Election Day Thread -- Enter At Your Own Risk
Come on. We've got a southsider and White sox fan running for president. We've got to have an election day thread. I know we're apolitical here on SSS but this is a once in history event (southsider and White sox fan running for president). Even rarer than the cubs winning the world series!
I'll give my election day story. I early voted 10 days ago. Working until about 4 today. I've got my ticket to the Grant Park celebration, goin' with the wife and another couple. Probably hit a pre-grant park event first then grant park.
Yes We Can!
And WU I can't believe you're voting for a ticket with palin on it. McCain I can at least understand, but Palin??!!
[Note by The Cheat, 11/04/08 12:45 PM CST]: I was going to start one of these. We need an outlet for the inevitable political discussion that is bound to come up over the day-into-night-into-week. So consider this a suspension of the already broken soft rule about no politics. But let's keeep it to this thread, and leave it in this thread. Mkay thnx
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Lines not so long here in Cent'l FL.
I voted 7:30 AM – took 20 minutes. Wife voted at 7:00 – 25 minutes. My 95 year-old (Caucasiod) lady volunteer couldn’t find my name (she forgot O comes after G), and an Affrican American woman with a white t-shirt with “ATTITUDE” on it went up and down the line imploring us to “take out your picture of ID – TAKE OUT YOUR PICTURE OF ID!!!”.
Also, we are being told that cops are close by the voting areas, just in case riots begin if the “wrong” candidate wins (or the “right” one loses – take yer pick).
Yes, the more things change…
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 11:26 AM CST
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Palin?
Really WU? Anyway, I’m glad you exercised your civic duty!
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 11:30 AM CST
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come on, bhoov.
it’s always a smart move to put a 73 year old in office during times of distress and have their successor in waiting be someone unqualified for the job. businesses do this all the time. i wouldn’t expect people who aren’t partial to a pro-business party to understand this.
"i wasn't sure who to vote for. but then his grandmother died. they're pulling out all the stops to get those undecided voters. damn, these guys are fucking good."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM CST
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Hey lar
where is your sig from? google wasn’t helpful.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 11:46 AM CST
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Unqualified is an understatement.
Anyone I can beat in a spelling bee should not be be a VP candidate. Give her a map of the middle east and see if she can fill in the countries. :)
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Nov 4, 2008 11:50 AM CST
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your wife voted before you? oh, you must have told her who to pick last night. i was gonna say, what the fuck, wu? how is she gonna know who to vote for?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 4, 2008 12:25 PM CST
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hope you sided against Palin yo
but i’ll still talk to ye anyway.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:15 PM CST
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"just in case riots break out"
that’s a nice interpretation, but it can also be seen as a method of voter intimidation. some volunteers had to tell cops around polling stations where i was in vegas that unless they had orders, to please move along.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Nov 6, 2008 9:30 PM CST
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Prediction
Obama 51% McCain 46%. Obama 311 EV.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 11:32 AM CST
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My absentee ballot has been sent
Got my tickets to the Grant Park rally, chances a huge riot breaks out because there could be close to a million people only intrigue me more. Nothing could be dumber than trusting people to act civilized after one of the most important elections in recent memory.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 4, 2008 11:36 AM CST
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Please keep an eye on the evil-doers
and run if you see any suitcases sittin around.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Nov 4, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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i've got mixed emotions about the rally. i'll prolly watch a little out my window, but i could do without all these worthless fucks rolling around my neighborhood.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 4, 2008 12:26 PM CST
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go see dirty dancing.
http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/the_theater_loop/2008/11/44-tickets-down.html
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 12:31 PM CST
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What election?
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 4, 2008 11:55 AM CST
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For emperor of the world
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 4, 2008 12:22 PM CST
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I added a note to the post...
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on
Nov 4, 2008 12:49 PM CST
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there's this thing called "self fulfilling prophecy"
you camel-fucking cock sucker.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 12:51 PM CST
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You only waited until we had 2 posts referencing it.
I believe colin is rubbing off on you, boss.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 1:31 PM CST
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the world needs more me
so i heartily endorse this development.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:59 PM CST
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I voted Obama...
although my t-shirt says he’s on the ticket with Gilbert Arenas, not Joe Biden. I was dissappointed to see Biden as the VP candidate.
But anyways… My reasoning is rather long-winded (I’ll try to keep it short), but here it is: I’m not a ‘fanboy’, but I view BO as the lesser of two evils. Both seem to be somewhat different forms of big government, and I’m not a fan of that from either side. I like Obama’s “intelectual-ness”, too — I kind of like having a guy at the top who’s rather sharp (not to say McCain isn’t, just that Obama seems to be a few steps ahead in this category).
Then there’s my more ‘peripheral’ reasons for casting a vote for BO. I want to see the Republican party transformed a bit. They may tout conservativism but that’s a load of crap. My ideal Republican candidate would be small government minded socially liberal, economically conservative with a foreign policy of “leave other countries the fuck alone”. McCain — at least in my (somewhat) limited reading — doesn’t seem like any of the above. Furthermore, Palin is so much suck combined into one party — what a joke of a VP candidate (not that Biden is much better).
There’s also some aesthetic reasoning behind my voting. Obama’s campaign has drawn me into politics in a way that no other candidate was able to do (part of this is also coincidental, as I’m probably at an age where a good number of folks start to get more interested in politics, regardless of candidates).
by CWSKeith on
Nov 4, 2008 1:13 PM CST
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this pretty much encapsulates my thoughts
as far as i can tell, the Republican Party in particular clearly does not want people like me in it. the Republican Party is still, a decade and a half after the fact, everything Sideshow Bob ran for.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:22 PM CST
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you mean they don't want a lazy whiner?
imagine that.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 1:24 PM CST
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they don't want someone who values silly things like 'fact' and 'reason'
by Trooper on
Nov 4, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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I for one think we need more "fisters" in the GOP.
Come on in, colin. If GWB can become President there’s hope for you.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 1:30 PM CST
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"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 1:35 PM CST
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YES WE CAN!
