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Greg Walker: Brains are the new weather

Early deadlines for Zellco tonight. This article was posted before the new episode Real Houswives hit air. Seems like we've got ourselves a new built-in excuse when the bats go silent, though it probably won't be used for Juan Uribe; brains get in the way. Just ask Greg Walker, on Carlos Quentin:

"He has big-time power," hitting coach Greg Walker said. "Physically, this guy is talented. This is a guy who will have to keep his brain from getting in the way, but he showed [his ability] at the end of spring.

"At the end of spring he became low maintenance for me. … Even though at times he thinks too much, you can tell he's talented and he battles."

He went to Stanford!

The article had the encouraging headline of "Sox's Quentin will get his chances" though it was lacking in hard details about how Quentin would find his way onto the field.

[Update by The Cheat, 04/02/08 12:10 AM CDT]: Joe Cowley has some more substantive Walker quotes. Nothing on Quentin but on the larger issue of this site being labeled Fire Greg Walker for the last 5 months of the '07 season.

"I'm going to attempt to make that a non-story. It did become [a distraction] last year. I was always taught that you never want to run from a question, but it kept getting asked so much.

"I really do hope it's not an issue,'' Walker said. ''Not for me, but for the players that then have to answer it. I'm close to a lot of those guys, all of them. I love them. I don't want them worrying about me. I want them worrying about playing baseball. I just want it to be a non-story, and the best way to do that is to win games.

"And you know what? One year later, I'm still a non-story. I'm just a small piece of the puzzle. We're here to help the guys. We do great, I'm a non-story; we do terrible, I'm a non-story. That's the way I'm looking at it, and that's how it's going to be dealt with this year."

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This is only half jokingly posted

With Pedro going down for an unknown quantity of time, any chance we can ship them a 'proven' arm such as Masset?

After all you can't spell Masset without spelling asset!

I'll bring the awesome.

by Hazymania on Apr 1, 2008 11:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't

the first game show that we may need him all season? esp if one of our starters goes down? When your playing poker do you show your oponents your pocket pair before you bet?

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 2, 2008 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a matter of fact I do.

In fact, I play with all of my cards face up. I figure it evens the odds for the other guy.

I'll bring the awesome.

by Hazymania on Apr 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think they'll stick with el duque for now

making a kneejerk move at this point strikes me as pretty silly when you have in-house options. obviously they shouldn't count on hernandez for the whole season if pedro is done for a while/whole season. but this early in the season you can certainly afford to wait, especially considering the amount of off days.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point about acting too soon.

Isn't the Duke on the DL right now too? Without any quick research, is it just a 15-day stay?

I'll bring the awesome.

by Hazymania on Apr 2, 2008 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's debatable what they'll do

el duque was supposed to take a more leisurely pace back, largely because they have pelfrey. now they need a starter, though, so it's likely they will just shorten his extended ST to have him back. judging by the days off, they don't need him until next weekend-ish, which coincides with the end of the 15 days.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

another player

it looks like KW dropped right before he turned into a pumpkin. the man has luck or skill, maybe both. whatever it is, it's good.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't a lot of people...

compare McCarthy to Jack McDowell? I didn't take that as a complement to McCarthy.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

mcdowell certainly had less injury problems at the same age

i'd probably say a comparison to mcdowell is a compliment, though i'm not exactly sure why i would have compared mcdowell to mccarthy. white irish guys who throw right-handed?

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both skinnier...

than the average pitcher, with somewhat violent motions. With both pitchers, I was always worried that they'd get hurt. McDowell lasted a lot longer than I thought he would.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

re

metsblog suggests Claudio Vargas or Woody Williams

haven't followed them at all, are they better options?

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2008 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

claudio is about the definition of replacement level and woody is a dead woodpecker.

so, yeah, better than masset.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I posted it in my ST thread at ST..

