The 5 things I'm looking forward to this spring training
March 3rd
As far as I'm concerned, the March 3rd broadcast against the Royals on CSN is the official start of spring training. I've grown so spoiled by Comcast's coverage of the spring games that the only real excitement I feel prior to being able to see some game action, no matter how poor the play may be, is searching the internet for pictures of game action; and if I get really desperate (as I am now) it's pictures of practice, not even full-squad practice. Man, I am jonesing for some real live baseball.I suppose it's a bit ironic that spring training doesn't start for me until I can actually see it in action. I mean I write about the White Sox, yet reading about bullpen sessions and towel drills just doesn't do it for me. So while pitchers and catcher reporting, the first full-squad practice, or the first spring game prompts countdown clocks on other sites, I've got March 3rd circled on my calendar.
Alexei Ramirez
Within hours of receiving word that he had filed for residency in the Dominican Republic, I was wondering what it would take to get Alexei Ramirez on the south side, and if we wanted him at all. Six months later, we know how much it took to get him in black, but that's about it. What we knew about Ramirez back then, just hours after learning his name, is essentially all that we know about him now. He's added 14 lackluster at-bats in the Dominican Winter League, but that's hardly enough to form an opinion.Ramirez could burst on the scene and emerge as the starting second baseman, or even the starting center fielder, respectively rendering the Cunningham and Carer trades unneeded. He could be a valuable super-utility guy, allowing the Sox trim almost $10M off the roster in the form of Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, and the soon-to-be completely useless Pablo Ozuna. He could show lots of promise, but still need some seasoning in the minors to work on some thing, or he could be a washout who pulled himself from the DWL for fear that more at-bats would expose him as a career minor leaguer.
I think Ramirez is more like to fall into one of the latter categories, but the complete unknown, the possibility for anything is not something you often see in spring training. Ramirez is easily the player I'm most eager to see in action.
John Danks and Gavin Floyd better be ready in spring training. Broadway and Egbert are right there, pushing them for a rotation spot.The 6th Starter Battle
When Lance Broadway took the mound for his first major league start, I was more concerned about watching the latest episode of The Office than watching the Sox march their way to a higher (lower?) draft pick. After reading some positive initial reports in the gamethread, however, I made sure to watch the replay on Comcast. Broadway doesn't have stuff that will blow you away, and his numbers from Charlotte last season don't inspire much confidence, but the September addition of a cutter, and his improved peripherals in the second half are enough to swing me back into the viable 5th starter camp.Jack Egbert went from me calling him an organizational player in 2006 to underrated top-10 prospect by the end of that season to no-longer underrated top prospect this season. Like Broadway, he's not going to dazzle you with his stuff, but he should have enough to get hitters out, with a plus sinker that can occasionally climb above 90, a plus changeup, and a bit of hitch in his delivery. ZiPS and PECOTA project him to be the Sox 3rd or 4th best starting pitcher, even though he figures to spend the year in Charlotte.
Nick Massett says he's in camp to earn a spot in the White Sox starting 5. We're amused. Prove us wrong, Nick. Prove us wrong.
I don't expect any of these players to make the club, but between Egbert and Broadway, I think the Sox have a pitcher who should pitch well enough to allow Ozzie and Kenny to have a quick leash should any of the back-end starters falter in April. Add in the overconfident Masset and the always unpredictable knuckleballer Charlie Haeger, and you've got enough candidates to almost expect a surprise breakout. I know I am.
Carlos Quentin
In his community projection thread -- polls open until mid-day Wednesday. Log your projection here -- I opined that as go Carlos Quentin, so go the White Sox. If Quentin is able to become a plus-defensive doubles machine with an above average OBP, the White Sox offense will take a huge leap forward. In the last two seasons, the Sox have had just one outfielder-season of both above-average OBP and and average slugging. Nick Swisher should easily fill this category, and Jermaine Dye will provide slugging if not OBP. Should Quentin show the promise that made him a top 25 prospect, the Sox will have their most potent offensive outfield in years, perhaps ever.The Joe Crede trade
There hasn't been a more telegraphed trade during Kenny Williams' tenure as White Sox GM. We all know it's going to happen. Joe Crede knows it's going to happen. The San Francisco Giants know it's going to happen. As long as Joe Crede demonstrates the ability to make it through the first two weeks of spring training, he's going to be shipped out to the highest bidder, presumably San Francisco.I've never really been someone who likes to spend too much time speculating about possible trades. Too many of them have such little chance of happening that it's almost fruitless to speculate. And that's what makes the Crede trade fun. We know it's gonna happen, and we pretty much know where he's headed. Now we can speculate willy-nilly about possible return.
The only thing more fun (for me) than speculating about a would-be trade is writing about one that actually happened. For that reason, and that reason alone, I can't wait for Crede to finally be dealt. It's not every spring training that you get to write about a significant player being traded.
How about you?
What are you looking forward to this spring? Did I miss something? Anyone taking a trip to Tucson?
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Crede trade
by boyonthedock on Feb 19, 2008 3:12 AM CST 0 recs
Gavin Floyd
by The Deacon on Feb 19, 2008 7:18 AM CST 0 recs
Ozzie on Floyd
we heard this when they acquired Floyd after scouting him in the AFL, but can he actually take the step from being a good AAA starter to a big leaguer?
by The Deacon on
Feb 19, 2008 8:05 AM CST
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Gavin.... an ace?
I just don't see it. I mean, I didn't see it last year. A 1-2 starter has to be able to at times, dominate a lineup. Not every start, but just once in a while. Floyd seems to me to be like Haeger, Russel, Masset, et al... a back of rotation/long man. A league-average to just better than league-average innings eater. That has value, of course, but the club only needs one, maybe two of those guys... not 4, 5.
I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I wouldn't bet on it.
by Shoeless In SC on
Feb 19, 2008 9:44 AM CST
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ozzie said he had the stuff to be an ace
by larry on
Feb 19, 2008 9:52 AM CST
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Floyd
Could just be something as simple as he isn't confident enough in his pitches and he is aiming, or just fear, whatever it may be.
The guy does have the pitches, just don't know if he will ever have the make up of a guy who can shut down teams regularly.
by Grinder in Training on
Feb 19, 2008 10:43 AM CST
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out of options?
by ruffster on
Feb 19, 2008 10:40 AM CST
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I think you rounded all the bases, Cheat
by Shoeless In SC on Feb 19, 2008 9:45 AM CST 0 recs
I'm leaving on Saturday for Tucson...
by Tony82087 on Feb 19, 2008 10:33 AM CST 0 recs
We're in the homestretch Cheat...
by Hazymania on Feb 19, 2008 10:35 AM CST 0 recs
I'll be in Tucson
Also, I'm excited about Floyd. I think he's got impressive stuff, and if he puts it all together, he'll be a mid-rotation guy. I may be wrong, of course, but here's to hoping.
by HulkSmash on Feb 19, 2008 10:37 AM CST 0 recs
Add another one to the list
by Sox Machine on
Feb 19, 2008 10:50 AM CST
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Jim
by Tony82087 on
Feb 19, 2008 10:54 AM CST
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Actually
I have been to a B game, which aren't scheduled until later, sometimes during the season. It's good to ask employees of the stadium if they know of any, because they're not always announced in advance.
by Sox Machine on
Feb 19, 2008 2:51 PM CST
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sickels' all questions answered thread
http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2008/2/19/12491/7270#commenttop
by larry on Feb 19, 2008 11:58 AM CST 0 recs
sickels' quentin projection
by larry on
Feb 19, 2008 1:53 PM CST
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Marrioti
Wow. How is this guy still employed in Chicago??
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/800843,mariotti021908.article
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 19, 2008 1:08 PM CST 0 recs
Who, Ozzie?
by Chiburb on
Feb 19, 2008 1:12 PM CST
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Oh btw...
by Chiburb on
Feb 19, 2008 1:13 PM CST
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Pot, Kettle, Black???
Wow Jay
by Tony82087 on
Feb 19, 2008 1:15 PM CST
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I know Jay
So, do you think Jay is even allowed in the press box after this one? He called out the whole organization - Jerry, Kenny and Ozzie.
by BobbySouthSide on
Feb 19, 2008 1:21 PM CST
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Press box?
I don't even bother glancing at the headlines. This is every column:
(flapping wings wildly)
SQUAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWK! SQUAWK! SQUAWWWWWK!
Repeat for 20 inches or so.
by Sox Machine on
Feb 19, 2008 2:56 PM CST
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Well said
by hitlesswonder on
Feb 19, 2008 4:00 PM CST
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Well....
by BoKnows on
Feb 19, 2008 1:26 PM CST
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Classic take on Jay
by onlysoxfaninboston on
Feb 19, 2008 1:27 PM CST
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Wonderful.
by ballyb on
Feb 19, 2008 7:13 PM CST
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hahaha!
by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2008 1:36 PM CST 0 recs
HA!
by BobbySouthSide on
Feb 19, 2008 1:45 PM CST
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Crede
Joe, we'll always have 2005...
by mdmnd9294 on Feb 19, 2008 2:33 PM CST 0 recs
starting rotation
by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2008 3:02 PM CST 0 recs
How have Buehrle's opening day numbers been?
by omnipotent grab on
Feb 19, 2008 3:12 PM CST
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MB on OD
Overall numbers:
5 starts (1 rain-shortened)
31 2/3 IP
22 H
8 ER
8 BB
13 K
2.27 ERA.
Team went 3-2 (including the '06 rain game).
by Toonderstrook on
Feb 19, 2008 3:43 PM CST
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Wow
Nice stats, T. You fast, baby.
by winningugly on
Feb 19, 2008 3:50 PM CST
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I bet Ozzie goes with his gut again
by omnipotent grab on
Feb 19, 2008 3:50 PM CST
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I Believe
by oldComiskey91 on
Feb 19, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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Spring training mysteries
I'll be interested in seeing if any of the young pitchers look decent in AZ. I guess Floyd and Masset in particular. I've been a firm doubter in both, but the positive Floyd PR is starting to get to me. The Sox really need someone not MB or JV to deliver a sub-5 ERA as a starter.
As for Masset, I'm curious how the battle between him and Wasserman plays out. That's right -- I'm interested in who the last man in the pen will be. The season needs to get here soon....
by hitlesswonder on Feb 19, 2008 3:53 PM CST 0 recs
Report from Tucson
Other than that, anything I should look out for over the next few days until reinforcements get here?
by swsox on Feb 19, 2008 5:13 PM CST 0 recs
Floyd's mechanics and arsenal
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Feb 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST
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swisher to stay at center
"It's not easy to move everywhere, especially if you're going to play every day," Guillen said. "Like I always say, you're not going to bring a Gold Glove center fielder. But he played center field before. He played center field for the Oakland A's, so why couldn't he play for us.
"To me, it's harder to play center field in Oakland than to play in Chicago. In Chicago, a ball hit over your head is a home run. In Oakland, you've got to go get it. He did a good job there and I have a lot of confidence in him."
by The Wizard on Feb 19, 2008 6:05 PM CST 0 recs
So...
by SSH2005 on
Feb 19, 2008 6:16 PM CST
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Huh?????????????????????
by ballyb on
Feb 19, 2008 6:25 PM CST
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It's imperative that LF
by hitlesswonder on
Feb 19, 2008 7:02 PM CST
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managers who think like that are...
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Feb 19, 2008 9:44 PM CST
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