Hot Stove Heats Up, White Sox Not Cookin
by The Cheat on Dec 11, 2008 12:41 AM CST
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The first two days of the Winter Meetings were pretty boring, even as the predictable big money deals rolled in (K-Rod to the Mets, CC to the Yankees). But things started to pick up late Wednesday. Most notably, (from the White Sox perspective) the Tigers and Indians made a couple of trades; the Tigers sending Matt Joyce to the Rays for Edwin Jackson and the Indians getting caught up in a 3-way trade with the Mets and Mariners centering around J.J. Putz.
These two trades should have an effect not just on the Sox '09 season, but on their off-season too. Yesterday afternoon, Wiz linked to a CBS blog that put the rest of the Sox off-season quite succinctly.
The White Sox still want to add a starting pitcher this winter, but what kind of pitcher they can get depends on whether they're able to trade outfielder Jermaine Dye.
The writer seems to think the Sox want to be active in the free agent starting pitching market, but I'd say given their rumored demands for Dye that they are more likely to be looking to get a young starter in return for Dye, and replace his production via free agency.
The Rays and Jackson were one of the rumored destination and targets in the Jermaine Dye rumors, which seemingly removes a suitor. Amazingly, all 5 AL Central teams were looking to move a corner outfielder at the meetings; Jermaine Dye (White Sox), Matt Joyce (Tigers), Franklin Guitierrez (Indians), Delmon Young (Twins), Jose Guillen and Mark Teahen (Royals) have all been involved in the rumor mill, which, along with a saturated corner OF/DH free agent market, makes for a relatively light demand for Dye in a trade.
The Indians moved Franklin Gutierrez in their massive trade with the M's & Mets, and should complete their deal with Kerry Wood sometime Thursday, which leaves only one marquee closer on the free agent market.
Seeing as the market for Dye, while noisy, is tepid at best, and with possibly all attractive closer candidates off the market by the weekend, the Sox may shift their focus to using Bobby Jenks as a trade piece. The Mariners just received a haul for Putz (and two fringe major leaguers), and if Brian Fuentes is snatched up by a team like the Angels, the Sox might find themselves holding quite a valuable commodity. I don't want to speculate here, but lets just say I can see the Sox improving themselves significantly if they play their hand right.
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It will be sad to see Jenks go...
but if it gets us a CF and some other pieces, that would be nice to see. Who would close? Easy heat?
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Dec 11, 2008 2:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only problem with using Easy Heat is replacing his spot in the pen.
I think that he has the best stuff to do it and he would be my choice. But i just get the feeling that Ozzie would rather go to Dotel since he’s done it before…
Obviously it’s down to those 2 because we’ve seen that Linebrink doesn’t want to close.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2008 6:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post Cheat,
I’m guessing that it will only take our local sportswriters another week or so to be proactive, look at the market, and figure out what took you probably 10 minutes to realize.
I like Jenks too but, if he brings good value…..Adios.
I keep seeing Baldelli’s name on MLBTR. I wonder what kind of contract he’s looking for / going to get? Since we’ve been linked to him in the past. I still laugh when i think about Rocco getting a beer dumped on him.
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2008 6:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think he's been marketing himself as a 4th outfielder
Er by he, i guess that would be his agent
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Dec 11, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
but too bad for most of you “makes for a relatively light demand for Dye in a trade”. Now there is NO chance they are trading Bad Bobby either. If Kenny is trying to compete and stay young at the same time trading Bobby Jenks makes no sense. There are very few in the league that can do what he does…be consistant. No matter where he ranks in your projected top 10 closers, he arguably has been one of OUR top 3 strenghs over the last 3 1/2 seasons. You don’t trade a fairly young proven commodity for unproven commodities unless you are able to clean out someone’s system. Since Kenny is so adamant about having a good bull pen, I see nothing but speculation here. The whole point of signing Linebrink to a 4 year deal, and Dotel to 3 years, was to get some guys who could get Bobby the ball. Plus why would you sign those guys to long term deals if you planned on dealing Bobby the next offseason? It would make no sense to build your middle relief and then trade your closer, the whole reason you signed these guys in the first place. As for Matt Thornton, he has never shown me anything that tells me he can close ball games in pressure situations.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 7:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Easy Heat's never shown us anything that says he can't
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 8:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
REALLY?
Have you ever seen him pitch with a game on the line? He is not closer material. He wasn’t even set up man material going into last season. So what makes you believe he can close? Because he throws hard? His control has been known to go away from time to time, as opposed to Bobby where he has had consistent control since he got here. Of course your little butt buddy would have to chime in.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his high k/9 and k/bb ratios and pretty solid whip, bb/9, and hr/9 make me a believer
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who cares about that crap?
Billy Koch had a high k/9 ratio.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he had about 3 less ks/9 than thornton
and twice as many bb/9 and just about 3 times the amount of hr/9
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, only address one of the five statistics he cited.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who cares
He looks like a dear in headlights when put in high leverage situations.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is attractive to some.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry IDGFlyingF
what his k/9 or whip or any of that crap is. If a guy in my bullpen makes my sphincter tighten up any time I see him pitch, I don’t want him as my closer. Call it anal intuition.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
bobby "i like to put a runner on base every outing" jenks doesn't do that to you?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
seriously
good point.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no
because he is not trying to blow guys away anymore. did you see him putting guys on base when he was throwing 100mph?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
his walk rates were higher back then
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he only threw 100mph
for a half season. he was throwing somewhere between 93-96 in 06’
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his highest bb/9 ratio came in 06
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the year he changed his method...
hmmmm…..
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not even sure you know what point your making anymore
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the point is
he’s right. c’mon. get it through your thick skull. logic left a power vacuum and wgtgd’s full blown retardation is filling the void.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
His MPH has dropped since he got here.
Yet he is still ranked 4th in WPA. That tells me that he is learning how to pitch as opposed to just being a flame thrower.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only that, but how many years does a closer usually maintain his closing schtuff?
I would rather use Bobby’s current value to get someone good (and try Dotel – hope he has a great season – or Thornton to close) than let him fizzle out on our watch.
Bobby can give up a home run or put runners on base as well as the next one. I love the guy – been great to us – but if he is the player who gives us leverage to get something we need more (CF/SP), I’m all for trading him.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He can still get it up there at 100mph as he showed
in game 163 and in the playoff game. He has become a pitcher. I don’t see the decline? He chose not to throw 100mph so he could stay healthy and add longevity to his career. There is a long list of closers who “maintained” their stuff.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and an even longer list of ones who haven't
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
by not throwing as hard...
of course his k/9 is going to go down… I would be willing to bet that his ground ball rate has increased since 05’.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well no shit
less strikeouts is gonna lead to more outs in the other departments
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well he has shown us
HE IN FACT, DID NOT LOSE HIS FASTBALL! He is trying to preserve his career by changing his method. So what if his peripheral stats go up? It doesn’t necessarily mean he is declining. He is still getting the job done, just doing it in a different way.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And he very well may have another great season, maybe more, in him.
But why hang on to a player until they are donefer and you can’t get shit for them, when he may be the most valuable trade bait we have, for positions that must be filled?
I’d rather have a SP.
I’d be pushing for the Jenks trade, if I were you….it’s either him or your man/membership after all….
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who says he's done hsa?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Certainly not me.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW I would rather lose my membership
than lose those 2 guys if we are expecting to contend next season as I believe we are.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ever heard that you have to sacrifice in order to gain? Or that the greatest sacrifices yield the greatest rewards?
I don’t want Bobby gone either. But we have gaping holes at huge positions, and in order to fill them properly, we need to get rid of some value.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i'd listen to the lady, triples
that’s the board’s foremost authority on filling huge gaping holes talking
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
haha! This is true.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
She teed that up pretty well for you.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone else can say "gaping holes" and be taken seriously. :P Maybe aside from Colin...
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's the offseason
we don’t want to strain ourselves or anything. just some simple BP to keep in shape.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like throwing a pencil down a hallway.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i've always said "hot dog"
instead of pencil. using meat is more crudely allusive and the alliteration really makes it sing.
by Ryno on Dec 11, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well now we know about colin's self-image
not to go all freud or something.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ho-ho would work even better!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
especially for depressed fucked cake eating
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would lead to depressed fucked-snack-cake eating.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
for using the term “gaping hole”.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the point of the argument
he’s not “done”. he still has an awesome arm at a price that can’t be beat. teams would be willing to give up a lot to get him. the argument is whether it would be better for the organization to keep him or flip him to plug holes that need filling.
how hard is that to get?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am never against an offer that
I can’t refuse.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
it seemed last season it was an anomaly if bobby didn’t put people on. i should have gotten bags of kingsford before each game for my sphincter tightening. i could have started a diamond business that rivals debeers.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
cuz not looking terrified is totally necessary
i mean, looking like a crazy person or badass really helped balfour or koch
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure you dye your beard as well
That is key
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, yes.
thornton certainly is a dear. his grandmother always says that. very helpful.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
am I the only one who saw him tighten up in high leverage situations? I would look at splits but I am busy working.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually, can anyone look up his WPA for me?
thx in advance
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why does this silly stat matter more than k/9, k/bb, whip...
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who gets it done? who doesnt?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You are a joke.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It shows what your win percentage was
going into the inning, and what it was boosted up to when Player A was inserted into the game.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
a good WPA
means you increase your teams chances of winning.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whoa, whoa, whoa
the guy around here who shows the most ambivalence to stats is now using them? did i miss something?
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if I can cherry-pick a stat
and use it to my advantage… then, yes!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
right. and how does win percentage and the change thereof get computed?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not sure...
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
might want to understand the stat before deciding it's the greatest thing since the creation of the save.
it’s can be a useful stat when utilized properly. not sure you’re doing that here, however.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The stat must have some relevance
if the top closers in the game, all have top WPA’s.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they also tend to be up there in saves
and we all know how great that stat is
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good closers
happen to play on good teams?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
go on...
I am not opposed to learning something new. Sometimes you have to look BTB.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
opportunity is one of the main variables of that stat.
players on good teams will generally have more opportunities to have a higher WPA. closers will generally get more opportunities in high leverage situations than set-up men. comparing a closer with a non-closer doesn’t necessarily tell you that much.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't trying to compare his WPA against Thorntons if you got that impression.
Just against other closers in the league.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
larry of all people
I would imagine you to use common sense.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
line vs Thorton in high lev in 08
.207/.275/.354
That sucks.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i know. common sense would tell you that.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Fuku's 2nd half.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
all this matt thornton talk
is only because of his 08 season. Not a big enough sample size.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you do a 5/4/3 weight of his 06-08 FIP
you get a 3.31 FIP. his ‘08 season was definitely his best though and there’s not really much reason to think he’s established a new performance level…i think.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is why I am not a believer
in M-Dog just yet. He will have to show me sustained sucess before I just go passing the torch to him.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if we aren't going to be good
i don’t mind not having a legit closer.
but if kenny thinks the team can compete, i think i’d prefer bobby to be on it. there’s probably some spoiled fan base thing going on here too. we don’t remember what it was like to have a crap closer anymore, perhaps.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think i'm being consistent
on this closer issue.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you are looking BTB colin!
congrats!
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
by the by?
big ten burrito?
…
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
out side of the box...
or Beyond the Boxscore… intangibles, things that don’t get recorded like how much urine ran down into your sock… stuff like that.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
can he handle the pressure of being the closer? That is indeed the unknown. I just don’t want to feel cocky about my bull pen, trade the best guy out of it, and learn the hard way that the guy I believed could close can’t. Plus Thorton has had 1 decent, 1 awful, and 1 pretty good year since he has been here.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're just not very good at this stuff.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what?
This is obviously the only thing you live for, so you better be good at it.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we can't all
have bill of ladings skillz in our back pocket. you haughty jerk.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What is funny
is that you have no idea in what context you are using that term.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it is not a skill you retard.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and if it is? it is unmeasurable.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you're not a skill.
burn.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so's your face
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haughty Jerk
That line alone made it worth sifting through all this garbage conversation….
Well that and the Gaping Hole stuff
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2008 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its an unknown
til you give the guy a shot. what kind of backwards ass reasoning is this?
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
people sure like to jump on WTGTD, huh.
he’s not always making stupid points, people, even if you disagree.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you!
I am just trying to give people a different point of view. I am sure I am wrong a lot but I have proven to have some kind of luck/wisdom with what I say.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not jumping on you
Nor do I disagree with all of your points, but the way you go trying to make them can be pretty rude
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and the way people often respond to them isn't?
welcome to SSS.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Example =
I am only rude when I have to defend myself against 10 of you.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WITH THE STRENGTH OF TEN
ORDINARY MEN!
HERCULEEEEEEEEEES!
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's made 2 - which one?
Pressure-tested, or Matty’s somewhat inconsistent history with the Sox?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the latter.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
both.
there is something to being able to “forget”. closers, rightly or (more appropriately) wrongly, get an undue amount of attention from the fans and the press for their successes and failures. even if their lack of success in the role has little to nothing to do with their underlying stats, you still need to be able to handle the additional scrutiny that comes with this role. while luck will play a role in this (having early success in the role will give you a lot more rope than if you have poor success early, even if that success of lack thereof is not statistically relevant), it’s still there.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"poor success"
is that what jerry owens has?
by Ryno on Dec 11, 2008 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A short memory is a necessity.
Interesting, though, how you square that with being able ot remember tendencies. Closers just might have to worry about their “stuff”, and now how to pitch a particular hitter. I would think “forgetting” and “remembering” are an example of a “cognitive dissonance” event.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we should ask milan kundera
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
is there any evidence that
major league pitchers are frequently susceptible to that kind of thing and if so what kind of effect are we talking about?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly
couldn’t have said it any better.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
esp the part about fan expectations.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all this
But finding a “closer” in the grand scheme of things is not hard. I love Bobby but I do feel the Sox have enough talent bullpen wise and minors to trade him if the deal is right and save money.
I think WTGD puts a little too much emphasis and is making some general statements (like Thorton in high lev situations) that is just false.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"But finding a "closer" in the grand scheme of things is not hard."
Is that why so many teams are in the market for a closer?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to other needs.
Yes I stand by what I said. Closers can from anywhere.
Now starting pitching…..
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the market's flush, no?
and K-Rod got nowhere near what he was bandying about earlier. there’s pretty good evidence that closers are being paid pretty much what they’re worth.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what did Wood sign for?
1 good/healthy year. That is a big gamble for the Injuns.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a lot of money
for a guy who has stayed healthy for 1 out of the last 4 years IIRC.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
going rate per win above replacement is 5 per.
and he’s got quite a bit of upside. seems solid to me.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also quite a bit of downside.....................................
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You do the math...
what are the chances that his arm doesn’t fall off (literally).
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
err ?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dn
that’s on the indians, no? i think he got about fair market value based on my perception of the average of all the possibilities.
i will say that one of the things you pay a closer for is consistency.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
0%
Now figuratively speaking, there are actually some fair odds that that could happen
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Dec 11, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol I know...
they could get him in the booth with Santo… Pirates of Wrigleyville
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i've only seen year terms
not dollars. two years plus vesting third per google news search.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think MLBTR
Had something about 2yrs/20Mil which i find ridiculous.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Per latest on MLBTR
4:42pm: Castrovince says Wood is headed to Cleveland for a Thursday physical. He believes the two-year, $20MM deal will include a third-year option of some variety.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe K-Rod turned down less
money because he wanted to pitch in a big market? Make even more money by being able to market himself in a big city?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If anything
He’d need more money b/c it’s expensive to live in New York. Not to mention, he’s a closer, not Lebron James. I don’t think he’d tke a large pay cut for the hopes of endorsement deals. This just, seems to be what the market was for him. Unfortunately for him, there was a lot of closers out there, he’s not truely an elite closer, and the economy is down. Bad timing.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's the Hispanic Jenks,
in that he had a great saves year nd closed a lot of easy saves. But a year or tow ago he was one of the most feared closers in the game. He’s lost some steam off his heater (sound familiar) but still seems to be getting the job done.
I’d say he’s still one of the better closers in the game. How much is Mo getting/year? $15MM? He’sthe gold standard, same market.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesn't sound familiar at all.
Bobby hit 100mph this past year!!!!!! C’MON WU GET WITH IT! I don’t believe he is TRYING to throw 100 anymore. It is not that he can’t, it is that he has taken a different approach.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but from what i’ve seen from cost of living adjustments, you don’t want to take less money AND live in new york.
plus endorsements and such usually go to the glitz and glam guys.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to steal my thunder
and put exaclty what I said in a more concise quote.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
associate editor powerz ftw
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so southern california isn't a big market?
oh, it is so ON!
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
EAT IT, WEST COAST!!!
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
excellent rebuttal.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
so many teams? That is exactly why teams are willing to let good closers go. I know every year there is a team or two who crash and burn on the national stage but overall its not that hard.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am all for trading Bobby for the right price
But i would agree with most of WTGTD has said..
I hate the whole Devin Hester Arguement. That you had a good return man and you tried to make him more…
My parallel would be Thorton. You have a good solid lefty in the pen, he doesn’t seem to be itching to close…
Don’t ruin what you have…
I am going to ask you one time, and i'm gonna ask you nice. Where the fuck is Ringo bitch.
by ElDiablo on Dec 11, 2008 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agree with u-god
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post Cheat
Detroit is quietly improving themselves and pretty significantly. I dare say I am a tad worried but I know the Sox are not done yet.
If the haul is right I don’t have an issue trading Jenks. The Sox have depth there (sorry WTGD) and also have candidates in the minor to make the bullpen even stronger.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 7:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Tigers are
just making these moves so they can try and compete with us.
…and everyone laughed at Kenny.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit still has no rotation.
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really worried about D Town
More so the Indians or the Twins, but I still don’t see them able to beat us.
However, as many often say, it is baseball. We can crunch all the wonders we want but we can’t change that.
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell froze over...
No linky-love here, but Crouch in the Sun-Times actually praised Kenny’s “plan” (dumping salary, getting younger) today. While premature since we don’t know what else he’ll do, I can’t remember the last non rip-job in that paper. Unless it was a Conway Twitty Cowley Twitter.
""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck
by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2008 8:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have
Always had a feeling that Poreda would be our closer of the future.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox have the inside track on free agent outfielder Bobby Abreu, according to the New York Daily News.
i wouldnt mind seeing him in left……
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Bobby. If we get him, bye, bye Dye in a heartbeat.
Can’t believe they’d keep both.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
while still being old and crusty
he can still swipe an occasional bag here and there… wonder what he’d cost/years. 3/30?
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and we dont have any major league ready corner OF's to replace JD
in the minors right now
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good estimate, though I wonder if he'd go for a 1-year shot.
Probably not.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it'll be interesting to see
some guys may only want to go one year in hopes of the market/economy being better next year and hitting FA again.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be there mistake IMO
Maybe its just because I am living in a city that has been in a freefall decline for 10+ years but it doesn’t seem like its going to get better for awhile
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WU says the second half of 2009. larry says not until 2010.
we report, you decide. but you’re a dumbfuck if you agree with WU on anything.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 13, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes - my guiding philosophy in life is that larry is infallible.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 14, 2008 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL again!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 14, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heheheheheheheeehehehehe.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 15, 2008 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The career obp of .400
.370 the last 2 would also be very very nice.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
id enjoy it
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it..
Probably more like 2 / 20. If K Rod only gets 3 years / 37 mil, I think he’s looking at a two year deal.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Career line at US Cellular in 76 PAs.
.381 / .487 / .746 /1.233
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is not good news for WTGTD
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and...your point?
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it is total BS speculation based on
what ifs?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tick, tick, tick...
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is like when I am lying in bed
looking at the alarm, and there is less than one minute before the Black Eyed Peas begin to blare in my ear as the alarm goes off.
Black Eyed Peas are the only thing that currently get me to get up and shut the d*mn thing off.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They should be on the "Music Terror List", then?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If there is such a list, yes.
I have a CD that plays the same song everymorning. “Lets get it started”….UGH!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is - I referenced the list earlier this week.
“Shoot to Thrill”, “Bodies”, some TIN, some Sesame Street/Barney songs. Look at the bottom of the music fanpost.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, that's "NIN", not "TIN". I always add an inch.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
we all could learn from this.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
97.1 (the drive) used to do that for me - by ALWAYS playing The Eagles when my alarm was going off. That is not stuff I want to start my day.
I hate the fucking Eagles, man.
/dude
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You need some more Creedance, man.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They are on goddamn tour again.
So much for “Hell Freezes Over”.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
holla fo' tha dolla.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Though he's getting old,
I still like this guy. High obp, decent ops, and he is still fast. 22 sb last year. Is his defense really that bad? He won a gold glove in 2005. He’s still got speed. Shouldn’t he be better than Dye?
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Dec 11, 2008 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
CS
he did get thrown out 11 times out of his 33 attempts…..
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He still can tutor Che.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
che needs no tutoring!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 13, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, his defense is that bad. Worse than Dye's.
And I don’t know you are upgrading the offense either.
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
does he play center? NO.
He would only be an option if Dye is traded, which doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. I wonder where these people dream this stuff up? Do they eat mushrooms, and decide to write a column?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
closers
so with basically fuentes left…who are looking for closers?
StL, MIL, DET, TB(unless they like wheeler), SD(although i think bell will take over), TEX
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
TB still has a nice pen - Howell is pretty good, too -
but they could still use someone closing who isn’t almost as old as me, and more brittle.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess theyd prob give balfour a shot as well
even though he only has a fastball.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've said before that he's a little volatile - not sure about the closer role
being his best utilization. (Helluva pitch, though.)
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
can anyone say Thornton?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Jermaine.
Consummate professional, just really solid. But if we can improve the team short term and long term (MOST IMPORTANT), we have to pull the trigger.
Economics are obviously huge (and IMO will be even more so moving forward) If we have to send $2 or $3 million along in the deal, I say do it. Don’t do this makeover half assed.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 9:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Like the bailouts?
Depending on the deal I’d be up for sending more than $3MM.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently
the reds still like throwing money at crappy vets ala livan hernandez and razor ramon hernandez… so id say reds prob wont happen.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cameron/Cabrera trade? Where's OUR CF?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3761924
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 9:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
ask WTGTD
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ask Ozzie
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
read the link dump
then you’ll see our cf
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the Brewers with this one.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
seems like a pretty weak haul for Cameron (I don’t think much of the Melkman — looks no better than a decent 4th OFer). Cameron still strikes me as a very, very useful player — can still handle CF, good baserunner and an average-or-better hitter. I’d also guess that he’ll age pretty well, seeing how athletic he is. Heck, he’s probably more valuable than Dye, although perception might not be that way…
which makes me a bit more disappointed that the Bailey/Dye deal didn’t go through. Even with Bailey’s issues, I thought that (plus the freed up cash) would’ve been an absolutely fantastic deal for the Sox.
by CWSKeith on Dec 11, 2008 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
one generally doesn't get much for one year of a player.
a-rod is a traitor.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
especially
when the market is flooded with the same types (aging, poor fielding, corner outfielders)
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that doesn't really describe cameron that accurately.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you are right
thought you were talking about dye.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fukudome.
go get ’em, KW.
a-rod is a traitor.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
u like for real?
U expect a much better 2nd year?
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think larry might be funnin', but you never know.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd take a similar year from a good defensive CF any day of the week.
i may even do the deal even if the cubs didn’t throw in money.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's he making - $10MM+/year for another 3 years?
That seems to be a lot for a guy who hit what he hit after the ASB and doesn’t want to play CF.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would concur with that statement
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm. i wonder why he hit what he hit after the ASB.
could it be BABIP? i know, i know. that’s never the answer.
he’s not as good as his numbers in the first few months. and he’s not as bad as he was in the last few months. his season line seems pretty representative of what he can do.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, but he also looked quite overmached the last month every time I saw him.
Plus, he doesn’t want to play CF. And he seems to be more of a NL player, IMO.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't believe that whole doesn't want to play CF thing.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Based on...?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what do you base his i don't want to play CF on?
marketing schtick. he’s going to be playing CF for the cubs next year if he’s still on their team. after last year, one doesn’t get to make demands.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He might just do the honorable thing
and fall on his sword, so this might all be moot.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm starting to think "overmatched" isn't a good predictor
i was seeing the same thing in ’07 with JD and then all of a sudden he started catching up with fastballs again. that could just be what BABIP variance comes down to sometimes.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He also looked like Paulie/Eeyore,
so maybe it was a confidence thing. Swish had the same look the 2nd half. Bad luck, experienced long enough, wears at you.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a lot easier for things to fall apart than to get better.
en-tro-py! en-tro-py!
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be all for it
if it wasn’t for that contract. He could end up being a major bust and we are stuck with it for 3-years.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if he hits what he hit last year and plays the defense in CF one would expect a guy who put up the numbers he did in RF
not to mention his history in japan in CF, that contract looks about right. might be worried about the third year because of age but i’d take the gamble. he sure looks like an ultimate sell-low for the cubs and would require a change of scenery, even if only eight miles of it.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There was some sppeculation that he "hit the wall"
re: length of season. Maybe the pitchers figured him out. Maybe it was BABIP. Either way, I’d want some cash with the deal.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also heard
he was afraid of the ball… hahahahaha
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
while there were a whole lot of anecdotes about how he was being pitched.
his pitch fx didn’t really show anything different between the first and second half.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will have to look at that. Thanks.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and looking on the hardball times just now.
apparently someone in their fantasy section did just this analysis.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This?
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/what-the-fukudome-happened-to-kosuke
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If the numbers average out from last year
sure….I like the deal. But, there is still too much unknown and I don’t like the contract.
Comparing stats from Japan to here aren’t always scientific. There is different competition, more adjustments that need to be made, possibility of home sickness, new country, longer season, different weather, etc.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
grow some fucking balls, bobby.
too much unknown. christ. welcome to life.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
leave my balls out of this!
I tend to limit my risk when it comes to my wallet.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i see you've just revealed yourself as robert mazer.
otherwise, who cares.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Who the hell is Robert Mazer?
Can he play CF?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Board of Directors member.
Someone with some actual skin in the game.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What Board?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sox'.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No Fuku please
That dude is going to be one major bust. Let the Subs keep him
by 815Sox on Dec 11, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You'd hope the Cubs would throw in some cash
If he could play CF, it would be an interesting move…I wouldn’t be against it if the Sox don’t have to give up anything real important — sort of like a reverse Swisher trade.
by hitlesswonder on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That isn't a lot of money for the CFer he would project to be over
the next 3 years.
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess for me it depends if the Cubs front some of the bill.
His BABIP nosedived after the asb. So he is probably somewhere in between.
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
somewhere in between what?
high babip first half, low babip second half. right at .300 for the year. sounds like his numbers for the year were about right.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, we have nothing to compete with "Horry Cow".
Maybe “FukuThome”?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
could be a decent
buy low guy. hard to say if he’ll ever be worth 10+ mil a year though.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I always like Cameron
thought he wold a nice player for the sox over one or two years.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't spell.
www.stallingtheman.blogspot.com
by Raf on Dec 11, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I welcome you with open arms to the klub.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at this game....and was happy to cheer for him.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200305020.shtml
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
coulda been this game...or maybe I was at both...Cameron rocked us the whole series, I think.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200305030.shtml
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You were also at this game, and saw Cameron's walk-off HR:
I think that’s the night we had Gov. Thompson’s seats…
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA199808082.shtml
""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck
by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
:D
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah, well i was at this one:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200205020.shtml
so THERE
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice. Did you stay through the 1st?
If so, why?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
beer, mariners fan from the dorm with a nice rack
and once he hit his third, a chance to see history (the 5th shot was just about warning track, damn)
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HOLY CRAP, I found it!! (I was rushed earlier due to time constraints). This is definitely the game I was at - sitting in the 100's on the 1st base line...I thought he had hit 4 HRs...woot!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200205020.shtml
M Cameron CF 5 4 4 4 0 0 .271 1.012 26 4 0 4·HR,HBP
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look up
and the bleachers is totally where it was at that game
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No shit! Well....we were both there. I loved how the game was so out of reach and the fans were so shocked, that we all just cheered the shit outta Cameron. That was so freaking awesome.
hehehehe
(And we both got to see BA’s big home run in Seattle last May) :)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got a job in a nutrition lab next semester
Hell yeah
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
goon squad movin on up in life
takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm
by furby2056 on Dec 11, 2008 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uribe might be one of your subjects?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei in the malnutrition lab
""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck
by Chiburb on Dec 11, 2008 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they actually are adding a human test to it
but mostly companion animals and a 2500 lb steer
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"companion animals" ??
A layup.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you at
the University of Arkansas?
University of West Virginia?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Kick Ass
good luck with that, sounds like it could be fun
what’s your field of study?
My Mom and Dad went to Oklahoma, and all they brought back for me was this signature.
by rhythm on Dec 11, 2008 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a baseball blog -
NAMBLA is not linked here. (“Hey, nutrition guy, what’s your major?”)
Jesus, rhythm…
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HA!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pre-vet
much like WU back in the 30s
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When the buffalo roamed freely.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Injuns.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fuck joba.
How much is that Uribe in the window?
by thecip on Dec 11, 2008 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So what happens if one team signs multiple type A free agents?
how are the other teams compensated?
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure
the next team gets a second round pick and so on.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that sucks
does it just go in order of date of signing as to who gets the first round pick?
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so in theory a team could lose like it's first 7 rounds worth of picks?
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no. there are limits regarding how many a team can sign. i'm sure you can find that information. i'd consider it irrelevant since no one will actually ever approach the amount.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i was just curious
and this is where i seem to do the majority of my baseball learning
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
rule 5 draft starts in ten minutes.
white sox can pick at #17.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 10:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No plans to pick anyone, yes?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not according to the suntimes
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it online, Larry.
Link?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad they don't bother to update the tracker. they're already on pick four.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you following this?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you have mlb.tv you can follow it live.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thx.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
here
there’s a guy liveblogging it.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2008/12/11/689493/rule-5-discussion#comments
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Christ, they don't fuck around - boom, boom, boom.
How much time between selections is allowed?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like three minutes, i think.
in practice, it’s thirty seconds, if that.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And they're done.
Like sex with my wife: “Pass” (her quote, not mine).
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sox pass.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
goddamn fucking rays just took derek rodriguez from us.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Sox will regret not putting him on the 40 man.
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and not protect clevelan santeliz?
:p
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
by The Wizard on Dec 13, 2008 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what pick are they on? The computers at school won't let me watch mlb.tv
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
that was quick
25 mins and its 1/3 over? wow.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reds
According to Ken Rosenthal, the Reds have reached an agreement with lefty reliever Arthur Rhodes on a two-year, $4MM deal. It’s pending a physical.
another reason why the reds cant/wont take on JD’s salary…. they are piling up money spent on spare parts this off-season.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 11:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd suggest otherwise
The fact they keep adding veterans means to me they think they can win some ball games, and therefore would be more interested in a player like Jermaine Dye.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope - IMO they are trying to build volume, throw it against the wall, and see what sticks.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I kind of agree
But at the same time, you wouldn’t add all this volume if you weren’t planning on competing.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but they've already added close to 10 mil in payroll
on just new acquisitions
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how much salary did they dump midseason?
not like the reds don’t have cash to splash.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whatever dunn made
but they are the reds, so maybe they’d wan to add payroll because dusty thinks they can compete.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey’s salary alone should make that irrelevant no?
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
forgot about GS
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
KC chooses C Richard Shomi. (I only slightly exaggerate.)
Shomi, Dick. BWAHAHAHAHA!
White Sox choose 3B Michael Hunt.
I like this!
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
his parents really wanted him to be called michael instead of mike
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They were either really oblivious, or terribly cruel.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am watching this
And it skipped over the White Sox. When did they select?
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Hunt.....bwahahahahaha!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted us to draft Richard Head but we passed on him
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 11, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who got protected over rodriguez?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
no one, considering the sox had space, no?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i thought
and that’s kind of annoying. rodriguez would have been a nice option in the pen. not sure why we’d just let that loose.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there an explanation for that because
I don’t understand it.
by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
only that this happened last year too and it apparently didn't matter
KW was all over the AFL, so he probably got a good eye full of his own players.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: How many MLB parks have pipe organs?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know of ANY ballparks with pipe organs? Maybe that's a better question. Wrigley, right?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
of the non Sox parks i've been to, none of them had them when i was there. obvs nancy doesn't get to do every day.
list:
-miller park
-PETCO
-the big A
-Dodger
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not the longest list ever...
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have never seen one of this Rule V before
But 29 teams passes in AA. Is this how it normally goes? How boring.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 11:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
did you think the drafting of players who have been in the minors long enough to be picked and aren't above AA would be interesting?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And, if so, Wiz is looking for a roomie.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, I have never seen one of these before
I know nothing of the caliber of players or how it works. My bad.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
probably all that's left is the dregs no one wants any of em
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 11, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As evidenced by "pass, pass, pass".
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like the kids who don't get tops and fingers at the school disco
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just like that!
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Re the Abreu talk.
What’s gained if it’s Dye out, Abreu in? Simple defensive metrics are similar.
LH bat? Speed?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Less salary, bit better defense I’d think regardless what the metrics say, better base runner, and whatever we get in return for Dye.
So.. Abreu + what we get for Dye vs. Dye
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Sp
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain.
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chone's projections have him as 5 runs worse than JD in the corner.
even if his SB rate sucked, that’s way better than JD would ever manage…that does seem kind of wrong to me since for the most part, outfield defense and athleticism are highly correlated. it doesn’t seem like there’s any reason to suspect he’d be actually good there though.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Abreu playing LF or RF for Yanks?
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
RF.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
two consecutive years of 150+ games in right
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SO he wont be THAT bad in LF
To be honest, Q! did not look very good in LF either, and we survived.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it would be nice to have a legit CF
if we’re going to have stinkbombs in both corners. i think carlos can do better than he showed last year though.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only because he was injured the last month, and Wise replaced him.
(Ducks and smiles.)
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he looked alright...
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw, the research shows
if asked to play either, they will likely play either equally well.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
his BB rate fell significantly below his career average in NY too
not sure if that’s a red flag or what.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You dont win over NY fans by walking
I blame the pressure of NY and him turning more into freeswinger to hit HR to appease NY critics
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps.
but it isn’t like the media here are anymore understanding.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Sox fans are much more loving
I don’t recall us booing our players like they do in NY.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I blame the HR Derby
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so to actually answer the question
i think they’ll be worth about the same. the break even point for a LF/RF becoming a DH is 10 runs below average in the field, which is just about where both will be if not next year then in 2010 for sure.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A starting pitcher
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
by SuddenSam on May 22, 2008 9:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by Tdogg on Dec 11, 2008 12:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
?
"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08
by ballyb on Dec 11, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think his reply button failed
In regards to “What is gained if Abrue in, Dye out.”
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A pitching starter
number one when it mattered!
by hoodlight on Dec 11, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A pitcher to commence the games.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A player to throw the ball off the mound in the first inning of the baseball contest
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or the first object used to hold water
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Better if he related it to beer.
This is a baseball blog, after all.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I beg your pardon?
Im not of age. I drink Mountain Dew. Ask hazymania.
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Know. Your. Audience.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not about to sucumb to your evil ways
Don’t poison my mind, DON"T
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mountain Dew and froofy queer blended drinks with little umbrellas and maraschino cherries when your bartender friend hooks you up at Chilis. Right?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we had Mountain Dew at Chilis
And how did you know I work there? Stalker, or great memory?
by JoeCoolMan24 on Dec 11, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
memory. I was there when you and Hazy realized you knew one another (some time after/around game 163).
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm touched you remembered I was a bartender.
"would've been a sweep if pablo was here" -Kenwo-
by Hazymania on Dec 12, 2008 10:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't let something like age limits
ruin your fun.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
reading day?
i just finished my last final today.
"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM
by Illini0509 on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
undergrads don't start til tomorrow at earliest
mine don’t start til tuesday
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this is a crappy stove.
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
is that what you smoke your crystal meth out of?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
whambulance or splat?
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you whine a lot. you should probably limit it.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WU wines a lot, but nobody cuts him off
OH. wait. carry on.
I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.
by thatshortkid on Dec 11, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you spoke with a Sox roster occupier.
Might you have a scant bit of feedback regarding that incident?
You POS.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
laughing out in the open. HA!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
also, i think the indians are probably the best in the central at this point
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 12:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
On Bobby...
