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Welcome to the new South Side Sox and SB Nation

Hey South Side Sox,

Today is the big day. We've switched your community over to the new SB Nation sports blog platform. My name is Trei, and I'm here to help you get adjusted to the new home we've built for you. If you have questions or trouble with the new system, post a comment in this thread and myself or one of the team (lovitt, sixfoot6 or odacrem) will try to point you in the right direction.

Before we begin, I want to let you know that South Side Sox is one of the first blogs in the SB Nation family to make this transition. We still consider this a beta platform, so don't be surprised if you find a few bugs or if everything isn't exactly right yet. We hope you'll take the time to report any problems you encounter at bugreport@sbnation.com.

Please take a few minutes to read about what's new below. But if you just can't wait to jump in, here are some quick things to check out:

  1. Sign up for your SB Nation network account and claim your old blog accounts
  2. Once you're logged in, press your  Z  key in any thread with new comments
  3. Explore your dashboard and setup your profile
  4. Read the guide to the new FanPost editor
  5. Install the FanShot bookmarklet and post videos to South Side Sox from YouTube or images from Flickr
  6. Click the "Rec" button on posts and comments to help other people find the good stuff.

What Has Changed

SB Nation Network Accounts - the Big Change

Readers across all of our blogs told us they wanted one account to use on every SB Nation blog. To make this work, we're requiring that everyone create a new SB Nation network account. In most cases you should be able to keep your old username, but a few of you may have to choose something new, since every other community in SB Nation will be going through this same transition. We tried to be as fair as possible in deciding who gets to keep which name, using a formula that takes into account length of membership and frequency of activity.

We want to make it as easy as possible for you to participate on all of our blogs, but we don't want to encourage everyone to start visiting rival team blogs and initiating flame wars. To maintain friendly communities we ask that you explicitly join each blog in order to participate. It's a two-click process, but it does means accepting each blog's community guidelines. Just as you join each blog individually, you can be banned on each blog individually.

You can claim old accounts from multiple SB Nation blogs, and your new username will be retroactively attached to all your old comments and diaries. So now you'll be able to access all your writings from your single profile page... like magic.

To get started, click here to claim your old blog accounts and create a new SB Nation network account.

FanPosts (the Section Formerly Known as Diaries)

We changed their name. Why? Because we took this major upgrade as an opportunity to leave behind some vocabulary that never made much sense for a sports blog. SB Nation is the network of, by and for fans, and these are the blog posts we make. So we call them FanPosts. When you're at a bar telling someone to check out your online sports opinions, you don't have to suggest they read your diary.

FanPosts are displayed differently on the homepage - we include your avatar to give more credit for the time you spend writing great posts. The new post editor has a WYSIWYG view that provides easy formatting. It also auto-saves drafts so you don't have to worry about losing your work when you compose a post within the web browser. And you can now associate teams, players and games with your posts: these tools promote your FanPosts on our new team, player and game pages - across the entire network.

The new system does not work like the old diary editor. For example, in HTML mode the new editor doesn't auto-create a new paragraph from two line breaks. But it does offer a whole array of new features. Look for the blinking help button on the right side of the FanPost editor for quick tips, and take a look at our full guide to writing FanPosts on the new platform.

IMPORTANT - if you write your posts in Microsoft Word or some other off-line editor, you will get the most reliable behavior if you cut & paste your post into the HTML view of the FanPost editor. And if you do that, remember to wrap <p></p> tags around each paragraph so your text doesn't run together.

Visual Redesign

This one is probably the most obvious change of all. Like other major websites working to improve readability for their audience, we've adopted a fixed-width layout optimized for the 1024 x 768 resolution used by the majority of South Side Sox and SB Nation network users. We introduced a navigation bar with quick links into old and new sections of the site. We also polished a few edges, made some things larger, others smaller and moved a few boxes here and there. More changes and adjustments to come.

Search

We've completely replaced the old search engine with a new one. We're excited to make it easier to find old posts and comments, but we've only taken our first pass on the tools we're offering. We're focused on making search even better than what you had before, so please know that we're aware search is missing key features and we're working on it.

What's New

Schedule, Scores, Stats and Roster

South Side Sox now has all the basic information about the Chicago White Sox and hundreds of other teams. During games you'll see a regularly updated line score, and as the season progresses we'll track team stat totals and leaders. This is just our first step, so look for us to publish more detailed and archival stats in the future. The best part about all this sports data is that we've integrated it directly into the blog so. We now have special pages that aggregate all blog posts written about games, players and teams.

Recommending FanPosts

Some writing deserves more attention and more conversation. If you want to bump a FanPost up to the top and keep it there for awhile, just click the 'Rec' link under the body of the post. When a FanPost receives enough recommendations it will make the recommended list.

Auto-refreshing Comments

You no longer need to refresh the page to see new comments. If you're logged in, new comments will automatically appear on the page every few seconds. When you post a comment, the page will not refresh either. If you want to quickly cycle through all the new comments, you can press the C key on your keyboard. Unmark a new comment after you've read it with the X key. And use the Z key if you want to umark comments as you're cycling through them.

As you use these shortcuts to cycle through comments, press the R key to reply to the current comment. All these helpful keyboard shortcuts are listed at the top of each comments section for reference.

Recommending Comments

Now you can reward those folks who take the time to look up stats and make smart arguments in the comments. Next to each comment there is an 'actions' link that you can click to find the recommend and flag options.

Flagging Comments

To help the moderators on a site, we've built-in tools that let you flag comments that are spam, trolling or just plain inappropriate. Only moderators can see those flags.

FanShots

Many members of the community just want to post that one link, video, photo or quote, but don't need a full FanPost. We've got you covered: FanShots let you share YouTube videos, Flickr or PhotoBucket photos, quotes from articles, portions of chat transcripts, top 5 lists and simple links. If it's a video or image we'll put a thumbnail on the homepage when you post it.

For those of you who are experienced internet hunter-gatherers of Chicago White Sox material, install the bookmarklet onto the links bar of your browser and share FanShots with the community from wherever on the web you find that killer quote or photo.

Archives

It's much easier to find that post about a certain deadline trade or prospect retro feature. You can browse by year and month.

Avatars

Upload an image so folks can see your custom avatar on your profile, your FanPosts, and all your comments.

Network Profiles

Now that we have unified SB Nation network accounts, your profile will be your central hub for all of your activity on any blogs where you are a member.

Network bar

The top bar stays with you on all SB Nation blogs. It's a quick way to login and logout. When you're logged in, you'll see your avatar and screen name which links to your profile. The icon to the right leads to your Dashboard area where you can edit your settings, profile, account details and any FanPosts or FanShots you've published. As we add more blogs to the new SB Nation network, the My Blogs menu will be a handy way to navigate between the blogs you've joined.

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There are plenty more small changes and additions we've made, so please take a careful look around and explore this new system. We appreciate your patience and hope you'll help us improve the new platform for this and all the other SB Nation blogs.

And in case you missed it, you'll want to start by claiming your old blog accounts and creating a new SB Nation network account.

SouthSideSox is a community driven site. As such, users are able to express their thoughts and opinions in a FanPost, such as this one, which represents the views of this particular fan, but not necessarily the entire community or SouthSideSox editors.

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Looks great

Nice to have all my accounts merged into one. Pretty painless transition as well, nice work!

by RME JICO on Mar 23, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess that means we're up and running (Though I'm sure that could change)

I'm still up. I'll have another "Why I'm excited about the new platform" post up before I hit the sack

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 23, 2008 11:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First complaint?

I actually like what I've seen so far...but one thing's bothering me: the width allotted to site posts on the home page. The navigation bars on either side of the main site content have grown, while the actual space for content has shrunk. It makes reading posts directly on the home page a lot less enjoyable. That right nav bar with the fanposts and fanshots is just taking up too much of the precious 1024 pixels.

Individual entries look a lot better because the left navigation bar disappears...but the right nav bar still seems wider than it needs to be.

by hiphopnerd on Mar 24, 2008 1:38 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've heard this before

We're still listening and collecting feedback from users as we move additional blogs to the new platform. We may ultimately make changes to address this issue. Thanks for letting us know what you think.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 10:22 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good

The new layout looks good.

Thought I'd finally sign up for the season.

by DBAH0 on Mar 24, 2008 3:56 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well here we are

"we're really doing it, Harry"

by shaftr on Mar 24, 2008 6:56 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

comments

the comments shortcuts are great. they work very well in firefox.

for the first test - Is Jerry Owens a starter or at best a 4th outfielder?

by hugh on Mar 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far so good

hopefully the autorefresh won't make me miss certain comments

Bring Back BA

by marco054 on Mar 24, 2008 9:08 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CSS Woes

Congrats on the new site, but the CSS needs a bit of tweaking. I use a light colored text, and the entry boxes are only setting the BG color. So, I see something like this when posting:

by madopal on Mar 24, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can you tell me more about your setup?

What browser and operating system are you using? And what specific customizations have you made in order to use "light colored text"? (E.g, are you using a custom style sheet? If so, what does it look like?)

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 10:09 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Firefox / Linux

I'm not using any fancy plugin to override CSS settings. Firefox just uses the default color of text that the system specifies. Windows Firefox also has a setting in Tools->Options->Colors->Text and Background. You can check it to "Use System Colors," where it then uses a default color based upon the global desktop settings. I *had* been getting around this by manually setting the bg color to be white and the text to black, but more and more 'm seeing entry boxes and such not setting the colors properly (I'm assuming the sites can set these colors).

I posted to the Firefox/Mozilla boards about this very topic.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=517839&highlight=

I've been looking through the blog-colors.css to try an dfind where it handles the textarea box you have, but I can't seem to find it in there.

by madopal on Mar 24, 2008 12:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Invoking in Windows

Go into the Control Panel, and select Display. Click on the tab for "Appearance," and then click "Advanced." It opens up a panel that lets you change every single system color (text, background, you name it). Now, I set those consistent for my system, so my Window color is black, and my window text color is light gray.

I've also confirmed that it behaves the same way with IE7 under Windows.

by madopal on Mar 24, 2008 1:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more test

In Firefox, in the setting I described above, there's a checkbox for "Allow pages to use their own colors instead of my select," which I always keep checked. So, check that, but uncheck "Use System Colors," set the BG to black and the text to white, and view your sites. The ones that don't properly set the text and/or BG color will show up wonky.

by madopal on Mar 24, 2008 1:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we've made a fix

We've made a change to explicitly set the color for inputs and textareas, which we'll deploy in the next day or so.

I'm one of the guys who built the new SB Nation. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback.

by sixfoot6 on Mar 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good...

...only complaint I have and share with others is the width of the comments being shown. Kind of like reading a newspaper column and sometimes that hurts the eyes on a computer screen. Otherwise, I dig it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 10:29 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So...back to baseball.

Looks like Crede is going to stay, Fields is being sent down, Uribe is going to stay, Ramirez will stay on as a Utility guy, Wasserman may stay (I hope).

Quentin and BA are still fighting it out for the last OF slot?

MacDougal may be sent down if they don't trade/cut Masset?

I like the idea of BA staying up and being the fourth outfielder for the time being...until Quentin gets 100% healthy.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Foooo Real

Can we get some baseball chatter started up again?

Bobby, I agree with you on all accounts.

It really pisses me off that Crede has not been dealt yet. K.W. is in a tough spot, but he should just take the best offer at this point. Being pessimistic....Crede has shown that he is not health thus far (I don't care what Chris De Luca thinks) and there is a huge risk that he does nothing to improve his status in the eyes of other clubs. If management is really serious about winning this year, then they would make the tough decision to move Crede for nothing in order to give Josh regular AB's.

I like the idea of Quentin being sent to AAA until he is 100%. There is no point to have him on the bench playing every 2-3 days while he should be in AAA working out the kinks.

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Mar 24, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oooooh........

it's 2.0-licious.....

what's the tech behind it?

by thatshortkid on Mar 24, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From back when it was riddled with error messages

I deduced that it was Ruby on Rails running on a mongrel server. I have no technical knowledge of the system, and barely understand what I wrote in the previous sentence.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah so...

i was wondering if it was RoR or AJAX or Web-2.0-buzzword-du-jour.

these crazy kids today and their dynamic content bolted onto html...

by thatshortkid on Mar 24, 2008 1:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments are AJAX

which is how they display dynamicallly

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cheat is correct

Our tech includes: Ruby on Rails, Mongrel, Apache, and MySQL, all running on Linux servers.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 3:00 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Testing 1, 2, 3...is this on?

New site looks sweet.

Just in time for us to berate all of Ozzie's 2008 managerial moves.

Quick survey...how many inches of snow will be on the field in Cleveland 1 week from today?

Share the passion, show the swagger, pray for the bullpen.

by tailgater on Mar 24, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Piniella is stupid...

Dempster and Marquis in the rotation while Lieber is in the bullpen. Wood to close but this was expected.

Who would start Dempster over Lieber?

by SSH2005 on Mar 24, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well,

They want Marquis to get hot like he normally does early on so they can trade him. Dempster they are stuck with, and he isn't a closer - so they are plugging him back in the rotation. Not sure if he will hold up or if he can pitch through 6 innings though.

Lieber will be starting in May.

Now back to Sox talk!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 1:46 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

me?

though that may come from my bemusement at why the cubs decided they needed to sign a washed up vet starter for a stafff that has that sort of production already in spades. i think they're projected to be about the same in value.

by larry on Mar 24, 2008 2:23 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marshall

should be starting. Lieber, Marquis and Dempster should all be working for Fed Ex.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 2:52 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

Lieber is 38 and hasn't pitched 200 innings since 2005.
You don't want Marquis pitching 200 innings...because the last 100 he would have an ERA of about 6.50.
Dempster hasn't pitched 200 innings since 2002 - don't think he will this year either.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 2:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was referring to marquis

hence the "consistent"? and you oversstate a touch the second half woes he's had in a couple recent seasons. and i don't particularly buy into that sort of stuff, either.

by larry on Mar 24, 2008 3:13 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am no fan of Marquis or

his outrageous salary. He didn't make the Cardinals postseason roster in 2006 and he barely made the Cubs in 2007. Now he says he should start or be traded...well, you can have that kind of player and his ups and downs.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 24, 2008 3:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'll take an innings eater at the end of my rotation

any day. this sox team could certainly use someone of that ilk. and if you think $7m average is an outrageous salary, i'm pretty sure you'll be out of adjectives for baseball salaries quickly.

by larry on Mar 24, 2008 3:47 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like that you can reply to a post

and that doing so doesn't mark all messages as 'read'

this way you can make a reply at the top and finish reading messages below afterwards

my gripe is still the speed
I upgraded from SeaMonkey 1.1.6 to 1.1.8 and that helped a lot

still not like SSS1 though

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is anyone running Firefox 3?

I haven't upgraded yet. They're calling a stable beta now.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 2:18 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not me

I mainly use SeaMonkey (now version 1.1.8)

I also have Firefox installed (2.0.0.9) bt rarely fire it up...

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plugins...

I'm waiting for them to catch up with some more plugins. A bunch of stuff I use isn't supported yet.

by madopal on Mar 24, 2008 3:01 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

but I could survive with only GMail notifier working

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 3:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're still working on performance

One of our top priorities is to make sure that threads with many comments load fast. What specifically feels slow to you, thewizardsofoz?

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 2:57 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

loading times

the time it takes the frontpage and threads to load

I'm using SeaMonkey now, I'll try firefox too

is it optimized for any browser?

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It ought to work well in most modern browsers

Including Firefox 2+, Safari 2+, and Internet Explorer 6+.

I just tried out the latest version of SeaMonkey, and it seems to perform similarly to Firefox (which is unsurprising, given that they both use the same Mozilla Gecko engine).

