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Game 12: White Sox (7-4) vs. A's (8-5)

Oakland Athletics at Chicago White Sox, Apr 14, 2008 7:11 PM CDT


Mark Buehrle (LHP) vs. Greg Smith (LHP)

Time: 7:11 p.m. CT, TV: CSN, Radio: WSCR AM-670 (B-R preview, Live Boxscore; 2007 MLB Gameday; 2008 MLB Gameday)


Today's Starters

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Mark Buehrle 1-0 2 2 0 0 0 0 8.2 14 9 8 2 3 2 8.31 1.96
Greg Smith 0-0 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.0 2 3 2 0 5 5 3.00 1.17



GO SOX!

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It'll be interesting...

to see how the Sox offense handles this guy - a fringy lefty they haven't seen before.

If they score more than two runs off this guy, that'll be a sign that things have changed.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 6:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the 5 BB he's given up are encouraging

But I agree with your drift.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A's DFA Fernando Hernandez

[SFC]:

Saarloos back, Hernandez out

From Chronicle Staff Writer Susan Slusser in Chicago

The A's kept Rule-5 draftee Jay Marshall all last year, but this year's Rule-5 pick, reliever Fernando Hernandez, didn't last the first month.

Hernandez had two rough outings on this trip, including allowing four runs at Cleveland on Sunday, and with the A's needing more depth in the bullpen, the right-hander was designated for assignment today and right-hander Kirk Saarloos was called up. Saarloos, a former 10-game winner for the A's and a clubhouse favorite, will be the long man for now.

Hernandez must go through waivers and if he clears, he must be offered back to the White Sox, and they can take him back for $25,000 if they choose. A's assistant GM David Forst said if Hernandez clears waivers, Oakland will have some talks with the White Sox, which means the team might be open to swinging a deal with Chicago to keep Hernandez.

by The Wizard on Apr 14, 2008 6:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What happens if he's claimed by another team?

Do the Sox get $ from team X? Does team X have to keep Hernandez on the major league roster?

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 14, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have to pay Oakland

And yes, he has to stay on the roster all year or be offered back to the Sox through the same process

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice start with several players doing well

this game will be a good test I pray Buerhle is excellent tonight.

by floridajim on Apr 14, 2008 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mlb.tv

fail for anyone else right now?

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thome is a good enough hitter with bat contol

to learn to hit the ball to left-field, particularly when a shift is on. I did not see a shift on that at-bat however. But the thought is valid I believe.

by floridajim on Apr 14, 2008 7:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no. Was just going to say the same.

we'd be down 1-0

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe is playing super

Josh is also playing much better in the minors.

by floridajim on Apr 14, 2008 7:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how do you know? He's hitting,

but how do you know how he's playing?

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did buehrle

get out of the inning? gameday frozen.....

by gamara21 on Apr 14, 2008 7:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yes. Good d by Crede.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

crede dived and got the 2nd out, then mark retired murphy

by The Wizard on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawk: You know who was a sandbagger? Yaz

DJ: Oh really? (vomits into garbage pail in booth)

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mlb is dead

.tv and gameday are all broken right now.

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hawk is alive and well on CSN

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

I'm out of market.

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luuuuuuck, be a lady toniiiiiiiiiiiight

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know who else was lucky?....Yaz

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Working fine for me

in firefox, I had trouble with IE

by 3E8 on Apr 14, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

I can't log in with either mosaic or thru mlb.

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLBTV is a f-ing joke

I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell

by chisox on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

any of you guys use the mosaic?

i couldnt figure out how to specify which game was where.
mlb.tv is pretty weak.

el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!

by e-gus on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Odd inning

Isn't this kind of stuff usually what happens against *us* when we play Oakland? For once we get the benefit...

by vince_ on Apr 14, 2008 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Hawk jinxed him, said clutch guys like Joe win MVPs.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Margolis of Sox Machine

gives daily updates of the Sox minor league teams. Fields started poorly but went 4/4 two days ago and 2/3 or so yesterday. Owens was o/8 after two games. Last year Baseball Reference had the daily stats but I have not checked them this year.

by floridajim on Apr 14, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like vintage Buehrle tonite

Working really fast. 2 1/2 innings in 33 minutes so far.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What's the over/under...

...on times Hawk says "one pitch/one out" after Uribe's AB this season?

by vince_ on Apr 14, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing Swish is under a 5yr contract

He's giving up a lot of RBIs batting leadoff behind Uribe's sub-.300 OBP, other sluggers would be beefing about that.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

These guys obviously aren't grinding hard enough, time to rev up the SB machine

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you grind hard enough...

...outs turn into runs!

Kind of like coal and diamonds.

by vince_ on Apr 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pressure does that you know

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It builds diamonds

Baseball diamonds.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swisher feeling pressure from Owens imminent callup

He felt the need to show his speed.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

augh, what the hell,

mlbtv? i wish i'd never paid for this garbage. it's been nothing but a disaster. i shelled out 20 bucks for premium streaming this month, and it hasn't worked properly once.

by baby_jamie on Apr 14, 2008 7:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it's feast or famine for me

It either looks great and works perfect, or disaster like tonight.

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Gamecast

stuck on Cabrera's 0 and 1 count for several minutes here

by stooge9 on Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF shaftr?

C'mon, you were the guy posting glorious video stills this morning - now you're trashing this stuff? I'm confused.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that pic

was when the product was feast...now it's famine.

by shaftr on Apr 14, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get used to it - you're getting married soon

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a similar experience a few years ago

I wish they'd get their act together (and maybe charge a fair price - yeah right). Might do Mlb radio, but not video again.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's turn 2, c'mon Mark

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not quite

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 7:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There we go, better late than never

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Word's out on the street

This nothing punk was coming right after Thomer with his fastball, nothing cute till he finished him off with the breaking ball.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

THOME

is a POS

el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!

by e-gus on Apr 14, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everybody's coming right at him with fastballs

That's why he's not drawing any walks. He's got to start punishing this stuff.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least the Dos Equis ads are back this year

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember Buehrle ever

throwing a drop-down curve like that

by 3E8 on Apr 14, 2008 8:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice play Juan

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

86mph fastball from this punk, can't do anything with him

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, these are the kinds of games a good team pulls out

In 2005 we'd just hang close and then pounce when the other team made a mistake - let them beat themselves.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2007 - new pitcher, marginal talent,

"L". HOF moment for the kid.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like mike sweeney

I'm not used to him not being on the DL

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

HOw were those ball's to crosby looking

Gameday looks like they should have been strikes

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hawk wasn't whining, if that's any indication

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess gameday

was being a little screwy.called a pitch like a foot off the plate a called strke later.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to get to this starter next inning

Oakland's got a bunch of guys I've never heard of in the bullpen with 0.00 ERA's waiting to come in.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rich Harden

Is not that special. What's Hawk and DJ talking about

I'm a disgruntled Whitesox fan and I can't spell

by chisox on Apr 14, 2008 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was telling the tv to shut up.

Why would they talk about him for the entire inning? GAH.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BoSux/Injuns on ESPN here

How can the BoSux be scary with Sean Casey at 1B? Who threw him out at 1B from LF last year at the Cell?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if my memory is correct

it was pablo ozuna. I loved that play.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something has to happen tonight.

Crazy things always happen on half-price Monday!

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oakland is annoying

They completely back up the truck and get rid of EVERYBODY. And here they are, 8-5 with a 3.53 team ERA and a total lockdown bullpen.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and we're shocked that we're competing with a $120mm payroll

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I never heard of any of their guys either - just like ours last year

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I suppose it isn't exactly the same thing

Unknown bullpen pitcher for the A's > Unknown bullpen pitcher for the Sox

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kills me is they have no designs at all about competing this year

But here they are.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'tis early

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their offense is a joke, they're not going to do anything with that

But it looks like they have a pitching staff that can keep them in games.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

'59 Sox had no offense.

'62 Dodgers (?). Pitching wins championships. Or at least keeps it close.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could win games in that era scoring 3 runs a game

Not nowadays, this is a completely new age of baseball my man. The quality of baseball nowadays is phenomenal compared to the past.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon OCab, we need something

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Safe by an inch

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know - didn't even look close

Surprised they didn't argue

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when the oak guy got the ball in his glove, swish hadn't touch the bag

but by the time he swung his hand to tag swish, swish touched the bag

I think....

by The Wizard on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uribe sucks

we need to get him out of there

by The Scoper on Apr 14, 2008 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's 1

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The only guy who ever really hustled - Bert Campaneris

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Paulie, we need something here

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is buehrle really throwing 83 mph fastballs?

or is gameday a lying whore?