I love Bobby too but let’s face it, but you’re all missing the main point here: CLOSER is the most overrated position in all of sports. You’ve all read the analyses that has been done and the veredict is in: Saves are meaningless. Given that most baseball managers have not caught up to the math and still operate under the myth of the closer, Bobby has great value and is undoubtedly our best trading chip. I’m pretty confident that Dotel would have a similar save percentage in 09 to Bobby’s in 08. In fact, in situations of actual high leverage (as opposed to bogus save opportunity guidelines) Dotel far outperformed anyone on the team. He led the Sox in all of the following: BA w/RISP (0.165), BA w/ROB (0.183,), 1st Batter Effc. (0.177).
by Andronicus on Dec 11, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Titus?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Homer?
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD
YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUS!?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Macdougal, nobody wants to play with you
I thought this funny and felt like sharing.
‘Gerry Fraley notes that everyone passed on White Sox reliever Mike MacDougal.’
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Dec 11, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
PUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
His contract has an incentive for ‘slides to first’
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Dec 11, 2008 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or good facial reconstruction medical coverage in his insurance plan. I hope Paulie cleats the mother-fucker in the mug in 09.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe his OPS+
will hit 80 this year!
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Dec 11, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Klete Konerko! I like it.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He only played 99 games last year?
And he gets about double Uribe’s contract last year (2 years, not one, similar $).
Twins are racists. No, really, I mean it. Dark skin, get out. White skin, come on down! Yah hey, dere! You betcha!
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear
That Little Nicky is a locker room guy there and hence his pickup. Hopefully the Twins sign Carrot Top as a reliever this offseason.
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Dec 11, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JOE?
Way to go danks
bitch can’t throw more than 130 innings a season? Trade him. He has no balls
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 2, 2008 7:16 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 11, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You ever been to Minnesota?
There hasn’t been a minority in that state since Kirby Puckett….and they killed him.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so torii hunter was kind of like a minstrel show?
sit*
by U-God on Dec 11, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dave Winfield, Prince...
The list is end.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
denard "the greatest player ever" span.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow he slipped my mimd.
Carlos Gomez is somewhat pigmented. Perhaps they are reading the dversity manual.
Nah. They won’t be re-signed.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
gotta have a token.
that’s why delmon is on his way out.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
slipped through the cracks
Look what they did to Daunte Culpepper…they framed him on a hooker boat. Which is actually larry’s version of the “Love Boat” but we won’t go there.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Football doesn't count - Carl Eller, Alan Page, shoot, even Joe Kapp
was part Native American (the NFL had a hiring binge at QB then, what with Plunkett also NA), Chuck Foreman. Baseball is “pure” in MN. Mauer/Morneau will NEVER leave. NEVER.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You show your age again, WU.
Hitting the early 70’s Vikings and bringing up Jim Plunkett.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just sayin' they have integration history.
Oh, and Tarkenton is gay.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Prince is actually white
and Winfield was on loan.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Prince is white?
Black Dad qualifies him as “brother”. Winfield was born in St. Paul.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No such thing as
‘half white’, haven’t you heard?
Bloggin'
http://bierjournal.blogspot.com/
by Six Pack on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is he whiter than Obama?
Winfield was? Can’t be….
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
flagged.
failure to look at peripherals when evaluating ethnicity. what is this, 1998? billy beane was doing this shit ten years ago. didn’t you read “raceball”?
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
PA was good to you.
You are rolling today.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The amish women took care of larry
Now he is mentally and phyiscally refreshed to give out beatings. (well, mental beatings….he’d have to hit the gym pretty hard on the physical side).
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. because one really needs to be in great mental shape to deal with the einsteins on this site.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
STRETCH!
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
season over.
you can overcome punto only once.
How much is that Uribe in the window?
by thecip on Dec 11, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SOB
Ruined my lunch.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
twins re-sign FUCKING LITTLE NICKY PUNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Dec 11, 2008 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
SLOW FUCKING INTERNET CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brian anderson would've caught that...
by BuehrleMan on Dec 11, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sox rule 5 recap
lost derek rodriguez to rays in major league phase.
lost ricardo nanita to nationals; roberto valido to orioles; jason rice to red sox in AAA phase.
white sox passed throughout and lost no one in AA phase.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Zzzzzzzzzz.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you geezers lacked melatonin.
Wait…silly me….it’s nap time in FL!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we are like Europe.
Especially Greece, lately.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
now that they've found little caylee's body, you're going to have a lot of time to sleep in prison, you sick fuck.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll enjoy shooting the breeze with you, G-Rod.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not confirmed
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it was
a disgruntled, displaced, overly medicated, diaper wearing Floridian, disguised as a Sox fan who had something to do with this.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 11, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm comin' for you...
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
just like you came for caylee. you. sick. fuck.
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a modified Michael Jackson joke
about coming in little white cans here, but I can’t bespeak it.
i guess if you think a guy who is missing both testicles is healthy,
sure.
by winningugly on Dec 11, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Will you email it to me? Plzkthx.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Dec 11, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
New thread / Old news
http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/12/11/689737/white-sox-have-inside-trac
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Dec 11, 2008 1:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
poor derek rodriguez.
with no champion on the editorial board of this site, no one will ever know he existed…
by larry on Dec 11, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll post pictures of your shrine
email’s at the bottom of the page, kthx
Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.
by colintj on Dec 11, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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