Rambling Before Opening Day
I was going to sit down and write a top 10 list -- Top 10 reasons to watch the White Sox this season, or something like that -- but it looks like Jim beat me to the punch with his 10 post-spring training concerns.
As I noted in the comments section over there, I would have added Bobby Jenks to the list. We spent much of our time prior to the '06 and '07 seasons discussing Jenks' lack of spring velocity and conditioning, only to have him come through with solid seasons even without the 100 MPH heater that he swears he still has. It's almost all superstition that has me wanting to add Jenks to the list, but there's a little bit of me who's worried about those poor spring peripherals.
Anyway, no Top 10 list for me. I'll just do some 14-hours until first pitch rambling and call it a post.
Ramblin' time
- Let's start with optimism... With the exception of his penultimate spring outing, John Danks has taken a step forward. The cutter seems to have added the groundball to his skillset, and if he can throw strikes, he'll have a surprisingly good year. Surprising in that he beats all projections and ends up as an average or better pitcher.
- The same goes for Jose Contreras. He's got more velocity than he's had since May '06. He's coming over the top more. His fastball seems to have more movement than it did last season. It just looks like he's returned to being an asset instead of a liability. I expect either he or Danks is going to have a very good year, a solid #3 type year, with the other falling into the solid #4 category of average innings eater.
- With Buehrle and Vazquez as known quantities atop the rotation, that leaves Floyd, whose spring has caused me to lose some of my optimism. He had a much better spring than last year, and he doesn't seem to be afraid of the zone. But that still doesn't seem like enough to be anything more than below average starter who gets hit too much and gives up too many HRs. Of the three question marks in the rotation, Floyd seems the most likely disappoint.
- Nick Swisher is leading off and playing left field (unless Ozzie changes his mind, again) against Cleveland Monday. Last year it was Pablo Ozuna. I'd say that's an upgrade.
- I've got a bad feeling that Alexei Ramirez will have a .270 OBP after 120 at-bats before the Sox start to question their decision to bring him north.
- I've got a worse feeling that those at-bats are going to come at the expense of Brian Anderson and Carlos Quentin, each of whom seem on the cusp of reaching their once highly regarded potential.
- Charlotte has too many major league caliber players, which wouldn't be a problem if Chicago didn't have too few.
- This post contained no mention of Nick Masset.
I could go on. And I probably will later. But we're a little more than 13 hours from first pitch, and I need some sleep. Go Sox!
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"I've got a bad feeling that Alexei Ramirez...."
With you.
Worse than .270 would be .301 OBP and they stick with him.
He needs to acclimate to the US.
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?
by ballyb on Mar 31, 2008 6:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just bought MLB.tv
I will listen to the game online today, but I can't wait until Wednesday when I actually get to watch the game. I'm going to hook my laptop to my tv.
by shaftr on Mar 31, 2008 7:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cheat, do you or SB Nation
update the rosters on the left rail? It's a little behind the times...
Happy Opening Day!
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 7:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Brian Anderson and Carlos Quentin, each
of whom seem on the cusp of reaching their once highly regarded potential."
Cheat, didn't know you felt that way about BA.
Please expound if you will.
Was that a ground out to 2nd for Owens?
by ballyb on Mar 31, 2008 8:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I thought it was only the 2 of us.
Though I try not to express my optimism publicly (too often).
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't the game thread be up by now? Instead
of this valentine to Bally?
Sheesh.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are the voice of agitation for game threads
sheesh, give the man a break. he invariably gets it posted in time for the game part of the game thread.
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we pay good money....
oh, wait....no we don't.
Whenever you are ready, Wiz! Take your time!
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not up to me!
patience chiburb!
by The Wizard on Mar 31, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He knows I'm kidding.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you should know i am
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll I think his potential is what we thought it was in '06
As a prospect I was never a big Brian Anderson fan. Sure I ranked him #1 in the Sox system at one point, but that's just because the Sox don't/didn't have a great system. And CY still had major question marks about his K-rate...
If Anderson got 400 at-bats this season, sitting against tough righties, we'd see him post a .270/.320/.440 line... That's what I mean by potential.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 31, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean that you think brian anderson
can post a .270/.320/.440 line?
by The Wizard on Mar 31, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does $118,261,000 get you?
we'll soon begin to know.
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/03/sundays-workout.html
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel good about Ramirez...
It seems like players and coaches are both excited about his talents.
"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca
by BoKnows on Mar 31, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same way
My fan's opinion is . . . . ROY!
by Option27 on Mar 31, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love today . . . .
If the game is actually played!
by Option27 on Mar 31, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that the above is a representative
cross-section of opinions but it sure seems we are all over the map on this season. I like it - lively (even personal) discussion/confrontation is like iron sharpening iron. We can finally get to some actual action and start to give the skeletal speculations some flesh.
I am excited, regardless. I told my wife last night, "See you in 6 months!". (I tend to fall asleep in the non-bedroom during baseball season.) Anyone playing hooky today?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am!
cant wait to watch the game. i've only seen about 3 pre-season innings, so im def ready for this.
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 31, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to go ahead...
...and be a mark. I'm all about Ramirez this year.
I haven't been around SSS much since the '06 season but damned if I'm not crazy excited about a new baseball season.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 31, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
I thought everyone here was all about Ramirez until just now! That's just the nature of this time of year though.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Mar 31, 2008 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome Back
I was AWOL through 2007 as well but I figure these kids need some old-school guidance.
by Landfill on Mar 31, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, I was kicked off again
Has happened twice in the last week. Anyone other than larry having posts disappearing?
Landfill, I had asked how "old-school" you are. Go-Go Sox, SS Hitmen, or Winning Ugly?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about
The Kids Can Play?
hahahahahha
12/12/07- We'll miss you Andy Gonzalez
by The Deacon on Mar 31, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pudge, Kitty, Dot and Harold For Mayor
I remember the Hitmen but the 1983 team was the one that first broke my heart. It was the 1984 team that drove home the ultimate fatalism of being a Sox fan. You're of the same generation, yes?
by Landfill on Mar 31, 2008 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the Go-Go's very vaguely,
but the '68 Sox broke my heart (after a Horlen no-no, to boot). Learned to HATE the Yankees and BoSux.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'64, '67, '72 were heartbreakers too...
And my favorite team was the SS Hitmen of '77. You truly couldn't beat fun at the old ballpark that year! Not heartbreaking like the others, just fun.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I dug that team
and Comiskey's ambience that year. Harry/Piersall, Falstaff beer, shower in CF, etc. What a blast. Goosebumps just thinking about it.
Love is in the air.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland weather:
Looks like the rain holds off 'till 5:00 EDT, with a gametime temp of 56, windchill in the upper 40s, and a strong (15 MPH) breeze blowing straight out from the South.
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Btw, it's no longer Jacobs Field
It's Progressive Park, which sounds like a good liberal name. Or like a brand of soup...
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ProgressO, you non-Italian!
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Mar 31, 2008 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every night, going to bed, I ask "where did the day go"?
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how I love today
People who will most likely watch less than 30 games in-full this year walking around decked out in there Cubbie, Brewer, Cardinal and White Sox gear with the occassional Twinkie, Yankee or Red Sox hat thrown in. Podsednik! Soriano! Crede!
But seriously... today is always a wonderful day, regardless of the actual chances the Sox have this season.
by CWSKeith on Mar 31, 2008 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't stop believing
I'm still sticking to that theme song
by Option27 on Mar 31, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Podsednik was overrated.
I still have his jersey and I still wear it. I don't care what you haters say, he'll always have 2005.
by Raf on Mar 31, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean "half of 2005", right?
Next time, Bhoov, do some research.
by Chiburb on Mar 31, 2008 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mismanaged
Has any player been more mismanaged than Brian Andersen? He plays all of '06 while the sox are in contention even though he couldn't hit, relegated to the minors in '07 when the sox are retooling and after a decent spring in which he shows some signs of life at the plate as well as some power he ends up playing behind Ramirez.
I'm at a loss on Ramirez in center. They have Owens, Andersen, Quentin and Swisher for left and center. I can understand keeping ramirez on the club while richar and owens are on the D/L but playing him ahead of andersen and quentin makes no sense.
by shamroc on Mar 31, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think people forget that
we once traded for Carl Everett to play center field while Rowand was hitting over .300 and playing a plus defensive CF.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 31, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i did forget that
considering that wasn't the case, at least with respect to his offense. i think you're mixing up 03 and 04.
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.219/.279/.354
is close enough ;)
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 31, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
shoot
i didn't know it was that bad.
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cuz
he hit .393/.406/.607 in very limitted time the rest of the year
AIM: SouthSideCheat
by The Cheat on Mar 31, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
i was just going off my recollection of rowands stats from those years and that rowand's "good year" was 2004 and carl certainly didn't play center that year regularly (if at all? frank got hurt and so did maggs so he was DH or RF, as i recall).
the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.
by larry on Mar 31, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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