Game 12: White Sox (7-4) vs. A's (8-5)
by The Wizard
on Apr 14, 2008 6:00 PM CDT
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Oakland Athletics @ Chicago White Sox
Mark Buehrle (LHP) vs. Greg Smith (LHP)
Time: 7:11 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)
GO SOX!
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It'll be interesting...
to see how the Sox offense handles this guy - a fringy lefty they haven't seen before.
If they score more than two runs off this guy, that'll be a sign that things have changed.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Apr 14, 2008 6:03 PM CDT
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the 5 BB he's given up are encouraging
But I agree with your drift.
Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote
by Chiburb on
Apr 14, 2008 6:17 PM CDT
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A's DFA Fernando Hernandez
[SFC]:
Saarloos back, Hernandez outFrom Chronicle Staff Writer Susan Slusser in Chicago
The A's kept Rule-5 draftee Jay Marshall all last year, but this year's Rule-5 pick, reliever Fernando Hernandez, didn't last the first month.
Hernandez had two rough outings on this trip, including allowing four runs at Cleveland on Sunday, and with the A's needing more depth in the bullpen, the right-hander was designated for assignment today and right-hander Kirk Saarloos was called up. Saarloos, a former 10-game winner for the A's and a clubhouse favorite, will be the long man for now.
Hernandez must go through waivers and if he clears, he must be offered back to the White Sox, and they can take him back for $25,000 if they choose. A's assistant GM David Forst said if Hernandez clears waivers, Oakland will have some talks with the White Sox, which means the team might be open to swinging a deal with Chicago to keep Hernandez.
by The Wizard on
Apr 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT
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What happens if he's claimed by another team?
Do the Sox get $ from team X? Does team X have to keep Hernandez on the major league roster?
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on
Apr 14, 2008 7:00 PM CDT
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They have to pay Oakland
And yes, he has to stay on the roster all year or be offered back to the Sox through the same process
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by The Cheat on
Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM CDT
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Nice start with several players doing well
this game will be a good test I pray Buerhle is excellent tonight.
by floridajim on
Apr 14, 2008 7:04 PM CDT
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Thome is a good enough hitter with bat contol
to learn to hit the ball to left-field, particularly when a shift is on. I did not see a shift on that at-bat however. But the thought is valid I believe.
by floridajim on
Apr 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT
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no. Was just going to say the same.
we'd be down 1-0
Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote
by Chiburb on
Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT
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Joe is playing super
Josh is also playing much better in the minors.
by floridajim on
Apr 14, 2008 7:29 PM CDT
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how do you know? He's hitting,
but how do you know how he's playing?
Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote
by Chiburb on
Apr 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT
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did buehrle
get out of the inning? gameday frozen.....
by gamara21 on
Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM CDT
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yes. Good d by Crede.
Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote
by Chiburb on
Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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yes
crede dived and got the 2nd out, then mark retired murphy
by The Wizard on
Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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Hawk: You know who was a sandbagger? Yaz
DJ: Oh really? (vomits into garbage pail in booth)
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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mlb is dead
.tv and gameday are all broken right now.
by shaftr on
Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT
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Hawk is alive and well on CSN
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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Luuuuuuck, be a lady toniiiiiiiiiiiight
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT
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You know who else was lucky?....Yaz
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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Working fine for me
in firefox, I had trouble with IE
by 3E8 on
Apr 14, 2008 7:44 PM CDT
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MLBTV is a f-ing joke
I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell
by chisox on
Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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any of you guys use the mosaic?
i couldnt figure out how to specify which game was where.
mlb.tv is pretty weak.
el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!
by e-gus on
Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT
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Odd inning
Isn't this kind of stuff usually what happens against *us* when we play Oakland? For once we get the benefit...
by vince_ on
Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT
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Nope
Hawk jinxed him, said clutch guys like Joe win MVPs.
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Apr 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT
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Jim Margolis of Sox Machine
gives daily updates of the Sox minor league teams. Fields started poorly but went 4/4 two days ago and 2/3 or so yesterday. Owens was o/8 after two games. Last year Baseball Reference had the daily stats but I have not checked them this year.
by floridajim on
Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT
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Looks like vintage Buehrle tonite
Working really fast. 2 1/2 innings in 33 minutes so far.
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT
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What's the over/under...
...on times Hawk says "one pitch/one out" after Uribe's AB this season?
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Apr 14, 2008 7:47 PM CDT
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Good thing Swish is under a 5yr contract
He's giving up a lot of RBIs batting leadoff behind Uribe's sub-.300 OBP, other sluggers would be beefing about that.
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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Fields fielding has not been mentioned by Sox Machine
and I do not know where to get the data, do you?
by floridajim on
Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM CDT
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Clearly we need more stolen base attempts
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by The Cheat on
Apr 14, 2008 7:50 PM CDT
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These guys obviously aren't grinding hard enough, time to rev up the SB machine
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT
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If you grind hard enough...
...outs turn into runs!
Kind of like coal and diamonds.
by vince_ on
Apr 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT
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Pressure does that you know
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM CDT
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It builds diamonds
Baseball diamonds.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
Apr 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT
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Swisher feeling pressure from Owens imminent callup
He felt the need to show his speed.
Pitching and defense.
by ballyb on
Apr 14, 2008 7:54 PM CDT
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augh, what the hell,
mlbtv? i wish i'd never paid for this garbage. it's been nothing but a disaster. i shelled out 20 bucks for premium streaming this month, and it hasn't worked properly once.
by baby_jamie on
Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT
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yeah, it's feast or famine for me
It either looks great and works perfect, or disaster like tonight.
by shaftr on
Apr 14, 2008 7:56 PM CDT
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ESPN Gamecast
stuck on Cabrera's 0 and 1 count for several minutes here
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Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT
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WTF shaftr?
C'mon, you were the guy posting glorious video stills this morning - now you're trashing this stuff? I'm confused.
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT
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that pic
was when the product was feast...now it's famine.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:00 PM CDT
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Get used to it - you're getting married soon
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Apr 14, 2008 8:00 PM CDT
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I had a similar experience a few years ago
I wish they'd get their act together (and maybe charge a fair price - yeah right). Might do Mlb radio, but not video again.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on
Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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Let's turn 2, c'mon Mark
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT
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Not quite
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT
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There we go, better late than never
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT
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Looks like Buehrle is getting behind a lot tonight
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
by rhythm on
Apr 14, 2008 8:02 PM CDT
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Word's out on the street
This nothing punk was coming right after Thomer with his fastball, nothing cute till he finished him off with the breaking ball.
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT
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THOME
is a POS
el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!
by e-gus on
Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT
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Everybody's coming right at him with fastballs
That's why he's not drawing any walks. He's got to start punishing this stuff.
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by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 8:08 PM CDT
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why is this miller chill ad still on air?
by The Wizard on
Apr 14, 2008 8:12 PM CDT
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At least the Dos Equis ads are back this year
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Apr 14, 2008 8:16 PM CDT
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I can't remember Buehrle ever
throwing a drop-down curve like that
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Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM CDT
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Nice play Juan
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86mph fastball from this punk, can't do anything with him
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Apr 14, 2008 8:20 PM CDT
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Well, these are the kinds of games a good team pulls out
In 2005 we'd just hang close and then pounce when the other team made a mistake - let them beat themselves.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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2007 - new pitcher, marginal talent,
"L". HOF moment for the kid.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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I don't like mike sweeney
I'm not used to him not being on the DL
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by boyonthedock on
Apr 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT
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HOw were those ball's to crosby looking
Gameday looks like they should have been strikes
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Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT
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I don't remember thinking they were bad calls
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Apr 14, 2008 8:33 PM CDT
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Hawk wasn't whining, if that's any indication
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Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
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Guess gameday
was being a little screwy.called a pitch like a foot off the plate a called strke later.
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by boyonthedock on
Apr 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT
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We need to get to this starter next inning
Oakland's got a bunch of guys I've never heard of in the bullpen with 0.00 ERA's waiting to come in.
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Rich Harden
Is not that special. What's Hawk and DJ talking about
I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell
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Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT
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Yeah, I was telling the tv to shut up.
Why would they talk about him for the entire inning? GAH.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT
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BoSux/Injuns on ESPN here
How can the BoSux be scary with Sean Casey at 1B? Who threw him out at 1B from LF last year at the Cell?
I took the "under".
by winningugly on
Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT
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if my memory is correct
it was pablo ozuna. I loved that play.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT
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Something has to happen tonight.
Crazy things always happen on half-price Monday!
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Oakland is annoying
They completely back up the truck and get rid of EVERYBODY. And here they are, 8-5 with a 3.53 team ERA and a total lockdown bullpen.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT
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Scrappy, financially speaking
I took the "under".
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Yeah, and we're shocked that we're competing with a $120mm payroll
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The Sox had a lock-down bullpen for a few weeks to start 2007
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I know, I never heard of any of their guys either - just like ours last year
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Yeah I suppose it isn't exactly the same thing
Unknown bullpen pitcher for the A's > Unknown bullpen pitcher for the Sox
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What kills me is they have no designs at all about competing this year
But here they are.
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Their offense is a joke, they're not going to do anything with that
But it looks like they have a pitching staff that can keep them in games.
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'59 Sox had no offense.
'62 Dodgers (?). Pitching wins championships. Or at least keeps it close.
I took the "under".
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You could win games in that era scoring 3 runs a game
Not nowadays, this is a completely new age of baseball my man. The quality of baseball nowadays is phenomenal compared to the past.
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C'mon OCab, we need something
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Same old White Sox
Getting shutdown by some no name lefty.
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I know - didn't even look close
Surprised they didn't argue
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when the oak guy got the ball in his glove, swish hadn't touch the bag
but by the time he swung his hand to tag swish, swish touched the bag
I think....
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uribe sucks
we need to get him out of there
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That's 1
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The only guy who ever really hustled - Bert Campaneris
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C'mon Paulie, we need something here
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Smith will throw a change no matter the count
Bad news for us
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And now I have to cheer for Ortiz to break out of his slump ESPN
Not something I am happy about
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Apr 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT
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Big Papi looks worse than Thomer
I took the "under".
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think theyd trade him
straight up?
el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!
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Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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Is buehrle really throwing 83 mph fastballs?
or is gameday a lying whore?
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sneaky fast
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Maddux-like
He's a goddamn genius. Check this issue of ESPN's Mag.
I took the "under".
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looks like beuhrle
put on his strikeout pants this inning
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Joe Crede!
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fields doesnt get that
and man on 2nd. who knows what happens after that
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I'm going to go on record...
...saying if the Sox are still contending, you keep Crede.
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dive to the right on hard grounder
Gets back up, throws him out. Joe Crede!
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I think i've seen that enough
to recreate a pretty accurate replay in my mind.
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Yep, vintage Joe - he looks right at home again
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I bet he's enjoying himself because this, and many other sites,
having to (this far) eat shit because of his performance.
I took the "under".
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Crede....YES.
Where is your Josh Fields now?
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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2005 Mancrush?
I took the "under".
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Yes.
Healthy Joe Crede mancrush.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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hopefully hes playing DH
down on the farm.
el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!
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Ok... I've determined if Crede signs outside of the Central or Cubs...
I will be forced to at least half-assedly cheer for that team
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just moved to sf
easier to cheer for giants with rowand on the team
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I've never been able to cheer for the Giants
then again, I've been living in Oakland since I've been out here. Do you live in SF?
I do like the fact that I'll get to see Rowand play, when I feel the urge to venture to Old Navy park.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT
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I was actually something of a Giants fan in my youth
My dad liked them so I did, one of those things. I actually went as Will the Thrill for Halloween when i was 6
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Apr 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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Liked the Gi-unts when the Say Hey Kid patrolled CF
LOVED Willie McCovey.