CHANGE THE WORLD!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Nov 4, 2008 5:05 PM CST
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WAAAAAH SEXISM
am i there yet?
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:56 PM CST
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let me know when you've interviewed getz.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 2:00 PM CST
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Is this the new "Go get your shine box!"?
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 2:03 PM CST
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that is so wrong
in so many ways.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on
Nov 4, 2008 5:06 PM CST
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i tried to find his uniqname and it didn't work.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 2:30 PM CST
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ooh just found it
we’ll see if he actually uses the email.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 2:32 PM CST
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weak.
stalk him.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 2:33 PM CST
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how long can it really be until i'm rummaging through trash?
keep in mind that i graduate in january.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 2:41 PM CST
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the university, for one.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 3:03 PM CST
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You have to do better than that.
How many perfessers? Cash, or, well, prison behavior?
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 3:08 PM CST
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Let's just say
they’ll be calling the last 4 years The Fisting of the Elite in the gnostic texts
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 3:19 PM CST
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rec'd actually
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:22 PM CST
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So are
you a Republican generally? Did you vote for bush? Just curious.
I’m a died in the wool dem, but I am completely fascinated by the present (well really the future) state of the Republican party. Looking to 2012: Romney, Palin, Huckabee, Jindal. Man talk about entertainment: Jindal performing exorcisms while Palin prays against witches. Imagine a Huckabee/Palin ticket or a Palin/Romney. Will repubs really become the party of 10% of the population (white evangelical christians) or will they be able to return to their more libertarian roots? Fascinating.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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Wasn't old enough to vote during that election...
and as I said, four years ago politics and global affairs weren’t really on my radar.
I haven’t really gone back and looked closely at who I would’ve voted for. Given my mindset as of right now, I may (I can’t stress “may” enough) have voted for Bush in 2000, as he seemed to be touting smaller government and less foreign intervention (I could be wrong — I thought that’s what I would’ve remembered reading). 2004? I don’t know about that one either… definitely not Bush after going to war needlessly. But Kerry? Wasn’t he a whole bunch of suck too? I might be talking out of my ass here — and I don’t have much to compare to, seeing that I’ve only been on this earth for 20 years — but those two strike me as two terribly uninspiring and rather “blah” candidates.
I’m going to choose to not answer the “am I a Republican?” question, as to me that question is rather meaningless. Incorporating the other thread into this one, it’s like me saying that I’m a fan of indie music — what does that really mean? I’m Republican in the sense that I’d prefer less government intervention into my personal affairs and in the economy, but really how many Republicans stick to that? I think the whole FISA issue says it all, where you had both sides touting that damn thing that stepped all over our constiutional rights. It’s also what made me sour on Obama quite a bit. I could see his POV — he’s got an election to win and holding the fort on FISA would’ve meant all sorts of bullshit attacks from Hillary and the Republicans on how he’s a pussy and how the terrorists are now gonna get us, but I digress…
I guess if I were to tag myself with one of those labels, it’d be libertarian, but even with that I don’t know everything that that label encapsulates. I hope my studies (I’m an econ major with a real yearning to understand the Austrian School of Economics, i.e. von Mises) will help me come to a better understanding about these things so I can firmly place myself somewhere on the spectrum.
by CWSKeith on
Nov 4, 2008 1:49 PM CST
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Libertarian FTW! Rec'd.
Not many of us left, Ron Paul excepted.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 1:52 PM CST
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Oh what's the use hiding it... the real reason I'm libertarian is because I just want the marijuana laws repealed so I can smoke chronic all day
by CWSKeith on
Nov 4, 2008 1:55 PM CST
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again you have encapsulated my feelings.
damnit keith, when did you start stealing all my lines?
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:56 PM CST
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Great minds...? Nope, certainly not that -- I can't hold up my end of that bargain.
by CWSKeith on
Nov 4, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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i'm pretty fucking amazing at everything ever.
but if we put that for a vote, no way i get that status either.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 2:30 PM CST
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clinton said
after he got out of office that he was going to legalize pot but never got around to doing it.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on
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have some south side pride
chicago school FTW
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on
Nov 6, 2008 9:37 PM CST
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Spot on analysis
Your feelings (at least I feel) will sum up what a lot of people are going to do today. People who see nothing better out there, see what the Republican Party has become, and see Obama’s positive campaigning (who cares if it’s naive it works) and vote for him.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 4, 2008 1:36 PM CST
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just admit it... if he wasn't a sox fan you would have voted for
McCain…
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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i thought 9-11=-2
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Nov 4, 2008 7:09 PM CST
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i kinda want to write in Nate Silver.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 1:23 PM CST
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No lines here in Missouri
I got in and out in five minutes. Tracy Jordan was wrong—I could not have played three games of pool in the time it took me to vote.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?
by UribeAuction on
Nov 4, 2008 1:33 PM CST
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How's Lincoln Co. going?
Are they still leaning McCain? They have been the best predictor of the result of the vote for years.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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Here is what I think of my soon-to-be new taxes:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.
So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.”Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men – the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 ( 25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 ( 22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. “I only got a dollar out of the $20,”declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!" “Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!” “That’s true!!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!” “Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 2:14 PM CST
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"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 2:19 PM CST
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the graphic is my favorite part of that whole bit.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 2:28 PM CST
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I believe that graphic brought forth my greatest Simpson laugh ever
after the scene where Krusty the Clown is calling his secretary on the intercom system…
Krusty: “Book that animal that always chomps on my groin!”
Secretary: “Susan Anton?”
Krusty: “No! The lemur!”
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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My question to you would be...
what makes McCain better “economically” than Obama, other than the fact that McCain is Republican? I thought I read that McCain wants to buy up something like $300 million in bad mortgages and re-finance them. So, basically, more propping up of bad assets — there’s something so fundamentally wrong there and, in my mind, was as terrible an idea as anything either candidate threw out there.
by CWSKeith on
Nov 4, 2008 2:21 PM CST
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where's the money gonna come from if not from tax?
to pay off that massive budget deficit
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 4, 2008 2:47 PM CST
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mind your own fucking business.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 4, 2008 9:27 PM CST
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So wu you make
greater than 250 K!!!?? I was thinking based on all of your whining financial whining at about 150K.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 2:56 PM CST
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Only the IRS knows for sure.
But my taxes are going up. A lot. What’s the diff to you? What’cha bench?
And what does “whining financial whining” mean, anyway?
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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yeah
excuse the extra whining. Your taxes will be going back to the Clinton tax rates, right? Anyway, you never answered my palin inquiry.
Wow, Who knew Uncle WU was rich?
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 3:06 PM CST
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That's what's funny.
“Rich”. In spirit. We’re fortunate and blessed. But not “rich”, which is what is the pisser.
I prefer to leave Palin out of this. As someone posted earlier, Biden’s no prize, either, though he sure has represented Delaware well for eons. (But then the Chosen One isn’t so experienced either, is he?) I’m willing to bet (with my vote) Johnny Mac lives into his 80’s.
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by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 3:11 PM CST
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i'm sure he'll live a long life now that he doesn't have to deal with the pressures of the presidency.
when i look at how much presidents visibly age in four years, let alone eight, i’d be very reticent to vote for someone much over sixty. i understand why people would vote for mccain despite his age. it was just a tactical error to go with someone as your VP who is totally unprepared to replace him. not sure if it actually had a big effect on people in terms of who they would vote for, but it certainly did not help.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 3:16 PM CST
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well she convinced me to vote Obama
so there’s that.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 3:20 PM CST
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pretty much the same here
i like mccain, but the fact that we could be a heart attack or bullet away from palin as president scares the shit out of me
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
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Nov 4, 2008 7:13 PM CST
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Reagan was just shy of 70 when he took office
Just sayin.
McCain has heredity on his side. His mom is still kickin’.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 3:31 PM CST
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and his dad?
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 3:32 PM CST
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He's hiding from his Mom.
Wait. You’ll see. It’s inevitable.
Whoosh!
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Not so good...61
It turns out the Admiral had a heart attack right after WWII and croaked. If I was in that many sea battles, I’d probably croak fairly young as well.
I think Obama’s heart will skip a few beats as well when he discovers there’s no way in hell he can possibly create the 5 million (yes, 5 million) new jobs he has promised.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
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Check that
That was grandpa McCain.
John McCain’s dad (also a big shot Admiral) made it to 70…but was a boozer and died of heart failure.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 3:53 PM CST
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i hear years tortured in prison camp, chronic pain, and skin cancer are indicators of long life.
i don’t mean to imply the guy is going to keel over, or is even likely to (i’m sure someone could whip up the stats on that – i stick with baseball), but i’d certainly have pause if i were considering voting for such a candidate because the risk of it seems to me to be relatively significant. at least significant enough that who you choose as your mandated successor should you die/become incapcitated while you’re in office should be a pretty weighty decision. and palin isn’t exactly weighty.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 4:00 PM CST
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Definitely a consideration
But the GOP probably should have given that more thought before making him “their guy.”
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
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i dunno.
who thought he’d choose someone like palin? seems to me this could have become a non-issue if he’d just chosen someone with a degree of competence.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 4:25 PM CST
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I think she's been given a bit of the Dan Quayle treatment
but, yes, there were definitely better choices.
I guess he was going for some sort of “wow” factor. He definitely got it, but it ended up working against him.
Still, ya gotta love a hot librarian-looking gal whose not afraid of a charging moose.
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 4:42 PM CST
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shouldn't be that hard.
demographics coupled with job losses by jan 20 should do the trick.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
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OK
Joe the Plumber
Tito the Builder
WU the Financial Adviser?
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
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Nov 4, 2008 3:22 PM CST
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i wish the McCain campaign had pimped WU
i would have considered voting for him despite Palin.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
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Nov 4, 2008 3:23 PM CST
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from what I've read about Obama
he’s been preparing to become President since he was pretty damn young. that kind of ambition is kind of scary, but it also suggests, considering how smart he is, that he’s probably prepared himself. that’s not the same as governing CA or NY, but very little is.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
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He's my CFO.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
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I'm just glad it will all be over after tonight
Talk about excess (campaign spending) and B.S. (promises that will never be kept…from either side). Although I do find it interesting that Palin gets knocked for inexperience when Obama does not. Well, at least he’s a Sox fan.
In the mean time…before tonight’s victory rally…here’s something to chew on regarding “taxing the rich” (i.e. “sticking it to the man”):
To my valued employees,
There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this. The economy doesn’t pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.
Of course, as your employer, I am forbidden to tell you whom to vote for – it is against the law to discriminate based on political affiliation, race, creed, religion, etc. Please vote for who you think will serve your interests the best.
However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.
First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there, is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You’ve seen my big home at last years Christmas party. I’m sure all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life.
I started this company 12 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.
My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Buick Skylark with a defective transmission. I didn’t have time to date. Oftentimes, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.
Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom’s or the latest hot fashion tem, I was trolling through the Goodwill store extracting any clothing item that didn’t look like it was birthed in the 70’s. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that eventually, someday, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.
So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9 am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5 pm, I don’t. There is no “off” button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, sleep, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child.
You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden — the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations… you never realize the full story and the sacrifices I’ve made.
Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn’t. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.
Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I’ve paid is steep and not without wounds.
Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:
I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don’t pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes.Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes.Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes.
You know what my “stimulus” check was? Zero! Nada! Zilch!
The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is
the economic stimulus of this country.
The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you’d quit and you’d wouldn’t work here. I mean, why should you? That’s nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree, which is why your job is in jeopardy.
Here is what many of you don’t understand … to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly the government mandated to me that I didn’t need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.
When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don’t defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you Or, do you defibrillate
his heart? Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it.Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the mud of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine.? Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.
So where am I going with all this?
If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay your mortgage, your SUV, and your child’s future. Frankly, it isn’t my problem any more.
Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I’m done. I’m done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.
While tax cuts to 95% of America sounds great on paper, don’t forget the back story: If there is no job, there is no income to tax. A tax cut on zero dollars is zero
So, when you make decision to vote, ask yourself, who understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn’t. Whose policies will endanger your job?
Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of saving your job. While the media wants to tell you “It’s the economy stupid” I’m telling you it isn’t.
If you lose your job, it won’t be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me in the South Caribbean sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about.
Signed,
Your boss
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 3:16 PM CST
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Well
See Ya! because it’s all over but the countin’.
I’m sorry, going back to the Clinton tax scheme of 8 years ago is not going to suddenly kill small business.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 3:28 PM CST
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You mean 16 years ago?
Markets started rolling over 3/2000. Big Bill got out just in time. The tax policies of the mid’’90’s (with a Dem in the White House and Republicans in Congress) were the reason things worked out so well, among other global factors.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 4, 2008 3:31 PM CST
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I wasn't opining that
the Clinton tax tables caused the economic boom of his time, only that the tax code of that time didn’t sig. harm business during those times.
I think we ought to call Thome and Konerko the "Cholesterol Brothers" because of the way they clog the bases.
by bhoov on
Nov 4, 2008 3:37 PM CST
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mostly those other global factors.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
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"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 3:32 PM CST
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Tailgater journal entry 11/4/08
“Today I chuckled at and agreed with something larry posted on SSS.”
"There will be surgery. It will heal. It will heal fast."- Carlos Quentin on NBC 5 News Chicago (9/5/08)
by tailgater on
Nov 4, 2008 3:47 PM CST
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please tell me you are not a
right wing fanatic….
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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of course not.
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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good
because if you were… I would wish you luck, finding a life preserver.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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well boss...
don’t cry to me when your business makes over 200k a year in profit.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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by Where Triples Go to Die on
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a business making over 200k a year? wow!! those fat cats!!
do you have any frame of reference whatsoever?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 4, 2008 9:32 PM CST
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as a matter of fact I do...
Boss told me how much he pays out in taxes…“On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes.”
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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by Where Triples Go to Die on
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the company makes 200k a year and writes out $1.2M in taxes annually?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:07 AM CST
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sweet business model. how can i come aboard?
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by MarketMaker on
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Nice planning.
Of course, they are based in Cuba.
Whoosh!
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Nov 5, 2008 11:25 AM CST
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you see the cnbc graphic last night showing that 60% of people making over $50k a year voted for barack?
how about some reference points? like numbers for over $100k? $250k? $1M? between $50k and $250k?
i can’t believe how naive people are. they really think the guy making six figures is rich? yeah, people, these are the fat cats pulling all the strings, your small business owners, your private practice lawyers, your pediatricians. let’s bring them down out of their “mansions”. silver spooners, all of them.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 12:23 PM CST
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here
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
seems to have different conclusion. but exit polls are notoriously unreliable.
by larry on
Nov 5, 2008 12:29 PM CST
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that is quite different. more believable, i'd say, as well.
remember when i said i hate poor people? yeah, that’s still true.
but i guess that’s change for ya. nobody wants change more than the people who haven’t made things good for themselves.
i just don’t want to hear about my tax money going towards anything other than education. increase the quality of education, and everything else will fall into line.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 12:34 PM CST
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I'd be on board with that
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 1:07 PM CST
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problems with education is more than just monetary
we have an educational system that is setup to help the upper-middle/upper class. the number 1 factor on success on your ACT/SAT? it is socio-economic class. educationally people are not on a level playing field.
much of the money that goes towards education comes from property taxes as well. where are the highest property taxes? the places with the nicest schools already. so the nice schools keep getting more money while the schools in the poorer areas are struggling to make it. the federal government does not (and i believe cannot) have it built into the budget to accomodate this difference.
and good luck convincing people on the north shore that their local governments should be sending their property tax money to the poor, underfunded schools in the city or the country schools in the rest of the state.
there are efforts trying to get new, better teachers into the inner-city schools. i thought about doing that myself, but after going and observing, i, like many of my classmates, believed that we were trying to reach the unreachable. improve the unimprovable. we need to revamp almost our entire educational system. if thats what you want the money being put into, your increase in taxes won’t cover it.
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
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Nov 5, 2008 1:41 PM CST
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One word - vouchers.
It’s a start. Seemed to be working well here until the Communistic FL Supreme Court said they are unconstitutional. Heck, I’d even take my tax voucher and give it to the poor (like I do already, except without the choice, since I don’t use our hor$e$heet public schools here). i’d just like the choice.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 2:33 PM CST
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you hear about the charter schools in DC?
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by MarketMaker on
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Yep. Against all efforts of the local Union
they are kicking ass. And that is despite the head of the Union (if I remember correctly) taking some kickbacks or some sort of graft and being booted. Gotta love DC.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 6:52 PM CST
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people trying to fix the problem and the unions are saying "fuck the kids, we gotta get paid."
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
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MM, I don't think that's the point
I make more than $50k and believe that raising my tax rate by 3-5% to pay down the massive debt the country has gotten into is worth more to me overall than what I could end up buying with that extra cash. If it means that some of the extra cash I kick in goes into better food practices, better national health policies, research into better ways of producing energy, cleaner air, etc, then so be it.
I prefer to take a long term approach to the issues, and I understand that with the industry you are in, there’s rarely a long-term perspective to be had.
I hate to sound mushy, but I’m doing this for people like WU’s child and her possible children because, let’s be honest, being a homeless crackhead isn’t really a hit with the ladies and my odds of ever reproducing are a long shot, at best.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 12:34 PM CST
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futures market?
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by MarketMaker on
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hehehe, I suppose
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
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you are smarter than this
the tax breaks help small business that make less than 200k a year in profit.. it is irrelevant how much more than 200k this business makes.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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So then I shouldn't vote for George W. Bush?
Excellent.
A very one sided and simplistic view of things and I recognize that it isn’t worth my time or energy to spend giving much of a counterpoint, but I’ll leave you with these two nuggets:
If people spend money at this hypothetical guy’s business, I think the business is going to be better off than if no one has the money to buy the good and services he is peddling.
And if this guy shuts down his business and it is still profitable, another entrepreneur will take his place, that is for certain, because that is the opportunity that is afforded to Americans with our quasi-free market economy.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
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Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
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trickle down, baby.
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I do find it interesting that Palin gets knocked for inexperience when Obama does not.
obama graduated harvard’s law school, he was editor and then president of the law review and taught constitutional law at the university of chicago
what did palin do? 5 schools in 6 years? did she even go to grad school?
second, in the senate obama was in the foreign relations committee
worked with lugar on nukes
what foreign policy expierence does palin have?
In the mean time…before tonight’s victory rally…here’s something to chew on regarding "taxing the rich" (i.e. "sticking it to the man"):
reply below
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Nov 5, 2008 7:45 PM CST
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i liked that explaination
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
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thank you, wu.
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by MarketMaker on
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(Sighs.)
We’ll just have to strap it on, MM.
Whoosh!
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Uh, Wu, that was a bunch of bullshit as well
Going back to a sane tax rate (ie taxes before GW cut them) is a lot different than being taxed to death.
I realize I’m wasting my time, but here’s some food for thought. From what I read (factcheck.org perhaps?) back in August, McCain would have raised taxes ~3% and Obama ~5%. Not much difference between them and I doubt much changed regarding the difference in policies from then until the election.
You two schmucks can still feed yourselves / your family and still put gas in your car. The people that are working at the companies whose stocks you trade (and make money off of) may not be able to, so you’re shooting yourself in the foot if you’re living large and they can’t get to work.
I could go on for hours, but I’ll leave it at that.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 11:50 AM CST
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I never thought of it that way
Do you have a pamphlet so that I can join your cult?
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
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Judgmental, ain'tcha rhythm?
First, I am a financial planner, so my living is made off the assets we manage that will eventually feed people in retirement (we hope), pay for college, or fund a purchase down the road for them. I am not a trader (though they serve a purpose – adding liquidity and pricing to the marketplace). People pay me to help them accomplish goals. So lose the “do something with your life, Bud, and stop making a living off the buying and selling of others” crap.
Second, how do you know how I live? “Living large”? WTF is that? Is that because my wife and I are gainfully employed, that both of us put ourselves through school and inherited nothing, that she and I have been in the same career for 20 years each and have built (painstakingly) a reputation that no one handed us.
God bless you, sir, but do NOT presume to judge me and my family based upon posts on this site (and off-site). I may not have to worry about my next meal (nor will I ever, because I would work 3 jobs if I had to to feed my family, and have done so when younger) but that is as a result of the fine Chicago suburban education I received, and the college degrees I decided to earn (fully paid for by yours truly). Others are free to do the same, or not.
High and mighty, perhaps? Sure. Just don’t attack my lifestyle when you have NO idea what I do, how I do it, and how I got here. And I could go on for far longer than you, having seen both sides of the coin personally and professionally. One day maybe you’ll educate me with the vast world knowledge you have gleaned and I will bow to your wit and authority. But somehow I am not hopeful, because if you have such knowledge you might not talk out of your ass as you just did.
Much respect.
Whoosh!
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Nov 5, 2008 12:46 PM CST
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that's a shutdown. nicely done, wu.
kudos on the education stuff, too. i’m in the same boat.
and as far as the trading thing goes, you can either realize their importance, call them a necessary evil if you must, or just admit that you have know idea what the hell goes on and then just do yourself a favor and shut the hell up.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 12:53 PM CST
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Someone is a little defensive here. Take a breath and relax.
My first comment about the bunch of bullshit was related to your post of an oversimplified tax scheme by that professor at Georgia. I can now see that not going through it point by point was my mistake and I can’t afford the time now to do so because of the job at which I’m gainfully employed. Congrats, you win.
Also, thhe point of the post was not to judge you or your family, but to make the point that the economy isn’t going to come to a grinding halt now that Obama is in office and you aren’t going to be paying half of your paycheck in income taxes. The “living large” word choice was poor and a playful jib at MM. I apologize for offending your sensibilities.
Bringing up the stock trading was in no way to say “do something, Bud, and stop making a living off the buying and selling of others”, but to point out that if people can’t work for the companies that are traded because they can’t get to work, then the whole thing falls apart. It was intended to be a counter-point to the greater atmosphere of the thread. All in the vein of intelligent discourse that has obviously crashed and burned. I suppose at this age, I should know better.
You are older than me and have seen much more, but I suggest you chill out with the “talk out of your ass” stuff because it is obvious you misinterpreted my point. Also, there are plenty of us who have put themselves through school, including yours truly.
Have a wonderful day and I hope you read the fanshot about stretching. Who knows, it may actually help your running.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 1:44 PM CST
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Now why might someone get defensive at this:
You two schmucks can still feed yourselves / your family and still put gas in your car. The people that are working at the companies whose stocks you trade (and make money off of) may not be able to, so you’re shooting yourself in the foot if you’re living large and they can’t get to work.
Nobody started the slinging but you, kiddo. Expect an incendiary response if you casually refer to someones livelihood as a barnacle. The GA prof e-mail was intended light-heartedly. You personalized it. I didn’t.
Again, much respect. No hard feelings, POS.
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 2:38 PM CST
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i, for one, liked how you came to MM's defense.
while you’re a schmuck, MM should not be so blithely included in your company. glad you corrected the mixup.
by larry on
Nov 5, 2008 2:47 PM CST
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He is a putz.
I’m the schmuck. You’re a POS.
Now that we all know each other…
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 3:05 PM CST
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CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 3:26 PM CST
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i think, if anything, i'm a prick.
asshole might work, too, but i think prick is the best fit.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 5:15 PM CST
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i'm gonna take that as a compliment. thank you.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 5:14 PM CST
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I thought you two would think the schmucks thing was funny. My bad.
Also, I’m disappointed you didn’t catch my typing error. OPOS.
I don’t get the barnacle thing, cause that’s not how I see it (I have investments too), but I yield to your knowledge base. No offense taken on this end, but I did think the GA prof thing was a serious post. I didn’t take it personally, because I don’t see it as a critique on my taxes, but I digress.
But what really concerns me is, as larry points out, lumping you and MM together really is inappropriate.
MM, I’m sorry. ;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 3:25 PM CST
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no offense taken. your last name ends in a vowel and we all get thrown in the same boat.
i’m used to the ethnic discrimination. we’re a threat to your way of life. you corporate fat cats want nothing more than to suppress those of us whose families weren’t in this country before the 20th century.
this country needs a change!
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 5:19 PM CST
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i get to be lumped into this group too
hooray!
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
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Nov 5, 2008 5:54 PM CST
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hey, i feel bad for the lifers, people who have worked at ford for 30 years, etc.
but if you were on a sinking ship, would you try and save yourself? or would you just bemoan your situation? doesn’t anybody think the responsibility lies solely upon oneself to improve one’s quality of life? you really want to give the money to a poorly run business and trust them to take care of you? that’s your solution?
i got some shocking news for everyone expecting real change…it ain’t coming. if your life sucks and you think the government is gonna help you, good luck. idealism is a funny thing. it’s impractical. welcome to realism.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 12:47 PM CST
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NOOO OBAMA WILL HAND OUT BALES OF CASH TO ME
I was happy he won, but you’d think the country just won a fucking war by the way people were acting on campus. Obama has a big heaping pile of shit to deal with, everyone seems to forget with the whole economic crisis that there are still thousands of troops overseas and a rapidly expanding defense budget.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 5, 2008 12:59 PM CST
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hmm, can't say i see anything in your post where someone could exert real change...
i suppose it’s all a matter of perception regarding what change is and where it is expected. i remember another election not too long ago where everyone was saying it didn’t matter who was elected because it would be the same either way. i think i’ll sit back and let this one play out some.
by larry on
Nov 5, 2008 1:08 PM CST
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which is apparently what I should have done
stupid trying to provide a counterpoint.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 2:03 PM CST
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if people weren't concerned about some sort of real change occurring.
i rather doubt we’d be sifting through 166 comments on this thread, a two year presidential campaign, and hand-wringing from both sides regarding the horror that awaits us if the other guy gets elected.
by larry on
Nov 5, 2008 2:19 PM CST
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Your last paragraph is more to my point
Any change will be small, be it in what we pay in taxes or in the services we receive. The real change was in getting people off their asses and engaged in political actions. I see that as a good first step.
I agree that, in general, there needs to be more personal responsibility taken in this country from the top down. In a perfect situation, that is not only people trying to improve their own lives, but taking responsibility for their speculative mishaps, politicians being held fiscally and ethically accountable, and corporations being held fiscally and environmentally accountable as well. I also recognize none of that is going to happen.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 2:01 PM CST
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I'm not sure if this is the right post to respond to -- as I'm not necessarily sure who's backing who...
but I’d still like someone articulate why McCain’s economic ideas were any better than Obama’s.
by CWSKeith on
Nov 5, 2008 4:28 PM CST
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you might as well pay some tax
else your country will default on it’s obligations before long, where else is the money gonna come from to finance the great middle eastern campaign?
and as for the extra money, well you can’t take it with you
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 5, 2008 12:49 PM CST
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the election is tomorrow, dummies.
jeez.
I just got my flyer that says so. Go back to bed.
I'm like a laser, six-string razor. I've got a mouth like an alligator
by Nordhagen on
Nov 4, 2008 2:24 PM CST
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just got back from the polls in evansville....been there all day handing out campaign ads
with full color photos of Scarlett Johansen….tits and ass….how fucking glorious that was…i’m sure you all made the right choice too…if you didn’t…expect your home to be torched
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on
Nov 4, 2008 5:57 PM CST
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It only took me 5 minutes to vote today
I walked right up and wrote in myself….. I should have did that anyway. I actually voted for Obama. Two main reasons led me to this – 1. If the president croaks i have more faith in Joe Biden then i do Sarah Palin….. 2. Obama is a Sox fan and said so in an ESPN interview.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on
Nov 4, 2008 6:50 PM CST
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Also Obama won like 3 little league championships
which is good enough for most
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by The Cheat on
Nov 4, 2008 6:55 PM CST
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that's actually another republican smear.
Did Obama win 3 Little League Championships?
No. Obama won 7 Little League Championships. Which is more than Michael Jordan. Obama won in first, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth grades. His team was disqualified in the semifinals in second grade due to the father of Jimmy Starr repeatedly yelling at the umpire over balls and strikes, refusing to stop despite two warnings, and returning to the stands after being ejected from the park. Obama was an excellent pitcher and was described by Coach Joe Taylor as “a five tool player.” Obama, however, stopped playing baseball after his seventh title to focus on basketball in high school.
http://www.obamafactcheck.com/facts/10/obama_in_littleleague_326505.shtml
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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well he kicks the shit out of kenwo's accomplishments
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on
Nov 4, 2008 7:18 PM CST
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Bullshit
I would have struck him out just like Antwaan Randle El and Luke Butkus dammit
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on
Nov 4, 2008 9:25 PM CST
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"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 4, 2008 7:46 PM CST
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so in baseball terms could we call it a laugher?


The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
by U-God on
Nov 4, 2008 7:59 PM CST
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also, sorry for the giant image
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
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Nov 4, 2008 8:00 PM CST
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"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 4, 2008 10:15 PM CST
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So much for it being close
Oh wait, it was never going to be close. A White Sox fan in the White House, I thought I’d never see the day!
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
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I was in tears as soon as he got called and pouring during the speech. All of the points he hit on were things that my dad has always told me he thought a President had to be to guide America to be as great as it can be. I’ve never experienced a more beautiful moment. Somehow is just a little more perfect and possible and I don’t get it but I’m in awe of it. God bless us.
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by colintj on
Nov 4, 2008 11:40 PM CST
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"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 5, 2008 1:13 AM CST
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fag!
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:08 AM CST
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i'm sorry. that was inappropriate. you are a little bitch, though, colin.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:08 AM CST
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I thought the sentiment was funny, the word choice could have used some work though.
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 11:51 AM CST
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yeah, it was reactionary. that's what i would have said to my friends, but i wouldn't want to insult colin's delicate sensibilities.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 12:54 PM CST
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i laughed, actually
but we’ve come to terms at this point, haven’t we? i’m a mincing pussy boy and your heart is going to explode after eventually being totally worn down by the utter masculinity that courses constantly through your veins.
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Nov 5, 2008 4:49 PM CST
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heavy is the head that wears the crown.
and isn’t it more fun to exaggerate? i’m sure you’re nowhere near the mincing pussy boy that you always act like and that everyone seems to think you are.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 5:25 PM CST
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Don't EVER retreat.
Oh, wait, I did in an earlier post. I was insincere, though.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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i'm a diva in real life too
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Nov 5, 2008 9:22 PM CST
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that's gotta be the gayest thing you've ever said. it did make me smile, though.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:04 PM CST
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i bet you say that to all the associate editors
nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team
by colintj on
Nov 7, 2008 12:42 AM CST
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A beautiful day...
I saw the Sox win the world series 3 years ago, and now I see a Sox fan in the White House. I saw one guy in Grant Park with the ‘83 Sox Logo with OBAMA written underneath. I was so damn envious. I have been waiting for this day for about 2 years. IT’S A GREAT DAY NOT ONLY FOR SOX FANS, BUT FOR THE NATION AND WORLD!!!!
by Los Soxos on
Nov 5, 2008 3:25 AM CST
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Good to hear the optimism post-results.
Congrats. Strap it on, boys and girls. BO and gang have their work cut out for them, and it’s us who have to do the heavy lifting. No whining from here on out.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 7:28 AM CST
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Strap what on? a Strap on?
Strap it down, strap it up
what does all this mean?
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 5, 2008 7:50 AM CST
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I'm guessing WU likes to wear strap-ons to DP his wife
That, or he means that there’s a lot of work to do and we need to get started (ie strap your boots on, we’ve got work to do).
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
Nov 5, 2008 11:53 AM CST
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As usual, poor guess, idiot.
She uses it on me. I thought you were married already.
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 12:47 PM CST
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nope, you thought wrong...again.
;)
this isn't hard. you live in a port city. and you're a slut. do the math. -larry
by rhythm on
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Onion : Nation Finally Shitty Enough To Make Social Progress
According to a CNN exit poll, 42 percent of voters said that the nation’s financial woes had finally become frightening enough to eclipse such concerns as gay marriage, while 30 percent said that the relentless body count in Iraq was at last harrowing enough to outweigh long ideological debates over abortion.
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by Nordhagen on
Nov 5, 2008 7:54 AM CST
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damn link
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_finally_shitty_enough_to?utm_source=onion_rss_daily
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by Nordhagen on
Nov 5, 2008 7:55 AM CST
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So does this mean the end of political satire....at least for 4 years?
The media wouldn’t dare criticize or inslt Barack Obama, right? I’m very concerned about the lack of comedy, hell even SNL was somewhat enjoyable for the past few weeks.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 5, 2008 9:36 AM CST
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He gets a pass until he does something stupid.
At leas a 100 day grace period. Then Dave Chappelle will do an imitation of him, like he did Tiger Woods (pretty good, too), or someone will spoof him. Give him some breathing room for now. Time to work – playtime is over for awhile, my young friend. At least for we adults.
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 9:45 AM CST
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I expect Colbert will do pretty well in the Obama era
Not sure what the Daily Show will look like, without Bush/Cheney around…
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by Nordhagen on
Nov 5, 2008 9:54 AM CST
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probably sort of like it did before they were around?
"what's the only thing that trumps the dead grandma sympathy vote?"
"the dead mother sympathy vote."
"that's right. which once again illustrates the competency gap between the two campaigns."
by larry on
Nov 5, 2008 10:21 AM CST
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Is Craig Kilborn coming back?
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 10:33 AM CST
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that would be sweet! stewart is played out.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:10 AM CST
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Let the sexual harassment begin!
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 11:26 AM CST
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also, in reference to something that larry linked earlier:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
look at the race figures. it appears that racism is more than alive and well in this country. it’s just that it’s black people that are engaging in it. i know it won’t be covered in the media, and certainly won’t be made to be the issue that it would were it white people doing it, but how about those stats? 95% of black people voted for obama? wow. does anyone else find that interesting?
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by MarketMaker on
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can't really say i find it surprising
The movement was so devastating that television announcer Hawk Harrelson called it "the Doomerang," saying that if Day had enough distance to work with, the pitch would eventually come back to him.
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I like this
McCain should have blacked himself up a bit like Al Jolson. He and his party might have just escaped with a defeat instead of a humiliation.
regards
Wear your poppy with pride.
by hoodlight on
Nov 5, 2008 6:54 PM CST
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He did better than Mondale in '84.
I’m OK with the margin of defeat. He should’ve been at 40% popular vote with the shape of the country currently.
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 6:57 PM CST
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i was actually surprised at the margin of defeat. i thought it might have been a historic beatdown.
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by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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That's what I'm sayin'.
And I didn’t realize until Monday that McCain is 5’7", Obama is 6’1"-ish. No contest – the tall man always wins.
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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the tall man always wins?
yeah, kerry trounced bush
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Nov 5, 2008 7:42 PM CST
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You forgot Bush's 10 gallon hat.
Subtract Kerry’s teeth and there you go. Loser.
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by winningugly on
Nov 6, 2008 8:02 AM CST
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wow. mccain is 5'7"? that's some condolence, i suppose. nobody likes short people.
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by MarketMaker on
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No different than before.
It’s OK. Now Obama is the Man. Can’t rail against the Man if you are the Man. We’ll see how the glass slipper fits.
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by winningugly on
Nov 5, 2008 6:55 PM CST
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So um... is everything fixed?
NO?! It’s been almost 24 hours! Fuck!
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In the mean time…before tonight’s victory rally…here’s something to chew on regarding "taxing the rich" (i.e. "sticking it to the man"):
To my valued employees,
There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse
no shit!
and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this. The economy doesn’t pose a threat to your job.
hmmm, then why all these thousand layoffs? is it the weather?
What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.
WORK-DESCRIPTION-DELETED-FOR-SPACE-REASONS
I respect and admire your work ethic
You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden — the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations… you never realize the full story and the sacrifices I’ve made.
you do not mention the hard work and sacrifice of others that made it possible for you to do what you do
people lost their lives defending this country where you have your business
people paid for the education of the workers you employ
people paid to build the roads your company uses to maneuver goods, employees, etc.
Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn’t.
business have to bail-out people?
when did that happen?
didn’t bush & cheney use taxpayer money to bail-out the banks?
was there a tax imposed on business and I missed it?
The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.
‘the people’ you say?
lehman, meril, aig, coyntrywide, and the other banks are ‘the people’?
whoah nellie!
Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I’ve paid is steep and not without wounds.
Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:
I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don’t pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes.Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes.Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes.
I’ve paid too. I don’t complain.
I live in the best country on the world and I’d like my kids to be able to do the same. It’s not only business that pays/sacrifices.
You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero! Nada! Zilch!
you forgot the tax-cuts you got
The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me,
you do? then why is the economy falling apart?
seems you didn’t do a good stimulating job
the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.
if the pregnant mother doesn’t have a job to earn the money to buy the products of your business then your business is screwed
The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you’d quit and you’d wouldn’t work here. I mean, why should you? That’s nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree, which is why your job is in jeopardy.
Here is what many of you don’t understand … to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy.
the last administration did what you ask
they cut your taxes
why didn’t it work?
Had suddenly the government mandated to me that I didn’t need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole,
whoah, we are dealing with a genius here!
let’s all stop paying taxes
who needs an army?
who needs roads?
who needs schools?
let al-qaida invade, let bin laden come over!
the stimulation will be off the roof!
I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth.
why didn’t you do it when the government cut your taxes?
My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.
better salaries? why didn’t you do what you say but chose to pad your profits?
why did you send jobs in other countries so you can earn more for yourself?
When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don’t defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you Or, do you defibrillate his heart?
I don’t see why I should trust your prescriptions
Business is at the heart of America and always has been.
replace ‘business’ with ‘labor’
here’s an appropriate quote for you
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it.
fascinating! dr. stimulus explains us what to do!
Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the mud of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine.?
I thought our economy is based on consumer spending
Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.
and you can keep your advice
So where am I going with all this?
If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers.
if you fire your workers who’ll keep your company going?
You can then plead with the government to pay your mortgage, your SUV, and your child’s future. Frankly, it isn’t my problem any more.
Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire.
saudi arabia is nice!
don’t complain if someone chops your head off
You see, I’m done. I’m done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship. While tax cuts to 95% of America sounds great on paper, don’t forget the back story: If there is no job, there is no income to tax. A tax cut on zero dollars is zero
thanks [for the financial advice] but no thanks
your [financial advice] record sucks
So, when you make decision to vote, ask yourself, who understands the economics of business ownership
not you
and who doesn’t. Whose policies will endanger your job?
the policies you describe
Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of saving your job.
ok
While the media wants to tell you "It’s the economy stupid" I’m telling you it isn’t.
ok professor!
If you lose your job, it won’t be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me in the South Caribbean sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about.
employees? the ones you fired?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on
Nov 5, 2008 8:14 PM CST
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wiz, do you honestly expect anybody to read all of this? do you know what attention spans are like in this country?
i actually fell asleep halfway through my response to this novel. i’m sure you make some good points, but how about some bullet points for those of us who value our free time?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 5, 2008 11:08 PM CST
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This from the guy that put 150 questions for Getz the same night.
Yep, your free time is precious.
;)
Whoosh!
by winningugly on
Nov 6, 2008 8:03 AM CST
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the clock is ticking on you, sir. why don't you go enjoy your quickly diminishing golden years?
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on
Nov 6, 2008 3:59 PM CST
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Obama a real White Sox fan?
Obama moved to Chicago late in his life, so I question when he became a White Sox fan? When he lived in the Philippines or Hawaii? I doubt it. He is probably only a White Sox fan for political reasons, the same reason as I hope he went to that church on the southside, unless he actually believes what his racist American hating pastor preached.
On Wisconsin!
by Looney_Bucky on
Nov 8, 2008 12:59 PM CST
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Define "late in his life"
After graduation from Columbia he started working as an organizer in Chicago at 23 (1985) and worked on the south side for three years before returning to the east coast to attend Harvard. During his summers he returned to Chicago to intern at various law firms, and after graduating in 1991 he moved back to Chicago and as near as I can tell has been a resident ever since.
Unless I’m wrong, there aren’t a whole lot of major league franchises in Hawaii (or Indonesia for that matter).
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on
Nov 8, 2008 1:21 PM CST
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So if you don't follow a team from childhood, that makes you a bandwagoner? Nice Chicago Tough standards
Since there’s no professional team in Hawaii or Indonesia, and made a name for himself on the south side, I’d say it’s at least a semi-true fandom.
"I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. I’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. I’m gonna rule this world. I’m gonna kick some ass. I’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!"
by Ozzie Montana on
Nov 8, 2008 1:59 PM CST
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so says the guy from wisconsin.
true badger fan right here.
by larry on
Nov 8, 2008 4:26 PM CST
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