Juan Uribe is the front-runner for the 2nd base job
[Scott Merkin]:
With that thought in mind, the White Sox manager plans to use Ramirez more regularly at second over the final 17 Cactus League games.
"Second base is a different position," Guillen told a reporter after Sunday's loss to the Padres. "From now on, we're going to put him more at second base to get him used to it and to see how we can help him to do that."
Guillen reaffirmed that Ramirez will be in the starting mix at this position, although Juan Uribe appears to be the front-runner when factoring in Danny Richar's back injury and Ramirez's defensive inexperience. Pablo Ozuna will not start at second because he is too valuable as a utility infielder.
Ozuna played shortstop on Sunday and could find action from third to first during the regular season.
"It has to be an extreme emergency to put him back in the outfield," said Guillen of Ozuna. "I just want him to concentrate on the infield."
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Poreda tomorrow?
I sincerely hope Ramirez can pick up 2B.
By the way, why is Ozuna being tried out at 3B and 1B? I mean I know he was garbage in the OF last year (I recall some humorous misjudgments...) but isn't it a waste of ST time to play him at the corner? Ozzie won't seriously play him at 1B and 3B during the season... will he?!
by Shoeless In SC on Mar 9, 2008 11:43 PM CDT 0 recs
just in case?
Was it Timo Perez that took first after Ozzie said, "anybody can play first base; you just stand there and catch the ball"-- and then he promptly missed a throw when he got spooked by the runner coming up the line?
by ruffster on
Mar 10, 2008 9:02 AM CDT
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So we moved our problem a good 50 feet
Unf____ing believable...
Batting order wise as long as the Sox have to plug him in at #8 or #9 it makes it so a young player, who needs the major league at bats, can't be slotted into the line up - at any position - without risking a really weak bottom of the order.
by MarkD on Mar 9, 2008 11:52 PM CDT 0 recs
Yep, just think about how stupid...
Garland, Uribe at SS, and Ramirez/Richar at 2B
OR
No Garland, Cabrera at SS, and Uribe at 2B
With Ozzie's predictable lineup, it looks like a stupid trade now. Hell, even the Quentin trade looks stupid now due to the same reason -- Ozzie and his love of bad players.
by SSH2005 on
Mar 9, 2008 11:59 PM CDT
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Goofy
So now you have weaker defense at SS, and you still have Uribe in the lineup. Nate Silver said in the Trib yesterday that KW's on the hot seat, this nonsense in the middle of the IF won't help his situation any.
by ChicagoPete on
Mar 10, 2008 8:04 AM CDT
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Oh, if Nate Silver said it...
KW will have a job as long as Reinsdorf is alive.
by Winning is Fung on
Mar 10, 2008 8:13 AM CDT
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KW will have a job as long as Reinsdorf is alive.
The next Reinsdorf (in the succession) is alive.
That's the way it works, e.g., two Wirtz's then....... reason.
by ballyb on
Mar 10, 2008 8:29 AM CDT
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I dunno
by ChicagoPete on
Mar 10, 2008 11:24 AM CDT
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he said something to the effect of
by larry on
Mar 10, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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Here's the quote
by ChicagoPete on
Mar 10, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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i'm not sure there's multiple ways to read it
by larry on
Mar 10, 2008 11:46 AM CDT
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Well, my two sense
So I would say, yeah, I agree that this guy should be worried about his job if this team finishes below .500 - even Krause had to go eventually.
by ChicagoPete on
Mar 10, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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I still dont see how it's KW's fault that everyone
one thing folks were sure would be solid. From my perspective, KW still hasn't failed significantly and the Swisher trade was excellent. As for JO and Uribe, they expected to have healthy former dbacks in those spots. That's why they gave up assets to get them. Richar's brain and back crapped out and Quentin is still working through this shoulder thing. Its very "wait and
see", but you have to like this offseason especially if alexei proves to be an average contributor up the middle. Hell, even the Cabrera deal has a chance of being great; Garland gave up a huge number of line drives last year and both larry and I wondered aloud (the diary's still there) if he hadn't finally lost that special skill of his. I think KW probably sold as high as he could have on Garland and turned that into a year of OC and
hopefully the subsequent picks.
by colintj on
Mar 10, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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Add the bullpen debacle and .......
by ballyb on
Mar 10, 2008 1:13 PM CDT
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right and we finally started to get pulled back to
by colintj on
Mar 10, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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My main concern
I don't see how KW can improve this team. He's run out of assets.
by ChicagoPete on
Mar 10, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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Anyone who heard Joey Cora's interview...
by SSH2005 on Mar 9, 2008 11:52 PM CDT 0 recs
So the 9-1 hitters are going to be....
Fuck
by Tony82087 on Mar 9, 2008 11:59 PM CDT 0 recs
Now you know why I am so pessimistic...
by SSH2005 on
Mar 10, 2008 12:01 AM CDT
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hopefully owens
by Jbasic89 on
Mar 10, 2008 12:06 AM CDT
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We agree again...
But playing Owens makes giving up Carter for Quentin pointless. And playing Uribe makes trading Garland and Cunningham pointless. I actually like Uribe, so it pains me to admit that he just can't get on base. So much so that he shouldn't be starting. Especially at 2B where a number of decent veteran bats could have been acquired as free agents for little money (like Iguchi). Instead, the Sox traded Garland and managed to downgrade their SS/2B combo from a year ago.
by hitlesswonder on
Mar 10, 2008 1:02 AM CDT
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I will give the benefit of the doubt
But does anyone understand the concept of injury? Are you guys seriously bitching about 2 players- not playing that uh can't play.
I hate feeling like I am defending the White Sox all the time, I do. But when I see post after post saying the same things over and over again - ignoring the most basic concepts it becomes difficult.
by Tdogg on
Mar 10, 2008 9:20 AM CDT
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neither richar or ramirez
just wait until, i don't know, pitchers start actually game-planning for hitters. then you'll see how great ramirez would be facing major league pitching regularly.
by larry on
Mar 10, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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If the pitchers start game planning
by Brush Back on
Mar 10, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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many will look fine
by larry on
Mar 10, 2008 9:43 AM CDT
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Man I hope your wrong Larry
We only ever get people off injury concerns or nobody have seen except in obsure video (Iguchi) when everyone has a chance at it.
by Tdogg on
Mar 10, 2008 10:12 AM CDT
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i think he will be fine
one thing that seemed to work in the sox favor this offseason was the extremely soft middle infield market. why take a flyer on a guy like ramirez when you can sign a more known quantity like adam kennedy (or whomever)? i think teams also expect the market to continue to be deep (at least at the more "average" level - of course the hanleys, reyes', jeters et al will be difficult to procure).
by larry on
Mar 10, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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how much were the known quantities getting per
by colintj on
Mar 10, 2008 12:57 PM CDT
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eckstein got 4.5
by The Deacon on
Mar 10, 2008 1:07 PM CDT
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Not because they can't play
by Brush Back on
Mar 10, 2008 9:37 AM CDT
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To start the season guys.....
Because of the injuries they'll probably have to get 100% healthy, go down to AAA and then once they're playing well bring them up. I'll complain if it's 2 months from now and they're dominating AAA while Uribe and Owens flounder. Until then? Hey injuries happen. Go with what you have until the other guys are healthy.
by bhoov on Mar 10, 2008 1:33 AM CDT 0 recs
Thank you for reason.
by Tdogg on
Mar 10, 2008 9:20 AM CDT
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Yep, you can usually count on Bhoov
He's almost always right, and appreciated.
by Chiburb on
Mar 10, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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wow
by The Deacon on Mar 10, 2008 8:26 AM CDT 0 recs
Now you guys all realize why I am
I am not as shocked like you guys get when you find out Uribe is our 2B and Owens our CF.
I figured that would happen, and this is just further confirmation of that cr*p I am going to have to go through all year.
by BobbySouthSide on
Mar 10, 2008 10:19 AM CDT
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i stayed pretty connected all weekend
I hope you have better luck once you get your blackberry...
by Nordhagen on
Mar 10, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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Hell, no one could stop him
Powerlessness - it's a beeyatch.
by winningugly on
Mar 10, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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i really dont put too much stock into
OT, what do you think of aaron rodgers? are the packers going to bring in some veteran help (if they havent already)?
by The Deacon on
Mar 10, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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rodgers
I foresee him needing a "change-of-scenery" trade in about 2 yrs...
by Nordhagen on
Mar 10, 2008 3:20 PM CDT
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offensively
by The Deacon on
Mar 10, 2008 3:37 PM CDT
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its a good cast
Incidentally, I watched the '96 Super Bowl on the NFL Network yesterday. I had forgotten just how well Favre threw the ball (and how mobile he was!). And seeing Reggie run over guys was awesome.
by Nordhagen on
Mar 10, 2008 4:11 PM CDT
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Wow!
http://dealstudio.com/searchdeals.php?deal_id=89563&ru=279 , now I even want to meet him so badly and interview him about the matches, myself! Come on Uribe!
by Pollyhelp630 on Mar 10, 2008 8:47 AM CDT 0 recs
It's the truth. He can carry a team.
by ballyb on
Mar 10, 2008 9:16 AM CDT
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The only thing he can carry at this point
by southsideirish71 on
Mar 10, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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Cunningham hurt
by The Cheat on Mar 10, 2008 10:53 AM CDT 0 recs
... head first slide?
Chet Lemon Lives!
I can't believe how many MLB players slide head first... Matt Holliday did it in the post-season last year... into home plate! Got a face full of strawberry to show for it.
by ruffster on
Mar 10, 2008 12:19 PM CDT
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But he got the benefit of the doubt
In the same spirit, have you seen that 2 Rays players (C. Crawford and some scrub trying to make the team) have gone shoulder-first into home during their ST games this last week? I think one of the teams was the Spanks, since Girardi supoosedly has said there is NO bowling over catchers during ST (former catcher empathising with his former peer group).
I like it - Rays getting feisty!
by winningugly on
Mar 10, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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My brothers foot did a 180 sliding into home once
by marco054 on
Mar 10, 2008 2:10 PM CDT
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Crede - he gone!
Only problem is Crede hasn't played that well or the deal would've been done already. But, now he's holding out for one of them to give up something decent which is what this posturing is about.
Crede will not be on the roster and Fields is done in Charlotte.
by White Sox Randy on Mar 10, 2008 11:02 AM CDT 0 recs
Owens in the SunTimes re. his groin.
by ballyb on Mar 10, 2008 11:50 AM CDT 0 recs
Owens must be flexible
Zing!
by rhythm on
Mar 10, 2008 12:03 PM CDT
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Perhaps he's a glass blower
Ba-da-BUMP.
by winningugly on
Mar 10, 2008 2:00 PM CDT
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What's funny about Owens...
by SSH2005 on Mar 10, 2008 12:27 PM CDT 0 recs
mancrush...
by Shoeless In SC on
Mar 10, 2008 5:28 PM CDT
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mancrush indeed!
by The Wizard on
Mar 10, 2008 6:34 PM CDT
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A word from the 'Gooch'
Asked if Guillen was a big reason why, Iguchi said, ''Including Ozzie but mainly Uribe.''
Ironically, the Sox are still trying to iron out their second-base job, but Iguchi made a prediction on who he felt would take the spot he occupied for more than 2½ years.
''I feel like the guy that's always eating a banana will be at second base,'' said Iguchi, referring to Uribe's fondness for bananas and other fruit.
by The Wizard on Mar 10, 2008 1:00 PM CDT 0 recs
I miss Tad : /
by colintj on
Mar 10, 2008 1:10 PM CDT
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banana eh?
by jeeves on
Mar 10, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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Is that a racial thing?
I mean, can't we all get along?
by winningugly on
Mar 10, 2008 2:04 PM CDT
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Maybe Ichiro and Iguchi...
That's a wonderful quote, by the way.
by CWSKeith on
Mar 10, 2008 2:49 PM CDT
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