The Latest Vazquez Rumors

Still don't know all the players in the proposed Vazquez deal, but we need a new thread.

As of right now, the latest info has the Sox receiving a package of 4 prospects picked from a list of 5. Best guess at their names appears to be Brent Lillibridge (for sure) Tyler Flowers (almost positive), Jon Gilmore (until we hear different) and Santos Rodriguez (I think).

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Of course, Rotoworld has to be the one site to put a negative spin on it for the Sox.

The AJC’s Dave O’Brien reports that the White Sox will get Tyler Flowers, Brent Lillibridge, Jon Gilmore and Santos Rodriguez from the Braves for Javier Vazquez and Boone Logan.
Incredibly, the White Sox won’t be getting back any advanced pitching in the deal, though Rodriguez does have a live arm. Flowers is a significant talent and Lillibridge is probably better than he showed last season, but this still looks like a nice deal for Atlanta

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Still have Dye to trade.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no, you fuck

how do you explain Owens in right field?

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hes fast.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

owens in center, fields in left, q in right, betemit at third

duh

sit*

by U-God on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We're signing Abreu, too.

Gotta keep up, DB.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

my fault cuz

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

checked out the braves SB Nation site

they all seem to be ok with the deal. most dont like giving up flowers, but realize what the price is for a #3 starter

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 2, 2008 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You trade one prospect in a team's top ten for anything

and you’re going to get a group of Debbie Downers.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ill never forget

the outrage on this site last year when we traded for swisher.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ill never remember

i had no clue this site existed

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

there was lots of gnashing of teeth and rending of garments

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 2, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I was pissed too

But I would have killed a bitch had I known things would turn out the way they did. Luckily, that shock was spread over the course of 8 months, festering itself deep inside me so that I can add it to the giant cheese ball of depression and lost hope that grows on my cerebellum.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Is this Homer Simpson?

Cheese balls – mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

a huge portion of the conversations prior

to that trade were about how horrible our farm system were and how we should have been rebuilding… then that happened and all hell broke lose.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

hope they haven't caught us tapdancing on javy's grave

I don’t want my beer to taste like fruit or honey. I want pussy to taste that way.

by thatshortkid on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Flowers

Is Flowers highly regarded? The one article I saw said he was undrafted.

by Corsair553 on Dec 2, 2008 8:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

your article is false

sit*

by U-God on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

er, flawed

sit*

by U-God on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Fucked.

Alliteration is cool.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he was drafted in the nfl...undrafted in the bigs....braves signed him out of nowhere

now we’re getting him for vazquez, and sending him directly to the bears to play qb

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

seems like more of a d-lineman to me

sidenote, got ogunleye’s autograph today

sit*

by U-God on Dec 2, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'd throw his ass at safety...have some wr running a crossing pattern....and get knocked the fuck out

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, the Vikes suspended him today for banned supplements

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

From My Dead New Thread:

“Also: we’ve got 1 hour until the site goes down for 2. That will be fun. Most among us have already mentioned that they’re neglecting something important in their actual lives to track this development. And if you missed it, there’s a ton of good stuff in Cheat’s Javy Post not to mention the comments. Wading through 500+ comments would be daunting for the more well-rounded fanbases elsewhere. That’s where real life-crippling obsession comes in, baby!”

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

and how

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We now desperately need a starting pitcher.

Sheets? Johnson(only a type b). Gotta have someone like it.

by dantesox on Dec 2, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

let's get nick magic back

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

we don't need to

We’ve got the Marqzman

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

dante

you just rattled off the two pitchers you’d be incredibly fortunate to get 200 innings out of next year, find someone a little more reliable

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Dec 2, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

brandon mccarthy

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

isn't one incredibly fortunate to get 200 innings out of any pitcher?

30 guys did it last year.

JERRY OWENS

by larry on Dec 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you are the king of the universe of using hyperbole

regardless, KW doesn’t use scrubs and generally high-risk pitchers in 3/5 of the rotation, so we’re good.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts on our potential return for Hobby, larry?

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

none. waste of time before the pieces are known.

JERRY OWENS

by larry on Dec 2, 2008 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

well exthuse me genrul

didn’t know you were such a stickler for concrete evidence. you should be a lawyer or something. too bad you’re just a loser like all of us /snort

don’t tell me your loins aren’t pushed to the brim here, ready to explode at the sight of any official announcement

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jon Gilmore?

Wasn’t he a tight end with the Bears last year?

