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Aloha, Hawaii Winter Baseball
by Kevin Goldstein

Unfortunately, this time aloha means goodbye. I got some indication that this was coming during my time in Las Vegas, but today the hammer finally came down as the general managers voted to consolidate off-season leagues to Arizona, thus ending the three-year return of the Hawaiian League. …

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=1130

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yeah
… Still, the league filled a crucial gap in the winter league landscape, providing the opportunity of extra playing time for talents one notch below the AA/AAA level of the Arizona Fall League and the various Latin American circuits. The league even benefited from the new draft signing deadline, as numerous top picks who signed late (including Buster Posey and Yonder Alonso from this year’s class) were able to cut their teeth in the league.

Major League Baseball certainly saw value in such a league, but the logistics just proved to be too much to overcome. Expect an announcement in the coming days of a second, lower-level fall league in Arizona.

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe near glendale
However, many people feel an adjunct Arizona-based league is long overdue, one that will complement but not compete with the AFL.

The recent boom in Cactus League Spring Training complexes — notably the ’09 addition of a new two-team facility in Glendale (the new home of the White Sox and Dodgers) and only slightly more remote Goodyear (where the Indians will begin Spring Training this February, to be joined by the Reds in ’10) on what is known as the “West Side” of the Phoenix area — offers a perfect location for a four-club circuit to operate within.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081216&content_id=3719541&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep
One baseball official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the new league had yet to be formally announced, indicated last week that the junior circuit would be played in the spring training homes within the Cactus League framework.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1832

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh I read it again

warm? who knows

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

oh damn, Arizona qualifies

I thought Florida only

I must think a bit and not respond 1 second after reading something

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

or you could take one of your patented months-long absences to

think about your response…

;-)

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

look who's talking, sandy-v!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 10:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I pick July as the month that Chi loses it in '09.

Wiz is young – it’ll be August.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 10:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take the under on both of those.

My Mom and Dad went to Oklahoma, and all they brought back for me was this signature.

by rhythm on Dec 17, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

do I get a cut of the profits?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the over/under is a valuable thing

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 17, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was searching through Deadspin and found this

A Different Kind Of White Sox
http://deadspin.com/sports/chicago-white-sox/a-different-kind-of-white-sox-118688.php

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 16, 2008 9:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

it got better

if you followed the link in the article to the jesus panties

by LT_sox_fan on Dec 17, 2008 7:05 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Cheat, but I have no time to do recaps because I am too busy banging KenWo's sister...

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 17, 2008 7:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that would be some sweet CF action right thurr

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 12:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I still wouldn't count on him to be an everyday guy

and I’d probably have him getting 1/2 the starts against LHP at DH

but he would make me feel a whole lot better, by pushing the BA and the replacement-level lefties one notch lower. BA and Owens are palatable options when your talking about 300 ABs or so. At 600+ (in the case of Owens), not so much..

Why did Wise get a guaranteed contract again?

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 17, 2008 12:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i wish he was left handed

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 12:46 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because it's Dewayne!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get too

excited. “Channel-opathy” is not a specific disease. There are dozens if not hundreds of different ion channels in our body. If we include ion transporter proteins the list expands to many hundreds. As you can imagine Genetic mutations in different ion transport channels could have wide ranging effects. From embryonic lethal to asymptomatic. The good news may just be that this is not “progressive”. Meaning that it will not get worse, but won’t get better either. “Highly treatable” from a physician’s standpoint could just mean that we can prevent progression with treatment, as opposed to making you able to play 140 games at a world class athlete level with treatment.

The point is there is no way to know what the prognosis is in relation to whether treatment will improve his durability without knowing which ion channel is affected.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I love when you get all Star-Trecky...

And it’s about time you did some research!

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually this one

didn’t require any research! I already know that stuff.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 11:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you a Doctor? Perhaps a molecular biologist? Mr. Pointy-head.

If not, I will await dantesox’ feedback. As UG properly stated, he’s like a doctor.

;)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Actually I’m a physican and a researcher.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 11:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank God we don't have to read your handwriting,

Dr. Physican.

;)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I completely fit that sterotype. But who writes anything anymore?

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a Physi-can't.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh

now I see. Missed that one at first. Yeah, kinda embarassing to mispell your profession. I appreciate that really bad pun to soften the blow.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 12:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

(Puts down his Percocet. Picks up his Ritalin.)

(Gotta focus, Doc.)

Must be great to be able to write yourself ‘scripts. A member of my wife’s family went to the hoosegow for doing a Dr. Nick in the ’70’s.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You and the 70's again! Geesh.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not me - my in-law.

History may not repeat itself, but it sure rhymes, as they say.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

to my understanding, increasingly not doctors

a friend’s wife is one for kaiser permanente. all their shit’s electronical now. the doctor has your scans before you make it back to the exam room.

must save them oodles of dough after implementation.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 17, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Think they'll charge less?

(snickers.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i know you're joking, but their rates have pretty much stuck with inflation

outside of this past year, when they built a bunch of new buildings, but nothing astronomical. so there’s that.

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 17, 2008 12:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

Though the doctor’s fuck up enough that the pharmacists have to run from their basement dwellings to double check with them.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 17, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Physician. Oh. I thought you were a doctor.

Never mind.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 11:58 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what she said.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did she say "kiss me where it smells"?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, how did you know?

I said “you smell in two places…so where?”

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not sure cheat is getting "too excited"

he seems to be saying baldelli could get about 300 PAs. which sounded reasonable to me even before this revelation (or non-revelation, as the case may be) considering that’s the basic pace he was on when he came back last season. i don’t think this changes anything. expect him to be a 50% or so player and you’ll probably be happy with him.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 11:03 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well "crush"

usually implies excitement. But actually you’re making my exact point for me: This “diagnosis” has absolutely no bearing on our expectations for baldelli without more info. If you liked Baldelli before this, then you should like him equally now. Since Cheat seemed to indicate a higher level of interest based on this “diagnosis”, I was cautioning him about raised expectations. I actually agree with you guys about giving him an incentive laden contract with the idea of getting 300 ABs out of him. But his new “diagnosis” should have no impact on your enthusiasm for that.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 11:19 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

okay. maybe be a little more enthusiastic.

but i already thought there was upside to such a signing considering that, whatever ailment he had, more time dealing with it would mean it was far more likely that it would be figured out how to deal with it better. any management of a chronic disease should generally be expected to improve after the initial stage of treatment.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2008/12/baldelli-an-enc.html

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 11:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

completely with the statement “any management of a chronic disease should generally be expected to improve after the initial stage of treatment.”

I can say from experience that there are many instances of chronic diseases that don’t improve after the initial treatment. There are many more that do improve, but then worsen. Even in cases where therapy that has proven to be of benefit is administered, individual patients may not respond. In cases where their is no scientifically proven treatement (as in most rare diseases) response is even more uncertain.

Now time to make a more precise diagnosis could obviuosly be helpful depending on the diagnosis. Baldelli is obviously more optimistic about his prognosis. Without knowing the actual channel mutation I would not reccomend increased optimism.

larrys fortune cookie: you will learn much and have the advantage of not reading my pompous responses.

by bhoov on Dec 17, 2008 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That makes a lot of sense.

And, to be somewhat cynical, why wouldn’t he be more optimistic than warranted? He’s personally looking for hope, and professionally posturing to get the best contract possible.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Because attorneys admit clay feet so often.

An empty vessel clangs the loudest.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Privately, yes.

In front of the world, well, not really. Big malpractice premiums are there for a reason.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

malpractice generally has far more to do with neglect than strategy.

unless you consider not even bothering to do your job a strategy.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

give the guy a rec for pete's sake!

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why did Wise get a guaranteed contract again?

that’s the chicago white sox way (as kenny said)

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He still is physically fragile in other ways -

hammy pulls, tweaks, etc. seem to be common. Perhaps they are related to the overarching illness he has, but even if his mitochondia condition is treatable I’d still see him as a risky signing.

However, as always, if we can “steal” a year at $2MM, so be it.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 8:10 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone on here know if what he has could have been related to his injury prone ways previously, or would that seem like completely separate issues? I know it seems we have about 50 lawyers posting on here, but I don’t remember hearing about any doctors.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 17, 2008 8:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

mitochondria are the powerhouses of cells

SCIENCE RULES!

How much is that Uribe in the window?

by thecip on Dec 17, 2008 9:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 9:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

word

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good God that is glorious biology

I have to take biochem next semester, I am doomed.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 17, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i feel ya

i’m in it this spring as well

sit*

by U-God on Dec 17, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Your cat eats eukaryotic cells!

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 17, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe I was mistaken, but I thought hoodie's comment was a sly joke

My Mom and Dad went to Oklahoma, and all they brought back for me was this signature.

by rhythm on Dec 19, 2008 3:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That could be fun

Baldelli starting games, Anderson coming in as his defensive replacement in the later innings. Probably just a pipe dream, but sure seems like it would work out.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 17, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

welcome to the bandwagon.

unfortunately, those who decide to get on two months late have to ride in the trunk.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with the dead hookers

brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight

by whitesoxmatt on Dec 17, 2008 9:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i front paged the larry plan.

i hoped on that wagon a while back, son.

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 6:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

semesters ending

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 7:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like how the first question is "why is he at the cleveland clinic?"

this rj guy is quite the dunce sometimes. i dunno, rj, could it be that it’s one of the best hospitals in the country, especially in the area that baldelli is having trouble?

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i like his attack on a poster further down
What puzzles me is this, if you

Know that we know you’re sternfan1, why you would make dumb comments like this.

sit*

by U-God on Dec 17, 2008 9:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Other questions:

1. Was the first moon landing staged in a warehouse in New Mexico?
2. Was it the Mafia that killed Kennedy?
3. Which 7 people run the world’s wealth?
4. Why is the government manipulating the price of gold?
5. How did Bush and his Saudi friends manipulate the price of oil? (Oops, next question.)
6. How much did Dick Cheney make from the Halliburton contracts granted in Iraq?
7. Why did Pete Fizgerald move so fast to go public with G-Rod’s transgressions rather than wait for actual crimes to take place?
8. Why has Obama never produced his birth certificate?

OK, I’m out of conspiracies right now.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 9:59 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Roswell!

How much is that Uribe in the window?

by thecip on Dec 17, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Patrick, not Peter. Peter selected Patrick for the post.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't keep the Micks straight.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

like colin

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 11:43 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

I’m like colin?

(Checks to see if fists are visible. They are.)

No, I’m not!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

No.

 Can’t keep the Micks straight.

Colin: Irish name.

Colin: Straight? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that!)

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 12:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah HA.

(Hate picking on the boy whilst he slumbers.)

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And I hope when he wakes that he knows we really don't care.

To each his own.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot no. 9

9. why won’t colin publish his getz interview on this blog?

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's better than you because he writes at that sabr-blog that knows everything about baseball

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 17, 2008 4:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I would love this

Baldelli = Red Ryder BB Gun with a mitochondrial disease

How much is that Uribe in the window?

by thecip on Dec 17, 2008 9:21 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Even if the Dodgers miss out on Rafael Furcal, their Plan B is Orlando Cabrera. The A’s, Royals, and Blue Jays have not expressed interest in Wilson. Kovacevic says the Blue Jays are definitely not interested. You may recall that J.P. Ricciardi went out of his way to deny interest in Wilson in July of last year.

here

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 12:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

well after cabrera, who would that be?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 12:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

I haven’t seen the official numbers… but they’re screwy and Juan Cruz (just to throw out a name) could be ranked higher

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 17, 2008 12:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Peter Gammons on ESPN really was clarifying last night.

Said Tex was going to either the Angels or the BoSux, with the Yankess only attempting to drive up the price.

HOF, that guy.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So, how are the eateries in the Glendale area?

Where is the best place to get dinner and dancing? Perhaps see a show? How affordable is it? What’s the service like? Decor? Attire required?

Tune in next week for the SSS version of “Travel Channel”, right here on SB Nation!

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 8:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Attire required?

Yes

"I am not going out like SSH. "
by WTGTD, 12/3/08

by ballyb on Dec 17, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

good eye.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 11:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I left that in on porpoise.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Surrrrre ya did.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

On my daughter's eyes I did.

I wanted to see who the wiseacre would be. I figured it would be an old guy.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone watch the Bulls last night?

Great game, Joakim looks like a scared 12 year old at a Boys Club game everytime he touches the ball.

by 815Sox on Dec 17, 2008 8:20 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

That nose has tasted blowzinski.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 8:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

tyrus is coming alive!!

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Dec 17, 2008 4:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He did

Rose had a pretty bad game, tons of rookie mistakes (but that is to be expected)

by 815Sox on Dec 17, 2008 8:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rose is bad at defense

I wouldn’t say Augustin “schooled” him, he hit some 3s that Rose just inexplicably left him open for.

Conversely, Rose would have matched him had Vinny Del Negro decided to, you know, call set plays instead of having Gooden set the weakest screens possible so that they could just double Rose. Stupid shitbag Jerry Reinsdorf loving the Sox more than the Bulls and refusing to pay more money for a real coach.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 17, 2008 4:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

please, please, please ned
Cabrera is said to be the Dodgers’ Plan B, though he carries an even steeper price for them. The Dodgers have the #17 pick next year, the first unprotected pick. The White Sox would be thrilled to get it, and Cabrera’s Elias number is higher than that of any other Type A free agent the Dodgers could plausibly sign. So if the Dodgers sign Cabrera and, say, Oliver Perez, the White Sox still get the #17 pick.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/orlando-cabre-1.html

sit*

by U-God on Dec 17, 2008 9:05 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

creds

Is anyone else surprised that Crede is not signed by anyone yet. I wonder if he is asking for a longer and pricier contract than the teams are willing to give (I am sure he is)… It is amazing that the guy with suck skill is not that highly sought after player. I guess his back is worrying the heck out of everyone, but still…

by LT_sox_fan on Dec 17, 2008 9:08 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

he had surgery again and supposedly won't start baseball activity until mid january.

i wouldn’t expect to see him signed before then. the free agent market has been slow to start with, he’s at least a second tier free agent, and he’s got serious questions surrounding his health. can’t say it’s that surprising he hasn’t signed.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 9:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't find any that have . . .

Ramirez, Varitek, Texeira, G. Anderson, Bloomquist, Cora, Crede, Gagne, Lowe, Perez, IRod, Tavarez, Villone, Wilkerson . . . none have signed. Maybe I am missing someone?

Regardless, clearly his health is the key driver in why he hasn’t signed . . . Boras being his agent has the same level or ‘sticking point’ as the issue you mention of ‘second tier FA’ (some of those have signed too, so I doubt that is a sticking point).

by jc2313 on Dec 17, 2008 10:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

eyes rolling.

yeah, i’m not into sharing information. good one.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not in this manner . . .

linking to breaking news, good articles and stuff like that . . . yes, you are on top of that better than anyone here. On stuff like this you tend to take the ‘find it yourself’ approach or use a smart ass comment about google . . . hence the reason I was hesitant to even ask.

by jc2313 on Dec 17, 2008 11:51 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This lists all his clients, with FA's in bold.

I don’t care enough to research who has signed or not:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/10/scott-boras-cli.html

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks, that is the

list I had, just not aware of anyone on it signing.

by jc2313 on Dec 17, 2008 11:53 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

his health is the key here

the reason why he is a second tier free agent is because he hasn’t been playing healthy in a long time now. If back issues were not there I say he would be one of the top free agents this offseason.

not sure about his suck skills, we need to ask Rowand about that…

by LT_sox_fan on Dec 17, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aryan Nation!

wow. I’m glad Wal-Mart helped this family out.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We need the human herd thinned out a bit, don't you think?

The fact that another generation will have genetic material from these idiots is sad.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ironic that eugenics

might/could/should be the solution for people naming their kid Hitler.

by onthemark12 on Dec 17, 2008 10:15 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ha! just appropriate, really.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

His parents made up for it by buying him a pet

They named it Joseph Gerbils.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Dec 17, 2008 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

That was so 6th-grade I LOL'ed, Jim.

