Gary Sheffield: "That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck. That’s what I ...

Gary Sheffield: "That’s what I love about my skip, man. He’ll tell you that you suck. That’s what I appreciate him for. I know I suck. We know we suck. But I don’t see nobody in there hanging their head and feeling sorry for themselves. Yeah, we suck. But we’ll see who sucks at the end."

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Hoover or Oreck?

They suck to completion. Do the Tigers?

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who cares who sucks at the end?

I care about sucking at the start. THAT'S what I want.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

who sucks at the end gets the shaft

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You go to confession, young man

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

by The Scoper on Apr 14, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Sox have 3 blowouts (5+ run victories) over the Tigers

They had 3 blowout victories versus all of baseball in the first 3 months of last season.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Are we that good, or are they that bad?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the answer is always

a little of both.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rhetorical, sir.

It's always a balance. Well, mostly. You are always right (at least lately). Some of us don't yet trust that. We'll learn.

Go play the lottery - you are on a roll. ;0

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not always right

see below

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Oswalt?

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"atomic wedgie": new name for blowouts!!

According to our SBN brethren:

Apparently, that 11-0 atomic wedgie the White Sox laid on the Tigers was the breaking point. That was all he could stands, and he can't stands no more! After the game, Leyland lit into his woefully underperforming squad. We don't know what he said to the team, but we know he kept the media out of the clubhouse while he did it, and refused to elaborate on what sort of tirade he might have thrown when asked about it afterwards. And the players took their verbal beating like men.

The question now is whether this accomplishes anything. Even Leyland knows he can stomp and flail and yell all he wants, but it's on the players to start putting in a far greater effort. And therein lies the risk. If the Tigers continue to lollygag, what does he do then? Maybe Leyland should start holding himself accountable.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It helps...

that Podsednik, Erstad, and Andy Gonzalez aren't around to kill innings any more.

The Tigers' pitching is awful.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

current ops against of .800, tied for worst in the AL

interestingly, five national league teams are worse.

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

theyve played half their games against the Sox, tough to really take much from the current sample

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed.

was just putting a number next to jerry's "awful." really i found it more interesting that the five worst OPS against staffs in the young season face a pitcher or bench player every time through the order.

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

perhaps that speaks to the disparity between the 2 leagus

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah I admit I far underestimated

The potential problems of the pitching staff. They will of course hit but geez I dont know if it will matter.

by Tdogg on Apr 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe underestimated the injury problems, as well

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you mean the impact of missing Rodney or Zum yes

Sheffield was never expected to be healthy. Grand and Cab were flukes.

by Tdogg on Apr 14, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

polanco, guillen...

miggy wasn't a fluke. this is the same injury he's been fighting since winter ball. very expected.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess

I never studied any other players. I only felt like Maggs wasnt an injury risk (increased)

by Tdogg on Apr 14, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

By the way Cab and Polanco were greens.

Guillen and of course Sheff were a big red.

by Tdogg on Apr 14, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've always wondered why that is

The top hitters, ie Pujols, Feilder, Howard, any colorado rockie, etc. seem to murder the ball at a little bit better rate than AL guy. But the pitchers like Peavy, Webb, Carpenter, all have slightly more dominant howings as well. It seems like it is jut a much more top heavy league.

Lurking since 2006

by boyonthedock on Apr 14, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

good for will

i have my own method.

somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.

by larry on Apr 14, 2008 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least it looks like maybe you got oswalt right.

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well Oz doesnt suck and he certainly will win and rebound.

Im not against him, I just thought he was no longer Top 10 pitcher wise in Fantasy. I would trade real life for him in a second.

by Tdogg on Apr 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's Why

You always leave a note.

by madvillian on Apr 14, 2008 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Illusions, Dad! You don't have time for my illusions!

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another crazy stat

In '07, Guillen's most used lineup played only 8 games together (two different lineups got 8 games together)

This season, he's already used the same lineup 7 times.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cowley says

"Usual suspects in the starting lineup for Monday night against Oakland" so it's the same lineup 8 times in 12 games vs. 162 games last year

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reifert's lineup refers to Crede as "Mr. GS"

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gag.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he did add this useful nugget.

White Sox leadoff hitters rank third in all of baseball in OBP at .453. (Oakland enters this series at 26th). Last year, we ranked 27th (and last in the AL) at .321.

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still rooting for Crede to fail, JRE?

Just become a Royals fan and rid us of your constant "if they fail now, we'll better in a few years" gag reflexes. Jesus, man.

Out-underacheiving the other guy.

by defensive indifference on Apr 14, 2008 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope he does well, now.

That way the Sox might actually get something in trade for him.

A slump won't do anything to get him out of the lineup at this point - the first few games mean that the Sox will stick with him now.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or even better...

if he has a great year, he might even be a type-"A" at the end of the season.

Of course, knowing Ken Williams, he wouldn't offer Crede arbitration...

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm not very confident in KW's ability to sell tops on a player

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's always a factor.

Williams is good at the "buy low" part of a trade, not so good at the "sell high" part.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree, he's has taken some nice chances on low-risk, high-reward players

but i think he is generally unwilling to part with Sox that were valuable but simply cannot sustain their most recent production.

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he gets a certain image...

in his head of what a player is worth, and it's really hard for him to adjust when reality shows him wrong. Crede and Dye are good examples - his initial assessment of them is what he's sticking with, and if other GMs disagree, well, then fine - he'll just hold onto them.

Look how long he was obsessed with Darin Erstad. He didn't let the fact that Erstad was always hurt and sucked when he wasn't hurt during his last few years with the Angels stop him from giving Erstad a contract.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree, it seems he has decided to keep dye for the duration

but i thought in light of the sox slipping away in 2006, he was remiss for not agressively exploring the market for dye after the extreme abberation of a season dye had that year. perhaps he did, but i would have bet there could have been a nice haul to be had from some foolish gm looking to upgrade their corner of'ers.

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sirotka, Garcia, Reed, McCarthy and likely

Garland. Nope, Kenny don't know shit.

Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote

by Chiburb on Apr 14, 2008 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

he's never had an issue trading youth, and the return on Sirotka wasn't really that great. Either he knew that Sirotka was FUBAR, or he got really lucky.

Garcia, I'll grant you - he's the one veteran that I thought he got good value for.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 14, 2008 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

it was 2006 i think

by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 14, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah it was after we swept them in early '06

They won 30 of their next 40 games.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My bad.

I certainly am not larry re: facts.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had to look it up

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cut yourself some slack.

like larry says, speed over accuracy.

Somebody's shoved a red-hot poker up our ass, and I want to know whose name is on the handle!

by Toonderstrook on Apr 14, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cowley's goin nuts with his Twitter account

4 pregame updates in the past 30 minutes

http://twitter.com/cst_sox

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 14, 2008 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

the selfish meme piece on FJM has solidified my suspicion of him being a total clown

Where does he work?

by MarketMaker on Apr 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

hey jerry (jre)

I accidentally deleted one of your comments on the recap thread [Fabulous Fortnight]

the one about not enjoying hr and k's as much
I saw it though...

still not used to the new platform!

sorry...

by The Wizard on Apr 14, 2008 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Saarloos back, Hernandez out
From Chronicle Staff Writer Susan Slusser in Chicago

The A's kept Rule-5 draftee Jay Marshall all last year, but this year's Rule-5 pick, reliever Fernando Hernandez, didn't last the first month.

Hernandez had two rough outings on this trip, including allowing four runs at Cleveland on Sunday, and with the A's needing more depth in the bullpen, the right-hander was designated for assignment today and right-hander Kirk Saarloos was called up. Saarloos, a former 10-game winner for the A's and a clubhouse favorite, will be the long man for now.

Hernandez must go through waivers and if he clears, he must be offered back to the White Sox, and they can take him back for $25,000 if they choose. A's assistant GM David Forst said if Hernandez clears waivers, Oakland will have some talks with the White Sox, which means the team might be open to swinging a deal with Chicago to keep Hernandez.

by The Wizard on Apr 14, 2008 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs