Dye-ing For Fresh News
by The Cheat on Nov 30, 2008 9:56 PM CST
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PrintLast week we pointed to a report stating the Sox were shopping Jermaine Dye to the Reds, looking for a young pitcher (and more) in return, and were looking to trim some payroll. Baseball essentially shut down over the Thanksgiving holiday, and there won't be any real news until teams make their arbitration offers official sometime Monday, so here's some stale news.
Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe says that Dye is a fit for a number of teams, but they seem put off by the price.
The White Sox right fielder fits so well with a few teams, including Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, and the Mets. The Rays are trying to deal the back of their starting rotation - Andy Sonnanstine or Edwin Jackson - for a power-hitting righthanded bat, but the White Sox would want more.
John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer gets Reds GM Walt Jockety to issue a non-denial about the Dye talks.
As for talk that the Reds could be interested in outfielder Jermaine Dye, whom the Chicago White Sox are reported to be shopping, Jocketty said:
"I'm not going to comment. But we have talked to the White Sox about some players. Nothing is close."
The way tampering rules work, Jocketty cannot say he's pursuing Dye. But in the case of San Diego shortstop Khalil Greene, Jocketty was comfortable shooting down the rumor.
And finally, Mark Gonzales acknowledges the reports adding a couple more names to the fray.
The teams appear to be a match because the Reds are looking for a right-handed hitter to go with young left-handed hitters Joey Votto and Jay Bruce, and the Reds have a wealth of talented pitchers, including Homer Bailey, Josh Roenicke and Matt Maloney.
Of course, here I am writing about it without much to add. I will add that if the Sox are going to trade Dye for the proposed packages, I see it as the first of a series of moves. They can't go into another season with one-and-a-half outfielders. And now Jerry Owens can go about dominating the third consecutive thread here. Paradoxically, it will be the first time he's ever dominated anything three consecutive times.
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Merkin on Dye
Dye stands out as a steady, and oftentimes spectacular, performer from year-to-year since coming to the White Sox in 2005. He also has earned the respect of everyone from general manager Ken Williams to manager Ozzie Guillen and right on down the line for his approach to the game, with the ability to adapt to something like a change to his spot in the batting order without complaint.
That sort of player doesn’t often get shopped, but then again, Williams will listen to offers for pretty much any and all of his charges. If the deal makes sense, bringing back a quality starting pitcher and some sort of low-risk, high-reward outfielder — like Carlos Quentin was last December, as an example — Williams could take this chance to go a little younger for the future while staying competitive in the present.
I didn’t knew JD was so good…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
especially if they're fast and have noodle arms
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Dec 1, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Well done.
"I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 1, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
Another gem from Merkin's mailbag
In your opinion, why should the White Sox keep Jose Contreras on the team?
— Carl, Chicago
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
Thats amusing.
Not all Sox fans can be born with brains e.g. WTGTD, KenWo.
"I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Nov 30, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
I forgot more about the Sox than you know.
and i guarantee that.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 30, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Congratulations
“What did Dave Gallagher hit in ’88?”
“I forget.”
That’s impressive.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 1, 2008 12:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
.303
Wasn’t a fan of Gallagher. Lance Johnson was outstanding. I was happy when he replaced him.
Kenwo4life=ratings
One can look up a lot of statistics in 17 minutes...
I’m not saying, I’m just saying.
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
ah yes
I remember the day the Sox signed him, Dec, 7, 1987. And when he finished 4th in the AL in sacrifices. And his career OPS of 1.339 as a DH.
Just things that I totally remember. Because I’m a better Sox fan than most people who don’t remember stuff.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
Dec 7, 1987: A day that will live in infamy
I remember it like it was yesterday. Being a sharp witted seven year old, on my way to Iddings Elementary and Mrs. Strege’s first grade class, I remember the news came over the wire and was immediately reported on the sports news radio station being played on the school bus. I thought to myself, “Well hot diggity-dog! Now the Pale Hose are unstoppable!”
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on Dec 1, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it certainly was such a day.
i recall that day the crash of psa flight 1771 after a disgruntled former employee shot the pilots, his former supervisor, and other passengers.
luckily the news of gallagher’s signing made me forget that silliness and focus on what really matters: baseball.
by larry on Dec 1, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't remember shit, except it truly was my first day of employment in Orlando.
Boy, I envy you guys. I was 30 and can’t remember anything about the White Sox offseason.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
Read between the lines, Hazy,
though I was sincere re: my 12/7/87.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
You buyin'?
Are you offering to take him out and get him laid for the first time, too, MM?
PS Today’s market action was easy pickin’s, son. Hope you backed up the cart with your shorts on Friday.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
nah, wish i would have. visited family for the weekend. came into the office at 1 today.
still made good cash, but that was textbook. should have killed it. oh well.
you ever read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell? i just picked it up today.
Cashing checks and having sex.
the portion on marriage counseling
is pretty interesting
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
and yeah, were i to meet up with any sss'ers i'd be happy to buy a drink.
that said, what kind of weirdo meets up with a fellow sss’er?
Cashing checks and having sex.
not a bad plan. he's apparently been giving away free t-shirts because he thinks everyone on this site is a grandson or granddaughter.
i’ve been actively trying to sell him real estate in his home state, but it appears several ex-wives have already severely depleted his bank accounts under the guise of love and devotion.
Cashing checks and having sex.
don't buy that story.
he’s still ripe for the picking. keep trying. try telling him how smart he is and how his carlos quentin t-shirt is really cool.
JERRY OWENS
my original plan was to try to have him help fund a website,
which i would call “sox machine.” this “sox machine” would need an influx of capital in order to keep updated “news” and “opinions”. i’d also sell him apparel and other useless crap. he claims that he already gives to this website. it’s unbelievable. it’s like people are preying on this guy from every angle. i guess everyone smells a ripe mark.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Grab how old are you?
Do you get a boner when you get to mention my name?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 1, 2008 12:46 AM CST up reply actions
If Dye is traded...
I wonder if Juan Rivera is a possible target (he is a free agent, right?). He would seemingly be a decent, cheap buy, assuming after the leg injury that he can still play a non-terrible LF (moving Q to right).
At the very least it’s looking like there’s a pretty good market for Dye, which is always nice…
I was thinking about that last week too.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
i love the last sentence in this one cheat...boosh
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
both make it better
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
anyone read the THT annual yet?
some good stuff in there.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
link it colin
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
it's a book, yo.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
yo, link to the purchase page
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
sounds good
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
don't interrupt colin, he is preparing his getz interview post
sheesh….
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
I read on mlbtraderumors
that the Brewers will be shopping Cameron for pitching if they don’t resign C.C. Do we have anyone for them? Richard?
I wanted Cameron last year. Would have been nice if we had him instead of Swisher in CF and still kept our prospects.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
He's pretty much exactly average in wins per 600 AB
+3 def + 2.5 pos adj – 3 off = 2.5 runs above average ~ 1/4 win abavg
using marcel + bill james/2 for wOBA found on fangraphs, tango’s pos adj’s and chone’s d-proj.
at 2.5 M per half win above replacement, that’s ~ 5 half wins * 2.5 = 12.5 M per year. he’s due 10 on the team option. so he’s a nice asset, in any case. on top of that, i think he’s a decent bet to beat that, since he’s a good athlete. 36 year olds projecting for above average CF? pretty impressive. i’d bet he’s an A type, too, but don’t feel like looking it up. in any case, you could replace prospects pretty rapidly provided you didn’t give up too much. really, though, the Sox should be looking for a stop gap, not a rental.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
DRays Bay on Dye
http://www.draysbay.com/2008/11/30/675908/this-rumor-stinks
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
Hey guys!
Let’s pull numbers out of our asses to make our opinions seem relevant!
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 1, 2008 7:40 AM CST up reply actions
the numbers aren't from their asses
see my win accounting stuff.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
your numbers are different.
the degree and efficacy of ass pulling is debatable. however, it is still present.
slightly. they pegged him at a ~.360 wOBA, which is slightly above his career average, for his age 35 season.
it’s a reasonable assumption is all i’m trying to say. use 5/4/3 weighting for adjusted wOBA and you get ~ .370, a half win better on 600 PA. makes sense to make a conservative estimate there anyway, since there are age concerns and all that. if that’s still ass pulling to you, okay then.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
10 runs = win, non?
be more specific plz
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
er
monetarily? then yeah, i’m not sure that those would be especially accurate necessarily. they’re definitely bitching way too much, in any case, but that’s SOP.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i think daniel's point
if i’m reading him correctly, is that one can easily game such numbers to get the result one wants to argue. most especially when the valuation is, no matter which reasonable assumptions one uses, a close one. the stridency of the argument doesn’t match that which underpins it. that would certainly be my point.
and its import was totally ignored
we killed logic, they killed mirth.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
It takes a magical ass to produce numbers supporting that one or two years of Dye is anywhere near as valuable as the next four years of Sonnanstine.
Jackson, maybe.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
considering the substance of the post didn't address sonnanstine
i would imagine the point was more directed towards edwin, no?
It takes a special kind of numbers cruncher to completely fail to address whether the move would make the Rays a better team
I would think that, if one were going to put energy into calculations based around replacement level, one would actually bother to address the actual replacements, marginal wins over true replacement, if you will.
Jackson arguably has a negative Marginal Wins Over his True Replacement, David Price. So, jettisoning him for anything of value is a net win for the Rays.
Add in Dye’s MWOTR be it Nick Evans (as speculated in the post) or more accurately Ruggiano, and the Rays come out way on the positive side of the Win ledger.
With some acknowledgment that marginal wins are more valuable to a playoff team, one which was a few wins away from a world series, one which figures to be in baseball’s toughest division again next season, and I don’t see how “This Rumor Stinks” any more than the analysis/rationale provided.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Dec 1, 2008 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
rec'd
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
pwned.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
One might also want to consider money...
…since paying $10+MM to Dye could just as well go to a number of free agent mashers without paying trade costs.
And one might also want to consider more than just the 2009 (and possibly 2010 with Dye) season.
And one might want to consider that just because trading Jackson for just about anything would make the Rays a better team doesn’t mean that trading Jackson for Dye is a smart move. There’s a significant chance they could get something more valuable.
But, you know, dramatic rhetoric is the most important thing.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
Thanks.
It’s actually something I’ve worked on after finally realizing that it takes a lot more than rationale to convince people of something.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
perhaps you'll eventually realize that convincing people is also made easier by not insulting them first.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Is this bizarro world?
Are you referring to my “magical ass comment”? If so, that was intended as wit, not an insult. Ask larry about my humor abilities.
That being said, I think I’m usually more on-point more and less insulting than what I’ve experienced here at SSS.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
i find your acerbic wit to be captivating. in fact, your sig has had me in stitches for months.
keep up the good work, sky kalkman. the whole world is watching.
Cashing checks and having sex.
that was a knee-slapper
or was it? I just don’t give a fuck anymore. Either way, it’s a team fan-site. This is the cream that rose to the top you’re looking at, Sky. Unless Jim starts a site, you aren’t going to find better White Sox commentary and a slap on the ass anywhere else on the internets. Learn it. Love it. Fight it, but don’t bite it; we sharpen our teeth.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 1, 2008 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
If you wanna roll with our tough guy blog
Come back with some cojones, grapefruits, or any other colloqualism for balls.
"It never is, because I'm the Shogun. And before you get to the Shogun, you gotta go through a lot of ninjas."
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 1, 2008 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Dye for Jackson now?
and not Sonnanstine, as you mentioned in your opening gambit.
number one when it mattered!
I mean if you were really clever, then maybe
you would take a look at the scene in Hamlet , you know “The Murder of Gonzago” scene.
number one when it mattered!
You assume that there is a free agent out there that gives the Rays more net value than a -Edwin Jackson, +Jermaine Dye
which is a steep assumption indeed. The perturbing part isn’t that R.J. suggested that the Rays are better off solving the problem within, which is perfectly tolerable; when he suggests that Jackson will automatically gain value, especially considering his peripherals, and when he suggests that Dye will automatically regress, it seems as though he’s simply manipulating imaginary numbers to his advantage. We don’t know whether this will happen, but here’s what we do know; there isn’t a player on the free agent, in the Rays price range, market that outclasses Dye in all facets. For one, they seem to love the idea of Giambi coming over, when he is older, less durable, equally offensively productive, and can’t play in the outfield at all. They think he won’t cost as much, but it wouldn’t be surprising if he did. If it’s a DH they want, fine, but it seems as though the Rays are searching for a right fielder at the moment.
There also seems to be the assumption that Dye will cost more financially than the free agents. There isn’t enough fact to support that right now. Most of the free agents in question would be taking a significant pay cut to go under Dye’s salary.
If they don’t like the idea of acquiring a player for whatever reason, that’s fine; however, it looks bad when you make such an assertion as “This rumor stinks” with a sloppy argument.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 1, 2008 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
Also, David Price could quite possibly be an upgrade over Scott Kazmir.
Does that mean trading Kazmir for peanuts would be a good move?
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
your diction answers your question for you.
“could quite possibly” sounds like a pretty slim marginal benefit to me.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
aahh Mr. Wankman, can you tell me something
how many boxes of tissues did you go through when Longoria won the ROY award?
regards
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 1, 2008 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Good find!
This guy’s comment reads like the side effects on a prescription drug.
“Dye …….. is aging quickly, is a defensive liability, and is quickly regressing on all fronts. Further he is owed 11.5 million next year with a 12 million dollar option in 2010.”
Owens is "fast" but would be a huge high risk/high reward. by WTGTD, 11/26/08
yes, the "aging quickly" is fucking hilarious.
this is aging quickly. and what he wrote is ridiculous hyperbole.
from Steve O.
Half project, half donkey, Travis “Pronk” Hafner should rebound in 2008 and lead the Indians back to the post-season and to the World Series.
lolz
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
Phew. I thought you were linking to Paulie's stats.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
God dammit
I was wondering when one of my favorite tv shows…Las Vegas on NBC was coming back and I found out it was canceled. Oh am i pissed! I haven’t been this pissed since Swisher took one of his infamous called 3rd strikes. No more Vanessa Marcil!?! That is just poor GM’ing by NBC. 
Kenwo4life=ratings
Vanessa (just in case you read SSS)
I will give you the best 13 seconds of your life behbeh… hit me up :-D
Kenwo4life=ratings
i bet you were pissed about them cancelling cavemen too
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
or was that abc?
whatever
Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.
I never watched that.
but Las Vegas was an awesome show. There were cliffhangers left…. don’t get me started. Terrible.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Some Win Accounting for 2009
I was mostly doing this to see if I could do it. I took the average of Marcel and Bill James from fangraphs. These are probably the least desirable of all the projection systems out there, but fangraphs provides wOBA which is super easy to convert to runs and wins. Defense is from Chone’s projections and position adjustments are per Tango. I used the -10 for AJ’s defense as a reasonable estimate if he’s really declined, as it’s apparently about what Mike Piazza was on average per the new THT annual.
The oddest one by far is BA, but if he can get above .320 with his wOBA, he becomes pretty much average because of his defense (I plugged in a +5 runs rather than Chone there, which is -2).
I didn’t feel like figuring out the platoon and seeing what happened if we totally punted is valuable. Getz didn’t have anything more than a Marcel, and it was pretty much all regressed afaik, but I still think it looks about right. Alexei becomes far more valuable by moving across the diamond.
I’m not sure about how to do the pitchers as of yet. I’m getting too tired to remember what to do with leverage. For the pitchers 3 year weighted, I did 5/4/3 weighting and if they weren’t in the majors, I substituted 6.00 tRA for that year. that obviously hurts Danks and Richard the most. the average starters is just kind of whatever…it’s varied enough that i don’t know what it’ll look like in ’09. might be better to use tRA+.
And of course, I suck at math, so who knows. I like practice. It looks like we’re an above average starter and position player away in ‘09. that’s kind of a lot.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on Dec 1, 2008 2:13 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
the brewers did sign bourgeois to a minor league deal last week
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
but colin this is some solid shit....good work
wrrrrrrrrrecked dude
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
yeah it really makes it look like BA is a pretty decent play in center
Fields/Betemit is going to be a disaster at 3rd though. maybe Gordon will be ready in April. yeah! that’s the ticket!
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i think i might go back and run some accounting for past seasons.
looking at 2006.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
It looks like we’re an above average starter and position player away in ‘09. that’s kind of a lot.
that depends upon how much you buy that danks projection.
well i figured that evened out the Vazquez projection
everything else looked reasonable to me. but the pitcher stuff is way asspully.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
and 80 wins* isn't too bad for a team that's doing worse than punting on 3B
*assumes average bullpen
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
you're probably aware, also, that substituting 6.00 tRA where I did was a smidge much, at least according to BtBs
they’re using 5.75 for replacement level. .25 runs/ game is a tenth a win per 4 games pitched, though, so that’s not going to add up to much difference.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
should've done all this shit in one comment...oh well
you bring up a good option with blalock…at least i think so…a lefty bat, has shown some pop in the past…and has hit for a decent average when healthy…all in all he can be a decent stopgap until viciedo arrives….and i would be perfectly ok with a fields/blalock platoon over at 3rd as well…maybe the competition will get fields going…we’ll have to wait and see….
i would salivate at the addition of ben sheets to the rotation….but you are right on the years…maybe kw will make an exception here…
furcal was tearing it up at the beginning of the season…and i would’ve liked to see how he would’ve went through the whole year if it had not been for his injury…i think he’s a longshot though
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
what post are you commenting on furbs?
also: blalock go his option picked up already, iirc.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i forgot i had the free agent targets on there. those were more notes to myself than anything.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
i mean, i wrote that pre-Contreras' injury
it’s been a while, man.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
ohhhhh shit
das a long time ago
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
i was commenting on the googledoc dude
ahh now i see that blalock did get his option picked up….fucksticks
taller uribe and fields it is
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there's just a real dearth of 3B targets out there
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
I'm not opposed to dealing Dye....
but I am if Homer Bailey is involved…..he’s a head case and just isn’t very good…..forget about him.
Also, I gotta believe KW is waiting to see what Tex does….if he doesn’t reup with the Angels then Dye/Konerko are probably going to be of interest to Stoneman and then maybe KW can get his Chone…..
Can the Sox get Sonnanstine and Balfour?
I’d love to do that. Balfour can become the closer.
Trade Jenks and load up.
Get a good outfielder back for Javy.
Balfour is a one-pitch pitcher.
He’s a good set-up guy, not a closer. He also seems to be a pretty emotional guy, not necessarily the cool gunslinger type. (Channeled, the emotion is fine. He seems to be somewhat unchanneled.)
Jenks will not bring back those 2 without giving something else up.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
I think he was saying for Dye.
One year of Dye with an option is not going to bring back a #3 starter and a top setup guy.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
not those #3 starter and top setup guy
because of contract status. but that’s not an unfair return for two years of dye depending upon what the contract situation of two players looks like.
and i wouldn’t call balfour a top setup guy. i’m sure the rays and the rest of major league baseball don’t consider him such, either.
I didn't realize balfour was 31.
He’s got that Australian Blood in em’ though. Great for a scrum!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Along with
Joe Cowley, Carol Slezak, OC and Swish.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
"Ozzie"and "Aussie" would be too confusing in the same clubhouse.
For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.
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HOLY FUCKBALLS!!!! WE’VE BEEN IN RECESSION FOR A YEAR!!!!!!!! PUNTO!!!!!! YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!!!! WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Friggin Way
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
BtB spits out some Cy Young Stuff:
The really notable thing: 3 Sox pitchers in the top 20 in the AL (Buehrle, Vazquez and Danks). Vazquez obviously wasn’t the 4th best, but he was still better than most realize I suspect. In any case, just underlines that pitching carried the Sox in ’08.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
but the rays had three in the top 20 too and they were mentioned first
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
you can take the R out of DRB
but then all you have left is DB.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
Rutherford?
"I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 1, 2008 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
Can someone explain this?
“The way tampering rules work, Jocketty cannot say he’s pursuing Dye.”
He’s talking to the employer, not the employee or his agent. I’m confused.
Owens is "fast" but would be a huge high risk/high reward. by WTGTD, 11/26/08
just what he said.
he can’t say anything to the press about it without permission from the white sox.
which presumably they never give until it doesn't matter?
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
also: anyone watching the State - Minny replay from the college hockey showcase?
it’s on B10 network and it’s a friggin scorefest. 4 – 3 with 5 left in the 2nd. kinda makes me wish more CCHA teams had Oly ice.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
nah chilling in the usi library....rotting my ass away writing a fucking speech
where’s the jerry owens talk?
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
i'm waiting for WTGTD to arrive and condemn this thread
I am Mega Man, here's my mega plan, you die!
and we'll be waiting in the bushes....ready to attack
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
He is high
and doing snow angels in his driveway.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
WTGTD = SSS pope?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
He is JD's #1 Fan
Kind of like Kathy Bates in Misery.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
that movie is hilaaaaarious
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
arent you just waiting for him
to start taling about JO?
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
don't worry furbs, i'm worriedly procrastinating
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
it happens a lot with me here
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
fuck sticks
arbitrations rumors from MLBTR….http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/arbitration-pre.html
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
what's wrong
the “probably?”
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
no i FIALED with the link the first go around
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
I should try this tomorrow on the way to work
apparently it is the thing to do when we are in a “recession”.
Downtown bank branch robbed
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December 1, 2008
FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS
Police are searching for a man who robbed a Downtown bank Monday morning and fled on foot.
The Bank of America bank branch on the 500 block of North Michigan Avenue was robbed about 9:40 a.m., according to police News Affairs Officer Laura Kubiak.
According to unconfirmed police dispatch reports, the robber was a 5-foot-8 black man wearing a tan coat, tan fedora and black business clothes underneath. He was believed to have fled on foot to Lower Michigan Avenue following the robbery.
He allegedly slipped a note to a teller informing them he was armed and demanded money, according to unconfirmed reports.
The FBI and police remained at the scene at 10:20 a.m.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
damn that's pretty smooth. +1 for the fedora alone.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
He's a "smooth" criminal
break it down….
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
I am Mega Man, here's my mega plan, you die!
by U-God on Dec 1, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Could it have been MJ?
5 foot 8, check.
fedora, check.
black, BAAAAAAHHHHHH, wrong.
Nevermind.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 1, 2008 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Weakening the outfield again?
Trading Dye would just weaken the outfield even more. Stay with the outfield we have plus maybe one free agent. If we trade Dye though, we would have to get some top prospects to deal Dye.
The Trade-Maker
So here's the question...
It appears everyone with a select few are against JO in center, i myself would entertain it but would rather someone else
BA isn’t a proven starter IMO
And no way are we stargazing with Gen Soreness again
So who would be the ideal CF for the White Sox that’s available?
Just wanted to get your guys thoughts
Besides Tavarres
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
I meant to say *everyone with the exception of a select few my bad
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
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