Rec’d.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ya know, with the Hitler/Cubs vid yesterday, this today, and numerous

Hoodie’s along the way, I’m wondering if Cheat should drop one of the S’s from SSS?

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, the irony.

Rec’d.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Raul got more than expected!

hellooooo, Phillies.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 10:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Must not be watching the Maxim Hot 100 on VH1:

"And as a professional, I can’t remember the last time I watched something on television and got goose bumps.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

true dat

what a looser

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or been with larry last night at the "Club"

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You know your Tuesday nights.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sucked last night

apparently none of the girls couldn’t make it in due to the “blizzard” we got, so the only dancer that was there was Martha, and she is 4-mos. pregnant.

larry didn’t show either.

I was their only customer, so I dropped some big $$ on Martha and also, since the cocktail waitress wouldn’t leave me alone, I drank 3 bottles of Jameson. I just got home. I do this all for the love of baseball.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But did you watch the World Series?

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 12:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't think they televised it?

I was too busy with my offseason conditioning.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, baseball's offseason has been really boring.

I find the Sox’ participation fascinating. Under-the-radar? Not a chance – we have been the only spice out there.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay Baseball's offseason has been boring

I was also bored at work when I made that comment, so sue me (no don’t actually)

by 815Sox on Dec 17, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it has been boring. My neighborhood buddy (only Sox fan in Orlando, I believe,

besides me) sends this:

Our Sox have been quiet, I think they may try and move either Dye or Konerko, we need more speed.

Wish I could shoot him.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I recommend a cheap bottle of scotch, some ritz crackers,

a lightly dimmed room with just a Ron Kittle signature “bat bench”, a copy of Ron Kittle’s “Tales from the White Sox Dugout”, and on the CD player at a very low volume level “Gold: Abba’s Greatest Hits” – repeat track 12 “Fernando”.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you going WU on us and trying to get everyone to commit suicide to "thin out the herd"?

My Mom and Dad went to Oklahoma, and all they brought back for me was this signature.

by rhythm on Dec 17, 2008 2:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just passing the time....

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Turning Japanese again, are you?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I really think so

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I like "Fernando".

And Kitty, well, he’s my main fantasy camp guy. So it sounds effin’ great to me.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why this doesn't surprise me.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why did Wise get a guaranteed contract again?

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/will-span-continue-to-spark-the-twins/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

damn clipboard

title should be “Will Span Continue to Spark the Twins?”

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Does this sound like our larry?

larry says:
December 17, 2008 at 10:42 am
jason, if you have a subscription to bill james’ website, matthew namee has done some work in this area. obviously, one constraint is that it’s not necessarily publicly known who has had the surgery and it seems like it’s inherently a small sample size at this point. however, the tentative conclusion was sort of counterintuitive. It wasn’t plate discipline that improved, but slugging (isolated power).

http://www.billjamesonline.net/ArticleContent.aspx?AID=843

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 1:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ha. it certainly do.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

of course not.

if that were me, i would have taken the ‘find it yourself’ approach or use a smart ass comment about google.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

this is true, this is true.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone is using your handle, then.

Small “l” and all. Plus, “small sample size” is something you’ve copywritten, non?

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm thinking of a sound.

starts with w. ends with h.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

haha

number one when it mattered!

by hoodlight on Dec 17, 2008 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

But… But… He’s Really… Fast

http://www.baseballdigestdaily.com/blogs/2008/12/17/but-but-hes-really-fast/

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

DEAR ABBY: My wife, “HSAstepmom,” and I are retired. She attends social meetings about four times a month. Food is served at these meetings, and she usually brings part of the meal home. Then she announces that the food is ""hers"" and that I shouldn’t eat any.

Abby, her “take-home” will stay in the refrigerator for a day or so, and I have to see it every time I open the door. It often looks delicious — not the kind of thing we usually have for meals at home. HSAstepmom will then eat it in front of me, and it kills me that she won’t share.

I have tried telling my wife that she should share her food, but it throws her into a rage. She claims the food is hers because it was part of a meal she didn’t finish and brought home to eat.

