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Around SBN: The Gift Of The 2003 Tigers

Spring Training Game #30: White Sox vs. Brewers

Gavin Floyd vs. Ben Sheets

Time: 3:05 p.m. CT, Radio: MLB.radio (Live Boxscore; MLB Gameday)

Sox: Ozuna, 2B; Cabrera, SS; Thome, DH; Konerko, 1B; Swisher, LF; Dye, RF; Pierzynski, C; Crede, 3B; Ramirez, CF

Brewers: Weeks, 2B; Gwynn, CF; Fielder, 1B; Braun, LF; Hall, 3B; Hart, RF; Gross, DH; Escobar, SS; Kendall, C

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A shock, an absolute shock,

Ramirez starting ahead of Anderson in CF for 2nd day in a row.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

This is...

very likely the Opening Day lineup, right here.

I'd be pretty surprised if Anderson gets the starting CF job in Owens's absence.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 26, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

one would certainly hope not

might as well find out whether he can hit.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might as well get used to it

I actually agree with JRE here - It appears he's been starting less lately, and being put in later in the games. Hopefully that's just to get a better read on the others... (LOL)

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wiz,

what happened to the Owens groin topic?

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

'lil help

Can I get a couple helpful users to rec the NCAA thread? Games start again tomorrow, and it's been buried.

http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/3/17/03458/4262

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd help if I knew what you meant.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go to the thread

click the Story-rec button

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Changed to "Unrecommended"

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

means recommended is selected

by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cheat does too

But I would bury everything that wasn't mine. I'm a vindictive little, yellow-haired, anvil-shaped creature.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, make up your mind

as far as your monogram goes. Are you "A"(sshole) l(arry), Esq., or "V"(indictive) "A"(ss), already?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a flag button

Which gives you the opportunity to mark something as Spam, Inappropriate, or a Troll...

But that just kicks the comment/post into a moderation cue. Even though I've got the threshold set ridiculously low, I doubt I'll ever see much in the moderation area of the backend

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

in the end of that page

do you see a bunch of icons? email, print, ..., ..., rec

rec is for recommended

by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I clicked on the "rec" icon

and it switched to "unrecomended". Is that what you want?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It's got 6 recs now and has been bumped up.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our lineup had so much potential...

now it looks no better than last year.

Ozuna leading off, Swisher batting fifth, and Crede still in the lineup. It will be even better looking with the Tasmanian Devil in there. Disgusting. What a failure.

by SSH2005 on Mar 26, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

um

"no better?" you're kidding, right? swisher over erstad? ramirez over iguchi? cabrera over uribe? those are the primary (only?) differences from opening day last year. sounds good to me.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Get outta my head, larry

See (slightly, and 2 minutes later) below.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

even if you think the rest of it's a wash

i'm not interested in running the numbers but it probably is about that, the difference between erstad and swisher, using the rough tool of MLVr, over 162 games is 51 runs. or "monumental".

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe you are misinterpreting.

I was responding the same time as you to SSH, with essentially the same feedback.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fumble!!

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on now

SSH isn't a queer, though he may be queer.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know

that's why i figured you weren't.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats, and enjoy the peace now

Your life, as you now know it, is about to change forever (for the best). Nuthin' like it, kid.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cute Baby

So at least we know the mailman fathers good looking kids ;)

Congrats. Get all the sleep you can now, and hide anything you don't want broken or destroyed.

by southsideirish71 on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I meant that our lineup could be much better than it is going to be...

But why did you go from having no faith in Ramirez to thinking he is going to be better than Iguchi? You thought he should start in AAA, didn't you?

And when you look at Cabrera over Uribe, you have to also factor in that Uribe is still in the lineup. It is really Cabrera over Richar.

by SSH2005 on Mar 26, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

it really shouldn't be hard

to outdo the roughly 85 OPS+ those two combined for last year. or the, what, 80 that we got from that position overall.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't say he'd be better

i said the others were probably a wash. and i never said i had "no faith" in ramirez.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

Williams said most of our guys had down years last year and that he doesn't expect that this year. Also, the Tigers had to go out and get Miggy and Willis so they could try and contend with us this year.

No worries.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're kidding, right?

Ramirez > Erstad, Swish >>>Pods, Cabrera > (little) Uribe, Uribe < Iguchi.

What's the problem? Looks like an upgrade to me. As I shout from the mountaintop, it's the pitching, stupid (takeoff on a Clinton quote - don't personalize).

