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White Sox' Stove is Still Cold

Not a lot of action on the site the last few days. These unsubstantiated rumors might liven things up. From the Rocky Mountain News, the Sox are interested in two Rockies.

Kansas City, the New York Yankees, Chicago White Sox and Atlanta have indicated interest in [Willy] Taveras.

Ugh.

The White Sox and Minnesota also have inquired about [Garrett] Atkins.

From the Boston Globe (via Seattle P-I)

[Eric] Byrnes, at two years, $22 million and recovering from hamstring injuries, brings a lot of energy and might be a good fit for a team like the White Sox.

That's what this team was lacking; energy. Talent is secondary, we need more high-energy guys. Quentin for Byrnes? I'm in!

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not a lot of action?

GARY WARD IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU’RE FUCKED PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

I saw your fanpost

Front paged it, then started to read it…

New coaches? A bunch of old major leaguers? who cares?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 3, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

sweeeeeeeeeettttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it’s a shake up!!!!!!!!!!!! bobby thigpen is the best ever!!!!!!!!!!!!

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i would take Punto at 2nd base.

At least he can get a fucking bunt down.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

that's roughly the 34th skill i look for in a player.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

above or below their ability to bang cowley's wife?

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Nov 3, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

i require all of my players to be fully functioning in that department.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

it is definitly not a move i would be jumping up and down over.

He could be a serviceable #2 hitter that we desperately need.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2008 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I saw a guy

coming out of the GNC on State Street today that looked like Punto. He had a giant container of Whey Protein – I bet Punto is Pumpto for Free Agency – or maybe joining da Bears as their next QB? At least until SoxFest, January 30th. I hope he informed da beloved that he can’t QB in the super bowl due to a conflict of interest. Maybe Orton will be back by then?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 3, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Liven things up?

Byrnes? Atkins? Taveras? Is this 2007 again? I feel like we’re reading “Six Feet Under”. Reminds me of a Green Day song (come on, you all know it) about, um, self-gratification.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 1:40 PM CST reply actions  

mumbles something about a minor league fanpost with an in-depth recap of performances from key players.

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

WU, I believe KDubs has bigger plans

than those scrubs. Sometimes I wonder where Chicago sports writers get their weed from…

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2008 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I haven't figured out who a Not Swisher center fielder could possibly be

There are a number of decent plays for JD’s spot in right just because a defensive upgrade can do a lot for the overall numbers. Everything about JD says “trade his ass”…I assume this is obvious enough to at least some of the better front offices.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 3, 2008 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

I would like to get an above average OBP and defense into right field

so that could entail “speed”. I hope it entails “quality baseball players”.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 3, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

fukudome!?!?!?!

(ducks)

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 3, 2008 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish there was some way to trade Thome...

Paulie could DH Swish could play first and we could take a stab at a trading for a quality center fielder. I have a HUGE problem trading our team’s MVP over the last few years.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

and get what in return?

JD is more valuable on our team then what we would probably get for him… You trade Thome for a roster spot.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade Jim Thome for a roster spot?

Unless your filling that spot with Mark Texeria I’d like to see how this makes our team better.

by Grinder in Training on Nov 3, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

because konerko has outproduced thome in each of the last three years. duh.

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Trade Konerko then.

we don’t need 3 dh/1bs on the same team.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

minor obstacles

surely the shrewd KW can maneuver around those

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

government bailout.

if there’s no market, just create it. i hear the baghdad banshees could use a right fielder.

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

has anyone ever been traded with a full NTC?

Just wondering…

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 4, 2008 3:30 AM CST up reply actions  

sure. but has anyone ever been traded with no market?

