12/10 Link Dump
Excuse for shiny new front page post. Will add more as more are found. Also, I always say I'll put links dumped in the comments on the front page post, but I often neglect to do so. So there's that.
- BBWAA finds out internet exists! - They finally added some writers that use the interwebs as an outlet. They are Will Carroll, Christina Kahrl, Rob Neyer and Keith Law. After ten (?) years of doing this, BP has finally acquired enough cred to get into the club. So I guess Cheat can expect his invite in 2015.
- Tango takes on all comers - Fangraphs has gone plaid since the end of the season and is by far the best aggregation of the best baseball stats anywhere publicly available. But that also means explaining some of this stuff to the unwashed masses. Tango obliges in a Q/A post and he's encouraging commenters to come to him with their questions. If there's any guy out there doing better non-proprietory work out there, I'm not aware of it. Plus he's usually very good at clarifying his numerical gymnastics. Go forth and acquire knowledge.
- Tango on Positional Adjustments - This is actually also in the fangraphs comments, but the position adjustment is pretty new and I do a bad job of explaining their necessity.
- Fangraphs on Kerry Wood - Mostly reiterates the quick and dirty comments I made yesterday. His conclusion is probably overblown, but the general idea that closers aren't the best way to spend money seems spot on to me. Though they aren't as bad as JC Bradbury would make it seem. He neglects the role of leverage in amplifying a top reliever's win contributions, which is a pretty critical gaffe. K-Rod isn't responsible for the Mets failing to maximize his utility.
- Yaz vs. Manny (Offense) - John Walsh starts off on a two part mission of discovery. The end game: who was the 2nd best Red Sox left fielder of all time. (h/t: wiz)
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Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 2:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I still can't get over this WPA stat used to judge closers.
I love how we have this extremely heated discussion, than, 2 days later an article comes out proving what my eyes have told me. TY HBT!!!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
THT: John Walsh: Yaz v. Manny
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/yaz-v-manny/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
White Sox plans depend on Dye trade
LAS VEGAS — The White Sox still want to add a starting pitcher this winter, but what kind of pitcher they can get depends on whether they’re able to trade outfielder Jermaine Dye.
The Sox have been trying to move Dye, who will make $11.5 million next year and will be eligible for free agency after that. But a source said this morning that it’s highly unlikely that any Dye deal can be completed at the winter meetings.
Ideally, Dye would net the White Sox a pitcher they could put in their rotation. But even if that doesn’t happen, the Sox could use some of the money they would save on Dye, and also the money they saved by trading Nick Swisher and Javier Vazquez, and allowing Orlando Cabrera to leave via free agency, to bid on a free-agent starter.
The source said the White Sox have no active free-agent talks, as they wait to see whether they can move Dye.
http://danny-knobler.blogs.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/8590096/12207887
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 3:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
My apologies for a redundant post (at least from me)
but I think the most likely the Sox’s next move comes after Tex signs…..then we’ll see who may need a 1B…..hopefully it’s the Nationals.
by stanchar on Dec 10, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
flagged
re-post
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SI's year in pictures issue got to me today
Next to no baseball pictures and missing what was easily the best baseball picture of the year, bias or not, the Che GS in game 162.
sit*
by U-God on Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I teared-up again just thinking about it.....the sunset on the mountains...the Che shirt on my back....the crack of the bat hitting the ball...the glow and smile on his face....the stands erupting...my screams of joy, between tears of the same nature....
what a fond moment. :)

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you a woman?
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 10, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
last time I checked. wait......
yep….still a woman.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thares a spec of dust on the lens or sensor.
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 10, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
theres
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 10, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know...it's my old camera...bothered the crap outta me. Has since been replaced. :)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where is that?
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 10, 2008 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cascade mountains?
http://fooshen.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns392.entry
just a guess
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 6:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
off my front porch - the Cascades.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I nailed it!
is it mount rainier? mount baker?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Baker is just off to the left of the photo - huge, white berg. Rainier is wayyyyy the hell south.
The big mountain on the left is Three Fingers.
The one on the right, under the moon, is Mt. Pilchuck.
Pretty sure the lil snow-capped peak between the two of them is Glacier Peak.