The site seems to load fastest in Safari 3 and Firefox 3 Beta. As I said, we'll be working over the couple of weeks to improve the load time of threads in the other browsers.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 5:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Initial load was slow (it hung up on assets2)

but after that, it's noticeably faster with FF3...

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 6:15 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like

It's a small detail I know, but I like that you don't have to scroll back to the top of the page to get back to the home icon.

It's the little things Cheat, really it is.

I'll bring the awesome.

by Hazymania on Mar 24, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The old RSS URLs should be supported

Are you having trouble?

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by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 4:41 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the old RSS addresses on my reader

and when I posted today's gamethread it took a while to show up

I see the new RSS address is different (feedburner something)

I had http://www.southsidesox.com/rss2/index.xml
I see http://feeds.feedburner.com/sportsblogs/southsidesox.xml

any difference which I use?

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 5:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can use either

The URL for this site's feed is:

http://www.southsidesox.com/rss/

But it's equivalent to the two URLs you mentioned (they all ultimately redirect to the Feedburner URL). There are also these two feeds:

http://www.southsidesox.com/rss/fanposts
http://www.southsidesox.com/rss/fanshots

Which contain only FanPosts and FanShots, respectively.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 6:06 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

google reader just updated

and included the last 20 posts or so. Kind of strange.

by shaftr on Mar 24, 2008 4:59 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

will the search function allow sectional search?

like in SBN1

search stories only, diaries only, comments only etc.

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

upgrading search is high priority for us

so expect to see the features you mentioned, and more in the next few weeks.

I'm one of the guys who built the new SB Nation. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback.

by sixfoot6 on Mar 24, 2008 2:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from an email from trei adressing the search issues...

"we only put the most basic search tools and results on top of that [more powerful engine]. We're now in the process of improving those. It's one of 2 of our highest priority projects and we expect to make a first release of the next version of search in [a few weeks]."

So we have to live with the truncated search for right now. But the only thing really missing is the ability to search comments. Relevant FanPosts (diaries) and FanShots show up in the sidebar, with the relevant stories in the center (main content) column.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 2:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trei:

Any chance of getting an iPhone specific icon? Apple's site shows how to build one, and the same could be done for Daily Kos too (easily). Let me know if you can't find the link.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Mar 24, 2008 3:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good idea

I've logged a request for this. We'll get on it after we have taken care of some of our higher priority issues.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 24, 2008 4:54 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Z button shortcut.

This isn't working consistently for me. I'll go to see a couple of new comments, push Z to get to them, it won't work, so I'll scroll through them like old. But then somehow it assumes I've read those comments even though they were never highlighted.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Mar 24, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What browser and operating system are you using?

We do find that often the key shortcuts don't work until a page has fully loaded.

I'm one of the guys who built the new SB Nation. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback.

by sixfoot6 on Mar 24, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that's it.

It seems to be going fine if I wait a few seconds on longer comment sections like this one.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Mar 24, 2008 4:42 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interface

it's not easy to see that there is a new diary

in the old platform the red new made it easier to identify a new diary

comments are ok because they are yellow

new diaries don't stand out

by The Wizard on Mar 24, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where isn't it easy to see that there's a new FanPost?

Would you like there to be a visual indicator in the RECENT FANPOSTS sidebar on the front page, next to each FanPost that you haven't viewed?

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A visual indicator would be nice

Also, I noticed that when you're reading a regular post or FanPost, there are lists of recent posts and FanPosts on the right side, but not recent FanShots. It would be nice if the FanShots list was included on every page instead of just the home page. Also, if possible, an alert at the bottom of the screen similar to the new comments alert, but for new FanPosts and FanShots, would ne a nice touch. At this point it seems to me like the FanShots get lost in the shuffle a little bit, since you have to navigate away from the page you're commenting in to even know that a new one has been posted, much less click on it.

Just some suggestions. Overall I'm really enjoying the new site.

by Ryno on Mar 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the ability to add the Recent/Recommended FanShots

to all the interior pages as well... Wiz and I debated putting anything on the inside (before FanPosts became a default) since it just adds clutter but increases utility...

I was going to put it to a vote... we'll give it a couple of days or so.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 25, 2008 1:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wiz posted some FanShots

which don't look right, and the FanShot page is whacked out right now. Though I assume it could be an FF3 issue.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I deleted the offending FanShots

but you guys might want to check out the chat type fanposts more closely. The rounded corners werent' rendering right, and it was throwing off the formatting of the entire page.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 9:58 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

We'll take a look at this.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 9:42 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks like we have a blockquote bug

at least in the comments...

You can't put a return line inside a blockquote. You have to manually edit in paragraph breaks.

See this post for an example

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 9:15 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got it

We've logged a bug about this. Thanks for reporting it.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 9:45 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gamethread at the top of the site is pretty messed up

Don't know what happened or how to fix it.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 25, 2008 6:11 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We see that

We're looking into it now.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 6:22 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should be good now

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by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 6:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got it

Thanks, I've logged a bug for this.

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by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 10:03 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

suggestion

the placement of the 'xx comments, xx new' varies between posts[center] and fanposts/fanshots [rhs]

so when they all end up in the same page they're confusing

consistedcy would be nice

by The Wizard on Mar 25, 2008 6:34 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point

I've logged a request for this.

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by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 10:08 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Similarly

On the main page sidebar, comments and recs are displayed on the same line for FanShots, but a separate line for FanPosts.

As a result, the FanPost section is cleaner and easier to see when there is new comments.

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by The Cheat on Mar 25, 2008 10:21 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

I've passed all of this feedback to our designer.

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by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 10:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

edit post link

in sbn1 there was an edit link beneath each post on the frontpage

it was quicker

oh, I don't think having all the buttons, that are inside a thread now, on the outside would be good either
too much clutter...
a single link to an admin page for that post would be enough

by The Wizard on Mar 25, 2008 6:41 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is no big/urgent deal

I can use the dashboard or better the 'manage editorial' link

by The Wizard on Mar 27, 2008 1:51 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I couldn't get the reply

to this comment to nest

does it stop nesting after a certain threshold?

by The Wizard on Mar 25, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, the nesting stops after a certain point

to prevent the comments from becoming illegibly narrow.

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by lovitt on Mar 25, 2008 9:48 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do the comments in the wide section have a higher theshold before we break them?

I know the thread we broke yesterday stayed broken, but that was because we hit the default limit. Will the limit be increased in the wide version?

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by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 11:56 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm wondering the same thing

i certainly like the look better, even if the increase isn't raised.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 12:31 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not yet, but they will

We're going to add a few indentation levels to the maximum in the wide layout. We'll make that change sometime in the next few of days.

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by lovitt on Mar 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

space

in this fanshot the space between the last 2 words in the title keeps getting converted to ampersandnbsp when you view it from the frontpage
I type "to be" and it shows up as "to be"

if you click the fanshot and go inside the display is ok

by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops

Ok, I see the problem. I've logged a bug. Thanks.

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by lovitt on Mar 26, 2008 7:14 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've got some CSS issues

with the text in the current series box now positioned at the top of the site.

The comments, recs, views aren't really visable.

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by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 6:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're working on that right now

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by lovitt on Mar 26, 2008 7:12 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

new message indicators at the front page

(besides the 'red to standout' thing discussed above)

in stories they are like: (55 new)
can you make them like this: [55 new]
make the parenthesis a bracket, easier to search

same for the fanstories/fanshots

by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Possible feature request

I just posted a quote FanShot 7 minutes after the same thing had already been posted. It would be useful to have a simple check to see if a link had already been posted in a previous fanshot.

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by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I tried using [pre] [/pre] tags in comments

didn't seem to work, can I align stuff somehow else?

ps. I used brackets instead of the larger/smaller-than symbols in the pre tags in the title of this message just so they'll display

by The Wizard on Mar 27, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've got a bug logged for that

We'll be bringing support for [pre] back soon.

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by lovitt on Mar 27, 2008 3:17 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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