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 4, 2008 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Jermaine Dye has limited no-trade protection.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2008 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

also, your entire hypothetical plan...

is reactionary. you can’t just react to a poor season from swish/kong and deal him, or refuse to trade dye because he produced well in 2008.

by Craig Grebeck on Nov 3, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

he also can't ever stay to finish an argument

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

you are moving Konerko to DH and Swish to 1b

which leaves us an opening in center field. Makes us better if done right.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

IF we are replaying Thome with Grady Sizemore then yes.. that makes us better.

by Grinder in Training on Nov 3, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

if thome, konerko, and swisher

are all still on the team next year we are fucked. Swisher is not the ideal center fielder Kenny dreamed of, and we would still have a logjam at 1b/dh.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm

I believe Konerko and Thome have no trade clauses and we could trade swisher, whom is coming off a disaster year – thus sell low?

Trade Dye, move Q! to RF and Swish to LF…get a CFer or put Anderson there. (Or Punto, if available.)

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 3, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Dye is too fucking good to move though.

I would rather stick with what we have now than trade Dye.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

You are quick WU!

My thought exactly.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

we can get major league ready talent for Dye

which improves us now. hell, depending on the team we can prolly get a B-level prospect with him

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I would trade Swish.

That would be a huge gamble though.

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

we'd get 50 cents on the dollar for swish right now

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He looks great in his A's uni in the "I Don't Dance"

Disney video that I watch with my kid on the Disney channel. Seems like a great guy. So maybe he’d get .55/$ for his marketing appeal.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

please tell me you have a link for this

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not. I've seen it 3x. I am forever blind now.

Lots of MLB guys – Smoltz, J-Roll, Biggio, etc. but Swish is the smilin’-est of ’em all.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

i am both proud and ashamed of myself

for making it through the entire video

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

this was so much easier though

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

hmmm. i would have to think about it a bit more,

but i’d probably say right now that swisher would outproduce dye next year. not to mention the difference is contracts.

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

if they both got to play RF?

completely agree. it’s almost a full win between them defensively to begin with.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 3, 2008 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow how many times are you going to repeat the same stupid idea?

Trading JD would be the smartest move.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Nov 3, 2008 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

why is it a stupid idea?

you are a retard for wanting to trade our best player. Fuck! do you think what we would get in return would be as good as JD? Give me a fucking break… we are trying to put a contender on the field remember?

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2008 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

i would trade either of them.

I figured Thome would be more valuable than Paulie…

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 5, 2008 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

by the way, not sure if this is planned, but i've been waiting for someone to do a hindsight analysis of the garland-cabrera trade.

i’d do it myself by i don’t have any upside interest in this site and you people get enough content from me already.

"[Our new product] is a revolutionary advancement in golf tee time technology," said Harry Ipema, Co-Founder and President of Fore! Reservations. "Two months ago our programmers told me that it would take twelve months to develop it. But it took one sixth of that time - we've had a programmer who has really been focused recently."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

So eff us.

;)

Here’s my back-of-the-napkin:

Garland – couldn’t crack the top 4 (5?) starters for LAAAAAA Angels’ playoff roster. LA won the division going away, and he might be considered a superfluous piece.
Cabrera – a necessary piece during the season, and we never would’ve made the playoffs without him. Never.

Thus, we win.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

he wants statistical analysis

wu. PROVE IT!

Way to go danks

bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 3, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

How the mighty have fallen.

What a sad, sad day for SSS. ;)

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 3, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

He said hindsight analysis.

I see no mention of statistics.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Bring back the greenies and we can forget this "energy" crap.

Keep ‘em illegal for the under 30 guys, but let Dye, Thome, and Konerko pop them all they want.
Though with Manny Trillo as our Bunting/Running coach maybe they won’t need them.

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Nov 3, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions  

Manny Trillo as our Bunting/Running Coach

Is just what the doctor ordered. I’m so pumped, I’ll probably have to pop 12 Ambien’s just to sleep tonight.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Nov 3, 2008 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm all for.....

Byrnes..He was awesome a year ago…Alittle pop in his bat and he has stolen 50 bags…I say why not buy low on eric…Trade Dye for another pitcher.

Swish in left.Byrnes in center.Q!in right.