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Dec 2, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Used to be a center with the Bulls a long time ago.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wasnt that Artis

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Dec 2, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It was a joke.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i figured, just wanted to make sure

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Dec 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I did a google image search of Tyler Flowers, and this is what I got

He’s heavy all right, but he looks like an athlete nonetheless

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

that baby has jaundice!

sit*

by U-God on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And a Caucasian pacifier.

Already he’s got an excuse to be on the couch in 20 years.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like a solidly built catcher

but no Cubs fans. Pass.

by jackie hayes on Dec 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So that's probably

Flowers – B/B+
Lillibridge – C+
Gilmore – C-
Rodriguez – C-

or so?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

don't forget your efforts tonight

Colin-A+++

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You have 15 minutes to get a room, you two.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Well deserving of a slap on the ass.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Or you 3.

For some reason I feel like having a Cuban sandwich.

by winningugly on Dec 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure, but I think it is pronounced menage a trois.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

so are you less enthused that we don't have morton in the package?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

just because players that young have very high attrition rates and are therefore unlikely to ever contribute. someone who’s got a major league arm fits in somewhere.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

using my own ranking

Flowers — Top Prospect w/ Elite Prospect potential if he sticks behind plate and continues development at AA and above.
Gilmore ~~- Plain Ol’ Prospect -~~ Former first rounder, young for league. Hasn’t shown too much.
Lillibridge — Suspect — Poor contact skills and declining plate discipline fortell short stay in majors before career toiling in minors.
Rodriguez — Suspect — Good numbers as league repeater. Bullpen arm, hasn’t reached A-ball yet.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

there wasn't supposed to be a strikethru there

damn you formatting, You win this round.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i was gonna say...huh?

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I snaked the first two ratings from Sickels. Should have mentioned that.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

From the AJC dude who's blogging this:

By David O’Brien

December 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Flowers just called me, confirmed he’s in the deal, pending physicals.

So that bodes well.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i think i still wanna see morton or reyes in this deal

Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.

by Jbasic89 on Dec 2, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and do you still want to discuss BA vs JO?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what?

im all for BA in that one buddy

Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.

by Jbasic89 on Dec 2, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i'm just saying that the deal 'seems' pretty much done

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

me too.

but it really doesn’t make a ton of sense from the Braves’ perspective to be giving up major league ready arms. it’s basically Flowers and depth pickups, adding some percentage points at starter and 3B. an advanced arm would be nice in addition.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

percentage points at SS too.

it sounds like Lillibridge seriously screwed up his own swing. if he’s got, say, a 10% chance of getting back on track, that helps infield depth either way.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they're major league ready

in the sense that they’re available to get pounded like pamela anderson’s gooch in the majors. pass

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Stop posting irrelevant links. Do you think Flowers is part of the deal?

Step it up, buddy. Thin ice. Look at me. Thin.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 2, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

jerry owens

takes some real stones for the one certifiable cocksucker on here to jump into this convo.-mm

by furby2056 on Dec 2, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

good point

does this deal affect jerry owens in any way?

Thank you,
these bumblefucks think the Sox are going to trade Dye. I said I would cancel my membership on here in martyrdom of Dye being traded.

by Jbasic89 on Dec 2, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Does it raise his reward?

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thats REWARD

"KenWO
no point in arguing with people who are blinded from reality..."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 29, 2008 6:49 PM

by Illini0509 on Dec 2, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

making plans for when we go down....

I think I’m gonna make a cover-it-live post

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

that's a really good idea.

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

mod plz

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

gimme some time

I gotta sign up and shiz

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sheeit.

also, we need a site to host on, non?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

kinda

I just posted a note not to refresh

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 9:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what does that mean?

why not just swamp jim’s site?

by onlysoxfaninboston on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he has a site?

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

who's jim?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 9:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Bulls game is becoming enjoyable.

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

WGN by any chance?

nothing gets ‘em wetter than infrequent postings on the city’s second favorite team

by colintj on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

WCIU

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

why is kenny holding onto jose?

what a moron

The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.

by The Wizard on Dec 2, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hes dead weight!

Trade him!

I don't need to look at fancy stats

to see if a guy is good or not. You might have to.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM CST

by omnipotent grab on Dec 2, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

his numbers are as good as Fields

that is the sad part

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Dec 2, 2008 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Isn't this played out by now?

Sheesh…go to Las Vegas for a few days and I come back to find this starting up again. Although, I do have to say that sentence is applicable in any number of situations. Maybe I’ll copyright….

by hitlesswonder on Dec 2, 2008 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs