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by The Cheat on Apr 15, 2008 9:21 PM CDT
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There are times when I just don't have a lot to say about a game, and this is one of them. I could have written a recap before I ate dinner -- Portillo's, if you were wondering -- but didn't really have much insight to offer at the time. Sometimes it comes to you after you let the game sink in. This isn't one of those nights.
I've got nuttin, and don't feel like faking it tonight.
Here's something: Video 400k 800k (mms links) of Quentin's 3-run HR from whitesox.com. I can't find video of Alexei's throw; CSN will repeat the game at 1am though (The Wizard).
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In celebration of The Office's return last week,
“That’s what she said!”
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
now please turn on the cartoon network and get the hell out of here!
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 15, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, what do you expect, mother?
[holds up his hook]
I’m half machine. I’m a monster.
by MarketMaker on Apr 15, 2008 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I lied... I've got one
If you’re near a TV they’re gonna shot Quentin’s bat flip - Better than Iguchi’s. He really throws that thing - and hopefully more frequent than Juan’s homer hands.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
that bat flip was money and not what i'd call modest
by MarketMaker on Apr 15, 2008 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The bat flip was awesome, it almost went into the stands
btw Cheat – if you have Comcast, the Sox games go straight to On Demand after completion. They sit there for 48 hours, I think they’ve buried it under the “Local” tab.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
They're just strippers!
Seriously though: anyone else like Hawk’s little chuckle on that Mancrush shot? I also love how it was a no doubter as Q had a magnificent and delicious bat flip before he started trotting and Hawk went slightly mad.
God damn—I forgot how much fun it is having big league outfielders.
Ramirez showed well with two warning shot drives, one of which fell for a very long double. In the early part of the game (can’t remember exactly which inning) he made a great play sprinting to his left for a ball in the gap before spinning and firing a good accurate through to 2nd to get the runner rather easily.
I was at work and only watched Danks sporadically but he seemed to be getting ahead mostly and pitching with good command and control.
Good win and some more reason for optimism, at least for another night.
Ramirez hit the ball hard a few times yesterday, I don't think he wants to go to Charlotte
If he can sit on the bench and then come out and produce like that he’s very valuable.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
I've never had a problem with him
I’m all about getting the young guys out there. Throwing money at the guys on the wrong side of the curve is what I have issues with.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
The chocolate cake shake?
That thing is absolutely delicious. Milwaukee is terrible for those almost-but-not-quite-fast-food joints that serve delicious hot dogs, burgers and beef sandwiches.
Same here
There are two places that could be great hot dog stops, but instead they either come with meat sauce or tsatsiki sauce. I usually end up hitting Portillo’s or Doggie Diner twice when I come back.
Right now, I could go for a beef and sausage combo.
by Sox Machine on Apr 15, 2008 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
make mine a beef, with mozzarella, hot peppers, dry, au jus on the side
by MarketMaker on Apr 15, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
y'all are making my mouth water
Can’t a good brat, dog, or pizza out in LA.
Whenever I get back home Giordano’s, Gino’s East, Portillo’s or Lou Malnati’s will be one of my dinners…the rest are prepared by my mum who is a great cook.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I know its not the same as dine in
but Lou’s has fed ex, and its not that bad if you’re in a town that doesn’t have good pizza.
by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 16, 2008 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions
healthier too
if you’re in nyc, i’m with you on that, totally. but i’m not impressed with boston offerings. i’m usually in nyc once every 2/3 months, any recommendations for a slice?
by onlysoxfaninboston on Apr 16, 2008 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
original rays
in the village is pretty good. Apparently there are a couple of legendary brooklyn joints around DUMBO. “Johnies” in South Slope Brooklyn is like an institution in my neighborhood. A 60 year old white haired Italian man brings it with a smile and says, “Johnie’s, always fresh, always hot”.
I’ve only been hear a little over 2 years, any native NYC’er could probably point out the best.
IMO you can’t really go wrong with any of the mom and pop places in the outer boroughs. Some of the manhattan places charing 3.00 for a regular slice are rediculous.
DUMBO
I work in DUMBO (I’m here now). Grimaldis is the place that everyone labels “best pizza in NYC”. It’s pretty good, not too expensive. It’s a good place to take out-of-towners.
by rhombusface on Apr 16, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
it’s perfect out. I’m going for a run around Prospect Park after work, before we beat on Baltimore.
also
great views of the Brooklyn/Manhattan bridges from there.
Some of those condos
They put up a couple years ago with the rooftop garden’s have spectacular views I’m sure.
Yea, I’m trying to bug out of work a bit early today so I can play ultimate in Prospect before I watch the White Sox game.
Drugs must be better in NYC also.
Pitching and defense.
2 places that have amazing Pizza in the burbs
best deep dish I have ever had… over Giordanos, Lou Malnottis, Ginos east…. is Vita bella in plainfield and 1 in shorewood. best thin crust is Vito and Nicks II. I am so lucky to have these 2 places right across the street from me. Worth a 30 minute drive.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, Giordano's - a name from the past
I am truly sad that we can’t get anything resembling either Giordano’s or the Chicago Uno’s here. I have to order Papa John’s, and my daughter is being raised on counterfeit pizza. Someone needs to go to jail for this.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Apr 16, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
PS Is Eduardo's still around. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
I took the "under".
by winningugly on Apr 16, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Uno's is amazing
I would say Vita Bella tastes like a mix between Uno’s and Lou Malnottis. For twice as much at half the price. YOU CAN’T BEAT THAT!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Uno's is a chain now - mediocre.
Due’s is the best.
Pitching and defense.
Yeah
the uno’s in aurora i used to go to shut down so i have not had it in about 2 years. It sucks now huh?
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Dues?
where is it located?
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Corner of Ontario and Wabash.
Pitching and defense.
Originally it was.
Not anymore.
Pitching and defense.
I disagree
tourist trap. Honestly try one of the one-off spots around the city. I recommend the Art of Pizza up north, or as said before, pequod’s is delicious.
Just because a lot of tourists
eat there doesn’t lessen the quality of the pizza.
Garrett popcorn is swarming with tourists and the caramel corn tastes as good as when they had one location.
To each his own.
Pitching and defense.
The Uno's chain...
is not affiliated with the Uno’s downtown. Right?
Out-underacheiving the other guy.
by defensive indifference on Apr 16, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
of course it is.
http://www.unos.com/legend.html
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
i ate at one in south korea
they do a decent job with franchising. kind of a different toppings list over there, though.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
The chain is not indicative of the original's quality
Probably because people outside of Chicago are not accustomed to ordering a sit-down pizza 45 minutes in advance.
Deep dish...
is not pizza. It’s a casserole.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Press report?
I claim bullshit.
Pitching and defense.
how unfortunate
Papa Johns tastes like Domino’s out of a dumpster.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
You can have Gino's shipped to you Wu
They ship nationwide now I believe.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
Pequod's
on Clybourn is another place I would put above the Gino’s, Lou Malnotti’s, Giordano’s holy trinity. Their deep dish has carmelized cheese around the outside of the crust and the sauce is excellent.
Also, all of you should be thankful that you never lived in Philadelphia. Worst pizza there is. It’s so bad that people traditionally douse it in ketchup and salt. Papa John’s was literally the best pizza in town.
Its good
but the Art of Pizza on Ashland is better.
Ha!
I don’t know, I’ve only been to St. Louis once and didn’t have pizza, but the only pizza I’ve had that was worse than Philly was from room service at a hotel in Puerto Vallarta. It tasted like someone else had already eaten it.
As for Art of Pizza, I agree with Rock that it’s awesome. Their thin crust is excellent and they have an enormous delivery area. Also, Pizza Metro on Division costs a fortune but is pretty amazing, particularly the Garbage pizza.
Anything below, Champaign
From Champaign up there are too many students & transplants from the Chicago area that would not accept a bad pizza, but once you get past UofI it’s all downhill.
St. Louis, Louisville, Charlotte.. it’s just a disaster all the way through. Truely not edible.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 16, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Imo's. Meh
St. Louisans raved about it when I went to Mizzou (they seemed to have the best everything, according to them), but I was underwhelmed. Only XL pizza I’ve ever knocked about by myself—paper thin, not very tasty, and I still felt kinda hungry afterward.
Yeah, St. Louis is a Mecca of cultural and gastronomical expression
which is why they’ve been losing population for 15 years.
Great baseball fans, though.
I took the "under".
Cultural Mecca indeed
They have the International Bowling Museum and Hall of Fame as well as the American Kennel Club Museum of the Dog.
Move over Paris, I’m heading to St. Louis for my culturing!
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
I am shamed
Thank you for pointing out my inadequate factual information. Bowling and Dogs put it overthe Top!!
Paris, beware! St. Louis is a’gainin’ on ya!
I took the "under".
LIKE
Doggie diner in bolingbrook?
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Doggie Diner?
In the burbs? I love that place.
Another good one is hamburger heaven.
Yeah in the burbs
everything there is amazing. I noticed there are no good mom and pop places besides for pizza in S. naperville/n. plainfield. Kinda depressing all we got is major fast food crap. The only good fast food is culvers and taco bell.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a Doggie Diner
in Bolingbrook. Lilly cache and rt 53.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously cheat, how about a recap of your portillo's order?
i know it doesn’t hold a candle to mine, but i love hearing another person’s order at portillo’s. does anybody not love that place?
by MarketMaker on Apr 15, 2008 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
order
Beef with hot and mozz, double dipped, cheese fries.
Those of you with Comcast Cable
The Sox are OnDemand channel 999 (they’ve promoted this during the last two games). They have today’s game already up and will be available for two more days. Pretty nice as you can fast forward through commercials and the pregame. The more you know.
Caulk the wagon.
sweet find man, i didn't get to watch the game today, they gonna do this all season?
by MarketMaker on Apr 15, 2008 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i sincerely hope so
and with them advertising the feature during games, i think they will
Caulk the wagon.
ya beat me to it, I should've read the whole thread
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
An interesting little nugget at the bottom of that page.
According to the milestone tracker, JD is two hits away from 1500.
I say we throw a party for him when he gets there.
Streamers, cupcakes, juice boxes, the works.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
Aha
So quick with other people’s Portillo’s!
Not that you’ll hear me complain. I haven’t had a decent Italian beef in months.
"I'll bring the awesome." -The 'Swish'
I shall miss Al's Beef when I'm gone
I don’t go there very often, but when I do it’s quite a treat.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
I prefer Mr. Beef.
It’s around the block from Al’s, which I think is a bit over rated. My favorite hot dogs are at Gene and Jude’s out in Rosemont.
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=2284
fratdaddy.blogspot.com
I agree
I live two blocks from Mr. Beef and they know me by name. Not good when a Beef joint calls you your name like Norm from Cheers. (Not good for your diet either)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 16, 2008 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
No, no, no
You’re thinking about the Al’s Beef on Ontario in touristaland. The franchises are lame, the only place to go is the original Al’s Beef #1 on Taylor Street
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
Impressive
With the photo at your disposal and everything!
But, Al’s doesn’t have an “elegant dining room” like Mr. Beef.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 16, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Mr. Beef has anything resembling a dining room??
Pitching and defense.
Sure it does.
Picnic tables and everything.
by ReservoirDog on Apr 16, 2008 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Who needs a dining room?