John Danks=Man Crush.

by Swish30 on Nov 3, 2008 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

lets just go with because byrnes is terrible

and leave it at that

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

those crazy lurking journalists.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if any trades are set up involving Konerko. It doesn’t matter if Williams arranges a 9-for-1 deal with the Angels, as a pure example. The first baseman has earned, and I stress the word “earned,” the right to veto any trade as a 10-year-veteran and having spent at least five years with the same team. I don’t expect Konerko to go anywhere.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081103&content_id=3661127&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

Oh really?

Then I say move his locker to the basement until he gets the idea that life would be better in a different uniform…

by hitlesswonder on Nov 3, 2008 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

And take the red stapler off his desk, while you're at it!

this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry

by rhythm on Nov 3, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

this team is better as it is then forcing someone else to step up and fail for us.

They aren’t going to win without trusting the guys they have because they can’t get any better by selling low and/or spending a **** load of moneys. And for those saying trade Dye while the value is high. Eat me. He was the second best hitter on the team last year and he can technically play in the outfield. I thought they should have traded him after 06 but I was wrong; you ride this man for all he has because he’s a very good hitter and he’s healthy now. He shouldn’t be traded just because he’s the default, if anything bring someone else in to take away ABs from the rest of the team.

What the hell are they supposed to get for Dye anyway, prospects? We ain’t even talking about major leaguers. Talking about prospects. Not even major leaguers. We talkin’ bout prospects. Talkin’ bout- this ain’t even major league hitters we talkin’ about! He’s supposed to be the face of the franchise and we talkin’ about prospects, man. I mean how silly is that? We not even talkin’ bout a pitcher, a major league pitcher, we talkin’ bout prospects. Because if there’s a pitcher out there worth trading for, odds are he isn’t going to be traded for Dye, and there isn’t any sense in trading him for a shitty one.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 3, 2008 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

you are ice cold, danny b. ice cold.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

hear me out

name a pitcher out there whose value is equal to the white sox as dye that would be traded here for him. and no one’s trading for pk or thome, and swisher would bring back carlos silva or some garbage.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 3, 2008 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm just commenting on the words, dan. ice cold. the diction. the flavor. it's like a leek smothered in my ball sweat.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Better trade rumors please....

Taveras, Atkins, and Byrnes. Crikey, that’s bad stuff. Of the 3, Atkins is the most dangerous in that I think it would take actual talent to acquire him and those road splits make question his loyalty to America. I would assume Taveras and Byrnes would be free-ish and there’s a reason for that (Taveras = .308 OBP)

by hitlesswonder on Nov 3, 2008 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

the fact that brooks was a woman really puts her career in the proper perspective.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

one would normally have thought employing scott boras would be a sign of masculinity.

"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."

by larry on Nov 3, 2008 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

what, that he needs the extra couple million to be secure?

if you say so, but if you’re going to hurt me make it quick.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 3, 2008 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You POS.

Jim Fregosi called me “Brooks” after watching my 3B play last January.

I refuse to believe he thought I approximated a woman in appearance.

Whoosh!

by winningugly on Nov 3, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

it's always about you, you raving egomaniac.

and seriously, why you wanna make up bullshit like that? if he said you look like brooks robinson at 3b, he must have meant brooks now, cause he sure as hell didn’t mean during his career.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 3, 2008 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

owned

The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.

by U-God on Nov 3, 2008 11:34 PM CST up reply actions  

"Shields", not "Robinson".

"God created [Republicans] because He was disappointed in the monkey." -- Mark Twain.

by Chiburb on Nov 4, 2008 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

How about internet hackery?

http://mvn.com/outsider/2008/11/being-the-gm-2009-chicago-whit.html

Let’s trade Richard for Khalil Greene because Contreras is due “back from injury” and sign Eric Hinske, listed as 1B/3B/RF, because we need more defensively challenged, immobile corner IF/OF types.

Seriously enlightening stuff there.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Nov 3, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm...
With Hinske’s power and on-base capability, he would, in my opinion, thrive in US Cellular Field.

what on base capability…. last time i checked a .335 obp was not good for a corner infielder/outfielder

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it is.

