Spring Training Game #31: White Sox vs. D'backs
by The Wizard on Mar 27, 2008 2:15 PM CDT
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Nick Masset vs. Dan Haren
Time: 2:05 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, MLB.tv, Radio: WSCR AM-670, MLB.radio (Live Boxscore; MLB Gameday)
Sox: Swisher, CF; Cabrera, SS; Thome, DH; Konerko, 1B; Dye, RF; Pierzynski, C; Quentin, LF; Crede, 3B; Uribe, 2B
D'backs: Young, CF; Burke, 2B; Byrnes, LF; Jackson, 1B; Reynolds, 3B; Upton, DH; Romero, A, RF; Ojeda, SS; Hammock, C
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Masset off to a good start - 3 runs
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I like Swisher's patience, just letting the count work for him. Then OC ground ball to short, and Jim right back to the pitcher.
Get him on, get him out, get him back in the field.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Say what you will about Juan's size
But him even getting to that ball was impressive.
The throw not so much though, but it was a tough play.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
general masset's last stand
looks like he'll fare about as good as custer did.
by larry on Mar 27, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can Wasserman go as the long guy?
Or is he more of a short reliever?
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it matter
Masset can get killed for a long time. Wasserman can get guys out.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Masset pitches poorly to both LH and RH hitters, unlike Wasserman who is limited to a ROOGY role.
by hitlesswonder on Mar 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wassermann - Lefties
Lefties are around 2 or 3 for 18 or so this spring.
by sylsouthbb on Mar 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hear alexei is a long guy
ozzie just asked him if he could pitch, too, and alexei said "intentare." then he went out and mowed down the side with a nasty splitter. is there anything this guy can't do?
by larry on Mar 27, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hable ingles?
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard
he couldn't keep his raspberry souffle from falling.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's real raw in the kitchen
but i see talent.
by larry on Mar 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the Cuban Missile
You know with a nickname like that he can bring the heat
by hitlesswonder on Mar 27, 2008 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Custer had better control
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but
Masset can maintain this level of performance for multiple innings, unlike Wasserman....
by hitlesswonder on Mar 27, 2008 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox roster: Anderson, Quentin in
"Brian Anderson and Carlos Quentin were informed that they made the White Sox's Opening Day roster. The final decision on a reliever will be made Saturday in Memphis. "
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/03/roster-update.html
by The Wizard on Mar 27, 2008 2:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We have to hope
that they keep delaying what seems like an obvious decision because Kenny hopes he can get something in return for Masset.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a slam waives masset!
farmio style
by The Wizard on Mar 27, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I get a bloop and a bomb?
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I just hear DJ say:
Swisher is a guy that can fill any hole?
Oooooh boy.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D.J. is dirty like that -- he loves the double entendre...
probably as much as he loves a DP (and I don't mean double play). ; )
by SSH2005 on Mar 27, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was the spring training record in 05?
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't great
but they blew a bunch of games late. They were winning almost every game after the starters were pulled.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I ask
I heard DJ say something like: It's been a long time since a team with a losing ST record won it all. Made me wonder.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
14-18
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/standings/spring?type=loc&year=2005
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by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Michah Schnurstein, everybody!
Masset is not too happy
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Micah Schnurstein?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 27, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pauly hit a homer run
and is now in the booth with Hawk and DJ. Micah took over at 1B, and made a boneheaded play on his first opportunity.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're just trying to approximate
what a "real" sox pitcher will face in the regular season. you know, an error every third inning or so.
by larry on Mar 27, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow - a solo HR... glad we don't that much here
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 Solo shots today - mid-season form
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey cheat I tried to go to futuresox.com on your homepage but it looks like it is hacked. Have you seen this? Whats up?
by gamara21 on Mar 27, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Sox have a big following in Turkey
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, just taken out of game
he's in booth talking on radio
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox have 7 errors in last 7 innings.
Pitching and Defense.
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?
by ballyb on Mar 27, 2008 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is the poster here who was expecting a big year from Masset?
Oops.
by SSH2005 on Mar 27, 2008 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hello
Just joined....nice blog.
Hope the SS boys have a better year..
Hello to everyone!
by swishit on Mar 27, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we put this horse
Out of its misery now?
by Tdogg on Mar 27, 2008 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NAAAAY
this is fun.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gets us prepared for the season
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the blog of negativity.
Masset could still be a good pitcher... I doubt it, but he did look good against the Cubs last year. Anderson is going to be the starting CF to start the season?
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you explain why one outing against the Cubs
should weigh more heavily than
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
masset is dog crap. hes at best a AAA filler for us and needs to be set free. whats the deal with crede and all of these errors??
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
I said I doubt he could still be a good pitcher.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about
a bunch of crappy relief appearances, does that make a pitcher?
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF
MASSET IS GARBAGE. HE HAD 1 GOOD START AGAINST THE CUBS. THAT IS ALL I SAID!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say
even though it's ST the sox have looked like they have a flare for the dramatic. Hopefully this continues into the season. Boy what a DP started by Ramirez. Great job Kenny on getting Ramirez!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
better off with fields instead of crede
this is going to be painful.
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh
i really hope i dont see a mendoza line april for crede.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's spring training
no rules, baby. your mom could get in the game.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your mom
do you think your mom could hit .180 in ST?
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
check that
.179 after that last K :)
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in her prime, sure
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NEW POST
"Masset could still be a good pitcher... I doubt it, but he did look good against the Cubs last year." - sOb
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what?!!! how can you say hes a good pitcher!!!!
hahah
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have got to be absolutly kidding me
please read that quote until you get it.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was joking
hence the hahah...making reference to the last time this was posted and others jumped on how you thought he was a good pitcher. ill put in teal next time to be more clear.
but, why re-post it?
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were joking
but I don't know what your old sss name was... and we have a guy asking who Ramirez is...
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know that...
Ramirez isn't playing today, right?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 27, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am watching the game right now
and he is infact playing SS
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez...
According to the box, Ramirez is not in the game and did not start any double plays, uh, because he isn't (or wasn't yet at least) in the game. Can anybody confirm other than WTGTD?
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha.
This made me realize that I've had the game on tv for the past hour but haven't paid any attention since I turned it on. We'll see after the commercial break.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 27, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he just batted.
It said he was at SS and that he didn't get a hit his first time up in the 6th, so I'm guessing he did start a double play too.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 27, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Box and Gameday have Cabrera listed - 0 for 4 - got me then
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Ramirez still in the game?
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by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
HAS ANYONE TRIED THAT GATORADE G2? I HAVE AND IT IS HORRIBLE. WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahah
its not that great, but i dont think the purple kind is that bad.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need an all caps section
of SoB book reviews of the classics.
MOBY DICK IS TOO LONG. AN WHO EVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING AS A WHITE WHALE.
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by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you referencing liz? shame on you.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
How can any dick, be it Moby or otherwise, be too long?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 27, 2008 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Masset
Is one of those truly SSS unifying causes. Its where the upper and lower filled cupped fans meet and have a party.
by Tdogg on Mar 27, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst part about G2
is that it has like 75 calories but taste like it should have -75 calories. Vitamin water all the way! I will take the extra 75 calories in the VW and be happy with it. I don't understand why they just don't make a gatorade with less sugar instead of adding way too much aspertine or whatever that sweetener in it is.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, don't you ban spammers?
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 27, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha...
That comment about G2 came outta nowhere.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although, I just read what they actually say...
I guess he's working for Gatorade's competition.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 27, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TUESDAYS WITH MORRIE IS A
MODERN AMERICAN CLASSIC IT IS AWESOME
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thornton
was just gonna say how good he has looked as of late and then now hes getting slapped around.
Also, can anyone comment on whats been up with Dotel lately? I havent been able to catch any of the games.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 27, 2008 3:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dotel has been getting
roughed up a tad. He will be just fine once the season starts.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Like Masset
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am sure
Ozzie is on to his third back of sunflower seeds by now.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 27, 2008 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard on ESPN
Last night they since switching to the NL did not help Zito out than Haren would struggle too. Half of the people on this board could do a better job than these jokers.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 27, 2008 3:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate espn
i try to watch it as little as i can because i cant stand how stupid some of the people they hire are. its gotten a little ridiculous as of late as they'll just hire anyone with a name even though they know less about what their talking about than anyone on this board.
by Jbasic89 on Mar 27, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zito
Wouldn't be that great in the AL either right now.
Switching to the NL typically helps a pitcher because NL teams do not have the DH and the pitcher bats. Also, look at the AL right now and some of those offenses compared to the NL.
Santana should have an unbelievable year for the Mets this year and I think Haren will have a great year too.
Zito was one of the worst signings in the history of the game.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 27, 2008 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Neagle and Mike Hampton come to mind, too
Who is the absolute WORST pitching fee-agent signing (other than Linebrink, who will have headaches all year and be on the "unable to perform" list all season) of all time?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 27, 2008 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Brown was pretty bad
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 27, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
worst pitcher signings
Chan Ho Park was pretty horrendous
by boyonthedock on Mar 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl Pavano, Hideki Irabu
Two Yankees, music to my ears
by onthemark12 on Mar 27, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time you had a headache
and were "unable to perform"? (Insert Viagra joke here)
I thought that was supposed cure headaches.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Mar 27, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
back in the day
mark davis. matt young. not as much money, even in today's terms, nor as long. but pretty darn bad.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone...
watching the game on MLBTV?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because...
it's kinda choppy for me and was wondering if it was just my crappy campus connection.
My Cubs fan friend and I played the Hawk/DJ drinking game during the Cubs/White Sox game 2 weeks ago. We threw in some extra rules... such as whenever the opposing team scored we had to drink, and whenever an inning passed that our team did not score we had to drink. Any Hawkism resulted in a drink, and any reference to Yaz resulted in having to down a beer.
Home Runs were deadly. As you had to drink for every Stretch!, the Put it on the board!, and the runs scored.
We were tanked.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah ok. I just figured it was the internet here.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you are drunk again?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 27, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soon, Bobby, soon.
It is college night, after all.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 hits
We are in mid season form already.
by southsideirish71 on Mar 27, 2008 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And 3 errors.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we are consistent.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Mar 27, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quentin does have a good eye.
Nice to see someone try to take a walk.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and only swing at good pitches
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah!
Points! Lyon about tripped over that bat. Don't see that happen often.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
spring avgs
Swisher - .246
Cabrera - .206
Thome - .254
Dye - .197
AJ - .259
Crede - .179
Going to be great year!
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And Peavy and Bedard have
awful spring ERA's. I should probably trade them in my fantasy league for middle relief. :)
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
two points
I don't buy that spring stats don't mean zilch -
1. If you are a good hitter then you should be able to hit no matter what time of year. Especially against guys who are not everyday major leaguers trying to make a team. If anything, they should have higher avgs. Looking awful at plate in spring or in season still is looking awful.
2. Normally, I would agree. But given the atrocious offense last year, it doesn't make you feel any better that this year would be different if the numbers are still down.
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll let someone else field this one.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I can think of about 4 reasons off the top of my head
why they don't matter
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean like, um, because the games don't count?
And exhibition statistics don't go on the back of baseball cards?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Mar 27, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That... and...
1) The players haven't seen pitching in 4-5 months.
2) Small sample size.
3) The people guaranteed of a roster spot don't care whether they get a good pitch to hit, they are either experimenting or just trying to get their swings in.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe that ST stats matter,
or are fair predictors of season-long output, then you expect Craig Counsell to hit somewhere around .485 for the season.
The at-bats that regulars get during ST equate to roughly 15-20 4-AB regular season games, or about 10% of a season. People slump, people get hot.
by onthemark12 on Mar 27, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if spring dont mean zilch
then why is there that stat floating around that no team with a losing record in spring has made playoffs? meanwhile, someone posted that '05 ST the team led almost every game into the late innings
its an indication of the ability of the individual/team. does it translate to respective failure/success either way? no, not 100%. is it an indication? yes
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
floating stats like that need to be swatted down
you know, because they're not true.
the moment you come up with the statistically significant correlation between ST stats and the regular season, let us know.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you are completely indifferent...
1. if everyone on the team bats below .250
2. everyone on the team mashes and bats above .320
that doesnt concern you either way?
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm certainly not concerned either way.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. ST stats hold no predictive value.
The only thing to glean is in watching mechanics, but that's hardly an easy task.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pooper Scooper
Phillies 11-18 in '07 and made the playoffs
Oakland 15-17 in '06 and made the playoffs
Sox 12-18 in '05 and won the WS
Are you seeing a pattern yet? ST records and stats mean NOTHING! Absolutely nothing!
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by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yankees in '06 as well.
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll see
offense sucked last year and it is not looking good this year
i hope i am proved wrong but you cannot tell me you are happy with the performances of dye, crede, cabrera
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you've already been proved wrong
thanks for playing.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
the season will indicate whether i'm right or wrong
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're not off to a good start, buddy.
but it's ST. idiotic posts are irrelevant.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't know i had to impress you larry
buddy
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a lot to learn
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumb Dumb Dumb.....SoB?
These posts should be in all caps
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
again, no.
we won't.
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's more like a community thing
trying to ward off the demons of stupidity
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether or not the Sox are successful this season has
nothing to do with spring training performance......
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perhaps.
but you were definitely wrong about ST records correlating to regular season. in addition to the others, the year the sox won the world series 5 of the 8 playoff teams had losing records in march.
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no it won't
correlation =\= causation
dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.
by colintj on Mar 27, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
i don't even know what the performance of those players is. because it's irrelevant.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I step away for 15 minutes and all hell broke lose.
Now that was some funny stuff. Scop that stuff has been studied forward and backwards. Let it go.
by Tdogg on Mar 27, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
these guys so easily riled up. entertaining at the very least
regardless, still would like to see certain players performing better - no matter what time of year.
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you see the difference, though, right?
it's one thing to say...i wish that swisher, etc. hit better in spring training because then i would be happy and be able to dream of unicorns and the tooth fairy at night...and quite another to say...i wish swisher, etc. hit better in spring training because the fact that they haven't means they won't hit well during the season.
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cracking me up Toonder
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That stuff has been studied front and backwards.
Get a new cause. I know we all watch but its really because we are sick f*cks.
by Tdogg on Mar 27, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Brian was frozen on that curveball. And then jawed at the Umpire. Glad to see things haven't changed much :)
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mid-season form
May I just say, gentleman, that it does appear many of you are already in mid-season form.
Plenty of lol comments - I suppose Masset pitching and a Moby Dick reference will do that for you. A refreshing from the recent bickering none the less. Many thanks!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on Mar 27, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this true? No losing ST team has never made the playoffs? Cheat help..........
by gamara21 on Mar 27, 2008 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That seems like...
crap to me.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 27, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course it's not true
christ.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See 2005; Chicago White Sox for just one example....
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here....
http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/bp/1518849.html
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Article from a BP analyst.
Shows no statistically significant correlation between Spring/Regular season W/L records.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, yeah, sure, so you're one of those guys...
who like proof rather than floating statistics.
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Clinton quote...
made me laugh out loud. What a pompous ass.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 27, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
give her a break...
she was caught off-guard by an unfair question during a rapid-fire exchange when she made the "misstatement." oh, wait...
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
floating statistic
I heard DJ say something like: It's been a long time since a team with a losing ST record won it all. Made me wonder.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by The Scoper on Mar 27, 2008 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a word to the wise...
consider the source (dj, not hazymania). have you ever heard the guy provide "commentrary" during a game? you're going to trust what he says?
"This has been a very long campaign so, occasionally I am a human being like everybody else. Last week for the first time in 12 or so years, I misspoke."
by Toonderstrook on Mar 27, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
That's why I asked in the first place. I tried looking it up myself, but so many of the guys (and girls?) on here are so much quicker at finding that stuff than I am. As soon as he said that, I knew there was something wrong with it. Regardless, it's been proven countless times that DJ is hardly a quality broadcaster, this is just another example.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we could probably make a list 15 or 20 items deep regarding shit those two say
that is completely false. and i'm not even getting into things that are arguably opinion like "we missed pablo ozuna because he is full of energy" or "freddy lynn had the most bulbous cock i've eva seen."
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i mean a list every game
over a season, he he, i dunno, dj.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is your freakin' avatar, counselor?
A Buckely pose is SO you. Easy. Be part of the team, fer Chrissakes.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 27, 2008 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't like avatars
i have them blocked.
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by larry on Mar 27, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, THAT is so Buckley
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 27, 2008 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just posted the Sox 2005 ST record as 14-18
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 27, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see...
Oney get an AB.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Mar 27, 2008 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am glad we drafted Carrie Schueler v 2.0
Oney's college stats.
He hit .227 in 2006, with a .293 OBP, and he slugged (LOL) .253. WOW. He had 26 Errors with a .882 fielding percentage.
Carrie says hello to Oney
Here is a quote from his time in a collegiate summer league.
He's a sophomore from North Park University in Chicago. He hit .190 and committed 23 errors in 47 games as a second baseman for the Thunder Bay Border Cats (Ontario, Canada) of the North Woods League in 2006 (the NWL is a collegiate summer league).
by southsideirish71 on Mar 27, 2008 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know how bad North Park is at baseball? Absolutely terrible...
In fact, they are horrible at every sport in that conference. You could have drafted every player on the team that won the CCIW that year and they would have been better than Oney.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had the pleasure of facing them once in college
I faced them once back in college. I went 5 innings, gave up one hit, and struck out 14. Now granted I was cheating by making the ball move, and changing speeds. But I am certain that I could of just pumped in fastball after fastball and would of gotten a similar result. But watching them fall over when I broke off a breaking pitch after 2 strikes was too much fun. The only teams worse than they were that I had faced, Trinity Christian in Palos Heights and Concordia.
by southsideirish71 on Mar 27, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha....
Yea, I played football at IWU. Nothing like facing North Park. They always made you feel like an All-Star.
Kinda like a chick with small hands.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 27, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the line of the week, Bo.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 27, 2008 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tags
Could we have the starting pitchers for each game as a tag?
by shaftr on Mar 27, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Weather for Monday in Cleveland.
High: 54 °F
Cloudy with a couple of showers and thunderstorms possible.
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?
by ballyb on Mar 27, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just heard it from Hawk
"If this is the first spring training game, you have missed Jerry Owens. When he was in there he picked up from where he left off last year where he showed that he is a solid major leaguer. He had a slight tear of the groin, then came back. And he I tell you covered every possible part of the centerfield ground out there. With him in the leadoff spot this is a completely different and dynamic offense"
Okay I did throw up after I heard it on the replay broadcast. That god jessie has speed. Speed doesnt slump.
by southsideirish71 on Mar 27, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Speed may not slump
but groins sure do.
I'll bring the awesome.
by Hazymania on Mar 27, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same stuff they spewed with pablo/pods/erstad out
You know DJ, this team really misses (insert name), he's that spark that just gets the team going... blah blah blah
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 27, 2008 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team misses talent...
Actually if you imagine substituting "talent" for "Jerry Owens" Hawk's paean becomes much more listenable:
"With talent in the leadoff spot this is a completely different and dynamic offense" -- Who could argue with that?
by hitlesswonder on Mar 27, 2008 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
So instead of a big splash, there were ripples -- enough to change the tide, Williams believes
by Brush Back on Mar 28, 2008 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
dynamic is not in this teams vocabulary!
by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 28, 2008 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
the old "South Side Hit Men" were DYNAMIC!
by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 28, 2008 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
if the rose colored glasses were taken off for alot of people. They'd face the fact that this team has'nt been dynamic for the last 1.5 years. I consider a team that can't mount an attack of 3 to 5 runs in an inning, on a somewhat consistent basis. A less than dynamic team. The only time this team is somewhat dynamic is when Thome's hot and he's batting against a RH'd pitcher!
by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 28, 2008 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i have doubt
how do i combat it to reach your level of no doubt.
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by larry on Mar 28, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
the no doubt I've reached is beyond any no doubt ever recorded. Seriously tho, i hope this team has a good year for Kenny Williams sake. But the gap between the wannabee's and the hasbeens is just too great! And the solid athletic position players to fill the gap, are sorely missing!
by SoxfaninAZ on Mar 28, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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