When I talked to Walker in Tucson, before the games even began, he was saying he thinks Carlos is too smart for his own good at times. I don't really know what that means, but looks like he is still playing that card...

by Tony82087 on Apr 1, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply actions  

There is something to it

It's called being a headcase... Carlos need look no further than Paul Konerko for someone to teach him how to overcome in that area.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think that's bullshit

baseball seems to have a problem with smart players, especially when they aren't pitchers.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

As a guy who has an anonymous position

in and around baseball, I can positively attest that baseball guys definitely carry a chip of anti-smarts on their shoulders. 100% accurate in your assesment, Larry.

by HulkSmash on Apr 2, 2008 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

heck

i probably shouldn't be just including baseball in that, though it may be more pronounced in a "jock" environment where you have lots and lots of guys who only have a high school education (if that).

maybe some guys overthink. probably a heck of a lot more underthink, however, and i rarely hear complaints about those guys. i'd certainly prefer to have a guy thinking about his craft as opposed to not.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's been that way forever.

Christy Mathewson was disliked in part because he went to college (and in part because he was a straight arrow).

It's only now that the environment in baseball is changing, and the "Old Guard" is really, really unhappy about that.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt

things are and have been improving. this too will mostly pass.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another Christy sighting!

His PR agent is doing a great job.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there is a difference between being smart vs. thinking too much

To me, it seemed that Greg Walker meant that Quentin has a tendency to think too much or in other words, put too much pressure on himself. If you can't play relaxed, then you might have a tendency to make more mistakes.

"You might be impressed with your analysis, but I am not. Stop wasting my time." - Chris De Luca

by BoKnows on Apr 2, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

being internal and inward looking can definitely cause problems

because it can degenerate into constant self criticism. personally, it was and is a big problem, hitting and otherwise. confidence is an important trait; it allows you to shed those nagging doubts and simply perform.

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 2, 2008 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

by the way

"he was saying he thinks Carlos is too smart for his own good at times. I don't really know what that means, but looks like he is still playing that card..." means "carlos graduated from stanford in 3.5 years and i'm a country boy from georgia who barely graduated high school." it doesn't take a high school diploma to read between the lines of that one.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about that...

after reading "Moneyball", I remember the comparison between Lenny Dykstra and Billy Beane. Beane spent a lot of time thinking about what he was doing, and got himself all worked up into a lather. Dykstra wasn't dumb, but he had supreme self-confidence. He didn't think about hitting - he just hit. Dykstra had by far the more successful career as a player.

Maybe I'm being too charitable to Walker, but that's what I thought of when I read that quote.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not saying there isn't something to the "overthinking" thing

but i also know nearly everytime a player who is known for taking a more technical approach to hitting gets into a slump and stays there, it's because he's overthinking. and when a player who is known more for a feel approach (for lack of a better term), it's because they're not "feeling it" right now and it will "work itself out."

there's no one way to approach hitting (or, for that matter, pitching, or fielding, or baserunning, or whatever). but i also know which school of thought walker is from. whether there's any underlying "malice" to what he's saying or if (more likely) he's just falling into the usual pattern i'll leave to others. one problem i have had with what seems to be walker's approach is that he is married to the "things are fine, these guys are good, it'll work itself out" approach. perhaps he's reevaluated that over the offseason. but it seemed pretty clear in 2006-2007.

i can guarantee you that quentin gets shit, probably more of the good-intentioned variety, for his smarts and academic record. but one needs to be careful about these things. telling a player that he's too smart can sometimes cause more problems than him thinking about his craft a lot.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember reading in Ball Four

about Jay Hook, an engineering/physics major, I think, who was aleways admonished for thinking too much while pitching. "Stop thinking, you're hurting the club!" was the quote, IIRC.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll be honest

that green background made me want to read the post less, not more.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Cheat dialed down the threshold

for testing purposes and forgot to reset it.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is a good post though

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 2, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

sounds to me like walker is letting his brain get in the way

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

so i'm kind of lost as to what to do

wrt the second base thing. i went to BP and pulled down everyone who got an AB, divided them up into games played by position on excel, but i really don't know what to do from there. stddev of games played and cut out anyone who doesn't mean the lower threshold? take those populations and check the avg. EqA and stdev of EqA?

dude, that was totally not swish you saw on rush street last night. swish was at home playing xbox.

by colintj on Apr 2, 2008 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure

that's a place to start. you don't need to necessarily hit the right answer or the right method in your first try. throw some shit up on the wall. see if it sticks. tell us about it. i will rip it to shreds. then you'll go back and throw some more shit up on the wall. rinse and repeat.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He went to Stanford!

pfft, like that means anything...
</maroon>

by thatshortkid on Apr 2, 2008 6:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Sure it means something...

he didn't get into UC Berkeley! ;-)

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 2, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frustrating...

The first night game of the year, and it's on WCIU, which means it's not on Extra Innings.

All the day games and WCIU games mean I won't be able to see a game until Sunday, when it's on ESPN, and then not again until next Thursday.

I know you're all playing the world's smallest violin just for me...

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not on EI?

I saw it on the schedule this morning, when setting my DVR before leaving for work.

by Sox Machine on Apr 2, 2008 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

Now it's showing up on the schedule (the Indians feed, that is). It wasn't there last night.

One of the cool things about EI this year is that, if available, they're letting you choose which feed you want to watch.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feared the same, Jer.....

but, according to trusty Directv channel 105, the game IS ON......probably through the Cleveland feed. I am not at home so I can't tell you which channel.....but, look again, Jer. It won't be in high def, as most are now, but, oh well. At least it APPEARS to be on the extra innings package, somewhat to my surprise.

by dantesox on Apr 2, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

To give the man some props

Walker deserved the mass abuse he got last year, but I've got to give him some applause for how the Sox hit in Game 1. When PK gets a solid line shot double down into the RF corner, that means someone's been beating home that they've got to go the other way this year. Quite a few other hits were solid oppo's also, I think JD had a solid hit to RF too.

My biggest complaint with Walker last year is that he couldn't, or wouldn't, get these guys to stop pulling everything.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 2, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

So... will you be medicated for tonight's game?

Or watch in a padded room? I just hope you don't see a promo for next week's "OC".
;-)

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2008 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

you'll have to confirm with soulja boy/where triples go to die,

but i think that show has been off the air for years at this point.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like much of your pop culture,

I'm aware of things but haven't actually seen or heard any of it.
Though I DID know your Wu Tang Clan reference yesterday! They were on a Wyclef Jean cd that I actually own! (Yeah, I know: Wyclef is passe.)

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2008 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

wyclef circa carnival and fugees will never be passe.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

and please...do not put the O.C. in the category of "my" pop culture.

i'm constantly stuck wishing i had born in the mid-fifties and not the late seventies.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Your" was collective, not you specifically...

As for the fifties, I don't (always) remember.

Next time, Bhoov, do some research.

by Chiburb on Apr 2, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Born in the mid-fifties

Yeah, you really missed it - the music of the 70's was insane. Peter Frampton, Disco, Foghat, Kiss. And then in the 80's you missed out on the whole Hair Band and synthesizer/Human League thing.

Actually I find it interesting that the 80's are back in vogue musically. Seems like every time I walk into the store or restaurant or bar I hear the Killers covering Shadowplay playing in the background - I like the fact that Joy Division and New Order are still influencing bands. The Cure and Depeche Mode were much more popular at the time, but they've fallen into the dustbin of history. The cream always rises to the top.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 2, 2008 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being born in the mid-fifties

would have had me starting high school in the midst of Dead, Airplane, Stones, Zeppelin, Hendrix, Floyd territory. And I would have been there.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but you had to take the bitter with the sweet

For every King Crimson you had to suffer through 10 Uriah Heeps.

If you're a fan of that era you HAVE to see the Genesis tribute band The Musical Box. Like stepping into the time machine, they are note for note perfect reproduction, huge stacks of Marshall amps, they've got the whole thing going on.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 2, 2008 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds just like Dark Star Orchestra, who does the same thing

and recreates entire Dead shows, song for song. Seeing them 3 nights in April. I will check out The Musical Box.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a Pink Floyd tribute band from Australia

I've heard they're really good too. I just saw the Musical Box in Chicago for the first time last winter, I was kind of skeptical cause I'm not a big one for nostalgia but I was blown away - they did a great job. Was a much better show than going to see the real band do some lame reunion tour to cash the green.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 2, 2008 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, wanna-be

I was there. Sex Pistols, Cars, Dire Straits (man, THAT was news), good Zep/Floyd/Moody Blues/Stones, Alice Cooper, Elton John when he mattered. Focus on the crap if you will, but at least in the early '70's we had it.

And Toonder, embrace your won generation. You have some good, non-derivative music. Be happy for where you are, bro.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm through with the music of my g-g-g-g-g-generation.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You had to be there

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, Killer, and Every Good Boy Deserves Favour were groundbreaking stuff. Really.
(Inhales deeply.)

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, dude

Your giving the elder statesmen around here a very bad name. Say you were into Hawkwind or something like that.

by ChicagoPete on Apr 2, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walker or Cox

Perhaps, Cox had more to do with the "guarding the plate" philosophy than Walker? In some of the spring training columns it was suggested Cox was trying to teach the players how to hit to the opposite field when down in the count, something many of us have been promoting . Along with bunting and running the bases, somethings I would have thought any ex-major leaguer could teach but apparently not. There were a lot of good things shown in the first game, however.

by floridajim on Apr 2, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

rocco baldelli

since many of been following this saga, i pass along that the rays did not pick up his option.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Too bad.

A lot of obvious potential there, it looks like it will never be realised.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

$6MM, wasn't it?

I'd pass even if he didn't have the mitochondrial problem. He's been hurt too much at such a young age (26).

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's really $2M

considering the buyout. if he didn't have the problem, they would have picked it up.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i should say

duh, it's really $4 million because then they'd have to choose whether to pick up the 10 and 11 option, which carries a buyout, too. so the choice is really just the $4M sunk cost or adding on the extra $2M for 09 and the $2M buyout for 10/11. at any rate, they still would have picked it up.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it was $2MM I agree

it'd be worth a flier (flyer?).

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

and if it was $6M, i'd be much more inclined to agree

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

ehhh?

I'm confused, what do you mean?

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

we're talking about his contract

and, like WU posited, whether one would pick it up if he was merely injury prone for unknown reasons and not suffering a chronic degenerative disease.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are late to the party, wiz

We're talking theoretical non-career-threatening illness.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baldelli availble

Baldelli will be another grinder so we may expect him in two years.

by floridajim on Apr 2, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

no, you really can't

which is unfortunate for rocco.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fatigue - Baldelli

Did they ever figure out what is wrong with him? I say we put Herm Schneider on the case and bring him in to be our 7th outfielder.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 2, 2008 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got some sort of...

metabolic or mitochondrial problem. I don't think they know exactly what his problem is yet.

by The Jerry Royster Experience on Apr 2, 2008 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

he needs a hell of a lot more than herm

he needs the mayo clinic and a miracle.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baldelli

So I assume this means they know what is causing him to be constantly fatigued then? Could you point me in the right direction or elaborate?
I mean.. I realize he's constantly injury prone, that's a given with Baldelli, but last I read his newest problem was that he was constantly tired / fatigued and they didn't know what was causing it, I'll admit I haven't paid too much attention to Rocco Baldelli though.

by Grinder in Training on Apr 2, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's a mitochondrial problem

what's caused it isn't particularly relevant, at least for athletic purposes. it's unlikely he'll be able to play baseball with such a problem because it's something that (as of now) can't be cured only managed and it gets harder and harder to manage as the condition continues to deteriorate. based upon what i know now, it probably can't be managed to the level necessary for him to play a sport at a high level. there's also probably a good argument that, if he wants to live as long as possible at a quality level, he shouldn't play baseball. if the guy were hurting for money perhaps he'd disregard that advice. but he's made a pretty penny in his career and is now getting a $4M buyout.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

rhythm

are you watching the final four games saturday at a fine east bay beer-serving establishment? if so, i could probably get you the sox-giants tickets then.

or if not, any suggestions on where to watch?

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Hadn't thought about it...

but it's a good idea, so I'll have to get back to you on both an "if" and a "where".

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

by rhythm on Apr 2, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems crede isn't dodger bound

[MLBTR]:

Paul Hagen of the Philadelphia Daily News says it's likely that Wes Helms will be moved by Saturday, when closer Brad Lidge is set to come off the DL. Hagen suggests the Dodgers as a good fit. Ned Colletti could offer up a player to be named later, or just wait and see if the Phils release Helms. He has $2.9MM left on his contract.

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2008 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

profundo update

[SG]:

Juan Uribe is the White Sox' No. 1 second baseman, but manager Ozzie Guillen said he won't hesitate to call on Pablo Ozuna or Alexei Ramirez if Uribe struggles at the plate again.

"Something we have that we haven't had in the past, we have people that can replace people,'' Guillen said. "If you don't play the game the way we think you should be playing it, we will do something about it. It's all about performance. When you don't play well, we have a lot of people out there that can fill your role.''

Uribe struck out three straight times on Monday before doubling in the eighth inning. The Sox staged a rally in the ninth inning and Carlos Quentin was going to pinch hit for Uribe before Joe Crede popped out to end the game.

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay so we are ready to make the change in second with Uribe

But god forbid if we actually play Ozuna over Uribe with one of the few pitchers Ozuna owns.

by southsideirish71 on Apr 2, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmm

i think that decision is a closer question than some make it out to be, though i'd probably have to think about it some. we don't have a true groundball pitcher but, of all our pitchers, MB probably induces the most, or close to it with contreras. ozuna, frankly, sucks on defense. maybe i'd want to see a hit chart, too, to see how active a 2B usually is when MB is throwing. at any rate, this may be colored by my belief that pixie dust has run out for him.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, one has to weigh which is more important...

Pablo possibly getting a couple hits off a lefty and how many balls are hit his way on defense or Taz corkscrewing himself into 3 K's but playing good defense at 2B.

by SSH2005 on Apr 2, 2008 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

pete, is that you?

[SN]:

WORST OFFSEASON MOVE

Trading Garland to the Angels for Orlando Cabrera. Garland would sure look nice in the No. 3 spot in the rotation. Not to mention he’s only 27 years old and could be entering his prime.

by The Wizard on Apr 2, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

taking someone seriously

when they can't even be bothered to look up someone's age, is difficult.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

When you don't care about anything, stress doesn't take a toll.

by Sox Machine on Apr 2, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ignorance is HGH?

The fountain of youth.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's amazing how Californians...

can grow most of the country's food, stay at the forefront of technological innovation, and contribute to what would be the world's 10th biggest economy if Califonia were a country, don't care about anything.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hook, line, and sinker, have you swallowed

your new home's air, Toonder.

Che, Che, Che Guevara!

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i used to have the californians don't care about anything.

i've since realized that although there are many great things about living here, lack of stress isn't one of them. on the other hand, however, having year-round moderate weather and a million things to do outside to alleviate the stress more than makes up for that.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Skilling said it's been something like 161 days since we last saw 70 degrees here...

only 20 more days (or something like that) to set a record

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should add that he said

There's no 70 degree days currently on his 16 day forecast model.

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since my work counterpark is in Burbank, and our home office

is in San Diego, I hear plenty about taxes, traffic, fires, mudslides, tanking real estate, and pollution. But the weather is great.

I took the "under".

by winningugly on Apr 2, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

how about 9 year olds plotting to kill their teacher? ;-)

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

also, when i refer to california, i mean from monterey up.

i'm pretty sure everything south of monterey is really mexico.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

someone should tell that to his peripherals

because his arm sure looks like its aging.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude, it's fried.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

off-topic

looks like that hart guy on the cubs is from the jose contreras/freddy garcia school of how to pitch with runners on.

Well, Kenny, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfuck yet.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 2, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks like Ted Lilly's soul

Was only worth one year of being good. Back to normal.

by southsideirish71 on Apr 2, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Royals are 2 games over .500

for the first time since April 11th 2004

AIM: SouthSideCheat

by The Cheat on Apr 2, 2008 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah, who was it again that picked them to win 80 games? that's right. book it, danno

78 to go.

the law of conservation of masset: no matter how much masset you use up, there is always masset in your system.

by larry on Apr 2, 2008 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Missed my chance

You know, I started filling out the AL Central prediction form and I was going to go with KC third...I won't mention any of my other picks except to say that the numbers I worked out did not look good for the Sox. So much so that I decided no to submit the thing cause I thought it was just too pessimistic.

Anyway, I agree KC will be a decent team this year. At least in my imaginary AL Central.

by hitlesswonder on Apr 2, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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