It's Spring Training for us too

by The Cheat on Feb 26, 2008 11:24 PM CST in News Comment 58 comments

Watch! Because you might have forgotten what the players look like.

***** In other news, (wizard)

John Sickels looks on the 2008 Draft: "It looks like a pretty deep class."
Aren't those graphs sweet?
Jim Bowden's ride.
Looking for relievers that conform to the Kevin Towers theory? (hat-tip baseball musings)
David Pinto looks at why it's a good idea to bat the pitcher eighth.

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Great...HGH claims another victim...

"They say that blood is thicker than water. What we have is thicker than blood."

by Toonderstrook on Feb 27, 2008 12:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

LOL

First royalsreview takes away our championship and has Guillen fired, now this. What CAN you believe that is disseminated (since we are talking about Danks, thought it'd be appropriate terminology) on the 'Net?

What exactly do you bring to any discussion other than endless stupid comments with some nasty little dig thrown in?

by winningugly on Feb 27, 2008 5:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

At least he's left handed.

by twoeightnine on Feb 27, 2008 12:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

That's Sisco, right?

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 12:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Correct

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Feb 27, 2008 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If Pete were here, we could tell by

the lack of used kleenex that we have an impostor on our hands. But without that measure, who can tell?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Feb 27, 2008 12:22 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm so over Johnie Danks

Jerry Owens is my new love interest, he's so cute!

"Swisher's versatility allows us to give Owens a chance to come back and show he's ready to be that sparkplug like Podsednik was a couple of years ago." - KW

by ChicagoPete on Feb 27, 2008 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and he's fast!

"Swisher's versatility allows us to give Owens a chance to come back and show he's ready to be that sparkplug like Podsednik was a couple of years ago." - KW

by ChicagoPete on Feb 27, 2008 7:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Let the games begin!!!!

No, not Larry vs Deac or Pete vs WU. No, not SSH posting the perfect lineup. I mean a REAL HONEST TO GOODNESS BASEBALL GAME!!!

What a long and crappy winter.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Feb 27, 2008 7:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

seriously!

I need the warm arizona sun on TV to dig me out of this snow.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Feb 27, 2008 7:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I hear you have another 6-12"

on its way. My sister has told me it's the worst winter in 30 years. Sorry to hear it.

It's cold here, too - in the high 40's this AM. Brrr.

What exactly do you bring to any discussion other than endless stupid comments with some nasty little dig thrown in?

by winningugly on Feb 27, 2008 7:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

it sucks

but what can you really do about it besides move if you really hate it that much. for me, ill just deal with it. HOWEVER, i would prefer it not be snowing here when i go to one of the season openers (havent decided which one im goin to yet)

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Feb 27, 2008 7:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

*season opening series games

technically there is only ONE season opener.

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Feb 27, 2008 7:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Richar

Anyone, anyone?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 8:16 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

in camp today

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/02/richar-sighting.html

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Might want to check out the

photos / videos Tony posted on SoxTalk.com

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63101&st=45

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2008 8:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

is everyone still sleeping

or is this the calm before the storm that we call white sox spring-training opener?

12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez

by The Deacon on Feb 27, 2008 9:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not everyone is asleep

I imagine folks will start coming on line later today.

What exactly do you bring to any discussion other than endless stupid comments with some nasty little dig thrown in?

by winningugly on Feb 27, 2008 9:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This board will light up

If we can squeeze 200 posts arguing about arguing, then an actual game should really get the blood pumping.

by HulkSmash on Feb 27, 2008 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Simple answers to simple questions:

"Why did Ozzie pinch hit for Thome"?
So he wouldn't miss his tee time.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Feb 27, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tee,

or tea?

by HulkSmash on Feb 27, 2008 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

owens scratched from lineup

bourgois in. i think we've seen this one before...

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/02/owens-scratched.html

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 10:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

One can only imagine

the amount of weeping and gnashing of teeth around that Tucson complex.

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2008 10:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

the "Wailing Wall West?"

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2008 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He is Pods 2.0

by southsideirish71 on Feb 27, 2008 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ferraris

require full time mechanics.

"All this has done is put the Tigers in a better position to contend with us."

by ballyb on Feb 27, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

So do Jags

What exactly do you bring to any discussion other than endless stupid comments with some nasty little dig thrown in?

by winningugly on Feb 27, 2008 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And shitty players

by HulkSmash on Feb 27, 2008 10:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pathetic, but it should make us happy...

More injuries for Owens = more playing time for Quentin.

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

mccarthy out/hurt (again)

seems like the sox got out just in time with this guy. maybe those guys who analyzed his delivery were on to something when they said he was a high injury risk. elbow "soreness."

link

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 10:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Just like you said before Larry

75% of the pitchers in spring training get arm/shoulder/elbow etc. soreness.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sure

but you'd rather see that soreness appear, i don't know, after they've done some actual pitching. and it's more worrisome when it's a pitcher who has had the same/similar soreness or injury in the recent past. when you have that confluence, it suggests a weakness.

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the game

is the only way to watch the game is if you have MLBtv?

Bring Back BA

by marco054 on Feb 27, 2008 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately,

I believe that is correct. The first game on "regluar" TV is Monday (Comcast Sports Network).

by palehose67 on Feb 27, 2008 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This ends now!

The White Sox have not defeated Colorado in Tucson since March 6, 2006, and are winless in their past 10 meetings.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Feb 27, 2008 10:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wait, wait...don't tell me.

That's not really John Danks!

It took all of my hungover brainpower to figure that one out. So...I take it Thorn-dawg is still on the team? What about Boone Logan? I just realized I haven't thought about the Sox bullpen since around last June.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Feb 27, 2008 10:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ozzie's lineup for today...

CF Jerry Owens
SS Orlando Cabrera
DH Jim Thome
1B Paul Konerko
RF Jermaine Dye
C A.J. Pierzynski
3B Josh Fields
2B Juan Uribe
LF Brian Anderson
P John Danks

Jerry Owens leading off and Uribe starting at 2B. Southsideirish71's depressing predictions are likely going to come to fruition.

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Question:

They don't really think Jerry is better in center than BA, do they? I realize it's only the first spring training game.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Feb 27, 2008 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't Owens scratched??

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

SSH just really needed to post a lineup

the accuracy of it wasn't his main concern. this is ST, after all.

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. Like the sun must rise,

tides must flow, SSH MUST post a lineup. See my 7:30 post this thread.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Feb 27, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

since i'm already in midseason form

and, like everyone else, in the best shape of my life, here's the real lineup:

Bourgeois, CF

Cabrera, SS

Thome, DH

PK, 1B

Dye, RF

AJ, C

Fields, 3B

Uribe, 2B

Anderson, LF

Danks, LHP

Danks will be followed by Harrell, Wassermann, Sisco, Jenks, Logan, Day and Ohka.

and, as an added bonus, pitching for the rest of the week:

Thu, vs. Colo -- Contreras, Linebrink, Russell, Vasquez, Haeger, Perez, Ohka

Fri, vs. Ariz -- Buehrle, Broadway, Carrasco, Macdougal, Dotel, Harrell, Day

Sat vs. Ariz -- Floyd, Logan, Jenks, Wassermann, Sisco, Haeger, Perez

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This makes me think that Anderson...

will definitely be traded. It seems like it is more important to Ozzie to see if Bourgeois can play CF to possibly be a backup utility man who can play the infield and the outfield.

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes, we know that

wouldn't be more important to know that than confirming whether BA can still play center? i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say he can.

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Probably...

Do you see there being any room for Bourgeois on our opening day roster?

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If BA only could...

...catch up to the high heater. Give him 3 of those and he grabs bench, almost everytime.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i wish

but no. pablo and then ramirez are ahead of him. barring injury (probably two), he's AAA. in the ideal "didn't give pablo that extension" world, he'd be a better choice because he can (at least we think) play center, too. he's probably the same player as ozuna otherwise. but now the sox also have ramirez, who is also a similar player (though, hopefully, better long-term). tough to see how he'd fit. he'd be a very good choice as a superutility player.

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

At least BA has Power

disclaimer: when he makes contact

Ramirez looks like he might have some power though.

I think BA has two more minor league options, so you're right - probably going to be sent down or traded.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

With that disclaimer,

nobody has more power than Uribe. That man sure can swing a turkey leg.

by palehose67 on Feb 27, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

we're talking about bourgeois, not anderson

by larry on Feb 27, 2008 2:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Somewhere Dusty is rejoicing!

Perez homecoming not meant to be
By The Denver Post

Feb 27:
TUCSON -- Neifi Perez's search for a happy ending won't feature a reunion.

After OK'ing a $750,000 minor-league contract, the Rockies passed on bringing Perez back, determining it was not a good fit Tuesday night. They don't believe they backed out of the deal, because they said it was never official.

The contract, however, had posted with the players association on Monday afternoon.

"We got close," agent Paul Kinzer said. "Neifi is a little disappointed that we couldn't get it done, but we appreciate the Rockies considering him. We are sorry it didn't work out. In the end, we couldn't get it done."

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Feb 27, 2008 1:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Alvarez Out Indefinitely With Broken Bone In Hand

[Aaron Fitt]:

Vanderbilt third baseman Pedro Alvarez, a two-time first-team All-American and the No. 1 prospect for the 2008 draft, will miss a minimum of six weeks after breaking a bone in his hand in Vandy's season opener against Oregon State on Friday.

"This is an unfortunate situation for Pedro," Vanderbilt coach Tim Corbin said in a statement. "Obviously we will miss having him in the lineup and in the field. He is a special player that can't be replaced. This is the kind of injury you don't rush back from and we hope to have him back at full strength later in the season."

Calls to the Vanderbilt staff to get more details about the injury have not been returned.

Alvarez suffered the injury in his first at-bat but finished the game, going 0-for-2 with two walks. He sat out Vandy's next two games against Arizona State and Miami (Ohio).

by The Wizard on Feb 27, 2008 1:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't really affect us either way...

since we won those meaningless games at the end of the season.

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

too bad

we can't trade Crede to them!

by ruffster on Feb 27, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

White Sox agree to terms with 21 players...

Link:

TUCSON -- The Chicago White Sox have agreed to terms on one-year contracts with the following 21 players:

Pitchers (15) - RHP Lance Broadway, LHP John Danks, RHP Dewon Day, RHP Jack Egbert, RHP Gavin Floyd, RHP Charlie Haeger, RHP Lucas Harrell, LHP Boone Logan, RHP Nick Masset, RHP Oneli Perez, RHP Bobby Jenks, RHP Adam Russell, LHP Andrew Sisco, LHP Carlos Vasquez and RHP Ehren Wassermann.

Catchers (2) - Cole Armstrong and Donny Lucy

Infielders (1) - Danny Richar

Outfielders (3) - Brian Anderson, Jerry Owens and Carlos Quentin

The White Sox also will renew the contract of third baseman Josh Fields.

by SSH2005 on Feb 27, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

post updated

by The Wizard on Feb 27, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Jordan Danks

I know it goes back to the old "will power develop?" question, but I'd be fine with taking Danks.

MrROFL.com

by shaftr on Feb 27, 2008 11:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

woah there, slugger

danks is a projected late first round/supplemental round guy. now, that could all change based upon how he does this year. but, based upon what we know right now, the sox should do better than pick him.

by larry on Feb 28, 2008 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs