Why I'm excited about the new platform
And we're down... Writing offline now.
So let's talk about why I'm excited about the new platform.
1. Auto-updating comments -- No more endlessly refreshing the game thread. Just leave it open, and the new comments shall appear magically.
2. Commenting Hot Keys -- The team has added a number of new comment functions. These hot keys are so great I actually giggled a little bit when they first debuted these features to us. The "C" and "X" keys allow you to easily tab through comments and mark them read, respectively. "Z" combines the two, such that I don't use C or X anymore. No more "Ctrl-f [n" to find new comments!
Replying to comments is easier as well. You can perform the whole operation without loading an additional page, or even touching the mouse. R, type, tabe, type, tab, enter, enter. I've been trying to use these hot keys on the old site for the last 6 weeks.
3. FanShots -- I have to admit, I've been a bit disappointed by how I've seen these quick-hit type posts utilized on the few blogs to make the migration ahead of us. When the dev team first introduced them to us, they explained that they were a response to the posting tendencies of certain posters. They were originally intended to be a response to those sub-300 character diaries that either had an ugly character string at the end or ended up as a comment in an unrelated thread. They've included Link and Quote type FanShots, which are, at least in part, in response to our our very own SSH2005's constant string of Rotoworld updates.
The provided bookmarklet makes posting these type FanShots a breeze. Just highlight a passage and click your new "Share on SB Nation" button in your browser and it will automatically format a quote for you.
I hope you all grow to utilize the FanShot section for those Links and Quotes you would throw into the comments sections. These FanShots can (and some will) be upgraded to the frontpage. I can envision upgrading at least one of these a day. The Miguel Cabrera signing, or Curtis Granderson injury each could have been upgrade worthy were we running on the new system over the weekend.
Basically, I just want the site to be more active, more useful. I think getting a stream of quasi-White Sox related news stories and links by clicking "FanShots" in our new navigation menu is very useful. And a steady stream of those posts hitting the front page rewards those of you who dutifully submit links as well as the rest of the community with more up-to-the-minute type posts hitting the front page.
4. Tags -- Three years ago, I was contemplating moving off my .blogspot domain in search of a better platform. I even bought a domain, which I still own. There were two features that I wanted on my new blog; a better commenting system and tags. When I was approached by the SB Nation folks, I took one look at the comment system and said yes. I could overlook the lack of a clean taxonomy system thanks to the proven community-building commenting and diary system we have here. But I've never lost my desire for the powerful utility of tags. Well now we've got tags, and they're big powerful tags too.
Tags are just like you'd see anywhere else on the web, flickr, del.icio.us, etc. Just use commas to separate tags and label until your heart's content. In addition to your normal tags, we have Team, Player and Event type tags. Each of these link to a respective Team, Player or Event (game) where you can see all the most recent entries tagged with that specific Player, Team, or Event. Every player on the 40-man roster has their own player page, but non-40-man minor leaguer do not as of yet. So a post about Aaron Poreda and Jack Egbert should be tagged "Aaron Poreda" in regular tag section and "Jack Egbert" in the Player section.
The usefulness of these tags will not become apparent until we have built a backlog of properly tagged, stories, FanPosts, and FanShots. Eventually, if I write a properly tagged post about Joe Crede and the San Francisco Giants, all of the most recent (properly tagged) posts will automatically be linked in the sidebar.
5. Gamethreads/Event Pages -- Gamethreads are going to have an almost chat-like feel to them with new comments popping up automatically. Yes, it's worthy of a second mention.
I haven't really seen it in action, but gamethreads should be automatically adorned with a truncated box score at the top of the post.
Once we've got a backlog of gamethreads and recaps, you'll be able to go through the schedule, click on a given game, and be taken to a page with the gamethread, recap, and any other related posts (pics or video) about that game.
Depending on how well the season goes, it should be a fun way to look back on the season, or just torture yourself.
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The new platform is not without it's pratfalls. The search feature has been neutered a bit, for instance. Returning it to it's full functionality and maybe more (I know they have the capability for a MLB-wide or SB Nation-wide search) is at the top of the dev team's list. But overall, I'm incredibly excited about the new capabilities of the site and network. I realize this is a lot to get used to. I've been playing on the site, in lesser stages of development, for over 2 months now. So the initial shock has worn off long ago. I can (virtually) assure you that you'll grow to love the new site. It's not gonna happen overnight. Change is hard. But this is change for the better.SouthSideSox is a community driven site. As such, users are able to express their thoughts and opinions in a FanPost, such as this one, which represents the views of this particular fan, but not necessarily the entire community or SouthSideSox editors.
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Comments
I did some tagging of old posts
to demonstrate some of the functionality.
Here is a an old entry about the Crede situation. Related stories and such will appear in the side bar.
Here is the SF Giants page (hosted on SSS). It contains all the posts we've tagged Giants, links to all the Giants data we have (not much until the season starts), the latest 5 stories on McCoveyChronicles, and more...
Here is a Joe Crede page, which will eventually (once the season starts) have stats at the top, and all the Crede tagged posts below, with FanShots and FanPosts in the sidebar.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 1:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
very slick
Looks great Cheat, just in time for opening day.
by ChicagoPete on Mar 24, 2008 5:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks good, Cheat.
I have to think that you know far better than 99.99% of us if this will be an overall improvement, so I will happily defer to your expertise. As always, thanks for taking all the time to make this as good as it is.
by palehose67 on Mar 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez.
I'm sure this is all well and good, but I don't know if a week is enough time for me to learn the new tricks. Everything just seems so "busy" and complicated.
Hell, I don't even know how to change the pre-assigned avatar. I clicked on browse and it opened "my photos" on the pc. What do you do from there?
I know: old dogs, new tricks...
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 24, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
uploading an avatar
after you click browse, find a photo or image that you want to be your avatar, select it and click 'OK'. then on your edit profile page, just click the blue 'update' button at the bottom.
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by Trei Brundrett on Mar 24, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap!
It worked! Thanks, Orange!
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 24, 2008 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm loving the Z shortcut.

And the preview shows me that I got the image up correctly, as well as the fact that they reverted me to my old tagline.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 24, 2008 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I think "z" will change my life on this site.
by shaftr on Mar 24, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It hasn't been working consistently though.
For me at least. It worked fine just now but in the gamethread up there I couldn't get it to work.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 24, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two things i've noticed
1. you have to wait for the page to fully load.
2. if you're using some type of tabbed browsing, and you've just switched over from another tab, you may have to click the content window an extra time to allow the hotkeys to work.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 24, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "Z" has started giving me issues too
Its weird, has been working, then in the last thread you posted it won't work, but it will on others...
Won't work at all in my blackberry - making the train ride really dull - starts to load then gets an error and I completely get blown out
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread - In which Cheat expresses mild disappointment - it won't work
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What browser/operating system are you using?
I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation
by lovitt on Mar 27, 2008 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IE 7 - win xp sp2
Won't work in:
What Is A Successful Season? - either. But is working in others. However when I go back it says I read them all.
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worked...!
I saw you post that the chg would go in last night - tried the "Z" in Cheat's thread and it appears to now function there.
Don't know if you saw my suggestion in regards to the Preview button - also add a post so those that want to post something can - thus bybassing the preview (Preview / Cancel / Post)
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 28, 2008 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
I'm so damn excited about this platform!
I have to get used to fan shots thing but I'm sure I'll get it in time
by Option27 on Mar 25, 2008 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, you suck...
Now I'm more worthless than I already was.
by SSH2005 on Mar 25, 2008 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New site
This looks great imagine how much better it will be when we all become skilled with the new stuff. Good job everyone!
by floridajim on Mar 26, 2008 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The wide & no avatars are a big improvement, thank you
One suggestion - can the fonts be changed? Maybe it's just force of habit, but the old SSS font seemed to be a lot easier to read. Maybe it's just lack of sleep but these fonts seem to require more effort.
by ChicagoPete on Mar 26, 2008 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Also - can we bypass the preview button?
I'm not a stickler for what I throw against the wall here,and I don't feel like proofreading my stuff so would definitely prefer going straight to posting. This extra step would especially be a pain during a game thread.
by ChicagoPete on Mar 26, 2008 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think after a couple weeks you will get used to it
I love the following shortcut:
Z -> R -> type the title -> TAB -> type the body -> RETURN -> RETURN
Z
Z
Z
repeat ...
by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually prefer the preview
since my typing sucks, and I look like an imbecile (as opposed to sounding like an imbecile). God bless you who learned to type at a young age.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather than bypass - Preview - Cancel - Post ??? as buttons
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'nother idea
How about moving this "fanpost" block section to the top right of the page, replacing the "recent comments" section?
IMO the recent comments section is completely useless because it doesn't tell you if anything new has been tagged to these comments. If the "fanposts" moves up, you can tell on first glance if there's recent activity. As it is now, it gets buried under the recent comments and the ads and you can't find it.
by ChicagoPete on Mar 27, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat...
Is there somewhere we can post bugs or suggestions? Or is this adequate for you? (Perhaps 2 fanposts - one for each?)
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat: Any reason I have to log in
multiple times per day? (Other than I don't have much to say.) I used to have to enter my login info maybe once every 2-3 weeks, max, but now often need to re-enter 2-3 times the same day.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 28, 2008 11:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had the same issue as you
whenever I was closing my browser, when I would come back I had to log in again
saw your post and decided to take a look
well, when you log in on the right of the box where you type your password there is a 'remember' button
select that before you login
I did and now it remember me, so far so good
by The Wizard on Mar 28, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I do it at work
it doesn't remember the password. I'll test it further at home.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 28, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
do you have cookies enabled on southsidesox.com?
if you haven't messed with cookies, you're probably OK though...
by The Wizard on Mar 28, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't messed with cookies
but I'll look.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 28, 2008 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite part about the new platform
at first, i thought parts of the platform looked weird and out of place. then i realized it was because i had ad-block plus on. turned it off, and the ads filled in the space well.
i actually like it better with the ads in. nicely done on the layout. just please don't get animated "hit the monkey for free ponzi scheme" ones, ok?
that, and the keyboard comment scrolling, of course.
by thatshortkid on Mar 29, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
font
reading is harder (smaller fonts?) than in SSS1
ps. someone else mentioned this first, I think chipete
by The Wizard on Mar 29, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
fanshots
the 'new' in fanshots in the frontpage is the same color as 'comments'
very confusing, I must've missed some comments...
by The Wizard on Mar 29, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Little detail Cheat
But when will the player numbers be up in the left margin roster section? Not that I'm living and dying by this information, just a curiosity really.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 30, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No clue
I've been wondering that myself... I'm pretty sure they were up (with a few errors) at one point during our testing period.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 30, 2008 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at lonestar ball
and saw they had a few of the numbers inserted but not all.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 30, 2008 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any way
to automatically link the players on the roster selection to Baseball Reference?
by ChicagoPete on Mar 30, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, re the block quotes
It looks like only two lines will fit in there. If you attempt more it automatically throws it outside of the block like this - Little detail Cheat
But when will the player numbers be up in the left margin roster section? Not that I'm living and dying by this information, just a curiosity really.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 30, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply reply
by ChicagoPete on Apr 1, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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