Here’s Rainier (I’ve posted this before) from the airplane, taken on Chi’s iphone. Rainier is breath-taking in person.:

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice
yeah, rainier is breathtaking
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mount_Rainier_panorama_2.jpg
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's very pretty
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 10, 2008 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn that is a sweet picture
I haven’t been out west in a minute (used to go to Red Rocks twice a year plus a ski trip in the winter)
Also that picture is my background on my work computer. The ladies in the office love it
by 815Sox on Dec 10, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you think that's sweet....check out the sunRISE pics I took this past Saturday - the red glow literally filled my bedroom and woke me up from a dead sleep. It was stunning.



...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember exactly where I was
I was at a volleyball tournament at school. It was in-between games, and I brought my portable TV to watch the game on WGN. My buddy and I saw the swing, the hit, we stood up and started SCREAMING, clapping and jumping up and down. No one knew what was going on.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 10, 2008 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what was our regular season record larry?
“88-74”
how did we ever win game 162?
“it’s a miracle.”
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
set as backround
didn’t work… does anyone have a bigger size of this picture?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
try tiling....that's how I had it for a long while....
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tiling? I am kind of computer illiterate.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
see:
QAPS
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
assuming PC-user here, so.....
Start – Control Panel – Display – Desktop tab – Position drop down – Tile
They’ll be 80 little Che’s all over your screen instead of one big pixelated one.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 5:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
80 che's are better than 1
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
80 che's also equals 1 uribe
(or did i not get the memo and all fat jokes have been transferred to viciedo?)
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good ole juanny
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no memo to be gotten...I think Juan is still the fatty boombatty of the team.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bias man
he ain’t wearin the right color pinstripes.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no one on their team saved their season by hitting a grand slam either.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who would put a picture of A-Rod choking on their magazine?
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 10, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Outsports
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Guys...been out of the loop for a while
Just want you to know that I sent Jerry Owens a message on Facebook and he assured me everything is under control for 2009.
Take Care
by Crede's Crew on Dec 10, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just to reiterate what I stated before re: Wood,
I find it amusing that they just take Marcel’s FIP and add .15 to it. “Let’s call him a 3.65 FIP pitcher” . . . the next line should read . . . ‘so the numbers support the point I am trying to make’. You could just as easily assert that Wood’s 2008 season . . . his first full, healthy season as a reliever would be a more appropriate measure for a FIP. You could see his 2.32 FIP from 2008 increase to 2.75 and he would be worth the $14M that is being reported on the high end (@ 60 IP).
Given his ‘stuff’, I think a sub 3 FIP is not an outrageous assumption as many of the top closers in the game regularly sport FIPs under 3.
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 3:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
or
“I cherry-picked these numbers to support my argument” -toonderstrook/larry
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 3:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/colin
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
marcel is what's available in projections atm.
so by definition that’s not cherry picking. but whatever.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Relying on Marcel as a projection
is cherry-picking when traditionally of all the forecasting ‘systems’, isn’t that the least accurate? I thought Marcel’s number were based on 3 years data . . . which makes little sense with Wood. So, how about from a common sense perspective, I think this article is lacking?
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Marcel > Nothing. Marcel < Real Projection Systems
that’s why it exists.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In this case I don't consider Marcel to be greater
than what one’s own mind can deduct. Again, it doesn’t even make sense in this context, but offered support for his argument, so why think ‘outside the box’?
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 5:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why would you neglect relevant information? Marcel is a good baseline.
it’s a starting place. that’s what i’ve been using it as. i can’t speak for Seidman.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not saying that Marcel, in general,
will not provide a baseline in many instances . . . however, in some instances it is completely useless. Go ahead and use Tim Hudson’s ‘baseline’ . . . you use that one and I’ll give you mine and lets see who is closer? Sometimes a little common sense goes farther than just blindly using these projections.
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
jc2313
I appreciate everything that you have brought to this board since your arrival. Keep it up. I am not a big math guy, nor do I have the time or passion to do algorithms in my spare time. Anyone who puts Colin in his place, is alright in my book…
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 7:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as if you could tell.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
have i not been using common sense?
where is the lack i’ve been demonstrating? who are you talking about? me or seidman?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in other words, i'm pretty clearly not
“blindly using these projections”
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and i'm pretty clearly not super attached to their numbers.
Seidman is for the purposes of his article. i called his conclusions overblown as a result. what else is there?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. no other projections available.
uh huh…
willy taveras free?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there's the bill james one too on fangraphs
and?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think it makes sense to start with an assumption that he would be one of the best closers in the game.
but i don’t object to the idea that he could be.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, from a numbers perspective,
he was last year and from a scouting/stuff perspective, there is no reason to think this year was a fluke. THE question with Wood is always health . . . are you going to get those 60 IP.
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you have to regress that performance significantly considering the number of IP
from a mechanical perspective, he’s lost his control before and struggled with his mechanics.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like closer to 2years/$20MM, according to SI.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 10, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And if that is the case, I will state
it is a good deal and money well spent.
by jc2313 on Dec 10, 2008 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his upside is potentially 4WAR
which would be a serious deal at 10 per.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 10, 2008 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasted post.
Toonder – dead.
larry – Clogging with the Amish lasses.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 10, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can I hit a reply button today, or what?
Jeez.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 10, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
seemed to work that time.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this you WU?
Three old ladies were sitting on a bench outside a nursing home. About then an old man walked by, and one of the old ladies said, “We bet we can tell how old you are.”
The old man said, “There ain’t no way you can guess it.”
One of the old ladies said, “Sure we can. Drop your pants!” He did. The three ladies looked at him for a few moments and then the other lady said, “Take off your underwear.”
The guy dropped his underwear and the old ladies stared at him for a while longer and then they all piped up and said, “You’re 84 years old!”
The old man was stunned. “Amazing. How did you guess that?” The old ladies laughed, “You told us yesterday.”
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 10, 2008 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just a little tease for you guys....
i heard the mlb.tv crew today talking about how c.c. sabathia is well on his way to the hall of fame…and that got me to thinking….how well does he compare with our veteran southpaw….so i’m starting to put together a piece about the two i’ll post this weekend or next week depending on how my finals are working out…but yeah it’s gonna be boosh-worthy
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 4:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Anything with Buerhle props gets a booosh from me. And I liked your horsemen stuff...so I am looking forward to it!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cant wait
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
first to post: cc/burls retrospective or getz interview
who ya got?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the getz interview has already been posted in colin's blog
the thing is colin’s blog isn’t in this universe
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
colin's blog < Soxmachine?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bingo!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
head to head
I think I saw the two square off twice and CC took them both.
"Those god damned Cubs get all of the publicity in this town." -George S. Halas, after the Babe's called shot and the Yankees sweep in the World Series, 1932.
by e-gus on Dec 11, 2008 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh bollocks what are we going to do?
what a disaster
According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, the Royals are close to signing lefty Horacio Ramirez. He pitched well for them this year before they shipped him to Chicago for minor league outfielder Paulo Orlando. The Royals would give Ramirez a chance to start.
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 10, 2008 5:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
just reassuring my prediction that as of right now we are the best team in the division.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
future headlines....
horacio ramirez gives up no hits to the chicago white sox in 5 innings of work…however he walked 13 southsiders leading to 3 runs and an eventual win for the sox under a strong pitching performance from Candidate 5….star centerfielder jerry owens had this to say after the win…"you gotta feel bad for horacio sometimes you know? i mean damn i rallied our guys together and told them you gotta swing at something hit a little dribbler back to him…let him get his confidence up some…i worked on my bunting tonight and feel that i’m on the cusp of breaking out…sure i’m hitting .353 and my obp is .432 but by jerry owens standards that’s terrible…oh and here’s some more news for you…kenny’s set to offer me a 3 year deal worth about 66 million and that’s without incentives…carlos beltran ain’t got shit on me…i’d like to thank my buddy over at SSS, where triples go to die for believing in me all the way and giving me the inspiration….Yo! WTGTD!!! I did it!
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
At least be creative
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A. What is the point?
B. I never once said Jerry Owens would bat .353 and be on base .432
C. Never asked for Owens to be extended. Especially not for what you posted. (no incentives? huh?)
D. How is this relevant in any way?
E. No mention of JD not being traded.
F. Furby stands for Fucking Ugly Bitches Yearly.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*Rotten
damn quick post…
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ouch...
well your mom still shows up every night…she fits that category well
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lawl
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 10, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you really wait all night for me to respond?
LOL! get a life.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes i waited all night to hear your words of wisdom
i’m in the library writing a history paper and have the page open…bumblefuck…have we traded dye yet?
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nice excuse
you probably got an adrenaline rush when you saw [where triples go to die] pop up on the bottom of your browser.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
where's the 'r'?
fucking ugly rank bitches yearly, maybe.
proofread, man.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or maybe i should read your star corrections. shit.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
or rotund.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
F. Furby stands for Fucking Ugly Bitches Yearly.
I think he should just change his name to Fuby
"Those god damned Cubs get all of the publicity in this town." -George S. Halas, after the Babe's called shot and the Yankees sweep in the World Series, 1932.
by e-gus on Dec 11, 2008 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i corrected the post
I hit enter on accident when I was in the title.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 7:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and where the fuck do you get me implying that you said owens would hit .353 or the high obp
or owens signing an extension…and yeah the incentives kick in when he steals his 200th base and has a 60 game hitting streak….he’s larger than life…it’s not relevant in any way? who the fuck cares…i posted it for comedy purposes….
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the only person who laughed was
U-God
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
someone else did
because i didn’t rec it
sit*
by U-God on Dec 10, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just find it funny that he took the time out
to actually write it. I am glad I leave such a lasting impression on you all. I appreciate my followers like you and Furby. Continue the hard work.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that took me about 2 or 3 minutes...
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes i think most people on here need to take 2 big steps back
It’s a fucking baseball blog…
Why do people get so offended when someone criticizes their post?
But I guess the drama takes me back……. to high school.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 10, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what about elementary school?
hey Cheat???? eldiablo is saying stuff about me….tell him no…he’s hurting my feelings
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you've been paying close attention,
and i like to think that i don’t, it seems that Cheat has been ripping into people a little more and, letting the occasional curse word fly.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what a fucking cunt
CHEAT YOU BETTER GET ON THIS FUCKING CURSING PROBLEM, ITS GETTING PRETTY FUCKING RIDICULOUS……
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 10:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
flagged
the picture you’ve painted with your words isn’t suitable for having my boss over my shoulder.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who thought Furbs' comment was hilarious, but never even considered it to be personal against WTGTD? The whole Candidate 5/Horacio thing stood out more to me...I just think you take everything too personally.
“But by Jerry Owens standards, that’s terrible.”
I mean…that is funny shit. And he’s talking in 3rd person!!!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Same thing I thought, then I come back and find out WTGTD went on a rampage.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and then i found out i need to get a life too
it was quite the evening
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and we all found out you fuck ugly bitches
quite the evening indeed
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if this offended anyone
it was bad santa talking.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lovely, furbs. ha.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he gone
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711566&vkey=news_kc&fext=.jsp
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YES! YES! YES! YES! YESSSSSSSSSA!
That is the best news of my off-season so far….

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
oh noes!!!
lol! +1 hsa……that poor little bastard that says halp! is next
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nats offer 8/180 to teixeira
http://hotstove.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/12/nationals_make_serious_offer_t.html
what’s up with the nats?
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 6:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
TARP. We're funding it. Really.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 10, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a couple TO projections
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/yankees_signed_sabathia/
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/mets_signed_k_rod/
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 6:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I find this strangely hysterical (from Gonzo Trib)
LAS VEGAS – White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen hasn’t lost his popularity since playing for the Las Vegas Stars in 1984.
Guillen was frequently stopped while walking around the Bellagio by several baseball officials, personalities and fans.
Among the well-wishers was comedian Jeff Ross. But Guillen said he received a firm hug last night from former Sox manager Terry Bevington, who is seeking a job.
(I bet he hasn’t worked since 1998.)
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 10, 2008 7:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok lets say the team is how is at the beginning of the season
How many wins are we looking at with what we have right now?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how many wins
but we are somewhere between 1-2 right now. Twins are going to have a really good staff next year. Indians improved a little bit adding Woody. I think we have the pieces in place and with a couple of moves we should easily be able to take the division again next year. Assuming KW doesn’t have a fire sale.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But its baseball
Anything can happen, we were supposed to finish in the cellar or one stair above it last year
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fangraphs is shite.....
I’m just sayin’
by astralpanda on Dec 10, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
he sucks
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Future Coop project.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he doesn't.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
for matt joyce, eh?
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where
Delmon Young is going to be traded to? The Nats maybe? Gardy said his outfield next year would consist of Span Gomez and Cuddyer. Ouch!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'd take some delmon
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 9:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Young Carl Everett?
Does anyone know if Delmon believes in dinosaurs?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or think wrigley field should be demolished?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 9:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are dinosaurs?
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on Dec 10, 2008 9:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Carl?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reptiles
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 7:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
for the birds
or are, whatever.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy Mets-Indians-Mariners trade going down
and Reed gets to not live up to the hype in another city
sit*
by U-God on Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damnit i wanted to get him back
hes cool
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dye deal real and not dead yet
By Hal McCoy | Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 02:07 PM
Dye-Bailey remains alive. Maybe on a respirator, but it is alive. Maybe it won’t happen – depending on what the White Sox are willing to eat of Dye’s $11.5 million contract and that prospects the Reds are willing to send to Chicago.
also
Still wanted: Righty who can hit
A deal for Dye could still be in the mix as Reds ponder whether to trade or seek out player on free-agent market.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2008/12/11/ddn121108spreds.html
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sox don't eat no stinking salaries!
Don't look back because we are going forward!
by Brush Back on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dayton daily again eh?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 7:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
I included the URL at the bottom of the quote
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf mates
10:17pm: MLB.com’s Jim Street confirmed the deal. The Mariners give up Putz, Green, and Reed and get Heilman, Chavez, Carp, and Gutierrez. The Indians give up Gutierrez and get Valbuena and Smith. The Mets give up Heilman, Chavez, Carp, and Smith to get Putz, Green, and Reed.
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 10, 2008 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know
the mets get the mighty mighty jeremy reed
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 10, 2008 11:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OH NO THEY DID NOT
According to Mike DiGiovanna of the L.A. Times, the Cubs inquired on Chone Figgins. Figgins could theoretically fill Mark DeRosa’s superutility role, though DeRosa seems likely to stay put. DiGiovanna says the Angels won’t be sure of their needs until they sort out the Mark Teixeira and Brian Fuentes situations.
WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY ARE!?
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 10:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At least they arent going after Kotchman.
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 10, 2008 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
shhhhhh
they’ll hear you
larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
by Jbasic89 on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
* Goes back to whittling*
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your Team Should Choose James Skelton in the Rule 5 Draft
James Skelton’s career minor league stats look like this:
276 G 867 AB
253 H 45 2B 5 3B 13 HR
181 BB 179 K
.292/.416/.400/.816
This is a good line out of any catching prospect— not a whole lot of power, but walking more than you strike out is a great indicator of success because it indicates a knowledge of the strike zone coupled with a strong ability to make contact with pitches when necessary. And there’s some hints here that he might develop into a 10 HR guy— a solid number of doubles and triples relative to home runs.
Still, it’s not fabulous. What is (relatively— we are talking about Rule 5 draftees here) fabulous is his age. Skelton just turned 23 about a month ago, and he’s reached AA ball. One of the key predictors of how well a prospect will do is how old he was relative to the average player in the leagues where he was playing— and for most of Skelton’s career, he’s been younger than usual. He’s going to be that again in MLB next year, so it’s nice to know he can hold his own (especially in terms of drawing walks and putting the ball in play) in tough environments.
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/12/10/689116/your-team-should-choose-ja
here are his stats http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=13587
kenny says he has no plans to pick someone in the rule 5 draft
With no plans to select a player in Thursday’s Rule 5 Draft, at least as of Wednesday evening, Williams will depart for home Thursday with his words from Monday’s first interview session trailing behind him. On that opening day, Williams stated how he would be surprised if there were any surprises on the horizon in regard to possible deals.
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 10, 2008 11:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If he had a solid season is AA yes Id love to get him but hes only got 24 games there.
I don't need to look at fancy stats
to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST
by omnipotent grab on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he had a solid season in AA,
he wouldn’t be available in the Rule 5 draft. The Nats took Jesus Flores a couple years ago out of High A and that has worked out pretty well.
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
arizona got him at #11
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/rule_5.jsp
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see we had the #22 pick
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1831
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 11, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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