Trust me.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 3, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

eric?

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Nov 3, 2008 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

also
The Sox are on the hunt for either a second-baseman or shortstop (especially after Pablo Ozuna signs with the Arizona Diamondbacks in this series)

ok lets check out the d-backs plan he has…

Arizona Diamondbacks sign 2B Juan Uribe.

i guess its understandable to confuse the two…

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

wow this stuff is great
The Yankees announce the move of Derek Jeter to center field.
This would cause shockwaves, but it simply has to be done.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Sad..we've got Byrnes, Taveras, and Ozuna rumors

I’d like to see the Sox rumors move on to a higher level of players I don’t want them to trade for like Coco Crisp and Randy Winn

by hitlesswonder on Nov 3, 2008 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

Byrnes and Taveras

I can see Willy Taveras in a White Sox uniform. I think though, the Sox will have to give up a lot of prospects for on eof the stolen base leaders this year. Byrnes, he sucked big time this year when he was “healthy”. He had one good season, not any more like the 2006 campaign.

by dasox313 on Nov 3, 2008 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

Are you suggesting Taveras and his .308 OBP would cost a lot of prospects?

I suppose, for all I know, he would. But either way that’s just ridiculous.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 3, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Even better is his .296 slg.

"I'll take one in the mouth over the eyes anyday." - AJ

by omnipotent grab on Nov 3, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Rox Girl on Purple Row has the Rockies

settling on Wassermann for Taveras. So you can send them a lot of prospects, but she only wants Logan or Wassermann.

by El Duque's Raft on Nov 3, 2008 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

if only JO could play league average defense in center...

he might begin to have some friggin value.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Nov 4, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Mets Interested In Javier Vazquez
According to Dave van Dyck of the Chicago Tribune, the Mets are interested in White Sox pitcher Javier Vazquez. Van Dyck implies that the Sox could move top prospect Aaron Poreda into the rotation to replace him.

Vazquez has a connection to Omar Minaya, who traded him to the Yankees in December of 2003 as the Expos’ GM. Vazquez is owed $23MM for 2009-10. He’d give the Mets a pretty deep rotation. Van Dyck doesn’t believe it’d take much if the Mets paid all of his salary. Aaron Heilman could be a start.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

there we go

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Jose Reyes for Javy

make it happen KW, we’ll all depending on you.

by El Duque's Raft on Nov 3, 2008 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i was thinking dan wright

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Van Dick serious, Heilman could be a start?

And who else ya crusty bastard, does he think KW is going to burn a hole in his rotation to shore up the bullpen. Leave the ridiculous trade proposals to the lesbian Phil Rogers.

by El Duque's Raft on Nov 3, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

didnt work for me

but why would trading a reliever with a worse career era than our starter be a good idea. especially when the reliever had an era a whole run worse the previous year.

His stats are as good as Fields -- that's the sad thing

by Jbasic89 on Nov 3, 2008 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

As a salary dump?

Vazquez for Heilman makes sense only if the Sox just want to drop salary. Sportwriters must vaguely remember Heilman being good 3 years ago and think he still is. He was awful last season, and I don’t see him improving the Sox at all. Vazquez, for all his faults, has a good shot at a 4.50ish ERA and 200 innings and his contract is shorter than what a FA would sign for. Dumping him for Heilman doesn’t do anything for me.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 4, 2008 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

More Vazquez to the Mets rumors from the NY Post!
Vazquez is owed $23 million over the next two seasons and Chicago likely would have to take a contract – perhaps Castillo’s – in return. The Mets also might have to part with a prospect to make the deal work.

Anonymous Mets official says it probably a “pipedream”.

I like how the Sox have to take Castillo’s contract for the Mets to be able to afford $23M over the next 2 years.

I think the Sox are better served just to hold on the Vazquez than trade him for crap. Just my opinion.

by hitlesswonder on Nov 4, 2008 9:01 AM CST reply actions  

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