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sneaky fast

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux-like

He's a goddamn genius. Check this issue of ESPN's Mag.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

looks like beuhrle

put on his strikeout pants this inning

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Crede!

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fields doesnt get that

and man on 2nd. who knows what happens after that

by The Scoper on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go on record...

...saying if the Sox are still contending, you keep Crede.

by vince_ on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dive to the right on hard grounder

Gets back up, throws him out. Joe Crede!

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think i've seen that enough

to recreate a pretty accurate replay in my mind.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, vintage Joe - he looks right at home again

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet he's enjoying himself because this, and many other sites,

having to (this far) eat shit because of his performance.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crede....YES.

Where is your Josh Fields now?

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Healthy Joe Crede mancrush.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully hes playing DH

down on the farm.

el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!

by e-gus on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok... I've determined if Crede signs outside of the Central or Cubs...

I will be forced to at least half-assedly cheer for that team

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just moved to sf

easier to cheer for giants with rowand on the team

by The Scoper on Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never been able to cheer for the Giants

then again, I've been living in Oakland since I've been out here. Do you live in SF?

I do like the fact that I'll get to see Rowand play, when I feel the urge to venture to Old Navy park.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 14, 2008 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was actually something of a Giants fan in my youth

My dad liked them so I did, one of those things. I actually went as Will the Thrill for Halloween when i was 6

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liked the Gi-unts when the Say Hey Kid patrolled CF

LOVED Willie McCovey.

However, when Marichal axed Roseboro with a bat my ardor for the Giants faded.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're on record

i like it when stuff like that is right

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Joe leading off?

THEN I'd believe they'll take the lead.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not going anywhere, what's he doing getting picked off

Those kinds of mistakes lose games.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shit

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hey

i resemble that remark

el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!

by e-gus on Apr 14, 2008 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Balk?

I thought his move on Swisher was definitely a balk. That one not so sure.

by bumptious on Apr 14, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd complain about that move...

but it works for Buehrle.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Buehrle's deceptive

but he definitely keeps his stride more towards 1st than home... That didn't appear to be the case there.. (Though admittedly we didn't have a good angle)

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

That looked like bullshit on the replay.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freakin' JD

And Betancourt owns the Carmines...

Bad news, men

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sox must have read SSS

and said "we're going to show them our speed tool."

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-2 stealing tonight.

Are we now .333% YTD?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 hits last two innings

keep working him...lets put something together

by The Scoper on Apr 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not the DS again!

Jesus, guys.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know, Yaz was the first guy to use one of those

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Every single thing that happens in a game now has to be compared by Hawk to someone in the 60s. Nothing passes without some stupid flashback.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like the 70s, 80s and 90s never happened

He must have just been on one long, hard bender through those decades. He can't recall a thing after the 60s.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, it's Crede-thirty.

Let's do this.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That pickoff was brutal

Should've scored that inning

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Street still their closer?

He's been bad this year right?

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 9:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stone's talking about

what a great pickoff move Smith has. HTF can we get picked twice?

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 9:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can see Swish getting picked off

We'd never seen that move before. JD should've been on his toes after seeing that happened. He got picked off going for his friggin secondary lead, I don't care how good his move is - that's inexcusable.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stand on the goddamn base, already

No one out, and a lefty's up. WTF?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The guy's got a great move, he already showed you that

Make sure he throws the damn ball to home plate before you take your break off the bag.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just be glad it wasn't OC

we'd never hear the end of it

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame that swine - I do!

A true field general would've been preparing the troops better, warning them about that dangerous pickoff move.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Count the previous posts

We're still not hearing the end of it...

;)

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as he gets ahead w/ his fastball he'll be fine this year.

by bumptious on Apr 14, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dotel 'em!

Looked bad at the start.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is an amazing game in detroit

pudge with a ballsy tag from third on young.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What channel? ESPN?

Effin BoSux here.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

extra innings

they are nailing neshek. nearly everybody is hitting and they look good. and it all started back in the fifth (or sixth?) with a sheffield piece o crap hit to 3B that they couldn't make a play on.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neshek may be done.

When sidearm relievers lose it, it seems to stay lost.

by CatBrains on Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

R. Betancourt just gave up Youkalis' dong

Doesn't look as sharp as last year, either.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Show 'em the homer hands, Juany.

Or...get on base, at least.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When Juan loses his cannon.

When Ramirez learns to hit and field. When Richar...I don't know what's up with him.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

's his visa

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was close to saying that.

Couldn't pull the trigger.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, DI

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look, I'm the one drinking wine tonight..

I just didn't want to blame him for the visa. He fudged up.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha! I knew I had to get it in quick

that's why I slipped and had to enter twice

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when richar picks up a glove?

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rays Yanks

Also a good one. Yankees in a laugher until 3 HR's and 5 runs in the 7th for the Rays. Then Cano pinch hits for a HR in the 8th. 8-7 Yankees now.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that Spanish for Aardsma?

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what is with Juan

he's actually getting ahead at least. still can't hit.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

aargh!

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Que?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"HE LOOKS UP....

YOU CAN....DAGGUMIT."

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hawk Longstreet, TV Detective

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

aneurysm on a 395 foot out

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Hawk just ejaculated all over a Swisher warning track shot. I'm sure the A's fans watching on MLB.tv are LOLing.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice to have Fields on the bench

for just this moment.

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what, so they can send a righty out against fields?

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pinch hit for Thome?

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blasphemy!

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and then the As put in a right-handed pitcher and the result is the same

having fields on the bench is silly unless you want to get a lefty out of the game.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldnt he have to face a hitter first

?

el birdos 'gus' stole my handle!

by e-gus on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shux

hold 'em. Got Kong Dye AJ and mancrush coming up.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Such expert analysis from the booth

"Embree throws about 80-85% fastballs, so you know what you're going to get"

/4 straight breaking balls for the strikeout

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 9:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone have a comparison...

to what Stoney said about him?

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're totally messing with Thome's head

The punk with the 86mph fastball was coming right down the pipe on him, then Embree comes in with all breaking balls.

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In their defense....

Embree threw about 87% fastballs last year (according to FanGraphs)

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Live by the cliche, die by the cliche

Sometimes it pays to be a contrarian.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did the unenthusiatic "oh really" with the unseen eye-roll earlier to the first Yaz reference of the night

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slick fielding gold glover

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you don't quit, do you

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shooting fish in a bucket, he's making it too easy for me

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd forgotten your reference point for SS was ozzie smith

amusing how both fielding metrics and i disagree with your crack analysis.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you see someone play every day with your own eyes you don't need fielding metrics

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but you don't

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You seem to be the only one on this board impressed with him

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe i'm smarter than everyone?

can't say that ever really bothered me.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

*rolls eyes*

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

already did

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

just now?

i think pete already knows the low opinion i have of his defensive assessments.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't...

Impressed me at all this year w/ the glove or the bat. Hopefully just a slow start.

by bumptious on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Farmer:

"MacDougal in '05 was the Royals Pitcher of the Year."

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

tallest midget award

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we really need to build MacDougal's confidence tonight?

Can't it wait for some other time

''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''

by ChicagoPete on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike Timlin has 4 WS rings

Somewhere Ernie Banks is grimacing. I mean, Mike effin' Timlen!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ernie should have been a reliever

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Suzuki has a four-hit night...

...and Cheat hasn't mentioned Donny Lucy once? I don't feel like I know you anymore.

And booing MacDougal. That's going to help.

by Sox Machine on Apr 14, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a train wreck.

by bumptious on Apr 14, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes...

the new Mikey Mack... same as the old mikey mack.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 14, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

how quickly...

...we descend into the muck of season's past. It always feels like this team is coming apart, no matter how good they appear.

by RoyEgan on Apr 14, 2008 9:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf

A Billy Beane team isn't trying to sac here are they?

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Plz bat JD 3rd

Thome needs to get some lasik eye surgery, but seriously JD should be batting thrid

by BCLUTCH13 on Apr 14, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

small ball comes up tiny.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 9:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!

Pitching and defense.

by ballyb on Apr 14, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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