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

this team has alot of positions unsolved. But the focus for the next 2 months should also be on 3 dead heads. Dye, Konerko, and Pierzynski. And if Thome bats against lefties, add Ozzie to that list of dead heads. I wonder how many of the 5 mentioned will still be here when the seasons over.

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

You're right.

Those guys need to feel some heat.

by dantesox on Mar 26, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was fast

prince fielder singles, ryan braun homers

by The Wizard on Mar 26, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like Floyd in the zone

Yea - the construction zone. 2 HR, hit a batter...

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt

about it, these team will contend. With KC for last place.

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Dadgummit

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

...wow, I dadgummited too early! Ramirez! (ROY Candidate????)

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

gd

what can't he do.

by hugh on Mar 26, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look - our new CF

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

When do I get my props, dammit?

I had him in CF all along. I don't care if he is the 2nd coming of Mack out there - he can learn, and he can hit.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Mar 26, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

this team desperately needs Ramirez in the lineup!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you a big Gwen Stefani fan?

You say "No Doubt" before each of your remarks.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

silly bobby

he's an ozzie guillen fan. he replies to every third question with "there nodoubtaboutit."

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, now I get it.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought it was a Wire reference

That's one of Omar's favorites....

No doubt.

by longdrive on Mar 26, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh indeed

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 26, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You feelin' me yo?

You finally finish watching yet? We haven't had a proper finale post-mortem here.

by ChicagoPete on Mar 26, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm through 4th

I'm going to a2 in a week and then I'm pretty sure I'll be able to finally on demand it. I'm lookin forward to it.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

FLOYD SETTLED DOWN THAT INNING.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Short lived - I think... damn gameday!

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it was

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

we should get used to that

floyd & contreras combo is gonna kill us this season

by longdrive on Mar 26, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Ozzie was worried about having the 2 rookies back to back

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over/Under

On when Cooper starts drinking in the dugout?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Mar 26, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it will be on the way to the park

So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes

by Brush Back on Mar 26, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey , the Brewers #1

is getting the crap knocked out of him.

Only ST : )

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad

all signs point to us not living and dying by the long ball (on both ends) this year.

I am glad to see Jim grooving it, though.

(saw this line on JD's spring on Sox Machine yesterday: .183/.234/.350, 11/60, 3 BB, 18 K -- stick a fork in him)

by onthemark12 on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

9 hits : (

But 7 Ks and 0 BB : )

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better than

4 HRs in 5 IP. And he's an all-star.

by onthemark12 on Mar 26, 2008 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither one is acceptable

especially if we want any hope of contending for playoffs

by The Scoper on Mar 26, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

Gwen Stefani's HOT! HOT! HOT!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Swisher's batting

about .068 after the first 2 weeks of games.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

you've got a thing for ST stats

i don't even know where to find this stuff.

by larry on Mar 26, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

his swagger has to be worth at least 150 BA points. Which still hardly clears the Mendoza line...

by onthemark12 on Mar 26, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hm...

Now they're saying that Dotel is the culprit.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 26, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was Dotel.

Is that better or worse than if it were MacDougal?

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 minutes underwater!!!

The Devastator strikes again.

How do you fuck a nut?!

by omnipotent grab on Mar 26, 2008 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt

Dye and Konerko haveto be two of the most intimidating hitters in baseball. They either strikeout , single, hit into a DP, or hit a solo HR. Hardly ever a HR with men on base, a double, or a triple, or advance 2 bases on another hitter's single. Guess that's why they get the big bucks!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions  

ozuna

are we sure we feel comfortable with him playing at 2B?

by The Scoper on Mar 26, 2008 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

no

we're hardly comfortable with him being on the team

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Mar 26, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, Hall comes in...

and in, what, two innings, allows two stolen bases and commits an error.

But he says he's fine, so that's okay with me!

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 26, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

WAFJ.

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Christian radio station ; )

What a effin joke

Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?

by ballyb on Mar 26, 2008 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

this teams as ready as its ever gonna be!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt

Paulie! Paulie! You stink!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

No doubt

you can bench Konerko(RHDH), move Swisher to first base. And put Quentin in the OF. Start going with youth!!

by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 26, 2008 6:32 PM CDT reply actions  

dye sucks too

not going to contend with paulie, dye, and aj, thome v. LH

by The Scoper on Mar 26, 2008 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

well guys

after this spring training loss, time to unload everyone.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 26, 2008 7:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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