and there seems to be an effort issue. That said, it is November

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8294

by larry on Nov 10, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poreda: reliever rather than starter in 2009?
By Mark Gonzales

Indications are that Aaron Poreda is closer to joining the White Sox in 2009 as a reliever rather than as a starter.

The Sox sent Poreda, their No. 1 pick in the 2007 draft, to the Arizona Fall League to get acclimated to the routine of a reliever as well as face top-quality hitters. …

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/11/poreda-closer-a.html


(I first put this into a fanshot but now I see this doesn’t its own fanshot)

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 10, 2008 1:24 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more
Encouraging evaluations by farm director Buddy Bell and minor-league pitching coordinator Kirk Champion were echoed by an American League scout who has followed Poreda’s development since his days at the University of San Francisco.

“The high velocity with the impeccable command has always been part of the package,” the scout said. "The breaking ball has improved. It will never be a weapon, but it is becoming a diversion, especially alongside the heater.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-11-whitesox-chicagonov11,0,2907010.story

by larry on Nov 11, 2008 9:05 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think it would be really good if there were pitchers in the AFL.

like, ones who can stop people from doing stuff such as scoring lots of runs, getting lots of hits, etc.

armstrong was 3-5 with a couple doubles; also 1-2 in preventing thievery.

danks also 3-5, with a double and a SB.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_10_pddwin_peswin_1

by larry on Nov 10, 2008 4:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danks already has 3 SB fwiw

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 10, 2008 6:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

minor league transactions
Chicago White Sox
Signed: SS Javier Castillo, OF Jordan Herr (Lancaster (Atlantic))

Herr, the son of longtime Cardinals second baseman Tom Herr, signed with Lancaster in 2008 after completing his senior year at Pittsburgh and going undrafted. The Cubs took him in the 41st round of the 2007 draft but he opted not to sign. Jordan Herr, whose older brother Aaron is a minor league free agent, batted .202 with six doubles and four homers in 36 games for Lancaster.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1792

also, for amusement’s sake, borchard signed with atlanta.

by larry on Nov 11, 2008 9:57 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

callis on poreda
The White Sox seem to be very high on lefthander Aaron Poreda, and it seems likes he’s one of the top two prospects in their system. There’s no doubt he has an electric arm. My question is does he legitimately have the chance to develop secondary pitches to stay in the rotation, or is his future as a late-inning reliever? When do you expect him in the big leagues?

Nate Rittenbery
Chicago

Lefthanders who can throw in the high 90s don’t often last 25 picks in the draft, but that’s what happened with Poreda in 2007, precisely because of concern about his secondary pitches. The White Sox have helped him improve his slider to the point where it shows flashes of becoming a plus pitch, but his changeup is still very much a work in progress.

Poreda is one of the organization’s best prospects, coming in at No. 2 behind Gordon Beckham on our soon-to-be-unveiled White Sox Top 10 Prospects list. I’d handle him the same way Chicago has, giving him every opportunity to become a starter. At the same time, he has one plus pitch right now and even that fastball can get straight and hittable at times.

In some ways, Poreda reminds me of Cubs righthander Jeff Samardzija, who has an electric arm yet couldn’t always overmatch hitters with it. A starter in the minors, Samardzija was a weapon for the Cubs out of the bullpen this summer. He may get a chance to make the big league rotation, but I think Samardzija is better suited for relief. That’s my gut feel on Poreda, too. There’s a good chance you’ll see him pitching for the White Sox this year, most likely in the second half and out of the bullpen.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2008/267159.html

by larry on Nov 11, 2008 11:39 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nate and i were best friends back in the day.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 11, 2008 12:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought i'd heard the slider being average-plus and that it was the change that needed the most work?

callis’ observations a bit dated, or just pessimistic?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 11, 2008 12:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poreda watch
By Mark Gonzales. 10:47 p.m.

White Sox left-handed pitching prospect Aaron Poreda was charged with three runs in 2/3rds of an inning in an Arizona Fall League game Tuesday night.

Poreda, pitching for the Peoria Saguaros, surrendered a home run to Michael McKenry and later walked three. He was pulled, and New York Mets prospect Eddie Kunz walked the next two batters to force in two runs that were charged to Poreda that allowed Phoenix to tie the game at 5-5 in the bottom of the seventh inning.

Poreda, pushing for a spot on the Opening Day roster, was pitching in front of several Sox officials.

The same talent evaluators got a chance to look at some high-ranking prospects that could match up well in a trade, such as Mets prospects Kunz and Bobby Parnell, who has a sinking fastball and allowed one run while striking out three in four innings for Phoenix, and McKenry, one of Colorado’s top prospects.

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/11/poreda-watch.html

by larry on Nov 12, 2008 10:48 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peoria Saguaros second baseman Gordon Beckham (White Sox) went 3-for-4 with a double. Beckham is now hitting .396/.484/.642 over 53 at-bats this fall.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1796#more-1796

by larry on Nov 12, 2008 12:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

of course any sample size below 100 PAs is largely meaningless.

and the AFL has been even more of a joke on the pitching side. however, one would think that this performance makes it more likely that beckham starts at birmingham. obviously sox people who have been watching him will have a better handle on how he’s doing beyond the numbers.

by larry on Nov 12, 2008 12:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where can you get the league averages?

b-r?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 12, 2008 2:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no.

this one you’d have to do yourself. just go the mlb site and add up the team stats. of course, you could read the fanpost on this topic to have a ballpark figure as of last week…

by larry on Nov 12, 2008 2:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jayson Nix tearing shit up.

Just noticed he is hitting .282/.353/.524/.878 with 6 HR, 23 RBI, 7 2B, 3 SB, 2 HBP (fits right in) in just 103 AB. He has struck out a lot with 32 already, but he has suprisingly good power numbers so far for a 2B. I realized Armstrong also has 6 HR in 30 less ABs, but 2B power is nice he it’s for real.

Just thought I’d point it out as I haven’t seen much talk of anyone doing well outside of GoBe/Lanks/CoStro/APo

PS:
Lanks = Lil + Danks/Lanky at 6’5"
CoStro = Cole + armSTRONG
The other 2 are obvious.

by JoeCoolMan24 on Nov 12, 2008 10:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's league average where he's playing?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 13, 2008 12:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your mom in your mom'sville

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 12:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and is it a AAA equiv? or?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 13, 2008 12:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is your mom AAA equiv?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 12:35 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I say yes!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 12:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Butt seriously, I just spent 5 minutes searching via google and didn't come up with a real answer

I remember the white sox home page had a link to winter league action but I don’t see that link on my browser now. Perhaps your browser has such powers?

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 12:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ha ha. you guys are so fucking funny.

fuck you colin and joecoolman. commenting “i don’t know where to find such information” on the fanpost where that information is. yeah. i fucking get it. no one reads this fanpost.

by larry on Nov 13, 2008 6:31 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

if only that had been in jest

nope, i’m just appallingly ignorant.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 13, 2008 11:14 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At least I was fucking around

sheesh

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 2:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what's a fanpost?

"too many ob-gyns aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 13, 2008 12:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's like a beer, only doesn't last as long

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 13, 2008 2:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT! A PITCHERS' DUEL!

danks really sucks in the leadoff position. scractch that idea, i guess. beckham will hit doubles wherever you put him in the order. and rodriguez will strike you out. especially if it’s a low scoring game.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_12_perwin_peswin_1

by larry on Nov 13, 2008 6:29 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i should have updated

jeffrey marquez smacked around in front of KW and other white sox officials. 3 runs, 6 hits, 1 walk, 2 K over 4 innings

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 15, 2008 10:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lisa winston looks at the white sox prospects in the AFL
Poreda also was excited about getting the chance to play with prospects like Beckham and Danks and, he projects, it won’t be long before they are all together in the big leagues.

“I hadn’t seen Gordon until we got here, and he can really hit and play the field,” he said. “There are a lot of guys in this organization who have the skill to compete at the Major League level. We’re a great organization. And just give players a couple of years to develop and we’ll show the world what we’re made of.”

you go, aaron!

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081111&content_id=3675407&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

by larry on Nov 13, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think it works the other way

I guess K-Dub decided there wasn’t room enough for two frat boys in the dugout. It would be like two black guys at an otherwise all white people party. Swish was naturally the choice to go. Let’s think of names Beckham will call some of the guys on the team

Floydy
Ramzy
Buehrlz-same pronunciation as my nickname ;)
Fieldsy
Q-ski
Jenksy
Thorndog
Getzy
Nixy
Crispy?

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 13, 2008 7:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Becks = Dubya?

“Doin’ a great job at 3rd, Fieldsy!”

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 13, 2008 8:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had the same thought.

Although I bet Dubya would’ve been a pretty decent teammate.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 13, 2008 11:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ANYWAYS

I think that angered me the most.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 14, 2008 1:34 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Purist.

Mine was Uecker being misspelled. Know your history, boy!

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 14, 2008 6:26 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beckham 2-5, HR; armstrong 1-4 with 3 K and threw out a stealer; danks pinch ran and scored.

lucas harrell continues to disappoint, giving up 2 runs on 5 hits and a couple walks over three innings. torres also stunk in mop up work.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_13_peswin_perwin_1

just like when god decides that your entire family should be brutally raped and murdered by neo-nazis, kenny williams is just testing our faith as a sox fans.

by larry on Nov 14, 2008 9:48 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

isn't there a fanpost for this?

/ducks

"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 14, 2008 1:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how can you be disappointing

when no one should expect anything from you?

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 14, 2008 4:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was chosen to be the white sox' designated starter in the AFL.

others could have used said innings. the sox obviously wanted to see what they had. it’s always disappointing when players don’t live up to their potential or rebound from injury.

by larry on Nov 14, 2008 4:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you for commenting on this, Daniel-san.

larry was wondering if any of us read this shit.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 14, 2008 7:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can you read something that doesn't exist?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 14, 2008 7:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

/brain cramping up

"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 14, 2008 8:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

carlos torres video

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/11/14/661317/arizona-fall-league-video

just like when god decides that your entire family should be brutally raped and murdered by neo-nazis, kenny williams is just testing our faith as a sox fans.

by larry on Nov 14, 2008 12:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sags seize first place with ninth inning rally

armstrong 0-2, BB, SF; beckham 1-4; danks PR

rodriguez gave up a run on two hits but also struck out two.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_15_scowin_peswin_1

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 15, 2008 5:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i believe thursday is the deadline to protect for the rule 5 draft

a reminder of the (notable) players who would require protection. sox 40 man currently stands at 32.

brandon allen
derek rodriguez
jon link
david cook
carlos torres
john lujan
wes whisler
mike macdougal

the above is also the order in which i would protect. obviously, macdougal isn’t a consideration at all since he was just removed. torres, for me, has seen his stock drop due to his uninspiring performance in the AFL and is unlikely to draw any interest. allen is a no brainer. rodriguez has shown he could play in the majors next season with his performance throughout 2008 and would be a very logical pick if unprotected. in a vacuum, i might put cook before link but, on the white sox who have a plethora of outfielder options already, i think the pitcher wins out by a nose. both, in my opinion, should be protected though neither are much to get worked up about.

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 16, 2008 11:10 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't protect Cook if I felt I needed room to work with, which KW always does.

If a team picks him up, I doubt his success lasts long if at all. I wonder if most other teams have this many middling relief prospects.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 16, 2008 1:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some of these guys seem like they're better than Masset,

at least the ones in debate for protection. They have qualities that put them out of the Masset Circle IMO

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 16, 2008 3:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pure win

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Nov 17, 2008 12:45 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was pretty damn good

i wonder if i should get a blog when i’m in the AFL

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 1:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was...really entertaining

For the record, my favorite Matt Weiters interview answer was ""

by hitlesswonder on Nov 17, 2008 1:43 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another reason the sox won't be signing a FA 2B

per gammons:

Scouts in Arizona for the Arizona Fall League and the White Sox’s minor league people are convinced that Gordon Beckham, the eighth pick in the MLB draft this past June, will be Chicago’s everyday second baseman by June.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3705607&name=gammons_peter

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 17, 2008 9:27 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dang.

feel bad for getz, but there’s a decent chance he’ll be playing significantly better than our 3B options anyway. i wonder when we’re getting a CF.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 12:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he isn't that tall

oh…i see. hmm. well then.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 12:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

john sickels' thoughts on this
Second, this whole thing is about the perils of small sample size. Beckham wasn’t playing well in Arizona at first, but then right after I posted that report he goes ape-shit with the bat, and suddenly looks great again. He’s a human being….these things happen. People were overreacting to what he was doing early and getting down on him, and now they are overreacting to what he is doing late and saying he’ll be up by June.

Let’s see how he looks in spring training and in April and May.

by John Sickels on Nov 17, 2008 10:59 AM CST

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 17, 2008 12:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HE IS NOT AN ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you prick him, does he not bleed?

it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 1:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're a prick.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 17, 2008 4:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wu's finger...

"this is your life and it's ending one minute at a time."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 17, 2008 4:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

breaking my own rule: baseball america top ten
1. Gordon Beckham, ss
2. Aaron Poreda, lhp
3. Clayton Richard, lhp
4. Brandon Allen, 1b
5. Jordan Danks, of
6. Chris Getz, 2b
7. John Shelby, oF
8. John Ely, rhp
9. Cole Armstrong, c
10. Eduardo Escobar, ss

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2009/267205.html

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 17, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PHHHHHHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY

RRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEERRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ON
larry’s thread!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MMMMMAAAAAAAKKKKKEE IIIIIIITTTTTT SSSSSSSSSTTTOOPP!!!

it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 1:42 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see he's your fave age - 28.

No time to start your major league career until close to 30. (30 is the new 20.)

it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.

by winningugly on Nov 17, 2008 2:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sags keep pace with mesa with three games to go via another 9th inning rally.

torres struggled through one inning, giving up a hit and two walks but none plated.

danks 1-3 with a sacrifice.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=g_box&gid=2008_11_17_pddwin_peswin_1

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 17, 2008 4:29 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beckham
White Sox second baseman Gordon Beckham, their first-round pick this past June, struggled at the beginning of the AFL. Pitchers were busting him inside, and he was not handling those pitches well. He had just 14 pro games prior to the AFL, so it’s possible that making the transition to wood bats was still an issue, because handling balls on the inner half of the plate is a bit different than with aluminum bats. However, in a positive sign for his future development, he’s been able to make the adjustment fairly quickly, keeping his hands inside the ball much better over the past couple of weeks. The result is that he’s been stinging the ball all over the place. The aptitude to make quick adjustments is obviously a large part of being a good hitter, which Beckham has shown here. Depending on the rest of the White Sox’s offseason moves, he should be on the fast track to the second base job on the South Side.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3708560&name=grey_jason
 
is this guy, gray, any good?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 17, 2008 6:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He seems solid, never heard of him though

I still think Beckham, if ready, should slide into whichever position the Sox need him for. If Getz/Nix is better than Betemit/Fields, slide him into third. If they suck it up, put him at second. If Missile sucks it up at shortstop, put him there. Having a rookie play out of position to get his bat into the lineup is hardly unheard of, yet here people think it’s a sin to have him at third base. As long as he’s able. If he’s good at 3B, and the rest of the infield is solid, then it isn’t like he’s going to be traded anyway, so his positional value would only matter if he’s mediocre. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t forget how to play up the middle.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 8:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

people were having problems with him being put anywhere but short in the minor leagues

but i don’t think having him plug gaps for ’09 garners objections.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 17, 2008 9:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If he's learning how to play 3rd and 2nd as well as SS I have no problem with it

but the infield situation in its current state requires an on-the-fly adjustable player, and Beckham would be the best option for that. I don’t want to say he should be the 2nd half utility-man extraordinaire, but I think that option should be left open.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 17, 2008 9:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You left out the following paragraph about Daniel Cortes

Somewhere SSH is choke slamming his Kenny voodoo doll. In all seriousness though, he may be one that comes back to bite KW.

by El Duque's Raft on Nov 17, 2008 8:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If only there were somebody around to say

"He’s got a large frame and a live arm. He struggled early this season as the youngest player on a bad Kannapolis club, but has rebounded to be one of the top pitchers in the Sally League the last 2+ months. He’s years away from sniffing the major leagues, but he might have the second best arm in the Sox system.

“Given the volatility of bullpen arms, MacDougal’s inability to stay on the field, and the relatively cheap price Williams has paid for bullpen help in the past, this deal looks like a huge overpay by the Sox.”

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 17, 2008 10:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was SSH before his stroke, wasn't it?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 17, 2008 10:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

found that on Soxtalk i bet

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 18, 2008 1:08 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're right.

macdougal has taken care of that all by himself.

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 18, 2008 10:58 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jim's minor league scoops from BasAmer's chat

        * Silverio is now in the low 20s.
        * Brent Morel is a plus defender who Buddy Bell likes a lot.
        * Clevelan Santeliz or Lucas Harrell could be this year’s Richard. He notes Harrell’s flashes of excellence in the fall league, which, if you look at his game log, are hard to see.
        * Jon Link may be in the front of the line for back-of-the-bullpen fodder.
        * BRIAN OMOGROSSO’S GOT BLISTERS ON HIS FINGERS!
        * Dexter Carter and Daniel Hudson might start in Winston-Salem.
        * Jorge Castillo tried his hand at catching in the instructional league.
        * Nevin Griffith had Tommy John surgery and is out for all of ’09.

http://soxmachine.com/blogs/soxmachine/archive/2008/11/17/14436.aspx

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

look good first, get batted around second.
“He looked good,” Baxter said of Marquez (2-2), the former Yankees right-hander dealt to Chicago for Nick Swisher last week. “I think he’s a good player — he’s only been with us a couple days so I haven’t gotten a chance to talk to him — but he looked good.”

cole armstrong had a day for himself: 3-6 with a homer. danks was a defensive replacement.

today the sags face mesa in what will likely determine who plays in the AFL championship saturday.

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe he forgot his goggles

why kenny, why…

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2008 2:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't need any performance enhancers!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2008 3:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ain't that the beauty of the blow up dolls?

they never know the difference and won’t run around telling all of their friends or making fun of you at family functions

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk

"how was her crumbcake?"

by Toonderstrook on Nov 18, 2008 3:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nailed it!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 18, 2008 3:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you nailed a blow up doll?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 18, 2008 10:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

train wrecked

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 19, 2008 11:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

she was moving!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 19, 2008 6:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just call him Jeff Magic

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 18, 2008 2:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear SSS has a fanpost where you can see Sox minor leaguers'

AFL stats and other assorted off-the-beaten-path information.

Would you be so kind as to direct me to that particular site?

it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.

by winningugly on Nov 19, 2008 12:21 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gladly.

all the info you need.

"you never open your mouth until you know what the shot is."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 19, 2008 1:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he passes with flying colors!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 19, 2008 3:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no such thing exists

it is a legend, like jim’s blog

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 19, 2008 6:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awww, it's ON!!!

the league has ruled that the winner of today’s mesa-sags game will go on to the AFL championship game on saturday. the so-called “robinson rule” has been suspended for the game, which will thus be played to its conclusion.

in other news, gordon beckham’s AFL campaign is over, as he has been removed from the sags roster. poreda was moved to the taxi squad, which means he is very likely to pitch today since it is a designated taxi squad day.

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 19, 2008 1:17 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey! look!

eddie kunz decided to personally blow the sags’ chance at the championship game. what a surprise! based upon his performance this year in the AFL that was the last thing i expected to happen when he was brought in the game.

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2008_11_19_msswin_peswin_1&sid=l119

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 19, 2008 4:00 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so they're all fucking chokers. except rodriguez. once again, that guy had to clean up kunz' mess.

danks: 3 ABs, 3 Ks, though he did have a meaningless, unclutch walk. armstrong, 0-4, GIDP, K.

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 19, 2008 4:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kunz after the game
“I feel bad for Derek [Rodriguez]. This must be the fourth or fifth time he’s had to come in and clean up my mess,” said Mets prospect Kunz. “I came into [the Arizona Fall League] hoping to use it as a springboard to the Mets next season but I’ve had a tough time of it. This was the worst. Giving up a grand slam to eliminate my team from championship contention really is tough. Too bad I don’t have any children or else I’d have to drown myself in front of them.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081119&content_id=3685136&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

free chris getz!

by larry on Nov 20, 2008 9:09 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least he's got a sense of humour.

"only after disaster can we be resurrected."

by Toonderstrook on Nov 20, 2008 9:32 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That you again, Material Girl?

Good humour is my favourite positive quality in a person.

it’d be like defending your choice of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich to someone who eats dog shit.

by winningugly on Nov 20, 2008 9:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Material!

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 20, 2008 11:20 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Frank Neville, Fantasy Source Expert
Gordon Beckham, SS, Chicago White Sox. The third ‘08 draftee on this list, Beckham showed in the Fall League that he will soon compete for a big league job, too. Beckham uses excellent bat speed and good mechanics to generate decent power, despite a slight build. He’s not A-Rod, but he’ll hit 20 home runs and bat close to .300 in the majors.

http://fantasy.sportingnews.com/baseball/experts/frank-neville/20081119.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Nov 19, 2008 6:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 19, 2008 6:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gordan Beckham

i feel like you should know who he is

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 19, 2008 6:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

best prospects of the AFL
Gordon Beckham, White Sox: Another 2008 first-rounder (No. 8 overall), Beckham wasted no time fitting in. He looked like he belonged at this level, hitting close to .400 with a 1.119 OPS. He won’t wow you with plus range, but he showed he’s capable of playing short, while also showing the ability and willingness to play second. His best tool is his bat, and he’s got plenty of it, with a