I’d like your opinion because I consider this cruel. Who’s right? — Chiburb in the Suburbs

DEAR Chiburb: You are, and I can see how your wife’s behavior is hard to swallow. Her actions are not only selfish but also intimidating. People who won’t share food are usually selfish about other things as well.

Allow me to share a bit of advice: On the nights when your wife is socializing, make some plans with some of your women friends. Because you’re not getting your treats at home, get them elsewhere.

by larry on Dec 17, 2008 1:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Chiburb sounds like a puss?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 1:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The treats are just desserts

and I get them from HER women friends.

Lots of widows here in the home.

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 1:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen to that!

larry, you would act as a great “Abby”. We could write you with our problems and you could write back in some degrading tone and then tell us to go f’ ourselves. HA!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 1:42 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we are chicago tough and don't have any problems

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Chiburb had problems with getting treats from his woman

and I have a neighbor that is too hot for the neighborhood and I don’t know what to do.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 1:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I bet the wife's behavior is not the only thing "hard to swallow"

in Chiburb’s house.

I would rather douse a newspaper in gasoline, wrap it around my penis and light it on fire then relive that experience
by armedpp on Aug 29, 2007 2:36 AM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 17, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

because he's a sox fan?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 17, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Dad! I had no idea HSAstepmom did this!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and you wonder why I drink

""I’m for the dreamers. The only really important things in history have been started by the dreamers. They never know what can’t be done.""
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ned is gonna screw it up
11:48am: Yahoo’s Tim Brown: Furcal is “nearing an agreement with the Dodgers.” Joel Sherman learned from Kinzer that the Dodgers are in the lead, having matched the Braves’ three-year, $30MM (plus a fourth-year vesting option) offer. Paul Kinzer told Sherman the idea of switching to second base for the Braves gave Furcal pause.

Kinzer told Danny Knobler there was never a verbal agreement with the Braves. Kinzer lives in Atlanta and received 50 phone calls from fans after the story broke yesterday.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/rafael-furcal-4.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 1:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Los Angeles Dodgers and Chicago White Sox players were supposed to get a first look at the place they will call their spring home in two months, but rain kept them away Wednesday.

It was an ironic predicament that is billed as almost never being a problem in Arizona during Cactus League season.

Dodgers outfielder Andre Ethier, White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko and pitcher Matt Thornton were to tour the clubhouse and other amenities Glendale’s new complex has to offer.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/17/20081217gl-ballbark1217-ON.html

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 17, 2008 3:19 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

at least they have the sonics...

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 17, 2008 4:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we need to put seattle on extra special suicide watch

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

more than usual?

we’ve already removed everybody’s belts and shoelaces…

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 17, 2008 9:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They were all high

and picked the wrong option on accident

by 815Sox on Dec 17, 2008 7:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Furcal Chooses Dodgers (dammit)
4:47pm: The latest from Rosenthal:

The Dodgers and Furcal were still hammering out an agreement Wednesday afternoon, sources said, but the Braves had been informed that Furcal would not accept their deal.

4:10pm: Ken Rosenthal says Furcal decided to sign with the Dodgers.

Mark Bowman’s latest doesn’t suggest Furcal made a decision, but he does explain why the Braves thought they had a deal. Bowman’s source believes the Dodgers offered three years plus a fourth-year player option.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/rafael-furcal-4.html

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 4:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

who else needs a SS, damnit?

Sober, I was appalled at the women. Drunk I was told I danced with them all.

by colintj on Dec 17, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin McHale Has Isolated Reason For T-Wolves Suckitude
"There’s just so many bloggers; everybody’s got an opinion. There’s all kinds of stuff going on. Sometimes that starts forming the opinion of people in front offices, too, and owner. It’s been kind of a crazy year so far."

http://deadspin.com/5112669/mchale-has-isolated-reason-for-t+wolves-suckitude

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 17, 2008 5:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Kev it's the internet

Not how you fucked the franchise over by illegally trying to sign Joe Smith costing 4 1st round picks, and waiting till the last possible minute to trade Kevin Garnett when you could have gotten something much better a few years before. Oh, trading Sam Cassell and a 1st round for Marko Jaric was also amazing.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

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