If countertops and picnic benches are good enough for Al, then by golly they’re good enough for me.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
Mr. Beef
has a famous sign that says “Home of the Elegant Dining Room”...you gotta look real hard when you walk in to find it….I mean real hard. Because it isn’t there.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Apr 16, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I live right by there
Been going there since i was a kid. Best beef around hand’s down.
I'm not far from there either
Couple other good spots nearby are Manny’s for the corned beef sammich and latkes, Don Pedro’s for the carnitas, and Nuevo Leon for the incredible huevos rancheros with fresh flour tortillas for the ridiculous price of $3.50 or something like that. Then you’ve got Chinatown right down the street…a person can eat very well in Chicago.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on Apr 16, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
until they die at 50 from a heart attack.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
You definitely can't eat that shit every day
I mean, you can try, but…aaaaaaaaaaaaak!
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on Apr 16, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
you shouldn't
but judging by a lot of the um, physiques, of chicagoans i think a lot of them “can” and “do.”
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
As Carl Wollarski would say to the waitress..."I had the polish sossage"
I forget what Bill Swerski and Todd O’Connor ordered. Ribs and pork chops I think.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on Apr 16, 2008 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone every eat
at Johnny’s beef? Its around melrose/elmwood park I think… I have never had but I hear it is the best around.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
An institution.
Great beefs, fries suck.
Continue west on North Ave to Thatcher for Russells, great BBQ pork sandwich, fries also suck (see comment on fresh potatoes).
Pitching and defense.
I LOVE RUSSELLS!!!!
I love that pulled pork! Fries do suck but dressed in enough of their bbq sauce and they taste ok. Ballyb I like your style brother.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Sliced pork, not pulled.
BBQ sauce IS VG.
Pitching and defense.
* correction
Thinly sliced pork
by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 16, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct my friend
Bill Swerski: Da question is: Now, did God create Da Bears, and make them superior to all teams? Or is he simply a huge fan, and Ditka made them superior to all other teams?
Carl Wollarski: That’s a tough one.
[ Waitress interrupts ]
Waitress: Alright, guys, here’s your food. Who had da bratwurst?
Pat Arnold: I had da bratwurst.
Waitress: Alright. Bratwurst. [ places down tray ]
Carl Wollarski: I had da Polish sausage!
Todd O’Conner: I ordered a knockwurst and pork chops!
Bill Swerski: Yeah.. please, next time, bring da food during da commercials, darling, alright?
Waitress: Just doing my job.
Bill Swerski: Yeah, alright.
[ Waitress exits ]
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
Al's kicks ass
Beef with a nice “peppery” flavor and homemade fries…fantastic!
I suggest going across the street after to Mario’s for a lemon ice…they have somewhere around 1,000 flavors (I prefer watermelon).
"We're gonna bring it all day, everyday...we're gonna keep grinding it out." - Nick Swisher (4/1/08)
Soriano...
Anyone else laughing their ass off that he actually injured himself because of that stupid little hop he takes before he catches every flyball? What a moron. Great contract, Cubs. He is like Sosa Part II, only much worse.
SSH, don't you have a kid on the way? Biliousness
is not good karma. Celebrate our (early and unexpected) success, and watch that kid pop out healthy. Positive waves, man.
I took the "under".
Haha...
I too get the feeling that SSH is often a negative nancy. Does he really have a sarcastic, dry sense of humor in real life?
"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."
by Shoeless In SC on Apr 16, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't wait 'till he has multiples
and starts making out lineups for them.
Skanberg, if I wanted to hear your opinion, I would have brainwashed you by now-
Don Guillote
Speaking of hot dogs, beefs, etc.
French fries made from fresh potatoes. Why aren’t there more?
Gene & Jude’s is a mediocre hot dog EXCEPT they serve off the chart fries – and you can’t get near the place. The process is more difficult, but the return is far greater, IMO.
Pitching and defense.
Sheeeeeeeeeeit
You want real fries get thee to Hopleaf Bar in Andersonville. A dozen Belgian beers on tap, another dozen rotating microbrews, countless beers by the bottle – and excellent food on top of it. Start with the beer-steamed mussels and then finish with the steak frites, wash it all down with a fresh Kwak and you will have feasted like a king.
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on Apr 16, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Excellent!
Many of my college friends moved to Chicago after school and whenever I visit we try to hit up both the hopleaf and the even better “Map Room”. The Map Room might be my favorite bar in the whole world.
I used to live at the Map Room, but the Hopleaf has great food - big plus
''It's a grinder-type attitude, energetic attitude, confident-type attitude, and if it grinds on some people, then I need to know who those people are so we can move them on''
by ChicagoPete on Apr 16, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
map room = hangover
i get there, drink like a dozen different beers, take my drunk ass to allende, and then pass out. good times.
Five Guys is my fries place on the East Coast
Great burgers, too. They do sell hot dogs, but they’re not Chicago style, nor an attempt at it.
Since there's nothing else going on...
The Knights are currently playing Scranton-WB (Yankees affiliate). 1-0 Scranton-WB.
Lance Broadway has given up one unearned run through four innings. Jerry Owens has one of the Knights’ two singles. Josh Fields 0-for-2 with a K.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions
Jerry Owens RBI single...
plates Chris Getz.
1-1 game, bottom 5.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope...
grounder through the middle. Getz scored from second.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Did it stop before it got to the CF?
Pitching and defense.
Most likely.
Juan Miranda homers off of Lance Broadway. Bottom 6, Scranton-WB 2, Charlotte 1.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Josh Fields draws a walk...
steals second, comes around to score on an error.
Broadway pitches a 1-2-3 inning in the seventh, stretch time, 2-2 game.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way...
our old friend Heath Phillips pitching for the Yankees.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
pilfering larry's sig,
somewhere in chicago phil rogers silently weeps.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He did a good job...
inherited a jam in the 6th, pitched out of it, then shut down the Knights in the seventh.
But that’s what AAAA pitchers are good for.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops...
a Broadway throwing error on a sac bunt leads to 2 Yankee runs. Yankees 4, Knights 2 after 7 1/2.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Decent day all told...
for Broadway.
8 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 HR.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerry Owens walks...
to load the bases.
Knights trail 4-2, 2 outs, bottom 9.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
And...
DaVanon strikes out to end the game.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
christ carter = jim thome
99. Chris Carter, 1B, Athletics
Carter was an in-demand commodity in the offseason after a breakout full-season debut with the White Sox that saw him hit .291/.383/.522 for Low-A Kannapolis while finishing third in the Sally League in both home runs (25) and RBI (93). He was briefly the property of the Diamondbacks after the Carlos Quentin trade, but was then quickly flipped to the A’s as part of the package that netted the Snakes Dan Haren. After wowing team officials this spring, Carter is off to a brutal beginning at High-A Stockton, batting just .122/.217/.220 (5-for-41) without a single home run. As a one-dimensional slugger, Carter needs his bat to carry him to the big leagues, and so far it’s not holding up its end of the bargain.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7374
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
you sure? i assumed christ anybody would be > jim thome.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
by ReservoirDog on Apr 16, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
worst free agent deals ever - heyman
am i the only one who thinks ranking giambi as #5 is a tad odd? he hasn’t been the greatest value for money but it’s not like the guy has utterly not performed. like, say, the guy who he ranked at #10.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/04/16/heyman.contracts/index.html
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
what's even odder is what he says about mariotti on page 2 of the story.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
What...
that he wrote an “excellent column”?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
and that he's a "fine" columnist in general.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Lawyers stick together,
so do journalists.
Pitching and defense.
don't tell that to morrissey. not the smiths guy.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd go for Christian Guzman
if only because I spent the ‘04-’05 offseason having to cite why signing that piece of shit would be a bad idea.
/wanted Polanco
AIM: SouthSideCheat
Really?
Who wanted Guzman?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The Chicago media
the lemmings who listen to them, and the idiot grass is greener crew who would cite minny’s 3 consecutive AL Central titles as reason to sign him.
AIM: SouthSideCheat
I also think the
Kevin Brown listing is terrible. Sure he was occasionally hurt and had an off year or two, but he also had several nasty seasons too.
He had the misfortune...
of falling apart once he got to the Bronx. Yankee fans are unforgiving.
He also missed more than a little time to injury. Kevin Brown is an object lesson in not giving 7-year contracts to 34-year-old pitchers.
But yeah, he was better than people remember, too.
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 16, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Mets fans have apparently gotten the memo.
Santana already has been booed leaving a game.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree.
he had at least three really good full seasons after the contract and one good not quite full season. worth that much money? probably not…but it was the dodgers and then yankees, which is a giant leap from the rockies spending tons o’ dough on hampton/neagle.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
don't really have a problem with listing brown somewhere (maybe a bit too high)
those teams were paying like $4 million per marginal win. which was obviously an even more ridiculous sum over 99-05 than it is today.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
where is '07 clemens, then?
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
rule #1 of free agent signings
and even heyman probably knows this: there is never a bad one year deal. the perception surrounding a lot of the deals cited is the atrocious seasons, usually at the tail end of the contract those sometimes mixed in, that make it seem like a x year deal would have been better than y year deal.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
i just can't believe that
the dodgers and yankees (especially the dodgers), with money to burn, were so worse off for having kevin brown for at least four of those seasons at that rate, as to make it one of the worst ten signings ever relative to all of the other signings that big, medium, and small market teams make.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
we like to throw around the "money to burn" concept
and that’s true to a degree. but it’s still dumb for me to spend $300 on an average meal, even if i can afford it more than mr. toondergovernmentsalarystrook. there’s a reason the teams you cite are moving away from that model.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
no argument there.
but brown wasn’t “average” for most of that contract. also, the dodgers must have just started moving away from it (exhibit a: juan pierre, exhibit b: not as big a deal because its two years, but andruw jones).
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
gotta develop the minor leaguers first
before you can put a plan in action at the major league level. i can’t say i really have a problem with the jones signing. i wouldn’t have done it – i certainly was not SSH pining for the signing because he looked kinda like a pumpkin to me – but it’s an easily defensible signing.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
weren't ethier and kemp in the minors and projected when pierre was signed?
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
projected for kemp
not arrived like ethier. i think you were around for my discussion with robert about whether one should call someone who is in the minors or has played the same number of games as chris snopek and produced just as well should be called a “success.” the dodgers wanted to win last year, too, apparently. still in the bonfire of cash mode.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
robert s. side? yes, i think i recall that.
i don’t think the fact that ethier and kemp weren’t ready that day justifies the pierre deal. and if it’s somehow excused because they wanted to win last year, well, i guess we’re at square one.
on another matter, looking at some other atrocious contracts along the way, i found a resigning of one jason kendall signing in 2001 for 6 years, $60 million by the pirates. YIKES.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't know if heyman was considering
resignings regardless. i still think jaime navarro’s white sox contract was worse than the kevin brown deal.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
jamie smiled
not an asshole like brown. not list worthy.
somewhere in arizona, jerry owens silently weeps.
the 'roids prevented brown from ever smiling.
Blood has been shed, Jerry.
by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Portillo's
I go for the Big Beef (no jokes, please) with sweet and hot peppers, fries and chocolate cake for dessert. If you dine in, you can get a “schooner” of beer (no wimpy mugs at Potillo’s).
On the pizza front, out in God’s country (Batavia, IL) we have Nancy’s (great deep dish) and Rosati’s. Sure, we have Domino’s, Papa John’s and Pizza Hut, but I never go near that trash. And they are building a Giordano’s in North Aurora – 5 minutes from my house! Sweet!
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