However, when Marichal axed Roseboro with a bat my ardor for the Giants faded.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT
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sox are going to take the lead in this inning
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Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT
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you're on record
i like it when stuff like that is right
Lurking since 2006
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Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT
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Is Joe leading off?
THEN I'd believe they'll take the lead.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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as it so ften happens...
Lurking since 2006
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Apr 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT
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He's not going anywhere, what's he doing getting picked off
Those kinds of mistakes lose games.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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shit
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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gidp im gussing
Lurking since 2006
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They dont' have the good angle on it
but that's almost assuredly a balk
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Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT
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Balk?
I thought his move on Swisher was definitely a balk. That one not so sure.
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Where's Ozzie?
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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I'd complain about that move...
but it works for Buehrle.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT
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Buerhle steps to the 1st base side of the 45 degree line
Smith was easily around 60 degrees
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Apr 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT
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Buehrle's deceptive
but he definitely keeps his stride more towards 1st than home... That didn't appear to be the case there.. (Though admittedly we didn't have a good angle)
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Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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I agree.
That looked like bullshit on the replay.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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Freakin' JD
And Betancourt owns the Carmines...
Bad news, men
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Sox must have read SSS
and said "we're going to show them our speed tool."
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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0-2 stealing tonight.
Are we now .333% YTD?
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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why is it we can never beat Oakland?
sheesh.
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4 hits last two innings
keep working him...lets put something together
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Not the DS again!
Jesus, guys.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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You know, Yaz was the first guy to use one of those
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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lol
Every single thing that happens in a game now has to be compared by Hawk to someone in the 60s. Nothing passes without some stupid flashback.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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It's like the 70s, 80s and 90s never happened
He must have just been on one long, hard bender through those decades. He can't recall a thing after the 60s.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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Alright, it's Crede-thirty.
Let's do this.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT
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crede has to get it done
bc uribe is a sack of
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Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT
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That pickoff was brutal
Should've scored that inning
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Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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Is Street still their closer?
He's been bad this year right?
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Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT
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Stone's talking about
what a great pickoff move Smith has. HTF can we get picked twice?
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT
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Not like we're going to steal.
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:03 PM CDT
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I can see Swish getting picked off
We'd never seen that move before. JD should've been on his toes after seeing that happened. He got picked off going for his friggin secondary lead, I don't care how good his move is - that's inexcusable.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT
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Stand on the goddamn base, already
No one out, and a lefty's up. WTF?
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT
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The guy's got a great move, he already showed you that
Make sure he throws the damn ball to home plate before you take your break off the bag.
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Just be glad it wasn't OC
we'd never hear the end of it
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Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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I blame that swine - I do!
A true field general would've been preparing the troops better, warning them about that dangerous pickoff move.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Count the previous posts
We're still not hearing the end of it...
;)
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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As long as he gets ahead w/ his fastball he'll be fine this year.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT
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Dotel 'em!
Looked bad at the start.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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this is an amazing game in detroit
pudge with a ballsy tag from third on young.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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What channel? ESPN?
Effin BoSux here.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT
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extra innings
they are nailing neshek. nearly everybody is hitting and they look good. and it all started back in the fifth (or sixth?) with a sheffield piece o crap hit to 3B that they couldn't make a play on.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Neshek may be done.
When sidearm relievers lose it, it seems to stay lost.
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R. Betancourt just gave up Youkalis' dong
Doesn't look as sharp as last year, either.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT
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Show 'em the homer hands, Juany.
Or...get on base, at least.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT
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when does ramirez/richar
get his shot at 2nd?
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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When Juan loses his cannon.
When Ramirez learns to hit and field. When Richar...I don't know what's up with him.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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get
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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's his visa
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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I was close to saying that.
Couldn't pull the trigger.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT
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Look, I'm the one drinking wine tonight..
I just didn't want to blame him for the visa. He fudged up.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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Ha! I knew I had to get it in quick
that's why I slipped and had to enter twice
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Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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when richar picks up a glove?
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Rays Yanks
Also a good one. Yankees in a laugher until 3 HR's and 5 runs in the 7th for the Rays. Then Cano pinch hits for a HR in the 8th. 8-7 Yankees now.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Youkilis bring the Sux back to 4-3
Lots of tight games. Why am I unhappy?
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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Dintchu Yustabe Jario Garcia on for the A's
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Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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Is that Spanish for Aardsma?
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Boone lost the chin curtain.
Whoa.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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what is with Juan
he's actually getting ahead at least. still can't hit.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT
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aargh!
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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"HE LOOKS UP....
YOU CAN....DAGGUMIT."
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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Hawk Longstreet, TV Detective
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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aneurysm on a 395 foot out
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Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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wow
Hawk just ejaculated all over a Swisher warning track shot. I'm sure the A's fans watching on MLB.tv are LOLing.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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It would be nice to have Fields on the bench
for just this moment.
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT
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what, so they can send a righty out against fields?
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT
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Pinch hit for Thome?
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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Blasphemy!
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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and then the As put in a right-handed pitcher and the result is the same
having fields on the bench is silly unless you want to get a lefty out of the game.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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wouldnt he have to face a hitter first
?
el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!
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Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT
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shux
hold 'em. Got Kong Dye AJ and mancrush coming up.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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Such expert analysis from the booth
"Embree throws about 80-85% fastballs, so you know what you're going to get"
/4 straight breaking balls for the strikeout
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Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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Does anyone have a comparison...
to what Stoney said about him?
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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They're totally messing with Thome's head
The punk with the 86mph fastball was coming right down the pipe on him, then Embree comes in with all breaking balls.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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In their defense....
Embree threw about 87% fastballs last year (according to FanGraphs)
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Apr 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT
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Live by the cliche, die by the cliche
Sometimes it pays to be a contrarian.
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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Is DJ really sticking with "Oh, do tell?"
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Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT
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He did the unenthusiatic "oh really" with the unseen eye-roll earlier to the first Yaz reference of the night
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Slick fielding gold glover
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on
Apr 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT
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you don't quit, do you
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT
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Shooting fish in a bucket, he's making it too easy for me
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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i'd forgotten your reference point for SS was ozzie smith
amusing how both fielding metrics and i disagree with your crack analysis.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT
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When you see someone play every day with your own eyes you don't need fielding metrics
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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but you don't
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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You seem to be the only one on this board impressed with him
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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maybe i'm smarter than everyone?
can't say that ever really bothered me.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT
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*rolls eyes*
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
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already did
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
by larry on
Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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Now you've crossed into hubristic territory, sir
I took the "under".
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Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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He hasn't...
Impressed me at all this year w/ the glove or the bat. Hopefully just a slow start.
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Farmer:
"MacDougal in '05 was the Royals Pitcher of the Year."
Pitching and defense.
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tallest midget award
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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Do we really need to build MacDougal's confidence tonight?
Can't it wait for some other time
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Mike Timlin has 4 WS rings
Somewhere Ernie Banks is grimacing. I mean, Mike effin' Timlen!
I took the "under".
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ernie should have been a reliever
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
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So Suzuki has a four-hit night...
...and Cheat hasn't mentioned Donny Lucy once? I don't feel like I know you anymore.
And booing MacDougal. That's going to help.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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The last two looked good to me.
Bad luck there.
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT
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Walks a guy with a .542 OPS.
Pitching and defense.
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Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT
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Ah yes...
the new Mikey Mack... same as the old mikey mack.
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
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how quickly...
...we descend into the muck of season's past. It always feels like this team is coming apart, no matter how good they appear.
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wtf
A Billy Beane team isn't trying to sac here are they?
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Plz bat JD 3rd
Thome needs to get some lasik eye surgery, but seriously JD should be batting thrid
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Borowski blows another save
I took the "under".
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