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Game 10: White Sox (5-4) vs. Tigers (2-8)

Detroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox, Apr 12, 2008 12:05 PM CDT


Gavin Floyd (RHP) vs. Justin Verlander (RHP)

Time: 12:05 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)


Pitching Matchup

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Gavin Floyd 1-0 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.0 6 3 3 1 2 2 4.50 1.33
Justin Verlander 0-1 2 2 0 0 0 0 11.2 11 13 8 2 4 10 6.17 1.29



GO SOX!

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sWISH!

Is in the line-up....Easy win today.

Bringing the awesome?I'm down!

by Swish30 on Apr 12, 2008 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

cold

39 with light rain... but comcast said it should start on time

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

ballyb will lend you his silk long johns if you're going to the game

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's...

39 Degrees and light rain...No delay expected.

Bringing the awesome?I'm down!

by Swish30 on Apr 12, 2008 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Barring him gettingb hurt

I think he'll be on the Sox this season..before September. Not that I think he's going to be effective in the bigs but it's a good bet that one of the Sox starters gets hurt or Contreras/Floyd is so bad they get moved to the pen. I think Broadway will do well enough in AAA that he'll be the one called up. Too bad Egbert got hurt.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 12, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fields is playing well now

4-4 last night, .308 .419 .500 .919

If Thome's injured it's nice to have him ready to step in.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stupid FOX blackout...

means I can't watch this game today.

Grumble grumble grumble...

Oh well. It's 75 degrees and sunny here today. Maybe I'll go outside later.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 12, 2008 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Lead off walk

to someone who hasn't walked in 21 PAs

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

whew. Bad pitch, good D

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 12, 2008 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmm

Second time I have seen Swisher not realize right away he popped it up in the field of play.
He should take some lessons from Joe. Joe knows exactly where his pop-ups go.

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

remember the good old days

all the way back to Opening Day, when the Sox didn't try to pull every pitch?
seems like months ago when they actually went with a pitch.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 12, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Toby Hall put on a clinic in opposite-field hitting yesterday.

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

PK, too

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

bartender just squealed over Joe

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 12, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow... didn't know why they had Shef running

until I looked up his stolen bases. 22 for 27 last year? Career high? At age 38? I don't particularly like the guy but that is impressive stuff.

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

God that must be cold

good thing those people are drinking some Stay Warm Juice

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Swisher

Whats up with the bandage on swisher's chin?

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 12, 2008 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Cut himself making beard architecture?

lets hope haha

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

he wanted to honer rowand

by thecip on Apr 12, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

did he bust it

diving for that ball?

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 12, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

WAIT A MINUTE

that's not a bandage at all! What the hell?

Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser?BOOSE BONZER?

by Lakeman on Apr 12, 2008 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

From his journal:

"Okay…let’s cut to the chase ... I’m sporting a blonde goatee ... don’t worry folks ... it’s temporary. You know, it’s not easy to bleach dark brown/black hair to blonde without turning that orange color ... how do you ladies do it?"

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love

listening to DJ talk about the laughter of a child.

by rhombusface on Apr 12, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I love

How DJ was advocating that parents just let the kids run to the Hawk...

...and his van with no windows in the back.

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

DP!

anothor DP saves the Sox

by blackSox07 on Apr 12, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Gavin is getting out of all sorts of trouble...

but he's still not as painful to watch pitch as Contreras.

by SSH2005 on Apr 12, 2008 12:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Contreras

Put him back on his damn raft

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

so if LF or 1B the future for miggy?

first time ever over there.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

He looked pretty good stretching out for that Crede play.

But I guess that would fall under the category of small sample size

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orlando Cabrera shows some power...

1-0 Sox on a solo shot into the Sox bullpen.

by SSH2005 on Apr 12, 2008 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

wow. just wow.

go away.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, wishing injury on a player

nothing really bad.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

i should have said to argue balls and strikes again and get tossed

by thecip on Apr 12, 2008 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looked clueless

On a belt high flat fastball. I don't think pitchers are very afraid of him ...

by rhombusface on Apr 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Demoralize the Tigers more!

Come on, you can do it guys

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I never heard that nickname.

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess i am, too

doesn't really look like a whale to me.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

i prefer o-cab

makes way more sense than calling someone a whale, especially when they aren't a large female.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't claim credit

somebody else here in SSS came up with it

by The Wizard on Apr 12, 2008 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bye-bye Gavin....

hello Lance (by first week of May).

by stanchar on Apr 12, 2008 12:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That was absolutely filthy...

I'm at work right now and me and another co-worker yelled out, "Holy Shit!!!" after watching that pitch by Gavin.

by SSH2005 on Apr 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes sir

He would be so much more effective if he had the command to throw it at any time

by 3E8 on Apr 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fricking Uribe

Uribe is so fun to watch in the field and such a nightmare at the plate. Great turn their by Joe and Juan. Watching the replay it looked like Maggs was safe, but I'll take it.

by madvillian on Apr 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

movement

Gavin really does have the pitch movement of a 1-2 type pitcher. And for the most part his control has been there today

by rhombusface on Apr 12, 2008 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Yahoo is out

I had to work today, how did our collective boyfriend Q do?

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

yahoo caught up

as soon as i posted that. Thanks though!

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Deacon

had a career OBP of .394 with the Sox. Never realized he was that good at the time.

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Newson...

came along just a few years too early to be really appreciated.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 12, 2008 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Deacon was an awesome pinch hitter

Seemed he always got something started.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm about to jinx him

But numbers wise Floyd looks good. How does he look on tv? sloppy?

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Well he almost let a new ball being thrown to him by the ump hit him in the face

Other than that he has looked alright, defense got him out of a few jams though too

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never have I wished I was at home more

to have seen that!

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

curveball

is mostly working. TIgers lineup looks pretty bad at times. Still struggles with control and command.

by madvillian on Apr 12, 2008 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

good god

crede and uribe slobber worship by DJ pretty annoying.

by madvillian on Apr 12, 2008 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Uribe struck out swinging

I wonder if the guy at Yahoo has that ready to go when he walks up

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

"100...

or more if he wants to"
I love Bobby too Hawk, but let's try to remain within your standard deviation of crazy today, ok?

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Bobby could throw the ball so hard

That it arrived in the catcher's mitt before it left his hand. *If* he wanted to. But I'd rather see him pitch.

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

i tuned in late, but i havent seen a good sox at bat yet. the offense went shitty with the weather, huh?

by MarketMaker on Apr 12, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

2007 preseason Thome comments from baseball prospectus

...Thome`s numbers speak for themselves, and the Peoria native looked as natural in Chicago as mustard (not ketchup!) on a Vienna Beef hot dog. That said, Thome has one of the more bipolar PECOTA profiles around. Half of his comparables, such as Willie McCovey, remained productive into their forties, while the other half, such as Jose Canseco, got injured one too many times and fell off the face of the earth(my emphasis). Then you have Frank Thomas, who has done a little bit of both. Both Thome and Thomas are as likely to hit 12 home runs this year as they are to hit 40.
====================

Here's his comparables from baseball reference:

1. Jose Canseco (886)
2. Carlos Delgado (871)
3. Manny Ramirez (860)
4. Juan Gonzalez (858)
5. Mark McGwire (834)
6. Duke Snider (834) *
7. Willie Stargell (832) *
8. Albert Belle (822)
9. Jack Clark (816)
10. Johnny Mize (814) *

Canseco, Juan Gone, McGwire, Albert - they all went vanished virtually overnight. Keep your fingers crossed for the Thomer, I got a bad feeling.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

I know

Didn't look right to me either, but I just copied and pasted. The link is there.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

and they all disappeared this year

it was the injury ravaged season that did it.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought he was using BP

BR's comps are silly.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

BP has a note saying that they're got some glitch with their comps

Do the years for these comparables look wrong? They are wrong!
Click here for the scoop. We'll have this fixed as soon as we can.

FWIW their #1 is Cliff Johnson. IIRC he dropped off a cliff (nyuk nyuk)

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's just the years

not the comps.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

last week cabrera was done

this week it's thome. keep it up. i'm sure one of these days you'll be right.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said Cabrera couldn't hit

I said his defense is weak. Hitting is streaky, defense is pretty much a constant. It's readily apparent OCab's defense is average at best.

Thome's got some major issues, he hasn't slumped like this in the new millenium.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

but hitting is streaky?

and thome has major issues. got it.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little early for panic

It's a rather small number of games to decide Thome can't hit anymore. Most of his bad comps stopped hitting because they got hurt. IF Thome is healthy, I expect an acceptable year.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 12, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

After 10 games he's hitting like Andy Gonzalez

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't say i really care

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

major dillema

do you leave him in to go for the no hitter or do you pull him. He is near 100

by gamara21 on Apr 12, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

No hitter

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it were to happen

Sorry for taking part in any jinxing... but if I believed I could really have any effect on the outcome of the game I wouldn't be working

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice work

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

you have to win the game. whatever is the best choice to do that.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 12, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Verlander?

Are you talking about Verlander? He doesn't have a no-hitter

by hitlesswonder on Apr 12, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon Gavin

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

5 more!

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

shit

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

oh well

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Who said it?

Which one of you brought it up?

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

you hate to see him lose it on that

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

done.

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Dammit...

That sucks. Awesome start by Gavin.

by SSH2005 on Apr 12, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I've been ducking in and out of the game but it looks like he had his slider going didn't he?

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

anything that pushes Jose

further (farther?) down in the rotation is fine with me.

www.tremendousupsidepotential.com

by Rickhouse on Apr 12, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Did he get applause?

guy needs confidence

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

no, they booed him

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

hehe

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

low opinion of sox fans, huh

we're not that dumb

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well c'mon

that hit barely counts anymore now!

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

No earned runs for Floyd, that's nice

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

err 1-6-3

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hells yeah.

That's the throw Sox pitchers airmailed last year.

by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Swisher walks

and the sun will come up tomorrow.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

we might see the rare complete game loss

and wouldn't it be nice for our pitcher not to be the one taking it?

by MarketMaker on Apr 12, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

they killed him

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

you bastards

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

you're in rare form today Larry... as usual.

Good thing O-Cab's a player... or that might have killed him.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

What was that noise?

Was that a velociraptor in the tiger's bullpen?

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

what in the hell is going on

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 12, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

baseball game

bunch of guys hitting a round ball with a round bat.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

always the life of the party, eh uncle lar?

gameday initially showed cabrera AND thome geting hit. and wouldn't today be more like a bunch of guys TRYING to hit a round ball with a bat? and since when is the bat round?

Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 12, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Git me over fastball

and he did something with it finally

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Pete.

A Thome LD sighting.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

I know, shocker

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

And with under 40 ABs

the LD% goes up several percetn

by 3E8 on Apr 12, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

2.5% to be exact

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 12, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

miggy highly mobile at first

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

herm has the better first step

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like a cargo ship

Once Herm gets going, it takes an enormous amount of reverse thrust to stop him

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh Game Cahnnel

Frozen for over 5 minutes

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by Six Pack on Apr 12, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah!

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

AJ? More like GREAT-J

by thecip on Apr 12, 2008 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Honestly I was gonna say this before the hit

but I was chompin on some Bacci's

Why exactly was Verlander pitching to AJ, a hot hitter with good numbers against him?

by CatBrains on Apr 12, 2008 2:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Jimmy stepped out to pick up a pack of Reds

Came back wondering the same thing.

"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'

by Hazymania on Apr 12, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

tigers bullpen has been absolutely abused

and verlander is probably better than the other options.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 12, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

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